author=TinselKoala link=topic=3232.msg63944#msg63944 date=1501745003]
Let me ask you this: What kind of evidence _would_ be able to convince you that we did actually successfully land and return manned missions to the moon? Is there anything that would convince you?
OK,that we can do,and i would hope that your answers can be backed with !proof!,and common sense physics.
1- For what reason dose the lunar rover appear to be driving around in slow motion.
Now we know that the moon has 1/6th gravity to that of earth,and so the rover should come back down slower,but why would it rise up slower when it hits a big hole or mound. Being that the gravity is much less on the moon,then a given force acting upon the rover should see it rise/jump up much quicker than it would here on earth.
Even the dirt being spat out by the spinning wheels is in slow motion
the motions of the lunar rover are so unrealistic,its just a joke.
Watch it in full screen,and have a good laugh-because that is what it is--a joke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EliLP5uEYAUAnd in the same sense,why would the astronauts also be in slow motion?
Acceleration back to the moons surface after a jump-ok,due to a lower acceleration of gravity.
But why slow motion when they jump upward's?-no common sense there.
Even mythbusters them self(self acclaimed moon walker believers),inadvertently proved how the slow motion,and lower gravity could have easily been done,and the video below(puppets on a string) show this is how it was done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23BIb_PMJ4MJarrah Whites video covers two of the points i have made.
See the bail out by mithbusters Adam Savage.
2- Why dose the flag wave?
And in this case,we are not talking about the waving flags that the astronauts are holding.
In this one,we are talking about the flag waving due to the draft created by the astronaut as he jumps on past it.
From 2:35 if you want to skip the rest .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1YxNx1cTWIThen there is the astronauts defying the laws of physics.
There is simply no way some of these actions could be performed--unless your name is Michael Jackson.
The one at 2:05 is the best-both feet off the ground,just hovering there lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcz0eL_bYsIAnd the biggest one
Can you provide any proof that an almost vertical landing/descent was possible in a rocket powered craft on the moon,when it couldnt be done in the controlled conditions of earth,where the rocket engines would also have added thrust,due to the atmosphere,making the thrusters respond much more directly that they would in the vacuum of space.
Are we to believe that 6 successful vertical descent landings,using rocket powered crafts,in the vacuum of space,were achieved one after the other,by different astronauts,when no such thing was ever achieved here on earth,and where no training at all could have taken place prior to the astronauts performing these wondrous feats.
When we look at the history of VTVL vehicles,only the apollo lunar lander is listed in the 1960's as being a VTVL rocket powered vehicle.
The next VTVL vehicle attempt was from the Soviet Union in the late 1980's,but never flew.
It wasn't until some 30 years later that McDonnell Douglas successfully flew a rocket powered VTVL vehicle--> the DC-X ,and this was an unmanned craft.
These will do for starters,but many more questions to come.
Brad
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