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The sphere that sped past the rocket as it blew
up looked to be about 1 meter or so in diameter
travelling at what I estimate to be somewhere
around or between 500 and 1000 kph.

Not a bird and don't think it could be the X-47B either.

Aye, it surely isn't the unmanned X-47B.

But could the event have been executed
to prevent the Chinese acquisition?

For the time being whodunnit would seem to
be who ever benefits from the failure.


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Aye, it surely isn't the unmanned X-47B.

But could the event have been executed
to prevent the Chinese acquisition?

For the time being whodunnit would seem to
be who ever benefits from the failure.

I've been doing some thinking and may have injured my brain. haha But yes that could be the reason.
I am of the opinion that it is possible the satellite was weaponized and that it was destroyed mainly because of that.
Which does not necessarily rule out the dual goal of destroying the weapon and preventing the Chinese acquisition to boot.

I find it kind of par for the course and no surprise that there is no MSM reporting on the fast moving spheres that I am aware of.

It's in plain sight for everyone to see.

I have shown a few people and without exception all have been a bit surprised but kind of happy that at least someone or something
is doing something. All agree it cannot be a bird and also agree that the claimed purpose of the satellite is most likely another lie.

In an honest world there would be at least some kind of announcement from some part of the administration. But there seems to be only silence.

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An Anomaly is probably the best way to describe it for most.

That is exactly the kind of anomalous energetic event most on these forums would be
interested in because of the tech. the energy and the power source ect. required for a
1 meter or so size sphere to perform like that.

I for one do not put it beyond human capabilities. As yet.

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Or maybe the crop circle makers have moved on to more direct methods of influence/warnings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJvVW8s_Oc

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I for one do not put it beyond human capabilities. As yet.

Certain of the Very Deep Underground military research
facilities operate in alliance with beings who have
incredible powers and intelligence.  With their help
some unbelievable technologies have been made
available for military exploitation.  This in preparation
for a coming war.

It is possible that the Russian programs are much more
advanced as indicated by recent developments.  It is
also possible that their alliance is with a much more
peaceful and capable group of beings.  They're showing
much restraint with respect to provocations from the West.

The crop circles video is a good one.  They're not being
created by any human government but by those who
are watching us.  They're attempting to warn us all
of the coming very difficult times.


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Documentary -Planet Oil 1of 3 How Oil Made Us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00a_bO1G1wQ

Documentary series exploring how we've become so reliant on oil in little longer than a human lifetime.

1908 First oil discovered in an Arab nation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zqgxtfr#z9cpsbk

As car ownership grew so did the demand for oil to make the gasoline used as fuel. At this time oil was also discovered in the Middle East.

Soon other reserves were found across the region. Middle Eastern nations lacked the technology and knowledge to extract oil. This led to Western companies securing oil exploration and extraction rights for a relative pittance. Middle Eastern production would develop to provide over 60% of the world’s supply.

Anglo-Persian Oil Company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Persian_Oil_Company

The Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) was a British company founded in 1908 following the discovery of a large oil field in Masjed Soleiman, Iran. It was the first company to extract petroleum from Iran. In 1935 APOC was renamed the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC) and in 1954 it became the British Petroleum Company (BP), one of the antecedents of the modern BP public limited company.

1914-1918 WW1 shows how much the world depended on oil

http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zqgxtfr#zxjvb9q

With the outbreak of a global war, WW1 showed how important oil was to the defence of the nation. It was needed for tanks, trucks and warships.

The run up to WW1 saw a naval arms race as the world’s superpowers updated and expanded their navies. Modern warships were converted from coal-burners to run on oil as it allowed them to move faster and stay at sea for longer. Oil was one of the few resources the British Empire did not produce and access to Middle Eastern oil became a strategic priority. Rival nations also rushed to secure their own sources of oil.

1944 Post-war carve up of Middle East oil

http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zqgxtfr#zpvtpv4

After the end of WW2, post-war leaders knew that oil was an important commodity. The control of oil had been a key factor in who won the war.

Even during WW2, Roosevelt and Churchill had been eyeing the growing oil reserves of the Middle East. On August 8, 1944, the Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement was signed, dividing Middle Eastern oil between the US and the UK. Roosevelt said, "Persian oil... is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours." However this arrangement did not include the people of the countries concerned.

Execution of Operation Ajax

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Execution_of_Operation_Ajax

The official pretext for the start of the coup was Mossadegh's decree to dissolve Parliament, giving himself and his cabinet complete power to rule, while effectively stripping the Shah of his powers.[9][10][11] It resulted in him being accused of giving himself "total and dictatorial powers." The Shah, who had been resisting the CIA's demands for the coup, finally agreed to support it.[9][10][11] Having obtained the Shah's concurrence, the CIA executed the coup.[61] Farmans (royal decrees) dismissing Mosaddegh and appointing General Fazlollah Zahedi (a loyalist who had helped Reza Shah reunify Iran decades earlier)[10] were drawn up by the coup plotters and signed by the Shah. Having signed the decrees and delivered them to General Zahedi, he and Queen Soraya departed for a week-long vacation in northern Iran.[62] On Saturday 15 August, Colonel Nematollah Nassiri,[10] the commander of the Imperial Guard, delivered to Mosaddegh a firman from the Shah dismissing him. Mosaddegh, who had been warned of the plot, probably by the Communist Tudeh Party, rejected the firman and had Nassiri arrested.[63][64][65] Mosaddegh argued at his trial after the coup that under the Iranian constitutional monarchy, the Shah had no constitutional right to issue an order for the elected Prime Minister's dismissal without Parliament's consent. However, the constitution at the time did allow for such an action, which Mossadegh considered unfair.[11][66][67] The action was publicized within Iran by the CIA and in the United States by The New York Times. Mossadegh's supporters (reduced to mainly the Tudeh by this time) took to the streets in violent protests.[9] Following the failed coup attempt, the Shah, accompanied by his second wife Soraya Esfandiary-Bakhtiari and Aboul Fath Atabay[68] fled to Baghdad. Arriving unannounced, the Shah asked for permission for himself and his consort to stay in Baghdad for a few days before continuing on to Europe.[62] After high-level Government consultations, they were escorted to the White House, the Iraqi Government's guest house, before flying to Italy in a plane flown by Mohammad Khatami.[68]

After the first coup attempt failed, General Zahedi, declaring that he was the rightful prime minister of Iran, shuttled between multiple safe houses attempting to avoid arrest. Mossadegh ordered security forces to round up the coup plotters, and dozens were imprisoned. Believing that he had succeeded, and that he was in full control of the government, Mossadegh erred. Assuming that the coup had failed, he asked his supporters to return to their homes and to continue with their lives as normal. The Tudeh party members also returned to their homes, no longer carrying out enforcement duties.[9][10][11] The CIA was ordered to leave Iran, although Kermit Roosevelt was slow to receive the message—allegedly due to MI6 interference—and eagerly continued to foment anti-Mossadegh unrest. The Eisenhower administration considered changing its policy to support Mossadegh, with undersecretary of state Walter Bedell Smith remarking on August 17: "Whatever his faults, Mossadegh had no love for the Russians and timely aid might enable him to keep Communism in check."[69]

However, General Zahedi, who was still on the run, met with the pro-Shah Ayatollah Mohammad Behbahani and other Shah supporters in secret. There (using CIA money deridingly known as "Behbahani dollars"), they quickly created a new plan. Already, much of the country was in shock from the Shah's flight from Iran, fears of communism, and Mossadegh's arrests of opponents. They capitalized on this sentiment in their plans. The Ayatollah Behbahani also used his influence to rally religious demonstrators against Mossadegh.[9][10][11]

On 19 August, hired infiltrators posing as Tudeh party members began to organize a "communist revolution". They came and encouraged real Tudeh members to join in. Soon, the Tudeh members took to the streets attacking virtually any symbols of capitalism, and looting private businesses and destroying shops. Much of southern Tehran's business district, including the bazaars, were vandalized. With sudden mass public revulsion against this act, the next part of Zahedi's plan came into action. From the vandalized bazaars, a second group of paid infiltrators, this time posing as Shah supporters, organized angry crowds of common Iranians who were terrified about a "communist revolution" and sickened by the violence.[9][10][11]

By the middle of the day, large crowds of regular citizens, armed with improvised weapons, took to the streets in mass demonstrations, and beat back the Tudeh party members. Under Zahedi's authority, the army left its barracks and drove off the communist Tudeh and then stormed all government buildings with the support of demonstrators. Mossadegh fled after a tank fired a single shell into his house, but he later turned himself in to the army's custody. To prevent further bloodshed, he refused a last attempt to organize his supporters.[70] By the end of the day, Zahedi and the army were in control of the government.[9][10][11] Despite the CIA's role in creating the conditions for the coup, there is little evidence to suggest that Kermit Roosevelt or other CIA officials were directly responsible for the actions of the demonstrators or the army on August 19. It has even been suggested that Roosevelt's activities between August 15–19 were primarily intended to organize "stay-behind networks as part of the planned CIA evacuation of the country," although they allowed him to later "claim responsibility for the day's outcome."[71]

The Shah stayed in a hotel in Italy until he learned what had transpired, upon which he "chokingly declared": "I knew they loved me."[3] Allen Dulles, the director of the CIA, flew back with the Shah from Rome to Tehran.[72] Zahedi officially replaced Mosaddegh. Mossadegh was arrested, tried, and originally sentenced to death. But on the Shah's personal orders, his sentence was commuted[10][11][73][74] to three years' solitary confinement in a military prison, followed by house arrest until his death.[75]



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The very mysterious failed satellite launch in Florida
may be indicative of an ongoing "war" in America.

Are things getting crazy or what?


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Bruce Lee - "It is like a finger pointing away to the moon"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIA_-HgugAI


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It is indeed!  Superb analogy!

Bruce Lee knew too much which led to his
"neutralization" by "termination."


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Bruce Lee knew too much which led to his
"neutralization" by "termination."

Bruce Lee died.

None of us were there at the time, and no record of the event has been known.. therefore it's just a dot on the information wall.

The battlespace has shifted and focused itself for the final battle of the only human war, scarcity ideology and moral corruption.

No aliens required.


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Bruce Lee died.

None of us were there at the time, and no record of the event has
been known.. therefore it's just a dot on the information wall.

Those who believe Bruce Lee was the victim of Foul Play
continue to explore his very early death.

The Mystery of Bruce Lee's Death

Special Investigation:  Bruce Lee Murder Confidential

Suspicions to the present day remain strong...

Was Bruce Lee Murdered?


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15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses

http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/abs/2016/04/epn2016474p21/epn2016474p21.html

Steven Jones (1), Robert Korol (2), Anthony Szamboti (3) and Ted Walter (4)

(1) Brigham Young University (early retired)
(2) McMaster University (emeritus)
(3) Mechanical design engineer in the aerospace industry
(4) Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Abstract

On September 11, 2001, the world witnessed the total collapse of three large steel-framed high-rises. Since then, scientists and engineers have been working to understand why and how these unprecedented structural failures occurred.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/node/547843#axzz4Jy8l9JWL

"Another scientific study pointing out that the collapse of the building on 9-11 could not have been due to fire."


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It's been going on for a long time.

Apache escorting ISIS toyota convoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_Ciq9BI-I

The US also bombed Iraqi forces that were fighting ISIS, it is not new.

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On a slightly different but related (deception issues) we have a political party in Australia that is really saying things differently.
The leader Pauline Hanson was some time ago falsely jailed and subsequently released, she is sitting just in front of the Senator speaking, she has red hair.
It seems they are ready to tear the major party gimps a new one. hooraah. They have quite a bit of support, even from disgruntled "major party pollies".

At about 13:00 he starts talking about the banks. At about 16:20 he begins to speak of the UN, EU, IMF, Agenda 21/2030 ect.. He's calling them all out as gutless accomplices.

It's priceless !

One Nation Senator Calls for Australia to Exit UN, Refers to EU as 'Socialist Monolithic Monster'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhB8GRemWO4

Could there be some hope ?
   

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Very gratifying FarmHand!!

The Love of Truth may be catching on.

Mr. Apocalypse told us he'd reveal all of the shenanigans
taking place under cover of "darkness" and bring it all
out into the light of day.  It may have begun!


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Yes it is refreshing, considering that voting here is compulsory and if we have a option that favours truth
and we vote for them then we have at least got some input towards a better future maybe.



   
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Malcolm Roberts is an educated man and it seems Brian Cox is either nervous or has Parkinson's disease as
he is quite visibly shaking in his left hand while he holds up the "Graph", at 4:15 for a bit in the video.
It's really quite funny, but also shocking. Brian Cox as educated as he is is either very naive and silly or a part of the problem "purchased science".

And just to clarify the show and it's audience is always biased, the applause is not indicative of popular opinion as far as I can see, but I live in the north
away from the cities most up here do not buy into the global warming at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEGHW6Lbu8

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Here's another good one that is well worth watching and
listening to:
  A Ukrainian lady telling us the straight-poopy
about the situation there.  She is a very capable spokes-
person for that segment of the Ukrainian population that
"gets-it."

After all, what is happening in The Ukraine and for that matter
all of Europe, is a direct outgrowth of the 9/11 deception.

America has very dirty and very bloody hands.


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A year of Russian anti-ISIS ops in Syria: 5 key milestones

https://www.rt.com/news/361144-russia-syria-campaign-anniversary/

Published time: 30 Sep, 2016 05:10

Precisely a year ago Moscow joined the campaign in Syria at the request of Damascus. While killing thousands of jihadists, Russia suffered military losses, but became one of the driving forces behind attempts at the national reconciliation process.

On September 30, 2015 Russian jets conducted their first strikes against terrorist targets in Syria, hitting Islamic State (IS, formerly known as ISIS/ISIL) positions near the cities of Homs and Hama.

By that time the US-led coalition had been already active in Syria for over a year. Yet Russia became the only state which received an official request from Syrian President Bashar Assad to conduct air strikes in the country. The Russian jets operated from the Khmeimim air base located in Syria’s Latakia Governorate.

Liberation of Palmyra

During its mission, the Russian Air Force aided the Syrian army in liberating one of the country’s key cities and a world heritage site – Palmyra. The ancient city had been under the control of IS since May 2015 before it was retaken by government forces backed by Russian airstrikes in March this year.

Jihadists destroyed numerous historical landmarks during the occupation, while leaving roads, houses and monuments booby trapped. Russian and Syrian sappers defused thousands of mines left by the terrorists after their retreat. Following the liberation of the ravaged city, the world-famous Russian conductor Valery Gergiev led a concert in Palmyra to support its restoration and honor the victims of the war.

Downing of SU-24


The Russian military operation in Syria was marred by a tragic incident last year after Turkish fighter jets downed a Russian Su-24 bomber near the Syria-Turkey border. One pilot died as a result, while another one was rescued. Ankara said that the Russian plane violated its airspace, but Moscow said the Su-24was attacked over the Syrian border. During their rescue operations Russian forces also lost a helicopter, which was attacked from the ground by the militants.

Reacting to the Su-24 downing President Putin called the incident “a stab in the back”, with Moscow imposing sanctions on Turkey. Russia suspended direct air connections with Turkey as a result. In June Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan apologized for the attack in a written statement, which led to the normalization of bilateral relations.

The Russian air campaign in Syria resulted in the loss of three more choppers. One of the helicopters was downed in Idlib province in July after a human aid delivery to civilians in the embattled city of Aleppo.

Reduction of military presence

On March 15 Putin ordered the withdrawal of the majority of Russian jets and personnel from Syria, announcing that the major part of the operation in Syria was over. “I believe that the objectives with which the Ministry of Defense has been tasked have been largely reached. Therefore, starting with tomorrow I order the withdrawal of the main part of our military from the Syrian Arab Republic,” Putin said.

Back then officials stated that the Russian jets conducted over 7,000 sorties destroying numerous bases and hideouts of jihadists and leaving nearly 13,000 terrorists dead. The remaining units of the Russian air force continued to assist Syrian government troops in tackling jihadists across the country.

Humanitarian assistance

Over the course of the Syrian mission Russia established a Reconciliation Center in the country. The facility was tasked with helping to monitor the cessation of hostilities and implement international peace proposals on the ground.

On July 28 this year the center and the Syrian government introduced three “safe corridors” for civilians willing to leave the ravaged Aleppo. The plan also included a fourth passage for militants who wanted to surrender. The corridors have been largely used to deliver humanitarian aid, including medicine and water to the population.

According to a representative, Moscow delivered tens of tons of aid to Aleppo from the Khmeimim airbase. Following the introduction of the routes, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu voiced his discontent with militants who “shelled villages, attacked the positions of government troops” near the exit routes as well as inside Aleppo. The UN estimated that around 250,000 residents of the city have been in dire need of basic supplies.

Peace process

While battling jihadists from the air, Russia alongside the US was a key player in negotiating a political solution to the Syrian deadlock. Following marathon talks in Geneva in February, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his US counterpart John Kerry brokered a deal on the cessation of hostilities in Syria.

The agreement, which came into force on February 27, included a stop to military action from both the rebel and government side. Terrorist groups, like IS and Jabhat al-Nusra were excluded from the truce deal. After establishing its Reconciliation Center at Khmeimim air base, Moscow handed over contact data to Washington.

However in the following weeks, the Russian Defense Ministry said that it noted “verified proof of systematical violations” on the part of anti-government forces. It has also urged Washington to stick to promises and push the rebels to delineate their territories from those held by terrorists. The US on its part said Damascus attempted to jeopardize the cessation of hostilities, adding that Moscow did not use its influence over President Assad.

The deteriorating violence across Syria forced the US and Russia to acknowledge that the ceasefire had to be renegotiated. A fresh round of talks resulted in a new deal on the cessation of hostilities, announced by Lavrov and Kerry on September 9 in Geneva. The agreement was part of a larger peace plan, which also included the delivery of humanitarian aid, in particular to Aleppo. The deal, which again excluded terrorist groups came into force on September 12 but has since been marred by numerous violations. Just three days later Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said US-backed rebels had been “intensifying the shelling of residential areas” in Aleppo.

Moscow also demanded Washington use its influence to persuading rebel forces to clearly separate themselves from jihadists in Syria to avoid hitting them in airstrikes. John Kerry in return said President Assad has not been willing to comply with the peace agreement.

Speaking to RT President Assad’s Political and Media Adviser Dr. Bouthaina Shaaban said that while Russia is “truly fighting terrorism,” internal disagreements in the US are hampering truce efforts inside Syria.

A fresh row between Moscow and Washington blew up Wednesday when State Department spokesperson John Kirby warned Russia that “more Russian lives will be lost” and its interests attacked if violence in Syria continued.

His comments came in the wake of reports of heightened bombing in Aleppo. In response on Thursday a spokesperson for the Russian Defense Ministry said that Moscow is “fully prepared to continue the dialogue with the American side and carry on with the joint actions to combat terrorists in Syria.”

However Konashenkov noted that even “slightest hints of a threat to our soldiers and Russian citizens must be excluded from this dialogue.”


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Precisely a year ago Moscow joined the campaign in Syria at the request of Damascus.

Precisely a year ago I, along with many other analysts, held our collective breath.. for six (6) weeks straight..

Why did we do that ?


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Oh gee what a surprise

Pentagon paid PR firm $540mn to make fake terrorist videos
https://www.rt.com/usa/361385-pentagon-pr-firm-terrorist-videos/
   
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Many Australians are taking the idea of leaving the UN seriously.
I never would have thought so but it seems that the polls I'm seeing
are almost 95% in favour of having nothing more to do with the UN.
I had no idea so many people were feeling that way.

http://blog.idftraining.com.au/cast-your-vote-do-you-support-an-aus-exit-from-the-united-nations/

However there is some confusion as the term ausexit is being used for the UN exit idea, but there is also a campaign
to exit the Commonwealth or break from Britain so to speak using the same ausexit term, Independence for Australia in other words.
May be deliberate or maybe not, confusing yes.

Here are my thoughts, we should have nothing to do with the U.N., Australia should be independent and Australia should
also tell the U.S. to remove all military hardware/Bases/missile sites and military personnel from our country at least until
such time as the war mongering elite are dealt with.

We should remove ourselves from the central banking system as a matter of priority as well.

It's high time all the corrupt and criminal governmental behaviour and policies were challenged and ended.

Australia needs to shut up shop and clean house.

Many people need to held accountable for high crimes and jailed. We should start at the top and go back maybe 25 years or more.

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Those are very encouraging signs FarmHand.
It would seem that all y'all down in Oz are awakening
much more than we 'Merkans.  Perhaps it is due
to your location near my favorite part of the Planet:
Asia.  While in the Navy I had the good fortune to
visit numerous Asian nations and found them all to
be delightful.

It is also very encouraging to see how the East
European nations of Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech
Republic and the Balkans are awakening to the
evils of the E.U. and beginning to resist its pressures.
Pressures which actually originate from the War-Mongers
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‘US, Britain and France now air force for terrorists in Syria’

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/362107-us-france-uk-syria-terrorists/

For nearly six years, Washington and its allies have gotten away with playing a cynical double game in Syria’s war. But now the mask is slipping to reveal the ugly face of Western involvement – it is openly siding with terrorists.

Russia was correct to veto a French-sponsored draft resolution at the UN Security Council this weekend. Along with American and British vigorous support, the French proposal centered on halting military flights over the besieged northern Syrian city of Aleppo.

As Russia’s foreign ministry commented, the French initiative was tantamount to giving air cover for insurgents dominated by the internationally proscribed terrorist group Jabhat al Nusra. In short, a no-fly zone protecting terrorists would have been imposed in violation of Syrian sovereign rights, as well as international law.

An alternative draft resolution put forward by Russia was subsequently nixed by the US, Britain and France. The Russian proposal was aimed at reviving the ceasefire arrangement declared last month by US Secretary of State John Kerry and Moscow’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. It reiterated the need for anti-government militants to dissociate from the proscribed terrorist groups affiliated with al Qaeda, including al Nusra and Daesh (ISIS).

Russia is calling for a general ceasefire, but it does not specify the condition of halting military flights over Aleppo.

If France and its Western allies were genuine about wanting to stop the violence, then why don’t they get behind the Kerry-Lavrov deal? They have evidently abandoned that ceasefire arrangement because it was exposing Western claims about supporting “moderate rebels” as distinct from “extremists” as a fallacy.

That the Kerry-Lavrov truce was immediately violated by the insurgents and that there was no separation of “moderates” and “extremists” showed once and for all that Western claims of supporting “legitimate rebels” are a farce. Washington, London and Paris are patently backing a terrorist army fighting for their objective of regime change in Syria.

Since Syria and its Russian ally resumed offensive operations to take the key battleground city of Aleppo on September 22, the Western sponsors of the terror proxies have become increasingly shrill in a media campaign to thwart that offensive.

America, Britain and France have decried “war crimes” allegedly committed by Syrian and Russian air strikes. John Kerry, ahead of the weekend spat at the UN, called for a probe into suspected war crimes attributed to Russia.

Western media have been saturated with unverified reports from the militant-held eastern Aleppo purporting to show Syrian and Russian air strikes on civilian centers, including hospitals. Much of the information coming out of eastern Aleppo is sourced from Western-funded “activists” who are embedded with the Nusra terrorists. Tellingly, Western media and governments are in effect peddling what is terrorist propaganda.

The Russian and Syrian governments deny Western claims. They say their military operations are targeting terrorist groups that are deliberately using the 250,000 civilian population in east Aleppo as human shields.

It is significant that the more the Syrian army and its allies among Iranian, Lebanese and Iraqi militia, as well as Russian air support, make advances to retake Aleppo, the more hysterical Western governments and media become about “war crimes”.

If we start from the premise that the conflict in Syria has from the outset been a Western-orchestrated covert war for regime change involving the sponsoring of a terrorist mercenary army, then the Western hysteria over Aleppo is perfectly understandable.

A defeat for the insurgents in Aleppo means the end of the Western criminal enterprise to install a pro-Western puppet regime in Syria. That would mark a historic blow to the prestige of Washington and its European allies in the Middle East. It would also further expose their criminal complicity.

By contrast, Russian influence in the strategic region would be elevated. And for good reasons too. Moscow will be seen as having stood by a sovereign nation to vanquish Western powers who have wreaked havoc in the region with illegal wars and regime-change subterfuges.

Given the high stakes, this is why Western powers are evidently becoming more desperate to impede Syrian and Russian military success against the insurgents. Western emotive denunciations against Syria and Russia have nothing to do with concern for human suffering. It is all about contriving a moralistic political pressure to hamper the campaign against the West’s terrorist project.

Seen in this context, French calls at the UN for a no-fly zone around Aleppo is a startling admission by the Western powers that they are trying to protect terrorist al Qaeda-affiliated organizations. It is a stunning revelation of the fraudulent and criminal nature of Western governments. Their claims of “fighting terrorism” which have justified overseas wars over the past 15 years are self-evidently bogus. Their claims of supporting a “pro-democracy uprising” in Syria are grotesque.

This giant fraud has, of course, been made possible because Western media corporations have gone along with the vile charade. These media organizations are equally complicit. Giving succor to war crimes is in itself a war crime, as international attorney Christoper Black points out.

Meanwhile, away from Aleppo and the Western distortion of what is happening there, the alternative media report that the US-led military coalition is destroying bridges on the Euphrates in the eastern province of Deir ez-Zor.

According to the Syrian Free Press and others, American air strikes have demolished seven major river crossings over the past week. The latest strike was on the al Syasia bridge north of the city of Deir ez-Zor, the largest bridge in the province.

Targeting civilian infrastructure is a war crime. It will prevent humanitarian aid convoys reaching civilians in government-held Deir ez-Zor. But more significantly, the US, French and British coalition – which is operating illegally in Syria in the first place – is working to block the Syrian army and Russian offensive against the Daesh terror stronghold of Raqqa. The bridges knocked out were providing key linkages for the Syrian and Russian forces from Deir ez-Zor towards Raqqa.

The US-led air strikes also give full meaning to the deadly American attack on the Syrian army base at Deir ez-Zor on September 17. Over 60 Syrian troops and nearly 200 more were wounded when US, British and Australian warplanes blasted the base in a sustained attack. Washington claimed it was an “accident”.

But to many other observers, the massacre was no accident. It was a deliberate assault by the Western coalition to end the Kerry-Lavrov pact because the failing ceasefire was exposing the systematic terror connections of the Western governments in Syria.

Washington and its allies are not just trying to give air cover to the terrorists in Syria indirectly by setting up so-called no-fly zones. They are evidently now giving the terrorists air fire-power.

As in the NATO regime-change war in Libya in 2011, the Americans, French and British are riding shotgun in the air for terrorists on the ground.

And the truly disgusting thing about this criminal collusion is that the Western powers claim to be concerned about international law, war crimes and human suffering.


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As in the NATO regime-change war in Libya in 2011, the Americans, French and British are riding shotgun in the air for terrorists on the ground.



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