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Again I'm relying on someone to put this topic in a more appropriate place, but I think many of you will find this very interesting if you don't already know about it:

http://pesn.com/2009/11/12/Child_rides_on_free_energy_Boyce_watkykjy1/

More info available from here:

http://www.waterfuelforall.com/forum/index.php

   
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This is quite bizarre if you haven't already seen it:

http://pesn.com/2009/11/28/9501591_Bob_Boyce_cancer_by_Verichip/
   
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Is this spooky or... or simply a sad publicity stunt of sorts?

http://pesn.com/2009/12/16/9501595_another_chip_in_Boyce_shoulder/
   
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http://pesn.com/2007/09/29/9500450_BobBoyce_Electrolizer_Plans/d9.pdf

See from page 26 for Boyce's three primary toroidal transformer.
   
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I take it as yet we have no one interested in Water fuel Cells or on-demand hydroxy production.

Until such time I guess I'll have to busy myself making new friends at:

http://www.waterfuelforall.com/forum/index.php

 ;)
   

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It's not as complicated as it may seem...
Farrah Day,

I'm interested in all electrolysis regimes, however one can only work on so many projects at a time, and fuel from water is not currently at the top on my own project list.

Please be sure to stick around and keep us posted on any new progress you or anyone else may be making in this area of research.

Thanks,
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.99, I fully understand.

The interesting thing is that I now tend to think that all the so-called over-Faraday high efficiency electrolysis is actually due to the pulsed inductor ccts that power them.

If therefore, the secret of these apparently over-Faraday results lies in the pulsed inductor electronics then this may be comparable to much of the other research being done in such areas as TPUs, MEGs, Thane Heins regenerative acceleration, Stifler, etc.

And let's face it, if any one of these devices that appears to produce a COP of greater than unity is applied to an electrolyser, then the gas output would also appear to be greater than Faraday predicts.

To boot, I'm unconvinced by much of the wild speculation of the science occurring within these over-Faraday electrolysers, by so-called experts in the field (mentioning no names).

Anyway, the Waterforall lot have decided I don't really fit in with their gang, so have banned me already... must have been something I said! :)
   
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Farrah Day, I think you are correct .. all roads will meet if you go far enough..

All these devices will boil down to one principal eventually.
   

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Farrah Day,

I agree, there will be a fundamental mechanism discovered one day I think. Interestingly, but perhaps not surprisingly, many methods showing promise and that happen to be abundant in the scene (as you have pointed out), utilize pulsed energy and resonance.

We'll crack this sucker yet! ;)

.99
   
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EM, what have you actually gleaned, if anything, from Bob Boyce's first hand shared information?

Now try not to take this the wrong way, and this is probably not going to make me too popular, but I have real lack of confidence in Boyce.

Boyce and myself go back a good few years now and I've yet to find anyone that has successfully replicated his electrolyser systems or come close to achieving the over-Faraday results he claims he was getting.  Questions I asked years ago we're never answered satisfactorily and he always tended to throw a paddy and disappear for a while if you pursued answers to the wrong questions - even though he intimated that he knew it all.

To me he's like a living version of Meyer.  Nothing substantiated, no real science detailed, no live demonstrations or corroborated results, but always a lot of publicity and drama.

Lets just consider a few things. This guy claims to have had a car running just by hydroxy on demand, but now only plays about with boosters, that way he's not pestered by the MIB. He claims to have had his workshop broke into and his WFC equipment stolen more than once. He claims to have been struck by lightning, not once but twice... and of course survived both times. He claimed he had cancer in, I believe 2004 and gave many people the impression he wouldn't be around much longer. Now he tells us that he's been chipped... not once but twice, and has cancer again! It reads like an X-file!

Also, there always seems to be a sympathy angle to his posts, with someone conveniently directing you to his website where you can make donations to his work.  Recently someone was implying that it would nice if people donated to his wife's funeral... what!!  To my mind it seems rather odd that someone would want to tell everyone (basically strangers) on these forums about the ins and outs of their private life - it's just not the done thing. Does anyone know if he actually did lose his wife? Was he even married? I certainly haven't a clue about his personal life other than what he's posted or made public.

I'm really not out to kick anyone when there down, but does anyone really know the truths here... does anyone actually know this guy in person or are we all just being suckered?

Verichip must love him. Next we'll be hearing about them sueing him for defamation of their name, and someone will be pointing us to Boyce's website so that we can make donnations for his legal aid (he accepts Paypal by the way).

Anyone want to bet that Boyce's terminal cancer is not quite so terminal as he makes out?

I'm not intentionally being vindictive here, and of course I could be completely out of line, but something is seriously wrong with the picture. Something is not at all right. I don't know... call it female intuition, but Boyce sets all my alarm bells ringing, as much now as he always has. And I'm sorry, I really don't mean to offend anyone, but personally I don't trust him one iota.
   
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Here's some additional reading.

It seems I failed to mention that Boyce was also dying a couple of years ago from 'something' released from a nearby military base in the aftermath of hurricane Andrew.

Apparently all but one of the people with him at the time died of congestive heart failure.  Luckily six months worth of superantibiotics sorted him out. Anyway's I don't see Boyce's current brand of terminal cancer killing him as he's taking a special healing potion for it, and let's face it this guy is indestructable!

Oh, and I think we can throw in another lightning strike too. Talk about unlucky, eh!

Can I just add that all this information seems to come by way of PESwiki. The only other websites you'll find this stuff on are all some kind of 'Pyramid Power', Aliens Walk Among Us' or 'God Loves You', sites, mostly just relaying the PESwiki articles.

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Bob Boyce is a famous inventor in the world of ultra-efficient electrolysis and hydroxy research. The chip found in his shoulder at the point of tumor formation turns out to be manufactured by VeriChip.



On Nov. 12, we reported that a South African experimenter has modified an electrolysis circuit developed by Bob Boyce so that now it recharges his daughter's electric vehicle riding toy. We said that what makes this remarkable is that the energy is not drawn from the wall but from the environment somehow; and that he's done this around 35 times now and knows of three replications of the effect by others. We created a feature page and a discussion list to facilitate additional replications and development of the technology.

We also reported in the same story that we had become aware the day before that Bob Boyce, of North Carolina, has "terminal" cancer, and that his days are numbered if some kind of remedy isn't found.

On Nov. 12, Bob wrote:

The cancer that I have developed was not directly due to my research, as many have suggested. Having said that, it did occur under suspicious circumstances. When I was in Florida earlier this year, I noticed a small, hard lump had appeared under the skin of my right shoulder. I wondered where it came from, of course, but did not give it much thought. Over time, the skin over and around the lump turned reddish and became sore.

A few months ago, while working with an EMF meter on the bench in my lab, I noticed that I was picking up a weak signal. Nothing else was running at the time, so I tried locating the source, and traced it to the lump in my shoulder! I made arrangements with my doctor to have it removed, and he suspected a common skin cancer.

The object itself was tiny, about the size of a dry grain of rice, surrounded by a white fibrous shell. It had numerous nerves attached to it.

Once it had been removed, it ceased sending out a signal, as verified by my portable EMF detector.

I wanted to keep it and analyze it myself, but my doctor convinced me to let him send it off to the lab. My doctor sent it and the surrounding tissue off for pathology. Not surprisingly, there was absolutely no mention of the object itself in the pathology report.

The surrounding tissue turned out to be this rare form of cancer that has been linked to excessive x-ray exposure in x-ray technicians. The surgery had disturbed the cancer and sent cancer cells throughout my blood stream. The margins were not clear, indicating that the cancer was still present at the incision site, as well as clear indications now that the cancer has spread. I can't blame the doctor really, as at the time we did not know that it was not a simple skin cancer.

What I really want to know is, what was this object, and how in the heck did it get imbedded in the skin of my shoulder without me knowing about it?

Many of you have sent us emails and made phone calls suggesting various possible cures. We are hopeful that with the information that has come Bob's way that he will be able to secure a complete cure from his cancer.

Meanwhile, on Thanksgiving evening Bob called and left a voice message in which he informed me that it turns out that the chip that was implanted in his shoulder was made by VeriChip, a company that makes implantable microchips.

According to the VeriChip VeriMed page:

About the size of a grain of rice, the microchip is inserted just under the skin and contains only a unique, 16-digit identifier. The microchip itself does not contain any other data other than this unique electronic ID, nor does it contain any Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capabilities. And unlike conventional forms of identification, the Health Link cannot be lost, stolen, misplaced, or counterfeited. It is safe, secure, reversible, and always with you.


Close-up of a VeriChip implant device, the size of a small grain of rice.

Another page on their site describes the RFID technology, which is an essential component of their chips, and the proximity required for reading different kinds of chips, such as those used in automated toll collection.

In his message to me, Bob referred me to a website, AntiChips.com, which documents the link between embedded RFID microchips and tumor formation. It cites a paper, Microchip-Induced Tumors in Laboratory Rodents and Dogs: A Review of the Literature 1990–2006, and summarizes it as follows:

CASPIAN's new report ... is a definitive review of research showing a causal link between implanted radio-frequency (RFID) microchip transponders and cancer in laboratory rodents and dogs. It was written in part to correct industry misstatements and misinformation circulating about the studies.

The report evaluates eleven articles previously published in toxicology and pathology journals. In six of the articles, between 0.8% and 10.2% of laboratory mice and rats developed malignant tumors around or adjacent to the microchips. Two additional articles reported microchip-related cancer in dogs.

In almost all cases, the malignant tumors, typically sarcomas, arose at the site of the implants and grew to surround and fully encase the devices. These fast-growing, malignant tumors often led to the death of the afflicted animals. In many cases, the tumors metastasized or spread to other parts of the animals. The implants were unequivocally identified as the cause of the cancers.

This is one story you will want to pass on to your networks to get the word out about the kinds of nefarious deeds going on to suppress new energy technology that could truly empower people to break free of the powers that be.

I've got a few questions for Bob the next time I talk to him.

How did you find out the chip was made by VeriChip?
Is your source willing to go on record?
Are you planning legal action?
Is it okay for Watkykjy1 to disclose to the B-Hex group the full details of how he built his charging device?
I'll probably append his responses here.

I also tried to contact VeriChip for a comment, but being a holiday weekend, I haven't heard back yet.

Meanwhile, here is an update that I reported to the B-Hex group on Nov. 19. Also, I should mention that there are now allegedly four people who have replicated the battery charging effect (being able to charge the same battery that is powering the Boyce circuit).

[Additional News on B-Hex Project]

Watkykjy1 has been extremely busy with his job, putting in 16-hour days, but he did subscribe yesterday to this list in digest version.

I had a good chat with Bob the other day. I wish I had a tape recorder going (if he would have let me; he's a bit squeamish about things like that), because he said so many things that would be crucial to understanding this project.

My personal knowledge on this B-hex topic is quite limited, so I'm afraid I would make things more confusing than not if I tried to report what he said, but I will venture a few things, with the caveat that I may be misunderstand things or mis-conveying them, unintentionally. I was very impressed with Bob's knowledge and talent, and was glad that this replication forum exists to help facilitate the propagation of this amazing technology.

First, I should mention that I was able to put Bob in touch with a healer friend of mine who is confident he could help Bob. The two of them seem to have a lot in common, including their work with breakthrough quantum physics.

Bob told me he's been doing battery charging with the Hex controller for quite a long time. They first achieved a closed loop system several months ago. It's usually "dangerous to power output with the input", so they at first had one set of batteries for input, and another for output. He talked about charging a 48-V DC battery bank being charged by a single battery being powered off a single solar panel. It would draw 100 mA at 12 volts to keep the 48-V battery bank charged.

He did this for eight months straight, but then a lightning strike took it out, and he's not restored the system yet.

He's presently on Revision 3 of the Hex controller.

The kind of capacitors he uses are not "typical," as the typical capacitors could not handle what is going on, but tend to overheat.

The key is in how pulses are applied to the coils. This isn't just another TWM(?). "The devil is in the details -- how the signals are processed before taking them to the coil."

The way the board is laid out enhances the function.

"What we're doing is pulses in 10-100 kHz; not ultrasonic. Have different characteristics, like microwave" (something like that)

Most people who try to build a Tesla coil miss the boat and don't build it right.

He's presently on a business trip with an entity interested in his hydroxy system for use in their fleets. It's a confidential situation that I can't say more about, except that it is very impressive. They're running the system on dynoes that simulate a variety of environments as part of a CARB / EPA testing regimen.

"Hydroxy gas isn't really Brown's gas but Rhodes gas. His is electrolysis. Mine makes a different catalytic process using diff voltages ... low ..."

"I crack water catalytically. Normal hydroxy is 70% ortho to 30% para hydrogen, but I can get up to 100% ortho. The equilibrium state of hydroxy gas is 75% ortho and 25% para, so normal hydroxy starts out at 70:30 but gradually changes to 75:25, whereas mine goes from near 99:1 rapidly down to 75:25, so it is important to use it right away. The ortho is where the 'magic' is."

"Brown's gas can be pressurized up to 50 psi. My gas explodes if pressurized to 12 psi. I have to have a shut-off switch if it goes above 3 psi." (other components increase the pressure from there).

"So there is a wide gamut of hydroxy quality."

Bob has his own NMR machine (8-channel [essentially 16]) that he uses to check the ortho:para ratio. NMR machines are very expensive. There is a cheaper, less accurate way to measure the ortho:para ratio. (??-->) Put chromio oxide in solution, settle in aquarium size, bubble gas through, temperature sensor, sample gas, bubble. Math: 670 Joules/gram ortho to para. (<--??)


In a conversation with the healer friend of mine, regarding the evidence that Bob's cancer was planted, my friend said, "You're very close to doing something to liberate the planet, and they don't want it liberated." He recommended the blood root formula with zinc oxide and distilled water, which looks like black tarry stuff and hurts a lot as it pulls the tumor out from the point of origin. He said that the biopsy is what caused the tumor to spread to the blood via the lymphatic system, and he recommended against any further surgeries.

[Bob said] the technology has the ability to modify gravity, magnetism, and disrupt matter, similar to the Hutchison effect.

When Bob first contacted me a few years ago, one of the reasons he had me post his information at FreeEnergyNews.com was that he was dying. It was actually Tom Bearden who suggested that he get tested for Gulf War Syndrome. Bob apparently picked it up in the aftermath of Hurricane Andrew -- stuff from a nearby military base that was released into the environment that he picked up. He had to take superantibiotics for six months.

All but one of the people that were with him when exposed died of congestive heart failure. He also had a close family member die who refused to be tested for Gulf War Syndrome and receive the treatment.

Sterling

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Note: The doctor who removed the the tumor retained the chip that was found; so the "chain of custory" is with the doctor, increasing the credibility of this account. I haven't gotten the particulars from Bob yet as to who discovered that the chip was made by VeriChip, but I do know that the chain of custody is with an established entity, under the direction of the doctor who removed the tumor.

Update
On November 30, 2009 12:35 AM Mountain, Bro Andrew wrote:

I just spoke with Bob for about 1-1/2 hours. He was in pain. He said he as a lump near his ankle that hurts like an ice pick is stabbing him. He says it was the size of a peanut, now it is size of a golf ball.

[...] Please have everyone pray for Bob. He sounds like he wants to die.

I told him, we still need you around, don't go yet. Have everyone that you know send him positive healing vibes. He is using a Beck's Zapper, he says that helps. [...] God can easily heal him. Let's all agree that Bob will live. He needs to finish the hex controller, but he says his laptop with all that info, took a dump. He now has a small computer from Walmart to do skype and e-mail.

I always learn something, every time I talk with him, he is a great guy and shares his findings as I share mine.
   
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EM, firstly I glad you took my last posts in the context they were meant. That is simply as a caution.

Yep, I've been following various WFC devices over the years, but now feel that the only way over-Faraday results are to be obtained, is in fact not by the violation of any Faraday Laws, but more with the percieved violation of the laws of thermodynamics.  I.e, I believe the way forward is radiant energy devices.

I've always been heathily sceptical, and like most people some things sit better with me than others.

I'm a little perplexed by the current Boyce drama, as he claims that the secrets to his toroid winding comes under a Non-Disclosure Act! With whom? And how can he possibly justify having a website whereby people are encouraged to donate money for funding his work to free the world of the oil company monopoly, if certain aspects of his work or devices fall under a NDA?

I guess I'm probably more cautious and more sceptical than most, but the Boyce saga has been going on for many years now and I don't see the world any nearer to breaking the grip the oil companies have on us. Certainly not through anything Boyce has ever done.

Personally, I think there are much better, much more detailed and promising OU devices to be researching that can then later be simply used as a power supply to electrolysers.

Farrah
   
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Well, hello Farrah! It's been awhile since we last had a chat. I am quite surprised to see you pondering the Boyce stories, have you abandoned your Stan Meyer research? In my opinion, I have to agree with your skepticism here and assume this is all quite an unwinding story. Verichips, cancer, hex controller battery charging, when will it end? I hear Bob is one heck of a nice guy though...

Well Farrah, I hope to chat with you a bit more on a different topic, but, until then, it is time to say "Ta ta"! If you remember a while ago on a different forum, you asked about chemical or atomic equations which got me thinking. I have to thank you for that inquiry and would like to read more of your opinion some other time.

Good day!
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Hi Farraday,
If its any consolidation to the limited interests shown on this site Im arranging for a unit to be professionally made which will require 200+ amps to run near to maximum. The unit is to produce gas measured firstly by brute force method and then by resonance adding stored magnetic impulse discharges via a pancake coil. Theres other options to try also and any suggestions are welcome. The investor welds things and wants something new for his own purposes. Soon the chamber will be ready then the fun begins. Electrolyte has not been selected yet as  theres a safety aspect for consideration, however efficiency IS paramount.
Details will be given if you are interested.
Steve.
   
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