Per Wattsup's instruction: After 2.5 hours total we get a few references to domain flipping and where to buy parts. (09:25:28) MileHigh: You want to set the record straight Giantkiler? (09:27:50) MileHigh: My impression was that you 'ran away' from our converstaion so that's why I posted to get the message across since you ran away. (09:29:30) MileHigh: it's ridiculous to take my posting as a personal attack or slander. The the fact is that resonance does not mean you amplify your power to destroy things with less energy. That's false (09:30:42) giantkiller: SM stated 'Not bang on'. Can you expound on that? (09:31:34) giantkiller: Can you explain to how magnetic resonance can be used as a tool to harness. (09:32:01) giantkiller: Can you explain the transformer vibration in the TPUs? (09:32:13) MileHigh: And I will repeat myself to EM: Your postings about being more knowledgible than me about electronics are false and I challenge people to have the gusts to back me up with respect to that point (09:32:42) giantkiller: Will please explain the low speed of the vibration when he is running at 5khz? (09:33:28) MileHigh: I can't explain that without seeing all the material. I can explain generic transformer vibration. (09:33:45) giantkiller: You see folks I asked simpled questions and when I pose as a unconquerable victim MH finds another. Viole! (09:33:59) MileHigh: I haven't looked at the SM vids in years. (09:35:14) giantkiller: Muller said 'Every magnet is a motor'. Expound on that please. (09:35:23) MileHigh: Please clarify your last statement about the 'victim.' (09:35:53) giantkiller: What does EM have to do with the questions I asked you? (09:36:28) MileHigh: How about you expound first because that's a nonsensical statement as far as I am concerned. (09:37:00) giantkiller: I am typing with LISA! God, I have duped! (09:37:01) MileHigh: EM bragged that he knows more about electronics than me, a separate issue. (09:38:32) MileHigh: You tell me how every magnets is a mortor, what are your insights? Thee is no relation GK, it's a Muller sales pitch pharase. (09:38:45) giantkiller: Well prove to us in a postive way that you wish to corroborate (09:39:53) MileHigh: You ask me to expound on what I view as a nonsensical statement, you go first please, how is a magnet a motor (09:40:20) giantkiller: Then tell us how a magnet sticks forever to a metal sheet. Not what is the bonding mechanism but why or how is the length of atachment controlled (09:41:24) giantkiller: Stop the banter and give a physics response (09:41:26) MileHigh: Good question GK, and you and everone that plays with magnets should be able to answer that, don't you think that reasonable? (09:42:04) giantkiller: I see. I was hoping for your take. I asked first. (09:42:51) MileHigh: Okay so you are demanding an answer from me, but the answer is 'classical' and you shoudl not take SM or Muller's explanation before you understand the classical explanation. (09:43:17) giantkiller: I asked first. You switched the focus. Now I am demanding? (09:43:58) giantkiller: What happened to you in your past that would deem this deflection of inclusion? (09:44:14) MileHigh: There is an answer that you can look up and read up on and then understand. Are you interested in doing that or do you just gravatate towards 'alternative' explanations? (09:45:19) giantkiller: Shouts are lost (09:45:46) MileHigh: 'deflection of inclusion' are you giving me some sort of a Litmus test where I have to be 'positive' to get back on? Like you only want to hear what you want to hear? (09:46:09) MileHigh: you have to copy each one beore you hit the button (09:46:10) giantkiller: Classical textbook responses. RTFM? Again I asked you. (09:47:23) MileHigh: You want my answer for what makes magnetic attraction right now? For what purpose? I am not badgering you, seriously, for what purpose? (09:47:50) giantkiller: Like you, I am looking for a chink in the armor. A necessary weakness with I can inflict seperation. (09:49:26) giantkiller: You see the chat has not gone into what I asked. I am curious about magnets and there anomilous attraction. A perfection in the universe that we did not create but exists to be harnessed (09:49:29) MileHigh: Anyway I can't crank out the formulas on the spot, but it has to do with the magnetic lines of force seeking out and being attracted to high permiability material. (09:51:06) MileHigh: If everyone understood electronics and electromagnetso on a grade 12 high school physics course level then things would be different around here (09:52:44) giantkiller: So everyone is deficit? Don't tell us our ignorances. Tell us what yo want to perform. (09:53:06) MileHigh: The attraction, not sure why you use the term 'anomalous' when it's all natural. If there was only something to harness there but magnets are as dead as a door nail. I don't think you will believe me though (09:54:35) giantkiller: Why would you think you would not be believed? Have you given answer for thouight? (09:54:56) MileHigh: perform? I know it's politically incorrect to say to people that if you work on a bench and play with coils and magnets you shoudl be at a grade 12 physics level. It's upsets the new wave new energy hippy vibe. (09:56:02) giantkiller: I see. Another attack. Can you stay on track? (09:56:58) giantkiller: 30 minutes have gone by. Have all viewers seen enough? (09:57:14) MileHigh: I don't think you will believe me because you attribute some sort of 'mystical' qualities to coils and magnets. So you stick firm to your skewed frame of reference. That's fine but can you produce experiments to back up your beliefs. Then it gets hard. (09:57:55) giantkiller: I see. Another attack. Can you stay with the subject at hand? (09:58:27) giantkiller: What compells you to believe you would be believed? (09:58:40) wattsup: The question for @MH should be - explain to me why you want to be on this forum instead of gong to a forum like impossibleOU.com where you would obvioiusly be more at home, confortable and well received? (09:58:40) giantkiller: not be believed (09:58:59) MileHigh: Another attack? Get real, you have an 'alternative' viewpoint and I was just calling it 'new wave new energy hippy.' It's like seeing 'classical' used in a perjorative sense. That's not going to kill you. (09:59:36) giantkiller: My gift is to believe in the good of all. Have I made a grave error here? (09:59:58) giantkiller: What leads you to believe I have a mystical view? (10:00:31) giantkiller: There is something about OU that is a mystery else we would be done. (10:00:43) giantkiller: Can you help the effort? (10:00:47) MileHigh: GK, no matter what, I will not have my views approved or disapproved by you. You are not a fascist leader and I am not your conscript. You need to think long and hard about that. (10:01:11) wattsup: That works both ways (10:02:02) giantkiller: I am in an endevor to ask questions and receive answers. I do not judge you. (10:02:29) MileHigh: Wattsup, looking at OU propositions is fun. You discovered what I predicted was done within the first day that I saw the Romero clips. Do you acknowledge that? (10:03:30) MileHigh: GK, spotting crap and saying it is BS helps the effort. Surely you can see that. (10:04:10) wattsup: The expection is that I proved it. (10:04:17) giantkiller: I simply want to resonate to transformers close to self destruction to harness the sympathetic vibrations. (10:04:22) giantkiller: Two (10:05:01) MileHigh: Wattsup, yes that works both ways. But you have called me "useless" many times haven't you. You can't disallow stuff that you don't want to hear. Then you succumb to becoming a fascist. (10:05:06) giantkiller: THis is not unheard of or impossible. And the device will vibrate. This is a TPU process. (10:06:03) giantkiller: You see how short and to the point the answer was? We could have talked about this 45 miuntes ago. (10:06:24) giantkiller: instead of clipboard and couch time (10:06:43) MileHigh: Wattsup, I kew what I said was true with high confidence I don't need to go looking for wires. Like I said yesterday, there were logical tests to be made that should have been asked of Romero, none we asked and you are left with lemmings (10:06:45) wattsup: I have to go - my wife wants to go shopping. Please someone copy this shoutout and post it on the question POLL thread. (10:07:00) giantkiller: I just spilled the beans. Can you grasp the magnitude? (10:07:26) giantkiller: You above all people should now have the design in your head. (10:07:42) MileHigh: GK, do your measurments properly on your resonating transformers and you will get underunity. (10:08:13) giantkiller: What is your understanding of sympathetic vibrations? (10:08:38) MileHigh: My understanding is fairly high. (10:09:15) giantkiller: It is a simple process. But there has to be a frequency to matter cohesion. (10:09:18) MileHigh: If you have a point about sympathetic vibrations I would like to hear it. (10:10:05) giantkiller: The correct frequencies to the target will achieve vibrations. (10:10:18) MileHigh: What is frequency to matter cohesion? I have never heard that term, and never with respect to sympathetic vibrations (10:10:35) giantkiller: The vibrations can be read to harness. (10:10:53) giantkiller: The matchup of the source to destination. (10:11:03) MileHigh: okay can you expound on that? You are saying that there is a resonant frequency? (10:11:13) giantkiller: yes. (10:11:42) giantkiller: I know that I can apply that and get extra action. (10:12:04) MileHigh: Okay so there is a resonant frequency, what does that do wrt your expewriments? Give you a high AC voltage? (10:12:23) giantkiller: My efforts are a copper configuration with the correct input. (10:12:41) MileHigh: You know tha you can apply that and get extra action - are you implying over unity? (10:13:13) giantkiller: Depends on what the configuration responds with. But basically yes because the device is vibrating. (10:13:46) giantkiller: If its moving it can be caught. (10:14:29) MileHigh: Okay so here is the salient point - you believe that by exciting something at the resonant frequency you will achieve over unity - is that a fair statement? (10:14:39) giantkiller: the correct combination is low power push into unstable excitation (10:14:47) giantkiller: yes (10:15:49) giantkiller: What else is there? what other process do you know of that excites matter into a dynamic state? (10:15:53) MileHigh: Okay - we could have cut to the chase sooner on your side also. lol If you do a clip I am pretty sure your observations will be explainable. (10:17:02) giantkiller: I was never looking for classroom attendance. I was attracted to SVP. That is what my YT show. (10:17:26) MileHigh: But there is a keypoint here GK - you believe that resonance will give you OU - tapping into ZPE or the ether, whatever - that's your 'programming' GK, just like you say 'classicists' are 'programmed.' (10:18:28) MileHigh: My comments on your YT cannel were about yesterday's chat here and not your clip. (10:19:13) giantkiller: I see. Again why the personnel modification effort? Can I just shake the shit out of something and get OU? (10:19:30) MileHigh: Anyway GK, you can prove for yourself that resonance in your experiments does not give you OU - so you don't have to take my word for it. (10:19:38) giantkiller: I have seen this throughout history. Now it is my turn. (10:20:25) giantkiller: So you push yourself away from the table now that ample time has been consumed uselessly? (10:20:54) MileHigh: Assuming you prove that, what's interesting is you will look with a critical eye at SM, magnacoaster, and a myriad of others that drop the term 'resonance' to advance their casue and sometimes line their pockets. (10:21:44) giantkiller: I stayed focused on SVP. And let you ask questions. I received only personnel modification diatribe again. (10:21:58) MileHigh: Helping you understand that resonance has it's limitations and is no OU is time well spent and a benefit to you. (10:22:02) giantkiller: I have not sent money to the jesters. (10:22:57) giantkiller: Resonance has no limitations with our boundaries of existance. (10:23:05) giantkiller: within (10:23:14) MileHigh: Wear a thicker skin GK, I don't have all the answers but some of the answers I have are like cod live oil, tastes bad but good for you (10:24:43) MileHigh: GK, you cearly have a whole belief system wrt resonance, and it's simply wrong, there is nothing there. Your belief system is very wishful and blinds you when you look a FE propositions (10:25:46) giantkiller: And back we come. What do you see as the process or entity we can tap? (10:26:18) MileHigh: That might be hard to digest since every second solid state OU system is based on 'resonance' but what I say is true and you can prove it for yourself if you want to with study and experimentation (10:26:32) giantkiller: What would vibrate a closed loop device? (10:27:30) giantkiller: Why would it be hard to digest? What is lacking in all of us that would not let us comprehend such a grand thing? (10:27:33) MileHigh: I don't know what we can tap beyond the obvious ones GK, but a new source of energy may come around you never know. They can mine the moon to get energy for example. (10:28:11) giantkiller: Tesla spoke of resonance. He showed the world the power of it. (10:28:26) MileHigh: I don't know what would vibrate a closed loop device - is that a reference to an SM video? (10:28:42) MileHigh: GK, you cearly have a whole belief system wrt resonance, and it's simply wrong, there is nothing there. Your belief system is very wishful and blinds you when you look a FE propositions (10:29:18) giantkiller: Shake matter at the correct speed and it stores energy. (10:29:26) MileHigh: GK, lke I said, you have a belief system built up around resonance. Resonance is not a potential source of energy, it's just a way to store energy. (10:30:14) giantkiller: what properties are in FE that would do what we are looking for? (10:30:28) MileHigh: Indeed shake and store and extract - shake again and repreat process - no free energy there. I can't believe how 'hard coded' this is in your thought processes. (10:31:39) MileHigh: GK, you have to have FE first to talk about it's properties. (10:31:47) giantkiller: Ok what do we do to the magnetic domains to make a usefull tool? (10:32:30) giantkiller: From what I have seen and done is to alter the direction in unison quickly. (10:33:09) giantkiller: ibrb (10:33:52) MileHigh: There is a multi-billion dollar industry based on using magnetic domains as a useful tool. So there answer is alredy there in a sense. I am not being facetious, go to Digi-Key.... (10:35:32) MileHigh: "From what I have seen and done is to alter the direction in unison quickly." - indeed but here is where you have to have a mastery of grade 12 physics to 'see' call it 'electronics spice.' Your question is almost moot and self-evident. (10:41:24) MileHigh: So you admit that you got duped EM, at least that's progress. (10:43:25) MileHigh: I reverse-enginered Romero's fake crap in my head, I did not need to see the wires. (10:43:52) giantkiller: Well I guess my turn is done. Next victim please... (10:44:32) MileHigh: You have to stop that GK, I am just being real. (10:45:12) MileHigh: Stop crying like a baby, you are a fully grown man. (10:47:49) MileHigh: Magnetic domains flip and release their stored energy that can be captured with a pick-up coil - BFD - somebody put the energy into the domains firsft - No OU, just COE. Everything to do with magnetic domains and pick-up coils is COE and can be proven on a bench (10:49:21) giantkiller: I understand. (10:49:53) MileHigh: Same thing for resonance, it's all COE and can be verified with measurements. Please try to do research - your see resonance and an 'OU light bulb' goes off in your head. You are astray and will remain astray if you always think like that. More cod liver oil. (10:51:03) MileHigh: You should undestand because in your YT favourites you have tins of clips that give you the real deal, teach you the truth about magnetic interactions. (10:52:02) giantkiller: The MEG does flip domains. (10:53:00) MileHigh: It seems to me that your favourite YT clips are just the 'classicist' viewpoint when you want to 'amuse' yourself perhaps? Just like poor Rosemary would make reference to hard science as 'amusing' because she thought she knew better (10:53:14) giantkiller: by cancelling the flux we flip doamins also. (10:54:32) giantkiller: I didn't know I was doing anything wrong or incorrect. Those posts are just storage for myself. (10:54:59) MileHigh: Yes the MEG flips domains. Every transformer flips domains so the entire society we live in is powewred by flipping domains. (10:56:20) giantkiller: The 60hz grid doesnt flip fast enough to suite Tesla. (10:56:20) MileHigh: Not saying you did anything incorrect that's not my place but you are asking questions that are answered in detail in your own favourite YT clips, that's my point. (10:56:57) giantkiller: It has nothing to do with favorites. (10:57:33) giantkiller: I return to those clips and review all the time. (10:57:39) MileHigh: "The 60hz grid doesnt flip fast enough to suite Tesla." Interesting statement and revealing. Why do aircraft use400 Hz AC instead of 60 Hz AC? (10:58:43) MileHigh: The answer is because you can get more power throughput in the same sized transformer at 400 Hz vs. 60 Hz. (10:59:30) MileHigh: Yes the MEG flips domains. Every transformer flips domains so the entire society we live in is powewred by flipping domains. (10:59:48) MileHigh: So you can reduce weight using400 Hz AC on a plane. But that has no real connection to Tesla's very vague statement. (11:00:04) giantkiller: To eliminate interaction with the 60hz and to raise the kinetic base of power usage. (11:00:54) giantkiller: Well what if the domain flipping was in league with the storage of a coil? (11:01:58) MileHigh: I don't know what you mean by "kinetic base." Many times you use your own language and terms unto yourself. (11:01:58) giantkiller: like a resonant level of operation. Then you could the kinetic with the sympathetic? (11:02:55) giantkiller: Kinetic base: the amout of activity in a certain time or usage frame. (11:03:19) giantkiller: Kinetic base: the amout of activity in a certain time or usage frame. (11:03:50) MileHigh: GK, your language is very vague and open to lots of intrepretation. (11:05:09) MileHigh: I suggest that you try experiments because you areoff in la la land with your terminology so perhaps a physical test on the bench would be better. (11:05:48) giantkiller: the domain flipping happens at the end of every cycle distance. (11:06:20) giantkiller: raise the frequency and that distance shortens. (11:07:16) giantkiller: Sorry off on a tangent (11:07:22) MileHigh: No one uses the term "kinetic base" when talking electronics, magnetics, power, energy, etc. You isolate yourself when you do that. You may think that you are 'open minded' and iviting people 'in' to your ideas but the opposite actually takes place. (11:07:22) giantkiller: ibrb (11:10:36) MileHigh: For all, just repeating myself here, quoting EM, "Not only was he going up against somebody who knows more than him in that particular area of knowledge, which he did not expect" (11:23:26) MileHigh: If I am misunderstaning you then I take it back. (11:23:41) giantkiller: I see. I was refering to the negative diatribe and not you. I bid adue. (11:24:28) MileHigh: Your aversion to all negative talk is is too much GK, get real! (11:25:39) MileHigh: I can read the poll thread and I will repeat your comments where you claim you know more than me about electronics are false and if you had integrity you would edit your postings (11:27:55) MileHigh: "exposed his ignorance about amp meters and electronics in general." This is a garbage statement by you where you are trying to prop yourself up. Repeat: I know way more than you and I am quite decent wrt electrionics. Get real. (11:28:19) giantkiller: MH, your insecurities are showing. Who cares who said what. Just do OU and not the rest of us. (11:29:25) MileHigh: No GK, you are just trying to play the passive teddy bear. Some things are worth standing up for, and my integrity is worth standing up for. (11:29:45) giantkiller: Who the hell beat you as a child that now you mimic the opportunity to repeat? (11:30:25) MileHigh: EM want to step on me to prop himself up and it's fake and it's not happening. (11:30:42) giantkiller: Just tell someone what they are missing to progress forward and stop the pontification. Nobody cares. (11:30:56) MileHigh: GK, that's just you playing the soft teddy bear again. (11:31:51) giantkiller: You sir are a lonely wounded warrior. I truly pity your enterprise. (11:32:28) giantkiller: The soft teddy is action of compassion. Have you had none shown to you? (11:32:52) MileHigh: GK, you can have your oiwn set of values where 'everything is cool all the time.' Or at least you want to create that appearance. But when i challenge you your first reaction is to ben me. Kind of contradictory, don't you think? You can't have it both ways. (11:33:04) MileHigh: to ban me (11:33:50) giantkiller: It is now documented for all to see. (11:34:27) giantkiller: What is wrong with things being ok or cool? (11:34:54) MileHigh: Giantkiller, will you stop the "i truly pity you" bullshit? You are so passive agressive. You are not youself, you are playing a game where you are projecting what you think you shoudl be. I am 100 times mroe real than you. So fo with the "i pity you" crap. Do we understand wach other? (11:35:42) giantkiller: if someone is missong a fact are they to be considered dead meat? get a beating? put to shame? What reflects to you in the mirror? (11:36:05) MileHigh: EM is trying to step on me in some postings and what he is saying is a loi about me and a lie about himslef. Do you get that? (11:36:15) MileHigh: is a like (11:36:19) MileHigh: oop is a lie (11:37:21) giantkiller: History tells all. You once told me the Tesla didn't know what he was talking about. (11:37:43) MileHigh: The truth is what counts wether it be an experiment or some technical discussions or discussing someone's character and abilities. And that's real GK, not fluffy bubbies where everything is comfortably numb. (11:38:08) MileHigh: is a lie (11:38:37) EMdevices: I posted stuff and it's now showing up, what's happening here? (11:38:54) MileHigh: GK, yes you are probably a big Tesla fan so that stetement was sacrilidge for sure. I can't remember the context or the specifics so it's kind of moot. (11:39:45) EMdevices: test 1 2 3 (11:39:52) EMdevices: ok, when you guys don't post I can post (11:40:03) EMdevices: hold on a second let me address MH (11:40:03) MileHigh: you have to copy every statement beforer you hit the shout button and paste it back if required (11:40:18) EMdevices: oh, didn't know that (11:41:37) EMdevices: MH, I will gladly edit my post if you admit that you were confused about how the analog ampmenter worked, even WW corrected you. (11:41:59) EMdevices: and I do not prop myself up on you, but on my education and experience (11:42:16) EMdevices: If you feel that you know more than me, good for you. (11:43:17) EMdevices: and congratulations on sticking to your instincts about the romerouk videos, good for you. (11:43:42) EMdevices: you were right and I was wrong (11:43:57) MileHigh: That's ridiculous EM. I don't know all the nuances with resoect to analog multimeters except to say that if attack is much faster than decay I am thinking an analog multimter can give incorrect readings with a specific excitation subject to conformation on the bench. (11:45:21) Peterae: the chat works well and shout drops a lot (11:46:03) MileHigh: You created enough noise to get me banned and you wrong the whole time and I was right the whole time. Your emails are a perfect gentlemanly Dr. Jecky character and your posting behaviiour was a crazy mad Mr. Hyde character. I can see right through you (11:48:01) Peterae: name calling just creates anger and then a shouting match starts, there just no need for name calling (11:48:15) EMdevices: how do I get to the chat? (11:48:22) MileHigh: As far as I am concerned you are a poseur EM, and if that's what you want to do I can't stop you. But you will not bullshit about my qualifications. (11:48:26) EMdevices: never mind (11:48:27) Peterae: click the chat button is it up top (11:49:25) MileHigh: Yes Peter but everything in moderation. This is not a grade one class, we are all adults. (11:50:43) Peterae: MH is the link not there (11:50:50) Peterae: for chat (11:50:59) Peterae: http://www.overunityresearch.com/chat/index.php
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