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Research the network of Deep Underground Military Bases and who
is collaborated with in pursuit of Star Wars Technologies/Black Projects.
There you will find the explanation.  They are here now and more will
arrive soon.

The coming final war will be a doozy.

A few of the whistleblowers are still alive.
Those who have been terminated did provide accounts of what
they had witnessed.  Some of their story will be very hard to believe.

While I entertain certain possibilities and probabilities to the points you represent, your account of the matter is provided without sufficient substantiating evidence.

I have no choice but to treat it as hearsay, and with mind to the potential divert some resources to information process. I would be obliged if you could save me the effort and provide source material.

I see no reason to invoke at this critical point in time external forces (aliens), to explain the governing energy scarcity ideology and moral corruption paradigm leading the human species (Great Ape) to inevitable extinction taking most of the life out of planet Earth with it. Idiocracy!


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Research the network of Deep Underground Military Bases and who
is collaborated with in pursuit of Star Wars Technologies/Black Projects.
There you will find the explanation.  They are here now and more will
arrive soon.

The coming final war will be a doozy.

A few of the whistleblowers are still alive.
Those who have been terminated did provide accounts of what
they had witnessed.  Some of their story will be very hard to believe.

Hi muDped

I agree that OU is paradoxical and there are deep secrets in this area.

For what is visible on youtube etc. there are only a very few devices worthy of study. The rest are the low hanging fruit easily explained and dismissed, as they are usually built by folks who haven't got a clue how to properly test their own work.

I shudder to think of an upcoming global war. Lets hope by some miracle it does not happen.

Regards, ION





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I shudder to think of an upcoming global war. Lets hope by some miracle it does not happen.

The war is in it's final covert stage before overt denial becomes implausible.

Unlike previous human wars it is not a duality, good v evil.. it is a triune.

The West may square off against the East but it is the bulk of the people that decide where the moral support base exists.


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welcome to the forum, its all part of the mystery !

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Chet K

Hi Conrad, good to see you here. We have shared ideas in the past. On the other forum (OU.com) I use my old handle of Vortex1.

Yes, I agree we must question the purpose of such videos since not enough info for replication is given.

My belief is that many folk are posting such "magik tricks" in the hope to get lots of youtube hits and some supplemental income.

The fact that no real information is given is so that no one replicates and debunks the device, this way it is kept a mystery, continually keeps racking up youtube views and if the presenter is really lucky will find a benefactor with deep pockets.

We can only hope that Andrian is an honest presenter, does not fall into the above category and will divulge at some later point.

Unfortunately this has not been the case with most of similar presentations.

Regards, ION

Hello Chet K, I always like a mystery and hope to find some here.

Hello ION, let's hope some mysterious honest folks show up in this forum.

Unfortunately I do not know how to produce a miracle. That is why I try to find one.

Greetings, Conrad

   

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I have no choice but to treat it as hearsay, and with mind to the potential divert some resources to information process. I would be obliged if you could save me the effort and provide source material.

I see no reason to invoke at this critical point in time external forces (aliens)...

Aye, it is difficult to come to grips with.  The most
persuasive "source material" would be my experiences
and exposures, both while active military and beyond.
But those too would be only "hearsay."

I'm afraid the only alternative is to dig, for those who
may be interested in finding what truth is presently
available, for answers.  Until such time, that is, when
World Events will remove all doubt.

Whether one makes effort to seek "evidence" or not
will not matter.  In due time we will all see who "they"
are and what they have.  At the rate World Events are
moving toward that end it shouldn't be more than perhaps
a decade or two in the future.

In the meantime what has begun in the Middle East has
reached a focal point in Syria.  What happens there next
will be a prelude to the final event.  Yes, a madness or "Idiocracy"
has overtaken "The West" for a certainty.


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For those who like illusions, this guy does a good one, and much simpler than Andrian's device:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErbXiXsyc9k&feature=youtu.be

He has some companion videos also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYG5-T0135E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNShdzUNpo0&feature=youtu.be

Last one is easier to debunk.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-T85mzhVQI&feature=youtu.be

very interesting Vid from Our friend Wesley

   
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Wesley says ........How to build Tariel Kapanadze device.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be
   

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Well isn't that nice.

I can tell you how to build a faster-than-light spacedrive. Maybe Wesley can figure out how to plug his TK-box into my FTL to power it.


Oh... wait.... Wesley doesn't actually have a working TK-box.... and I don't actually have a FTL drive.



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well
would not want to guess about Wesley's boxes ,he has lots of boxes

some of them may not be socially acceptable [emission issues]

but it would be nice to see something working that has no emissions to worry about
and to hear Wesley talk about the "TK" box [Not to be confused with any _other_ Tk's
who may wish to mingle fanciful technologies]

Wesley's _pending_ TK box has no such emission concerns ,But .....[Big BUT here]
does it Do what it Do ??

that is

Pump energy from the Ambient potential ??

i really do think we will get a chance to see ??
soon....



 
   

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Wesley seems to have lost his mind. He seems to be extremely excited about this obvious fake, spamming at least three forum threads with the same link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-M55XP3D4A

"Is it real? You tell me."  No, Wesley, it's not real.


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around 8 min mark it is shown aloft
and 9 min mark he starts with the stick and looking for fake support strings


The Vid made me smile ....
I would like to see another vid with a good demonstration [a support camera man walking around looking and listening throughout the presentation [no edits]



   
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around 8 min mark it is shown aloft
and 9 min mark he starts with the stick and looking for fake support strings

The Vid made me smile ....

Antigrav is simply cooler than overunity. ;D ;D ;D   It inspires in a way that lighting bulbs does not.
John Bedin's systems never had a huge number of replications partly because battery chargers are boring.

That isn't to say it's real, but the next step is the same.  Real or fake, the question is still 'How?'


Closest conventional research involving HV against rotating superconductors I can recall was Podkletnov:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2014/05/update-on-podkletnov-gravity.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060325232140.htm

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The closest woo-woo design would seem to be Kosol device.  This would give us a good idea on the material composition of the disk if it's a real video:
http://www.americanantigravity.com/files/articles/Kosol-Interview.pdf
https://overunity.com/2035/the-kosol-sphere/dlattach/attach/6348/
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Antigrav is simply cooler than overunity. ;D ;D ;D

Not only cooler, you can bet  control of gravity is linked to OU. You can also be sure that it is the most guarded secret on the planet. Released it would put the mafia's that control the world out of business. Imagine all the worker bees leaving the planet, no more honey for the keepers.

And those that chose to stay wouldn't need their oil. With abundant FE, any element you want can be transmuted or even created.

The ramifications are enormous, it would mean the end of the current "system of things".


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There is abundant evidence on our Planet that a
High Technology Society of some sort existed
several thousands of years ago.  It has been predicted
that we'll see a "replay" of those technologies in our
present age.  We may soon have revealed to us the
True Source of what we now call "Over-unity" or
"Anomalous Free Energy."  Very interesting times we
are in for sure.


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Take a look at Alexey Chekurkov's channel.  This guy didn't come out of nowhere, that's for sure:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw

There's a dozen videos over the past few years with a very clear progression to them.  This is evidently from a rumored antigrav platform long ago that claimed to use beetle shells to make a repulsive platform.

He starts early tests by analyzing what looks to be beetle shells with HV and with a microscope, then progresses to homemade 'wing' tests with an unknown metal sheeting (emi magnetic shielding sheet?).  Then he tests rotating disks, analyzing the vibration patterns.  Then building small counter-rotating proto-craft that is similar to the first test.

Attached are some screenshots of his different setups and experiments.

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Grumpy and others had some interesting comments and contributions here.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2331.msg36184#msg36184

Wesley said the time spent here [watching his recent Video] ...would be well spent time ?

perhaps he has more insight ...

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Those videos of that spinning thing are so obviously faked that I feel sorry for Wesley. I think he's losing his mind. The first one was debunked long ago, where the device falls to the floor when the thread suspending it breaks. The second video is even more laughable, where the fellow holds the "high voltage" wires in his hands, and the height of the device stays constant while the load from the weight of the wires varies as he holds them (and doesn't get shocked). And in strong winds, even! Any drone pilot will tell you what kind of sophisticated autopilot or fancy control manipulation is needed to keep a flying thing hovering in one spot at constant altitude in strong winds. The "stick trick" where he pretends to show that it isn't suspended from above is an old stage magician's trick; from the audience's perspective you can't tell that the stick actually never crosses the suspending fishing line hanging from the tree limb up above. And the connection to the battery: sure, just wrap a bit of wire a few times around a post, loosely enough that you can just dislodge it with your fingers, without making any spark..... LOL!

You can talk about Grebennikov all you like but this device has nothing to do with anything attributed to Greb. The Greb flying platform reportedly used louvers, like venetian blinds or like the Cavorite system, nothing rotating, and no magnets or even any power supply, it was just working by the chitin's electrostatic properties. This thing uses counterrotating disks bearing magnets (allegedly) and power supplies. And of course... the thread or fishing line.

I can't wait to see who falls for this and starts "replicating".


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Those videos of that spinning thing are so obviously faked that I feel sorry for Wesley. I think he's losing his mind.
Starting an argument with a personal attack is not a good strategy. :-\

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The first one was debunked long ago, where the device falls to the floor when the thread suspending it breaks.
More than likely.  Watch the human-sized shadow in the 1st video next to the disc.  The shadow moves in-line with the craft movement.

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The second video is even more laughable, where the fellow holds the "high voltage" wires in his hands, and the height of the device stays constant while the load from the weight of the wires varies as he holds them (and doesn't get shocked).
Anyone who's played with high voltage knows there's nothing fancy about that.  Even thin-shielded cables are enough to avoid shocks against >30kv. (though they will buzz and emit corona)

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And in strong winds, even! Any drone pilot will tell you what kind of sophisticated autopilot or fancy control manipulation is needed to keep a flying thing hovering in one spot at constant altitude in strong winds.
Decent argument O0.  Though someone would probably counter that the device acts as its own inertia field and counters thrust and rotation on all axes.

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The "stick trick" where he pretends to show that it isn't suspended from above is an old stage magician's trick; from the audience's perspective you can't tell that the stick actually never crosses the suspending fishing line hanging from the tree limb up above.
Good catch. O0

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And the connection to the battery: sure, just wrap a bit of wire a few times around a post, loosely enough that you can just dislodge it with your fingers, without making any spark..... LOL!
Disconnecting a load from a battery doesn't always make sparks.  Meh.

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You can talk about Grebennikov all you like but this device has nothing to do with anything attributed to Greb. The Greb flying platform reportedly used louvers, like venetian blinds or like the Cavorite system, nothing rotating, and no magnets or even any power supply, it was just working by the chitin's electrostatic properties. This thing uses counterrotating disks bearing magnets (allegedly) and power supplies. And of course... the thread or fishing line.
Good to know. ;D


Better analysis would leave out the emotion and just start with listening to the audio at the point where the craft starts falling, at 10:56 in Wesley's video (attached).  Sounds like wire stretching followed by a tree-branch snap.
(rope stretching sound effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH3LsshSAG8  )

Then they'd point out the odd ratio of stability (that the vehicle is completely stable in rotation and horizontally, but drifts up-and-down vertically (in-sync with the trees blowing nearby in the wind) C.C


I still like the videos.  They inspire the imagination in a way that OU does not. ;D ;D ;D
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I did like Alexey's method starting with microscopic analysis of animal structures and systems in nature before progressing to more practical experiments.

But starting from hard-science rather than of nature, the highest likelihood of success is likely to be found in metamaterials that have an intermix of diamagnetic, paramagnetic, ferromagnetic, and/or piezoelectric properties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiferroics

This is partly due to the tenancy that most superconductors are composed of mixtures of diamagnetic and magnetic materials.  Since superconductivity is a situation where currents are locked into a continuous loop unable to escape, it acts as a 'virtual inertia'; and indeed many electrical engineering lessons describe currents inside an inductor this way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_superconductivity

If we couple this with HV impulses, we may indeed be able to create situations where the superconductor creates Lorentz deflection against the charged particles to force them into stable orbits around the superconductor, allowing us to pump energy into a region of space faster than it can be dissipated.  In effect, we'd end up with an artificial 'density' (due to the inertia of the charged particles being injected into the system).

Of course, the closest we can get to superconductors on the bench of course are regular LC tank circuits. C.C  B fields in opposition of course, so we don't waste energy coupling magnetically to free space.

Anyway, that's my ramblings.  Fun stuff to ponder ;)
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