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If you place a bat magnet inside a solenoid coil, does this change the response of the coil when pulsed?

There are in fact two questions in your question.
A bar magnet has generally a permeability different from air. Therefore the response of the coil is changed with a bar magnet inside the solenoid.
But:
the fact that the bar magnet is magnetized or not, doesn't change the response of the coil (except if magnetizing the bar would have changed its permeability). The change of the response of the coil is not due to the constant magnetic field but to the bar permeability, as for any core of any material.

When I tested coils with magnet cores, something surprised me: one might expect the permeability of strong magnets to be high but surprisingly it is very low. The relative permeability of neodymium or Co-Sm is only 1.05!


   
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It's just that the CIA, NSA and others like Homeland Security look at everything! (they have the legal right),
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 ;D   CIA and NSA control the world!
Not one OU invention in any country can escape from the big conspiracy of the men in black!
I'm very afraid, not because of them, but by the level of childishness of these assertions.

Even US diplomatic emails and classified documents have been published by WikiLeaks, but an inventor couldn't let know his genious invention?  C.C  
What a wishful thinking to avoid to face the reality: there are not yet OU devices!

Sorry to reply to this old post, I would have missed it in 2011!
   
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It appears William Barbat's website (Levitronics) is still up and running, but no new posts  or info there:

http://www.levitronicsenergy.com/science.htm

I tried to post to their blogspot to no avail. It appears only one person (one of the contacts) has posted there.

http://levitronics.blogspot.com/

Is this turning out to be vaporware?

Probably. One of the many sites that creates a buzz from mistakes or lies, and the next year, it's over, they found their mistake but don't say it, or they got the money that they were seeking.

   

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There are in fact two questions in your question.
A bar magnet has generally a permeability different from air. Therefore the response of the coil is changed with a bar magnet inside the solenoid.
But:
the fact that the bar magnet is magnetized or not, doesn't change the response of the coil (except if magnetizing the bar would have changed its permeability). The change of the response of the coil is not due to the constant magnetic field but to the bar permeability, as for any core of any material.

When I tested coils with magnet cores, something surprised me: one might expect the permeability of strong magnets to be high but surprisingly it is very low. The relative permeability of neodymium or Co-Sm is only 1.05!

All common knowledge but without the detail concerning whether or not the applied magnet saturates the core material.

Provided the magnet applied to the ferrous core saturates that core, all of the above is true and the apparent permeability of that core + magnet will be near 1.

If the applied magnet only brings the core to near saturation then you have a solenoid which will appear different to pulses of differing polarity.

This is in line with the fact that the permeability of ferromagnetic materials change with applied magnetic flux, the inductance of a coil with a ferromagnetic core will generally vary with current in the same way it will vary when a magnet is applied to the same core.

Imagine that.... a 1mH coil is only 1mH if the applied frequency and current is just right  :D


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Back to the meat of the thread: Has anyone had any luck in finding the English translation of this document?

E. Leimer (1915), Uber Radiumantennen, ), Elektrotechnische Zeitschrift, Heft 8, Feb. 25; English translation, (1916a) The Electrician, Apr. 21; (1916b) Scientific American Supplement No. 2127, Oct. 7.


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Back to the meat of the thread: Has anyone had any luck in finding the English translation of this document?

E. Leimer (1915), Uber Radiumantennen, ), Elektrotechnische Zeitschrift, Heft 8, Feb. 25; English translation, (1916a) The Electrician, Apr. 21; (1916b) Scientific American Supplement No. 2127, Oct. 7.

Parts, if not most of it, are on page 233 of http://books.google.com/books?id=dgA9AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA353&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false


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Here's the Leimer article from The Electrician, April 21, 1916


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Bill seems to be out of contact [still checking other resources]
phone and Email disconnected.
unfortunately has been a few years [ 2015] since we talked ,I hope he is alright ?

here is his Book

https://books.google.com/books?id=7uu4BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=Leimer+radium&source=bl&ots=ipXHkxlXb2&sig=KbIid9Og0YVgtIHH3NDb7WSN1lE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMIxpPby_m_xwIVyaOICh2pyAiC#v=onepage&q=Leimer%20radium&f=false
   
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Trailer for the book:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVLFiFdgMs


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Published on Aug 3, 2015

We live in an age of trusting the "experts".  But what happens when the so-called experts are wrong? and their misinformation is allowing us to destroy ourselves? In Science Myths We Tell Ourselves, William Barbat demonstrates the incorrect reasoning behind "facts" we have been taught, including the Big Bang, instant creation, continental drift, and spreading sea floors. Skeptic's assertions that the climate is not changing are dissproven by Barbat's update of his 1973 climate study, which definitively proves that the world's desert belts are expanding pole-ward, like the expansion of the Sahara Desert of North Africa, which ended the Ice Age. The recent drought in the mid continental US, and the pervasive droughts in California and Brazil may be previews of climate disasters brought on by mankind, unless we can halt climate change by rethinking our energy protocols. We've been told that energy cannot be created in nature, or by man, but the stunning central thesis of Science Myths We Tell Ourselves is that the "law" on which this belief is based (Helmholtz's Energy Conservation Law) is completely untrue? in fact, it was rejected as "metaphysics" in 1847 by the Berlin Physics Society. Scientists unwilling to examine the facts continue to propagate this misinformation while ignoring the potential for unlimited, non-polluting energy from low-mass electrons. This enlightening and fascinating book will challenge what you think you know, as well as providing hope and direction for a different future.

https://www.amazon.com/Science-Myths-We-Tell-Ourselves/dp/1478747765

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The author debunks many science concepts like the Big Bang, Instant Creation, Continental Drift, and Spreading Sea Floors, which are shown to be really just myths. A Big Bang explosion would require an escape velocity for galaxies of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times the speed of light. But more damaging to mankind is the myth that energy cannot be created in nature or by man. Few people know that Helmholtz's Energy Conservation "Law" was rejected as "metaphysics" in 1847 by the Berlin Physics Society, but that gullible scientists have accepted it anyway. So the extra energy from Low-Mass Electrons is wrongly attributed to mythical "lattice vibrations," yet it had generated electric power a century ago and could be used to avert climate change. The unappreciated creation of energy in nature is shown by Larmor's 1897 formula for photon radiation from moving charges. All orbiting electrons and spinning protons continually create photons, which possess heat and mass, and they can split into electrons and positrons to provide the building blocks of matter in stars. Larmor heat photons replace the myth of fusion energy as the source of all heat in stars, and Larmor heat photons make planets' interiors gaseous. Ultimately, a buildup of non-fusible iron at the core of a mature star cools and shrinks to separate the core from an expanding hydrogen envelope of a red giant star. This leaves a new planet to add to Dark Matter, and its Larmor energy becomes Dark Energy. The myths of Continental Drift and Spreading Sea Floors are replaced with an origin of Earth as a piece torn from Jupiter's Great Red Spot by a planetary collision. Pieces of Jupiter's crust with an ice coating formed continents around a ball of molten rock to form Earth, leaving meltwater to fill the ocean deeps. Ice comets also came from Jupiter's ice coating as shown by their planar surfaces. The myth that a dynamo causes Earth's magnetic field is replaced by a lost formula derived by Gauss for the origin of magnetic force, which also explains the origin of Earth's ionospheric radiation belts. Maxwell had suppressed Gauss's formula as "conflicting with the Energy Conservation "Law." The author updates his 1973 climate study predicting that Global Warming would expand Earth's desert belts poleward, like the Sahara grew with post-Ice Age warming. A CO2 increase accounts for the recent Mid-continent drought and the current droughts in California and Brazil, but a sudden decline in sunspot activity has started a cooling trend. In 1973 Barbat also debunked myths of the cause of the Population Explosion, but experts challenged him despite admitting his 99% statistical correlation of what really brings down high birthrates.


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What is his source for this statement?:
"Few people know that Helmholtz's Energy Conservation "Law" was rejected as "metaphysics" in 1847 by the Berlin Physics Society, but that gullible scientists have accepted it anyway."

This reference doesn't agree:
https://books.google.com/books?id=tb5WFYlNbeAC&pg=PA11&lpg=PA11&dq=1847+berlin+physics+society+energy+conservation&source=bl&ots=fdLA1uUCuv&sig=vBmNUUZeX5xaIvitO7HULQsp76o&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi96fz33ezRAhWqv1QKHdBSAXIQ6AEIKDAC#v=onepage&q=1847%20berlin%20physics%20society%20energy%20conservation&f=false
   

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here is his Book

https://books.google.com/books?id=7uu4BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=Leimer+radium&source=bl&ots=ipXHkxlXb2&sig=KbIid9Og0YVgtIHH3NDb7WSN1lE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAWoVChMIxpPby_m_xwIVyaOICh2pyAiC#v=onepage&q=Leimer%20radium&f=false
Seems simple to verify whether the magnetic flux generated by a coil is also dependent on the material that its windings are composed of.
InSb wire is not unobtanium
   
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Very good news
Just had a nice Chat with one of Bills assistants ,very nice indeed .
I will be speaking with Bill when I get back home in a few days.

seems a new direction / idea is to be sorted.
@Grump
I will ask Bill that question.
@ Verpies
Hopefully we can get Bill here for some clarity and possible direction for experiments .

Thanks
Chet
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Regardless whether you buy the radiative nature of electromagnetic induction, that arrangement of 3 (or 4) coils in these geometric proportions should be tested.

I can get the chemicals to coat a cylindrical coil former but I am not equipped to machine a helix in it nor make pressure/spring connections with it.
   

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The question to ask Bill's assistants is "What is the advantage of a semiconductor coil/helix over a semiconductor sheet ?".
   
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I have not called him yet ,recovering from eye surgery[detached retina] and its been a bit ruff
hopefully the next few days will be better

thanks for the suggestions
   

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I have not called him yet ,recovering from eye surgery [detached retina]
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!   That is very serious!  I hope you caught it in time...
Is your monitor laying on the floor yet?
   
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Just got back from the surgeon [he operated last Tuesday]
all is good and holding tight ,and yes the monitor has been on the floor.

Sigh
no more MMA or Bull riding .....

for at least a cpl Months 

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Hi Chet,

Glad to hear your recovery is coming along OK.

Carroll


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Godspeed your recovery , Chet


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