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Wesley news #2 Wesley succesfully performs his TK test in a remote location
Reiyuki:
--- Quote from: TinselKoala on 2018-07-13, 22:28:36 ---Those videos of that spinning thing are so obviously faked that I feel sorry for Wesley. I think he's losing his mind.
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Starting an argument with a personal attack is not a good strategy. :-\
--- Quote ---The first one was debunked long ago, where the device falls to the floor when the thread suspending it breaks.
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More than likely. Watch the human-sized shadow in the 1st video next to the disc. The shadow moves in-line with the craft movement.
--- Quote --- The second video is even more laughable, where the fellow holds the "high voltage" wires in his hands, and the height of the device stays constant while the load from the weight of the wires varies as he holds them (and doesn't get shocked).
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Anyone who's played with high voltage knows there's nothing fancy about that. Even thin-shielded cables are enough to avoid shocks against >30kv. (though they will buzz and emit corona)
--- Quote ---And in strong winds, even! Any drone pilot will tell you what kind of sophisticated autopilot or fancy control manipulation is needed to keep a flying thing hovering in one spot at constant altitude in strong winds.
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Decent argument O0. Though someone would probably counter that the device acts as its own inertia field and counters thrust and rotation on all axes.
--- Quote ---The "stick trick" where he pretends to show that it isn't suspended from above is an old stage magician's trick; from the audience's perspective you can't tell that the stick actually never crosses the suspending fishing line hanging from the tree limb up above.
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Good catch. O0
--- Quote ---And the connection to the battery: sure, just wrap a bit of wire a few times around a post, loosely enough that you can just dislodge it with your fingers, without making any spark..... LOL!
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Disconnecting a load from a battery doesn't always make sparks. Meh.
--- Quote ---You can talk about Grebennikov all you like but this device has nothing to do with anything attributed to Greb. The Greb flying platform reportedly used louvers, like venetian blinds or like the Cavorite system, nothing rotating, and no magnets or even any power supply, it was just working by the chitin's electrostatic properties. This thing uses counterrotating disks bearing magnets (allegedly) and power supplies. And of course... the thread or fishing line.
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Good to know. ;D
Better analysis would leave out the emotion and just start with listening to the audio at the point where the craft starts falling, at 10:56 in Wesley's video (attached). Sounds like wire stretching followed by a tree-branch snap.
(rope stretching sound effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH3LsshSAG8 )
Then they'd point out the odd ratio of stability (that the vehicle is completely stable in rotation and horizontally, but drifts up-and-down vertically (in-sync with the trees blowing nearby in the wind) C.C
I still like the videos. They inspire the imagination in a way that OU does not. ;D ;D ;D
Reiyuki:
I did like Alexey's method starting with microscopic analysis of animal structures and systems in nature before progressing to more practical experiments.
But starting from hard-science rather than of nature, the highest likelihood of success is likely to be found in metamaterials that have an intermix of diamagnetic, paramagnetic, ferromagnetic, and/or piezoelectric properties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiferroics
This is partly due to the tenancy that most superconductors are composed of mixtures of diamagnetic and magnetic materials. Since superconductivity is a situation where currents are locked into a continuous loop unable to escape, it acts as a 'virtual inertia'; and indeed many electrical engineering lessons describe currents inside an inductor this way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-temperature_superconductivity
If we couple this with HV impulses, we may indeed be able to create situations where the superconductor creates Lorentz deflection against the charged particles to force them into stable orbits around the superconductor, allowing us to pump energy into a region of space faster than it can be dissipated. In effect, we'd end up with an artificial 'density' (due to the inertia of the charged particles being injected into the system).
Of course, the closest we can get to superconductors on the bench of course are regular LC tank circuits. C.C B fields in opposition of course, so we don't waste energy coupling magnetically to free space.
Anyway, that's my ramblings. Fun stuff to ponder ;)
Chet K:
is this the goods ?
or ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXVVD8IiQc&feature=youtu.be
Chet K:
just making a benchmark for an experiment Wesley proposed last week at Stefan's forum [until I can ask him where he wants this Data presented]
I suggest simple experiment :
1.take two grounds ( at best at the distance) ( ground wires must be thick from 0 to 3 gauge)
a.deliver to one ground impulse ( whatever voltage, whatever shape)
b.measure if that impulse is sensed by second ground by means of close circuit.
that means that your V meter is connected to both of the grounds.
c.if you do not sense the impulse than increase the voltage and do it again.
d.please look if Voltage or VxA of impulse at second ground is stronger in given time frame.( Look at all DC and AC components.
Oscilloscope and Spectrum analyzer gives you information about frequency distribution, harmonics and its amplitude !!!, bandwidth and distortion)
Look also at time delay and phase for AC or AC component of DC.
e. Employ spark Gap ( spark Gap has NEGATIVE RESISTANCE) and HV and repeat measurement again.
Note :If AC train of impulses is tested than generator can be:
e' - floating ( not connected to the ground by insulation transformer and impulse is delivered by one wire only) or ( powered from batteries) ( that includes manually triggered single impulses as well)
e'' - connected to the electrical ground from electrical outlet and powered by batteries
e'''- connected to/ and powered from electrical outlet
f. create another loop (-separate DC loop) using ground and check if AC loop is interfering with DC loop.
Note: make sure that these two separate AC and DC loops are equal in Voltage .
g. you may decide now to place in AC circuit tunable LC Network after you have done all points
from above. :)
I know what I'm talking about.
The choice is yours.
for lazy folks look from here https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=474
for not so much lazy folks look from here https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=443
h. if you see difference of potentials between any of two grounds such as:
h' -first ground wire and cold water pipe
h'' -first ground wire and Russian type of heating system ( cast iron radiators)
h''' - first ground wire and 0 from electrical outlets or combination of it
than do not think for the moment why you have it, but apply primary of Tesla coil into it ( using LC tunable ) and measure the voltage between two ends of secondary using HV probe.
In my link from above for lazy and not lazy folks I have shown a Transformer with the air gap near vicinity of Tesla coil ( that is our regular HV from CRT ) ( You may play with one winding only - the primary.) ( however if you intend to use secondary to couple to LC network than , use as low winds winding section of primary as possible , to get the highest voltage at secondary)
Air gap acts as temporary energy storage. you can also have LC network connected to it
Note:
in general it is not important how device looks like.
- Matching of impedance gives you energy transfer
- matching of resonance (even without impedance matching is like matching impedance, that) means you have energy transfer :
In resonance all reactances are canceled leaving only pure resistive component of impedance (resistance) (as if it was DC where there is none of reactive components and there is no impedance )that is why it is important to have thick ground wire and if possible thick primary of Tesla Coil.
"thick" means surface of the wire....( so copper tubing is very much OK) due to Skin Current for AC.
i. It was noticed that look with earth connection as earth wire was few times more battery saving than the same loop that used two aerial wires
Please press https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=617, and immediately stop video. On the left hand side page on the top read from words :
Quote
some early experimenters...
it says about telluric generators , telluric current and battery life when ground is imposed .
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Think like you are in 1900 ( just for the moment)
Point #2 serves as an explanation of ground behavior :
* do not omit "star"
2. Old telegraph from 1834 to 1963 was working based on DC interrupted that means leading edge and falling edge is your AC component of
DC from 24 to 36V battery ( original Voltage of US telegraph company spec.)
a. it means that few thousands miles long line with return using earth ground was powered by this battery( in some places it was direct one loop in other places it was series of loops separated and forming another loop.)
b. AC and DC coexists in the ground separate loops not being able to see each other. ( *unless - conditions allows for such interaction)
c. Telluric Current was interacting with all of the loops despite the fact if it was chain of isolated telegraph loops or just one. ( but not causing much of the problems or none or the problems - * applies)
d. it was noticed that using earth as e return wire ( means of connection) saves battery life anywhere from 50% to hundreds of %
Notice : there is no such thing as more that 100% of energy saving that is why some scientist of that time (1900) where trying to explain earth as energy reservoir
e. https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=746 VOID schematic has a lot of sense( Thank you Void)
Summary:
-You looking for FE ( Energy for Free) my friends
American telegraph was making plenty of money , not only because of its business, but because of utilizing natural phenomena and saving on cost.
-You want to find what Tariel was/wasn't about do this simple test.
Wesley
Chet K:
METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR EXTRACTING AND CONVEYING ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM THE EARTH IONOSPHERE CAVITY
US20150102676 Patent.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c2/73/cd/ed546d4872c866/US20150102676A1.pdf
related ?[his name iis on the above patent
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.engineering.electrical/iGvb86LXMFA
from Wesley thread here
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/750/
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