@WaveWatcher
Thanks for your comments, which are insightful and useful.
I will disagree with anyone saying they only transmit one or the other. Tesla may have considered Hertzian waves to be worthless and not considered their effects on his experiments. As far as I'm concerned you can't transmit one without the other.
I don't know the answer to this ("Can we generate scalar waves or tranverse waves without generating the other?"), but it's a very important question. A kit seller on Ebay says his kit generates both scalar and transverse waves, but claims you can tune towards one or the other. From Meyl's schematics, it would seem he generates RF from the oscillator, as well as scalar. Naudin claims you can generate scalar waves with a Caudeceus coil, but these are probably (if they work) also coupled with bursts of RF.
Naudin: The soliton pulse generator experiment
http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htmNaudin: Test of the EM Soliton pulses through an EM shield
http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/spg_shield.htm The only thing you can do is insert the transmitter into properly designed Faraday cage to eliminate the transverse effects or design to enhance what you are looking for.
Agreed.
You don't need to invest in the kits if:
1. you don't think there is difference in operation between a solenoid wound and single layer planar coil.
Great point. Is there a difference?
CON: The Tesla Scalar wave builder on Ebay has recently switched from pancake to cylindrical coils. Apparently he can still generate scalar waves.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Tesla-Scalar-Wave-Demo-Coil-Pair-Konstantin-Meyl-like-/140510792593#payIdCON: Naudin receives scopable hash on a standard coil through a Faraday cage.
PRO: Photographs of Tesla in his office , post Colorado Springs, show him doing wireless displays in front of a large pancake coil.
PRO: Tesla single-wire power transmission patents, which utilize bifilar pancake coils to transmit energy down a single wire. (Tesla Patent 593139)
You don't need to invest in the kits if:
3. you don't see a difference between electromagnetic and magnetic resonance
Agreed.. this is one area where I might disagree with Meyl. Unless the magnetic and electric scalar components are separable during experiment, we should consider Tesla scalar waves to have both longitudinal components together. Let me quote Meyl in his own words:
"Let us record: For the wave propagation there thus are three possible and stable states (fig.
21.12): the transverse electromagnetic wave according to Heinrich Hertz (fig. 1), the
longitudinal electric wave according to Nikola Tesla (fig. 2), and a longitudinal magnetic
wave (fig. 3), which isn't connected yet with a name of a discoverer. The last one is a pure
product of my theoretical derivation. The question is asked, which practical meaning the
magnetic wave could have."
-Konstantin Meyl
Scalar Waves: Tesla Physics for Engineers, "Derivation of the Scalar Wave" pp471
So Meyl has predicted the magnetic scalar waves' existence theoretically -- but says that it has a basis in reality. Meyl states that the three waves a separable and distinct. He says Tesla is concerned primarily with the longitudinal / scalar
electric wave. He says that biological cell communication can occur via
magnetic scalar waves , filtered via cell-level hyperboloid structures.
Basically, for now, I think we consider the magnetic and electric components of the scalar wave simultaneous with a possible phase relationship, and possibly separable. This is in need of experiments.
4. You don't need to invest in the kits if:
you think resonance is only that point of frequency where an LCR circuit naturally oscillates when external energy is supplied.
Well, I think this is true for transverse waves, but we probably need to derive the properties of scalar waves from scratch, given that they have a variable propagation speed.
I'm not saying I believe everything Meyl says. I'm still the same way. It isn't a fact until it works on my bench.
Me neither. But he is one of the few physicists with both a theory AND a working bench device. But I agree, there's parts of his theory I disagree with. Theories are only good as insofar as they can make usable predictions.
Meyl on Scalar Waves:"The course of the field lines clarifies the difference. For the scalar wave all field lines
going away from the transmitter run together again. As long as no scattering field occurs,
there also won't be any transmission losses. It is an energy wave, for which the full
broadcasting power is transmitted wirelessly and which arrives at the receiver, by that
focussing the field lines again."
"For a [transverse wave] mobile with 3 Watts of broadcasting power only a few microwatt arrive at the
ground station. If I would have a scalar wave mobile, which functions with resonance,
then a broadcasting power of some microwatt will be completely sufficient, to carry out a
telephone call right through the earth. This minimum broadcasting power suffices, because
everything, what is being transmitted, arrives at the receiver - crucial is that the conditions
of resonance are fulfilled. That means, both must have the same frequency and the
opposite phase. In addition the modulation has to fit, so that on the one hand not several
participants in the conversation are getting in each other's way. For a purely carrier wave
transmission on the other hand there would be the risk of natural fields being collected
also and the power at the receiver taking inadmissibly high values. This is prevented
effectively by a correspondingly complex modulation.Nature solves the problem in
exactly this manner."
-Konstantin Meyl
Scalar Waves: Tesla Physics for Engineers, "Properties of Scalar Waves" pp485
"Scalar waves are still unexplored area, scientific new ground as it were. Individual
research scientists already have selectively ventured forward in this area and have
described properties of the scalar wave investigated by them in their special research area
mostly in measurement technical manner. But as a rule they lack the physical relation, as it
is derived in this book for the first time. If we don't proceed from individual
measurements, but from the wave equation and the mathematical physical derivation of
scalar waves, then we have the great chance to understand as something belonging
together on the one hand noise, photons, neutrinos and lots of other known phenomena as
well as on the other hand still unknown phenomena, which are called parascientific.
We should remember that we without theory of Maxwell and the representation in a
frequency band today still wouldn't know that the radio waves (LW, MW, KW, UHF), the
microwaves ( W), the infrared thermal radiation (IR), the light and the X-rays concern
just the same phenomenon"
-Konstantin Meyl
Scalar Waves: Tesla Physics for Engineers, "Properties of Scalar Waves" pp487
I might add, there is a section titled
23.4 Prediction of earthquakes with the help of scalar waves
Anyways, the reason we might want to consider magnetic and electric scalar waves separate might help us in design of phenomenon such as the TPU.
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