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itzon	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #475 on: 2023-04-01, 16:29:24 »
Newbie Posts: 19	Quote from: Centraflow on 2023-04-01, 13:06:18 Bump Does your book have a title?

Centraflow	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #476 on: 2023-04-01, 17:42:58 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2838	Quote from: itzon on 2023-04-01, 16:29:24 Does your book have a title? Forget the book, publication was blocked. I have bumped this thread because of the information that was posted by ION, it had been lost in the depths of the forum and I want to post some things in the near future. Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Sm0ky2	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #477 on: 2023-04-01, 19:26:01 »
Group: Guest	The devices of Egypt, As well as those of Ed Leedskalnin And Tesla Give light to the magnetic self-induction necessary for this type of device.

Grumpy	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #478 on: 2023-04-03, 15:03:21 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3947 tExB=qr	Quote from: Centraflow on 2023-04-01, 17:42:58 Forget the book, publication was blocked. I have bumped this thread because of the information that was posted by ION, it had been lost in the depths of the forum and I want to post some things in the near future. Regards Mike Why/who blocked the publication of your book? I always thought ION was Spherics. Very similar mannerisms.

Paul-R	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #479 on: 2023-04-03, 16:05:42 »
Hero Member Posts: 1578	Quote from: Grumpy on 2023-04-03, 15:03:21 Why/who blocked the publication of your book? I always thought ION was Spherics. Very similar mannerisms. Why not print up a modest number of books and sell them through this and similar sites and using social media? I have heard a good report from these people: https://www.ylolfa.com/en

Sm0ky2	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #480 on: 2023-04-03, 17:12:58 »
Group: Guest	Google books or amazon are both pretty easy to publish through, Can set your own price, everythings done online, don’t even have to talk to them.

Centraflow	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #481 on: 2023-05-03, 18:33:08 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2838	This is going to help the group of people that are trying to build STEAP, my work of investigating and "replicating" the work of Steven Mark and other inventors in the past. Does it open a can of worms!!!!!!!! for sure it will, Maxwell Demon? maybe! STEAP stands for Space Time Energy Absorption Pump as most know, well the question is where does that energy come from? I'm not around much now as I am very busy on the one hand, and the other trying to keep my head down and enjoy my retirement. Regards Mike ------------------------ STEAP files constant voltage and current source.pdf (42.75 kB - downloaded 57 times.) « Last Edit: 2023-05-06, 15:57:40 by Centraflow » --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Centraflow	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #482 on: 2023-05-04, 18:32:27 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2838	I am so surprised that nobody has said anything, I really am!!!! Do you realise that it does not matter what high value the external capacitor is across the A/B plates, APART from the energy stored in A/B, with 4uF the energy is 2 joules, with 20uF it is 10 joules. This energy is put into there when there is a discharge into A plate and the switch is closed so the B plate goes to the ground. The next discharge into A does not have the switch to ground, but there is via bb1 and C2. The question is what happens to that energy on A/B when the C1 capacitor has suddenly become 290pF. Here is the charge for C2, this second discharge is short, controlling the C2 charge, until the first charge cycle starts again. For those with the full correct circuit will now see how this all works. Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

lfarrand	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #483 on: 2023-05-04, 20:05:54 »
Full Member Posts: 242	Thanks Mike. This is truly an outstanding achievement. It will take a little bit of time to process, which I think is what most people with an interest in the STEAP are doing right now.

Aking.21	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #484 on: 2023-05-05, 00:26:37 »
Sr. Member Posts: 371	Quote from: Centraflow on 2023-05-04, 18:32:27 I am so surprised that nobody has said anything, I really am!!!! Do you realise that it does not matter what high value the external capacitor is across the A/B plates, APART from the energy stored in A/B, with 4uF the energy is 2 joules, with 20uF it is 10 joules. This energy is put into there when there is a discharge into A plate and the switch is closed so the B plate goes to the ground. The next discharge into A does not have the switch to ground, but there is via bb1 and C2. The question is what happens to that energy on A/B when the C1 capacitor has suddenly become 290pF. Here is the charge for C2, this second discharge is short, controlling the C2 charge, until the first charge cycle starts again. For those with the full correct circuit will now see how this all works. Regards Mike For my part, I was hoping for more details as I came to the party rather late, and I guess I am still mad at Kapanadze - so it's a distraction, personally. I am trying to process any similarities between the Kapanadze patents and your achievements. Also when I look at Mark's original device, the coils seem rather small. ie just a few turns. I am still trying to process the process. So silence is just a lack of sufficient knowledge on my part and I suspect many others. I am hoping for more clarity. --------------------------- Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

3D Magnetics	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #485 on: 2023-05-05, 02:47:31 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Sr. Member Posts: 328	I got stuck with the c1 plate shape? . Perhaps some arrows ? A 3 plate capacitor and charge switched b4 the charge/dischare process can complete . This would mean its a trick of switching rather than tapping a medium . Sorry If i sound confused Covid demon is here . Please keep explaining and more drawings as its very hard to pass this understanding on once you have it . Bear with us as you can . and Thank you .

Aking.21	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #486 on: 2023-05-05, 15:17:19 »
Sr. Member Posts: 371	Centraflow: I would like to suggest a Zoom conference with all who are trying to replicate and those who may want to start a replication. Zoom enables replicators to show their attempts on camera and also is a way to interact and clear up anything not clear. I have a Zoom account and can organize this. It is very easy once you get into it. If you wish to discuss this further please pm me. Kind regards, H. --------------------------- Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

forest	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #487 on: 2023-05-05, 15:37:29 »
Sr. Member Posts: 462	What if all is connected and TPU is working on the same principle as Tariel Kapanadze devices? It's so simple you would laugh because it's only the way coils interract with themselves. The method of run the process on is irrevelant, it maybe be even capacitor discharge throught tiny spark gap.

Centraflow	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #488 on: 2023-05-05, 19:19:14 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2838	Quote from: forest on 2023-05-05, 15:37:29 What if all is connected and TPU is working on the same principle as Tariel Kapanadze devices? It's so simple you would laugh because it's only the way coils interract with themselves. The method of run the process on is irrevelant, it maybe be even capacitor discharge throught tiny spark gap. The only coil interreaction is with the capacitance between coils and NOT inductance. The coils form LC delay lines, the inductance difference of one set with the other is minute. The only real inductance is in the CMC which is used as a charge choke and separation from the input voltage, it is like a DC-DC converter on steroids but the real trick to make it work is in the C1 capacitance set and the controlled switching of all the mosfets. The STEAP TPU is highly capacitive and does not work like a transformer. Maybe other systems work in a similar way, if they work! Winding the unit is paramount to a working system, it can be made any size as long as the ratios are the same. Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Allcanadian	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #489 on: 2023-05-05, 22:19:03 »
Hero Member Posts: 2633	3Dmagnetics Quote I got stuck with the c1 plate shape? . Perhaps some arrows ? A 3 plate capacitor and charge switched b4 the charge/dischare process can complete . This would mean its a trick of switching rather than tapping a medium . Indeed, it's a common perceptual problem. Imagine our capacitor plate as large as a city block. We both live on the same block two houses apart and we both have very large pancake coils of wire set up in our back yard. When the charge on the whole capacitor plate changes my coils extract some energy from the field change. However my coils cannot change without effecting your coils because were on the same block on the same plate. Not only do my coils effect the charge density on the plate but what I'm doing in my back yard does as well which effects you and your coils. This is relates to infinite element analysis where we do not lump together or average everything. We recognize all the individual parts which make up the whole and how they can have an effect on each other. As such I tend not to only see a simple "capacitor plate" but also the countless parts which make up said plate and there individual charges. As a computer nerd/programmer I equate charge density to resolution. Remember how terrible the resolution of the first video games was like the first Atari?. I was programming games similar to pac man on a commodore 64/apple 2E back in the 80's dreaming of the high resolution near photo realistic games I knew as a fact were coming today, I could see the evolution. Energy technology follows a similar trend and we need to look beyond the low resolution object based perspective many still hold. So while many are still stuck on pac man mode I enjoy fortnite and BF2042 even though I'm almost 60. Ergo... never grow old in spirit. In effect we could think of it this way, from space any given city looks static and devoid of motion or energy. However if your down town in that city it is vibrant buzzing with energy and everything is in motion. Now imagine the city is a capacitor plate and the people are charges. The reality does not change nor the energy state present but our perspective does. It's not that difficult, all the extra energy comes from all the extra stuff already in motion on a deeper level most chose to ignore... AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Centraflow	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #490 on: 2023-05-06, 15:55:15 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2838	In post 481 there is a mistake in the drawing at the end of the document, I have also highlighted the second ground. Regards Mike ------------------------ STEAP files constant voltage and current source.pdf (42.75 kB - downloaded 90 times.) --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Aking.21	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #491 on: 2023-05-11, 03:32:44 »
Sr. Member Posts: 371	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo 6minutes and 53 seconds in. Mind blowing insight into Steven Mark's device --------------------------- Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

Centraflow	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #492 on: 2023-05-11, 08:19:54 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2838	Quote from: Aking.21 on 2023-05-11, 03:32:44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo 6minutes and 53 seconds in. Mind blowing insight into Steven Mark's device I presume you are looking at the huge current, that is what happens in the tpu, it is a current generator. Voltage generators will never be OU, but infinite current at any positive voltage results in power. I really do not know atm where this energy comes from, that is still very open to debate. Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

chief kolbacict	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #493 on: 2023-05-11, 09:20:55 »
Full Member Posts: 194	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023-05-05, 22:19:03 Remember how terrible the resolution of the first video games was like the first Atari?. I like this. Sometimes I play doom 2, like in the good old days, as if I had become 20 years younger. ------------------------ doom2_cover.jpg (10.09 kB, 120x140 - viewed 325 times.)

Allcanadian	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #494 on: 2023-05-12, 22:51:45 »
Hero Member Posts: 2633	Aking21 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo 6minutes and 53 seconds in. Mind blowing insight into Steven Mark's device Indeed, the images below taken from the video are self-explanatory. AC ------------------------ The TPU: Was It Real ? SM spark.jpg (60.32 kB, 539x332 - viewed 335 times.) The TPU: Was It Real ? SM spark 1.jpg (70.82 kB, 537x344 - viewed 284 times.) --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Aking.21	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #495 on: 2023-05-13, 02:45:39 »
Sr. Member Posts: 371	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023-05-12, 22:51:45 Aking21 Indeed, the images below taken from the video are self-explanatory. AC Well, I was hoping for more scientific responses. There are a couple of giveaways. 1 We are witnessing FLAME PLASMA. PERIOD! This is a huge giveaway. 2 How is this plasma field created? It is certainly similar to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuZTZvBOfBE So a couple of Mark's secrets are now uncovered. 3 The kind of plasma we see is a "flame" type of plasma which is different from an ordinary spark gap. 4 Masses of free electrons are created, and they are certainly Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, Neon, and Hydrogen electrons, because they are the major components of air. These additional free electrons will magnetize neighboring electrons which are free to enter and energize the TPU. 5 We see no spark gap or plasma flame in the TPU, however, the electrical construction of such a phenomenon is an integral part of the TPU. We now know this 100%. So we now know a major component of the circuit. 6 That disclosure is a huge blunder by the demonstrators and must have made Steven Mark cringe in horror. 7 I suggest we scour the internet to find a similar circuit. The TPU needs both electrodes (positive and negative) to be combined to create the flame plasma. Other videos do not need this double electrode, so the Marks circuit is slightly different. 8 Similar to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82gd7genfUE 2min 50 seconds in. . --------------------------- Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

Allcanadian	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #496 on: 2023-05-13, 07:55:54 »
Hero Member Posts: 2633	Aking21 Quote Well, I was hoping for more scientific responses. I wrote a longer response but some thought I may be a little long winded so I kept it short. I like your posts and your like a breath of fresh air in both forums, in my opinion. I have seen these kinds of discharges in countless experiments and the fat arc, fuzzy edges, white color and lack of noise are all indicative of high voltage but more so very high frequency. The Tesla hair pin circuit easily produces such discharges so long as the spark gap is properly quenched and preferably chopped with undersized capacitors. As Tesla said, high inductance low capacitance which produces HV/HF discharges like the ones in the video. The actual mechanism at play is really interesting and as we know single or low frequency HV discharges produce thin, blue, quite noisy streamers like an ignition coil. However as the frequency increases, which is actually a reduction in the time period ie. voltage rise/fall, something peculiar happens. A massive amount of harmonics are produced at frequencies well above the source frequency. In fact, some FE inventors supposedly tuned there devices based on how much RF interference a nearby radio produced, go figure... Now imagine a gap with a discharge having a large time period, long wavelength where the electric field gradient across the gap appears static like DC. For example the wavelength of a 60Hz AC signal is around 5000 km where Tesla was claiming to have produced wavelengths in the centimeter range much smaller and closer to 30,000 MHz with his hair pin circuit. Which is around 9 orders of magnitude difference or like saying a 60Hz wavelength is ten billion times larger than a one centimeter wavelength like Tesla was referring to but really who is counting?. The technology is kind of weird in that way and just when a person thinks they have something figured out someone finds another completely different way of doing things. That's pretty cool. AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Smudge	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #497 on: 2023-05-13, 11:33:51 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 1859	quote author=Aking.21 link=topic=403.msg104722#msg104722 date=1683942339] Well, I was hoping for more scientific responses. [/quote] I think AC's first image is significant. Why is the plasma curved upwards, why isn't the flow in a straight line between the two discharge points? Below is another frame showing that upwards curvature. Could it be due to the earth's magnetic field? Some quick sums suggest this might be possible. Then if in the TPU there is a plasma type of electron flow along the surface of a conductor that is influenced by the earth's magnetic field could this be where the energy comes from? Smudge ------------------------ The TPU: Was It Real ? Curved plasma.jpg (76.54 kB, 994x743 - viewed 259 times.)

Aking.21	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #498 on: 2023-05-13, 14:04:04 »
Sr. Member Posts: 371	Quote from: Smudge on 2023-05-13, 11:33:51 quote author=Aking.21 link=topic=403.msg104722#msg104722 date=1683942339] Well, I was hoping for more scientific responses. I think AC's first image is significant. Why is the plasma curved upwards, why isn't the flow in a straight line between the two discharge points? Below is another frame showing that upwards curvature. Could it be due to the earth's magnetic field? Some quick sums suggest this might be possible. Then if in the TPU there is a plasma type of electron flow along the surface of a conductor that is influenced by the earth's magnetic field could this be where the energy comes from? Smudge I think the consensus of opinion veers towards high frequency, with modest high voltage. The question is what constitutes high frequency? Maybe from 6 kHz to 100 kHz may be a good starting point. Certainly looking at the plasma lighter circuitry, especially the flamey plasma one is a must. If someone can get hold of a flamey plasma lighter circuit, that would be great. It would also be useful to look at the difference between an ordinary plasma lighter circuit and a flamey plasma lighter circuit. I am aware that Kapanaze also uses "High frequency". Interestingly, the flamey lighter behaves exactly the same as the Mark device, as the plasma lighter flame also shows an upward curvature. This is becoming an "overunity" detective hunt with the suspect in our sights. We are slowly de-mistifying Steven Mark's device. ------------------------ The TPU: Was It Real ? flameycomparisons.jpg (215.47 kB, 1888x740 - viewed 244 times.) --------------------------- Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

Allcanadian	Re: The TPU: Was It Real ? « Reply #499 on: 2023-05-13, 18:19:16 »
Hero Member Posts: 2633	Here is a good example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EztfUOa7jVw High Frequency Tesla Coil HFSSTC Electronic Candle Plasma Flame Electronic candle I really like the plasma channel as well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZuel2iaBk Building a Wireless Power Plasma Candle ( Flame Discharge ft. Teslaundmehr) Most High Frequency Tesla Coils HFSSTC run around 4MHz. Note the 4MHz limitation is only due to the efficiency of the mosfet switching and Nikola Tesla's devices ran at magnitudes higher frequencies and voltages. As we can see the qualities of the discharges in the video's above have a fat, fuzzy appearance and are super quiet very similar to the video of SM's discharges. Tesla described this effect as brush discharges which were extremely sensitive to any external forces like air currents and magnetic fields. Now consider that Tesla claimed to have produced wavelengths in the cm range which works out to 30,000 MHz in excess of 300kV. That's impressive... AC ------------------------ The TPU: Was It Real ? High Frequency Tesla Coil HFSSTC.jpg (17.04 kB, 474x474 - viewed 224 times.) --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

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