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I picked up a book a few weeks ago:

"Unconventional Flying Objects" by Paul Hill

Unlike other books on UFO's, this book is a scientific analysis of many documented cases by an aerodynamicist who spent a career at NASA.

He concludes that the propulsive force depicted by UFO's has a CW rotation, a cyclic (pulse) element, and that is can be focused.

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Both Podkletnov and Townsend Brown talk about force fields similar to gravity in that they will penetrate objects, and both being a pushing force.

http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/space/eugene-podkletnovs-gravity-impulse-generator.html

http://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/ecomm/ecomm.htm




   
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I would like to add things to this topic:
http://aetherforce.com/the-true-story-of-teslas-radiant-matter/ - "The sudden quick closure of the switch now brought a penetrating shockwave throughout the laboratory, one which could be felt both as a sharp pressure and a penetrating electrical irritation. A “sting”. Face and hands were especially sensitive to the explosive shockwaves, which also produced a curious “stinging” effect at close range. Tesla believed that material particles approaching the vapor state were literally thrust out of the wires in all directions. In order to better study these effects, he poised himself behind a glass shield and resumed the study. Despite the shield, both shockwaves and stinging effects were felt by the now mystified Tesla. This anomaly provoked a curiosity of the very deepest kind, for such a thing was never before observed. More powerful and penetrating than the mere electrostatic charging of metals, this phenomenon literally propelled high voltage charge out into the surrounding space where it was felt as a stinging sensation. The stings lasting for a small fraction of a second, the instant of switch closure. But Tesla believed that these strange effects were a Simple effect of ionized shockwaves in the air, rather like a strongly ionized thunderclap."

http://www.thomastownsendbrown.com/ecomm/ecomm.htm - Same as in N. Tesla case, "The rapid alterations of voltage (at radio frequency) on the heavy mass (2) is believed to induce an electro-gravitic effect and cause the propagation of gravitational waves of the same frequency. These waves appear to radiate from the center of gravity of mass (2) and penetrate the surrounding electrically-grounded shield (1). Passing outward, as a succession of concentric spherical fronts, and being attenuated as the square of the distance, these gravitational waves penetrate shield (5) of the receiver and induce an alternating voltage upon mass (6). The alternating voltage upon mass (6). The alternating voltage induced is a function of the amplitude of the gravitational wave (carrier) received at this point. When the circuit is tuned by inductor (7) so as to be in resonance with the carrier, maximum energy is fed to receiver (8 ) and converted into audible sound in accordance with the modulated signal of the transmitter."

http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/space/eugene-podkletnovs-gravity-impulse-generator.html - "The gravity impulse generator utilizes a high-voltage electrical discharge from a Marx-Generator which is applied to a stationary superconducting emitter in a high intensity magnetic field."  All parametric resonance free energy generators are utilizing this, including Kapanadze.

And the Electrogravitics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5W28OihN0 also add up there.

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After thinking about this for a while, I think that is might only require a rotating force field in the opposite direction to the natural one.

   

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http://drjudywood.com/articles/a/gravity/gravity.html

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In conclusion, to control gravity a definition that explains how gravity works is needed so that work can be done to assure a safe world and economic stability for us as a nation It will be this in the future that will give cheap and clean energy and open many new avenues for power production and space flight. To do this one will need to focus energy using a vortex field and then channeling the energy from it. This will indeed be used to help us better understand and control the gravity energies being released.
   
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Gravitational mass and inertial mass have been found to be equivalent by many experiments.  Thus if gravity is a quantum effect then so is inertia, and whatever waves/particles are responsible for gravity effects then those same quanta are responsible for inertial effects (Don't accept the taught view that inertia is an internal property of a mass particle, that it somehow resists change of motion.  Simple experiments with a precessing gyro demonstrating its "magical" balancing properties, then the same gyro without its mass spinning but with applied forces holding it in its "magical" condition, clearly show the external nature of inertial forces.).  You can derive a theoretical understanding for mass as something that continually absorbs these gravo-inertial quanta that are whizzing about through space, and for stable mass continually emit quanta at the same average rate.  If those quanta travel at the speed of light they have zero rest mass but they can carry momentum and energy and spin (like neutrinos).  Then mass continually absorbs momentum from all directions and continually emits momentum in all directions.  It the mass has some internal property of (a) every time it absorbs one quanta from a given direction it emits one quanta to travel in the same direction as the one received (just like Newton's Cradle where the impact on one side of the stationary balls causes the ball at the other end to jump off) and (b) have a time delay between that single absorption and that single emission, then you have inertia simply from rate-of-change of momentum.  With a stationary mass particle the force on the absorbing face due to the absorbed momenta is equal to the force on the emitting face due to the emitted momenta.  The same is true for the particle traveling at constant velocity.  But when the particle is accelerating  the internal time delay causes an imbalance to those forces and the particle exhibits inertia. You can derive a formula for inertial mass that uses the momentum of each space quanta, the spatial density of those quanta, the collision cross section of the mass particle, the internal time delay and the speed of light.  And clearly those inertial forces are not some internal property of mass to magically resist change of motion, they come from interaction with space.

If that model holds then we also need the same mass model to explain gravity.  How can those space quanta arriving at our static test particle create what we perceive as a gravitational force?  Well one clue is that some of the space quanta arriving at our test mass have been emitted from the nearby mass that is causing the gravitational force, and if we cared to examine the spatial density of those particular quanta we would arrive at the inverse square law.  So somehow that nearby mass is creating a distortion to the otherwise uniform arrival characteristics of quanta, we are beginning to get some perception of "warped space" not as a geometrical warping of space itself, but as a warping of the quanta that invade space.  What can that warping be?  Well one possibility involves the characteristic of the space quanta not used so far, and that is spin.  This is appealing since spin can also account for electromagnetic effects, where the space quanta are considered as "virtual photons".  Put simply EM effects can be modeled by giving the mass particle a slightly different characteristic from that above in that the direction that it emits a quanta is determined by the spin of the arriving absorbed quanta, and that spin axis need not be parallel to its arriving velocity.  And when emitted the quanta has spin parallel or anti-parallel to the emitted velocity.  This offers some interesting features that explain what electric charge really is, and magnetic and electric effects.  Now we need to think about gravity, not as a particle to particle phenomenon where there is but one force, but as an average effect for a large number of particles where EM effects cancel out, i.e. as a force between what we know as electrically neutral lumps of matter.  Now we have the situation where "flat space" (no nearby lumps of matter) has on average a uniform density of arriving quanta over all arrival angles, and those quanta have on average a fixed angle between their spin vectors and their velocity vectors.  Their spins have on average a fixed degree of transversivity.  The net result on out test lump of matter is a balance between absorption and emission of momenta, there is no average force.  However when close to another lump of matter some of the quanta arriving from that direction have been absorbed then re-emitted from that nearby lump, and these on average have zero spin transversivity, their spins are aligned with their velocity.  This results in an imbalance of absorption and emission forces at our test lump, which is a force of attraction between the two lumps.  Of course the same can be said of quanta emitted from our test lump and arriving at the nearby lump, that also gets an attractive force.

This gravitation model has similarities to the concept of space quanta applying an inward pressure to matter, wher a nearby lump of matter acts as a shield to those incoming quanta.  But it should be noted that quanta like neutrinos can travel through the inter-atomic space of normal matter, only a small number actually get absorbed (then in my model get re-emitted), so the "warping" effect is quite small.

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Hello all,

maybe some know this aready: The Experiment of Prof. Sasz ( Ungaria)

First an intro to ZARM:  The Location - ZARM the German Drop-Tower in the city of Bremen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QKzcFR5fSY

The experiment was done one time. The crew was so excited that they wanted to continue with a full programm of tests..... but some physics professor of a german institution made a call and then everthing was stopped.
Please read the text below the vid. You need to replay it a few times because it´s over in 4 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkNjvCmsWOU

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Talk about the drop experiment with Gyula I. Szász (in hungarian).

This is an experimentum crucis which falsificated the Universality of Free Fall (UFF) of Galilei. The physicists have never checked the UFF assumption bevor with an accuracy of 10^-5 in drop experiments.

The drop Experiment of Szasz was performed in the drop tower of the University of Bremen 21/06/2004 and the video shows the different acceleration of the elements Al, Pb, C and Li.

Szasz has a new explanation of gravity: The four stable particles, the electron, positron, proton and elton (often called as 'antiproton') have two kinds of quantised charges. The elementary gravitational charges cause the gravity as an interaction between particles with attraction and repulsion.

Einstein's mass-energy equivalence relation
E = m c^2 is not valid in nature.

We have to go back to atomistic physics of Boltzmann in Minkowski space.

The quantum effects in nature occure because the existence of quantised charges of the four stable elementary particles and not because of the quantisation of energy.

Sir Isaac Newton wrote in his Principia:
"Nature does nothing in vain, and more is in vain when less will serve; Nature is pleased with simplicity and affects not the pomp of superfluous causes."

Perhaps, you have not to learn hungarian but you have to learn the New Physics in "Physics of Elementary Processes", Budapest (2005), ISBN: 963 219 791 7 of course.

More information can also be found on the website: atomsz.com

His wbnsite:

http://atomsz.com/

Translation of a discussion in a german forum, as Prof, Szasz speaks german

https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.index.hu%2FArticle%2FshowArticle%3Fgo%3D81064567%26t%3D9173847%26token%3Db491233a1798a4b87e15eb5a682313ed&edit-text=

Regards

Mike ( germany )




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Gravitational mass and inertial mass have been found to be equivalent by many experiments.  Thus if gravity is a quantum effect then so is inertia, and whatever waves/particles are responsible for gravity effects then those same quanta are responsible for inertial effects (Don't accept the taught view that inertia is an internal property of a mass particle, that it somehow resists change of motion.  Simple experiments with a precessing gyro demonstrating its "magical" balancing properties, then the same gyro without its mass spinning but with applied forces holding it in its "magical" condition, clearly show the external nature of inertial forces.).  You can derive a theoretical understanding for mass as something that continually absorbs these gravo-inertial quanta that are whizzing about through space, and for stable mass continually emit quanta at the same average rate.  If those quanta travel at the speed of light they have zero rest mass but they can carry momentum and energy and spin (like neutrinos).  Then mass continually absorbs momentum from all directions and continually emits momentum in all directions.  It the mass has some internal property of (a) every time it absorbs one quanta from a given direction it emits one quanta to travel in the same direction as the one received (just like Newton's Cradle where the impact on one side of the stationary balls causes the ball at the other end to jump off) and (b) have a time delay between that single absorption and that single emission, then you have inertia simply from rate-of-change of momentum.  With a stationary mass particle the force on the absorbing face due to the absorbed momenta is equal to the force on the emitting face due to the emitted momenta.  The same is true for the particle traveling at constant velocity.  But when the particle is accelerating  the internal time delay causes an imbalance to those forces and the particle exhibits inertia. You can derive a formula for inertial mass that uses the momentum of each space quanta, the spatial density of those quanta, the collision cross section of the mass particle, the internal time delay and the speed of light.  And clearly those inertial forces are not some internal property of mass to magically resist change of motion, they come from interaction with space.

If that model holds then we also need the same mass model to explain gravity.  How can those space quanta arriving at our static test particle create what we perceive as a gravitational force?  Well one clue is that some of the space quanta arriving at our test mass have been emitted from the nearby mass that is causing the gravitational force, and if we cared to examine the spatial density of those particular quanta we would arrive at the inverse square law.  So somehow that nearby mass is creating a distortion to the otherwise uniform arrival characteristics of quanta, we are beginning to get some perception of "warped space" not as a geometrical warping of space itself, but as a warping of the quanta that invade space.  What can that warping be?  Well one possibility involves the characteristic of the space quanta not used so far, and that is spin.  This is appealing since spin can also account for electromagnetic effects, where the space quanta are considered as "virtual photons".  Put simply EM effects can be modeled by giving the mass particle a slightly different characteristic from that above in that the direction that it emits a quanta is determined by the spin of the arriving absorbed quanta, and that spin axis need not be parallel to its arriving velocity.  And when emitted the quanta has spin parallel or anti-parallel to the emitted velocity.  This offers some interesting features that explain what electric charge really is, and magnetic and electric effects.  Now we need to think about gravity, not as a particle to particle phenomenon where there is but one force, but as an average effect for a large number of particles where EM effects cancel out, i.e. as a force between what we know as electrically neutral lumps of matter.  Now we have the situation where "flat space" (no nearby lumps of matter) has on average a uniform density of arriving quanta over all arrival angles, and those quanta have on average a fixed angle between their spin vectors and their velocity vectors.  Their spins have on average a fixed degree of transversivity.  The net result on out test lump of matter is a balance between absorption and emission of momenta, there is no average force.  However when close to another lump of matter some of the quanta arriving from that direction have been absorbed then re-emitted from that nearby lump, and these on average have zero spin transversivity, their spins are aligned with their velocity.  This results in an imbalance of absorption and emission forces at our test lump, which is a force of attraction between the two lumps.  Of course the same can be said of quanta emitted from our test lump and arriving at the nearby lump, that also gets an attractive force.

This gravitation model has similarities to the concept of space quanta applying an inward pressure to matter, wher a nearby lump of matter acts as a shield to those incoming quanta.  But it should be noted that quanta like neutrinos can travel through the inter-atomic space of normal matter, only a small number actually get absorbed (then in my model get re-emitted), so the "warping" effect is quite small.

Smudge

Dear Smudge,

Brilliant thinking and understandable writing, thank you for sharing here!

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For the same reasons that electricity creates magnetism,
and magnetism creates electricity.

Intense electric and magnetic fields interacting in the same physical space,
can distort space-time.

Physical matter begins to diverge at around 1.7Mv

spacetime itself begins to distort around 2 million volts.
This was discovered at the Seran Wrap factory. (force field)
They now implement technology to disperse the static charge that builds up on their rollers.

Short-duration impulses create an effect similar to an electrified shock-wave.
the ionization/deionization of the air exceeds 340.3 m/s.
this creates a physical wave of force through the air, proportional to the voltage divided by the pulse duration.
Higher the voltage, shorter the pulse, the greater the force. Lightning works in a similar manner...
very high voltage lightning bolts, that discharge quickly, can shake the earth for miles around.

in a small space, these waves can be very destructive.

When this energy is focused into a beam it can disassociate physical matter.
not just punch holes in walls, but actual disintegration.
Most of these weapons are cooled with liquid nitrogen, similar to a high-powered laser weapon.

I like the idea of using this technology for propulsion or orbital stabilization,
but let's be honest here...
if this becomes understood by the general public,
we are going to have to ban superconductors...




   
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When this energy is focused into a beam it can disassociate physical matter.
not just punch holes in walls, but actual disintegration.
Most of these weapons are cooled with liquid nitrogen, similar to a high-powered laser weapon.

Thanks Sm0ky2

How can it be concentrated like a laser ray? By what type of mirrors?

As I remember, Tesla in his patent: "METHOD OF UTILIZING RADIANT ENERGY" showed a tube with parallel rays/beam toward a plate, is there any source that shows how Tesla could focus these type of Rays/Beam?

Thanks for showing me any source of study(If you have).
   
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