How nice that it would be a woman................[to bring us OU open source}
Maybe we should get more girls here??
Some very Knowing eyes looking Very ,Very Hard at this one ?????
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-20.html
Chet
Thanks Chet,
If you're a member there, can you please grab the circuit schematic files she posted there and post here? I don't have an account and I can only read text.
Hi EM,
We got smooshed by the Storm in Connecticut, I am not able to get that info at this time {public library].
Perhaps Deep cut can Post some of that ?
Thanks
Chet
PS
Could really use some" F E" Now!!
PPS
Some VERY serious experimenters looking at this {very exciting stuff!!].
OK -- I bit and looked at the Zilano posts at Energetic also.
Searched, and found she says today, about schematics she posted before:
Quote
hi sinergicus!
well sometimes bad things happen when we dont want em to happen! same thing happned! at wrong time!
many forum members r having schematics of mine. ask em to help. my comp been formatted so i dont have older schematics that i posted b4.
But -- she recently posted a sketch and block-diagram, which I've put side-by-side and attached. If someone can make sense of these, pls help! See talks about a "reverse Tesla coil"... and bifilar windings...
Here's the text she provided with the block-diagram on the right:
QuoteHERE IS NEW ARRANGEMENT FOR LOW INPUT. HERE WE JUST TRIGGER RESONANCE SO WE NEED JUST FEEBLE SPARK TO GET COILS RINGING. OUTPUT IS NOT EFFECTED AND HIGH INPUT NOT REQUIRED COZ WE R USING FERRITE CORE OR RODS. AIR CORE COILS R DEPENDENT ON HIGH INPUT SO MAGNETIC FIELD PRODUCED IS STRONGER. HERE FERRITE STRENGTHENS THE MAGNETIC FEILD SO LOWER INPUT AND EVEN A FEEBLE SPARK CAN TRIGGER RESONANCE. USE PRI 1/4 OF SEC. AND U WONT BE NEEDING CAPS AND COILS CAN BE MADE FROM ORDINARY THICK WIRE. BUT OUTPUT COILS MUCH THICKER TO GET MORE AMPS.TRY WITH SAME WIRE ALL COILS FIRST. WIRE MUST BE PVC COATED. IF LENGTHS R USED IN 1/4 AND 4 RATIO U DONT NEED CAPS. IN CASE U DONT GET IT RINGING THEN USE CAPS. THE SHORTED LENGTH IS REPLACED WITH CAP across one coil of bifilar see 2nd pic.
regards
zilano zeis zane
Quote from: DeepCut on 2011.08.30, 20:19:09
They are now compiling a design document as they go :
http://www.energeticforum.com/attachments/renewable-energy/8838d1314584268-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-dynatrons-pdf-circuit-design-google-translation.pdf
Deepcut -- but is that PDF of Zilano's design, or someone else's? (if so, whose?) thanks.
Attached is Zilano's latest, again side-by-side, showing where to add caps it needed as she says.
Quote from: PhysicsProf on 2011.08.30, 19:53:47
OK -- I bit and looked at the Zilano posts at Energetic also.
Searched, and found she says today, about schematics she posted before:
But -- she recently posted a sketch and block-diagram, which I've put side-by-side and attached. If someone can make sense of these, pls help! See talks about a "reverse Tesla coil"... and bifilar windings...
Here's the text she provided with the block-diagram on the right:
IMO....
She can only be describing the following:
A magnetostriction amplifier with high voltage primary and low voltage secondary.
The only time you can forget capacitance for a tank is when the resonant frequency is mechanical resonance. Magnetostriction oscillators do not require capacitors to be resonant at incredibly low frequencies. I have made some resonant in the tens of Hertz before.
The term 'bifilar' used for the primary also applies to such devices. In order to obtain the maximum expansion/contraction of the core you should have coils at both ends wound with opposite handedness. These coils are generally separated with some distance but can be wound as one coil consisting of two conductors. One of the coil conductors is then reverse connected. The secondary is normally centered on the rod-like core and made of much heavier wire than the primary with fewer turns.
These are interesting because:
1. the relative motion between the core and output coils is perpendicular with almost no coupling
2. the coupling between primary and secondary is not integral to the transformer-like function
3. at resonance these can be quite violent
4. loading the secondary increases the magnetostrictive action.
This appears to be a copy of Tariel Kapanadze's device, less his pulsing startup circuit and feedback.
Thanks for the insights, WW.
"at resonance these can be quite violent" -- please elaborate on this.
On many of my high voltage experiments I used a piece of window glass as a working surface.
While testing a similar device it shattered the glass when it reach the resonant point. This was basically a bundle of metal rods with a coil at each end.
The rods were the ones used on marker flags purchased at the local hardware store. These are the ones folks use to mark buried cables or a new garden plot. I don't know the alloy content but suspect there are high amounts of iron, nickel and aluminum.
QuoteThere are lots of her early posts where she says 'pic attached' but there is no attachment.
Forum energetic there is a limit you have attachments, and then after a while if you want
to add more attachments you have to delete the oldest .. O0
Leo48
Quote from: leo48 on 2011.08.31, 07:40:02
Forum energetic there is a limit you have attachments, and then after a while if you want
to add more attachments you have to delete the oldest .. O0
Leo48
In addition, at EnergeticForum, you have no choice but to renew your password for a period of inactivity and you can't see .jpg's and .pdf's without one. You can only look at uploaded .html page diagrams, however. Hassle! >:(
I was briefly looking into the possibility of doing more research on
simple Kapagen systems, but the high voltage and high current tends to put me off. One false move and it could be my last. That's potentially kiloWatts of power! One the other hand, a somewhat higher voltage battery-powered might be feasible in the future, if I can budget the money on some Redio Shack components.
--Lee
SOoooooo
Things seem to be Coalescing into a schematic??
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-24.html#post154719
ZZZZZZZZZZ Is being quite helpful!!
Seems so simple I "almost" understand !!
Chet
Quote from: ramset on 2011.09.02, 22:15:55
SOoooooo
Things seem to be Coalescing into a schematic??
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-24.html#post154719
ZZZZZZZZZZ Is being quite helpful!!
Seems so simple I "almost" understand !!
Chet
That's a straightforward drawing in my eyes. But, how is it tuned to resonance? Have you tried to figure the COP?
--Lee
Lee
The COP is off the charts if it works as advertised !!
Oh how I would love to play with this one..........But I don't have the skills to do this "Yet"!!
Personally I don't believe there are many folks on the planet that can effectively discern what's taking place in these circuits and make decisions on "how to proceed"!! {YET}
That is Gonna change very quickly !!
Chet
Quote from: ramset on 2011.09.03, 01:28:29
Lee
The COP is off the charts if it works as advertised !! ...
Really? I hadn't ever seen the input power readings from something like a Kill-O-Watt meter for a Kapagen design.
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... Oh how I would love to play with this one..........But I don't have the skills to do this "Yet"!! ...
Neither do I. These circuits input (usually) 220 VAC from the wall power mains. For Europeans, that specifically 50 Hz. It's also enough to kill quickly if the unshielded or uninsulated parts of a circuit are touched.
That puts me off. One unguarded moment is all it takes. I might hurt for a second or two at 220 V, but it'll be all over after that.
Quote
Personally I don't believe there are many folks on the planet that can effectively discern what's taking place in these circuits and make decisions on "how to proceed"!! {YET}
That is Gonna change very quickly !!
Chet
Yeah, I agree. It appears that Kapanedze put a lot of theory and practical work into his design, and he's the expert now.
I remember reading in an English language-translated interview that he said his circuit follows Tesla in how it ("might", from my memory) utilize the spark gap similarly to a Tesla coil and that the output stage "might" be similar as an efficient voltage/current generator. He actually did say in 2 places and he pointed them out to the interviewer. This was awhile ago, though, but I remember that.
--Lee
Quotehttp://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-24.html#post154719
Hey Chet, that's a lousy diagram. I don't think there's anything to this Zilano claim. I'll take the original patent schematics over this drawing any day.
PS, I like her animated drawing here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-25.html#post154844
I have found two very interesting patents for magnetic amplifier with feedback circuits O0
See attached expired patents
Thanks for reviving this thread Classic, and for linking to those two magnetic amplifier patents.
I've been thinking long and hard the past few days about amplification, resonance and positive feedback. This Wikipedia article on positive feedback (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback) was quite interesting.
To me it seems that if you feed back a percentage of the output into the input, and the input and output are in phase, then you will gain each cycle. Since the amount fed back is a percentage of the output, it will turn into an exponential growth (trumpet) curve like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dz4gG2Q/Trumpet-wave.png)
I posted the following to the Arie De Geus thread, but it seems relevant to the amplification using feedback (regeneration) patents you mentioned above.
QuoteIf oscillation is started from, say, 10 μVolts at A and allowed to grow at compound interest, say, 5%, until B, each cycle will be 1.05 times greater than the one before it. Suppose there are 150 cycles. Then the amplitude of the final one will be 10 × 1.05149, which is 10 × 1440. If the starting level had been, say, twice as great, the output would have been double, too. Output is exactly proportional to input.
Could the answer be as simple as passing back a small percentage of the output into the input? Such a system would require a kick start to run a few cycles initially, but thereafter it should be self running. This is the direction that I am investing more time into.
This is exactly what is described in the patent... even using a battery for start ^-^
There isn't a huge gain per stage, but series-parallel will do wonders ... same as Arie deGeus explained.
In those patents, circuits will amplify or decrease according to load powered, by themselves
Even though the gains per cycle might be marginal, if the system operates at a high enough frequency then that's all you need. If the system worked at, say, 1MHz and you want to output 50Hz then that gives you 20,000x more time periods within which to pump up the output.
Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 10:27:14
I've been thinking long and hard the past few days about amplification, resonance and positive feedback. This Wikipedia article on positive feedback (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback) was quite interesting.
The amplification of voltage or current or instantaneous power is nothing unusual and is done every day in power supply circuits.
The amplification of energy is very unusual and I have never seen it done in person.
Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.10, 10:27:14
To me it seems that if you feed back a percentage of the output into the input, and the input and output are in phase, then you will gain each cycle. Since the amount fed back is a percentage of the output, it will turn into an exponetial growth (trumpet) curve like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/Dz4gG2Q/Trumpet-wave.png)
You are correct and that is easy to do with voltage or current (but not both at the same time). Increasing instantaneous power is trivial, too.
However increasing energy from cycle to cycle, is not.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.10, 15:29:57
The amplification of voltage or current or instantaneous power is nothing unusual and is done every day in power supply circuits.
The amplification of energy is very unusual and I have never seen it done in person.
You are correct and that is easy to do with voltage or current (but not both at the same time). Increasing instantaneous power is trivial, too.
However increasing energy from cycle to cycle, is not.
Sure, because it must be external energy source to pump from...
I am not sure that anyone may achieve something trying to obtain more electrical power from electrical power ... for me this sound just silly.
So, what we know ? Electricity is always accompanied by magnetism, i hope we all agree with this. Now, when we increase the voltage in conductors what happen with magnetic field ? It is pushed away from conductor if high frequency of electricity is provided. But what this high frequency is really doing in AC ? Is pumping the aether.
So, at high voltage and high frequency we talk about silly things that mainstream science teach us like skin effect and proximity effect and we cannot see that actually a river of electricity that we captured in a conductor will be a strong flow that increase its volume and start to flow outside the conductor ... not easy to find the right words.
So, electricity is confined in a conductor by a magnetic field, yes magnetic field contain the electricity. When we pulse an electric flow at high frequency and high voltage we push away the constrain force.
So, try to build a picture in your mind: + and - in AC are capacitor plates and they which goes apart than come close like a breathe in and breathe out, when they go for amplitude = deep breathe in, than fall to zero = breathe out, so, push magnetic field away, than let it come back. That's why a square wave where amplitude is longer equal with accumulation and sharp fall all the way from + to - is a sudden release ... deep long breathe in, short strong breathe out ... pull apart capacitor plates, push against each other capacitor plates ... nullify magnetic field = aether in, activate magnetic field = aether out.
So, the aether is everywhere in universe and surrounds everything, a permanent magnet is a device that pushes away aether, a superconductor pushes away magnetic field.
On planet Earth we have gravity which have an effect on aether hence its density and press hard against magnetic field. This a good think if we plan to use it as a free source of compression against magnetic field.
Actually, when we pulse voltages we also pulse magnetic field as well, this is where extra energy comes from.
When 2 or more circuits resonate they break the resistance against electricity in a conductor.
A superconductor material will float between aether and magnet that's why will always around the magnet but don't fall.
Also, explain kickback electricity.
Metals with magnetic properties act like a spring they can switch sides between aether and magnetism, so, when electric flow is stopped in a iron core coil magnetic field collapse and aether can fill the place...
Quote from: Classic on 2023.10.10, 22:26:23
I am not sure that anyone may achieve something trying to obtain more electrical power from electrical power ... for me this sound just silly.
One could equally say its silly to get more 'light' from light. But the problem here, you, and no one else on the planet either, can define 'electrical power'. If 'electrical power' is ONLY vibrating atomic crystals then we are playing with frequencies not some mythical and unlimited definition of 'electrical power'. If one of your 'premises' in a debate is wrong it follows that the conclusion is wrong.
So, what we know ? Electricity is always accompanied by magnetism, i hope we all agree with this. Now, when we increase the voltage in conductors what happen with magnetic field ? It is pushed away from conductor if high frequency of electricity is provided. But what this high frequency is really doing in AC ? Is pumping the aether.
Again 'electricity' is the crystalline atomic structure being VIBRATED by Non Physical wave forms from a magnet. This induces a Field Polarity where one end of the 'wire' or coil is positive and the other Negative. Magnetism is present in ALL Matter as ALL Matter vibrates. Aether does not come into this equation. Aether is only MANIFESTED if one is creating a Neutral Centre.
Dont expect me to agree with your understanding of magnetism when you failed to understand electricity as an INDUCED or Manufactured Vibration.
So, at high voltage and high frequency we talk about silly things that mainstream science teach us like skin effect and proximity effect and we cannot see that actually a river of electricity that we captured in a conductor will be a strong flow that increase its volume and start to flow outside the conductor ... not easy to find the right words.
There is no 'river' of electricity. The COIL is being Vibrated at 60 times a second. These Induced Vibrations can be 'stored' within an insulated "Field" and released as Flat Line DC.
So, electricity is confined in a conductor by a magnetic field,
So 'electricity' being Vibrations can be held in Capacitor. It is NOT confined by a Magnetic Field.
yes magnetic field contain the electricity. When we pulse an electric flow at high frequency and high voltage we push away the constrain force.
No a NEW or stronger Magnetic Field is the result of Vibrations or Waves. This 'constrain force' is imaginary wordology.
So, try to build a picture in your mind: + and - in AC are capacitor plates and they which goes apart than come close like a breathe in and breathe out, when they go for amplitude = deep breathe in, than fall to zero = breathe out, so, push magnetic field away, than let it come back. That's why a square wave where amplitude is longer equal with accumulation and sharp fall all the way from + to - is a sudden release ... deep long breathe in, short strong breathe out ... pull apart capacitor plates, push against each other capacitor plates ... nullify magnetic field = aether in, activate magnetic field = aether out.
+ and - in AC are the START and STOP 'effect' of the Induced or INCREASE in the Atomic Structure of the wire/coil from the Non Physical Wave form of the Magnet passing by the wire/coil.
The Capacitor is activated by these Induced Vibrations and the release of the Vibrations is the SAME as the release of Vibrations from a single Cell Battery or what we call DC.
So, the aether is everywhere in universe and surrounds everything, a permanent magnet is a device that pushes away aether, a superconductor pushes away magnetic field.
The Aether is an ENERGY GRID of NON PHYSICAL ENERGY that exists for the other 4 states of Energy Frequency Vibrations to MANIFEST upon. The Aether is the 'container' of energy that we call The Universe. The Aether is Separate to 'everything' but is requyired for 'everything' to be able to exist. Think of the Aether as the Material a Tapestry Print is woven upon on in 3D.
On planet Earth we have gravity which have an effect on aether hence its density and press hard against magnetic field. This a good think if we plan to use it as a free source of compression against magnetic field.
Gravity doesnt exist. There is no Opposite or equal 'force'. Its a made up term. There are only 2 Forces in the Universe.
Try to remember them as
Compression Expansion
Positive ad Negative
North and South Pole magnetism
Actually, when we pulse voltages we also pulse magnetic field as well, this is where extra energy comes from.
When the WIRE if 'pulsed' with what you seem to think as a 'thing' or Voltage, It is actually being Vibrated and this INCREASE in Vibration INCREASES the MAGNETIC FIELD of the Wire. The Wire as everything else is already Magnetic. You think its extra energy, but its only NOW MEASURABLE above the Ambient Vibrational rate of the Field of the Earth.
When 2 or more circuits resonate they break the resistance against electricity in a conductor.
Gobbley gook
A superconductor material will float between aether and magnet that's why will always around the magnet but don't fall.
For some one who still has imaginary ideas about 'electricity' I'd work on this first before stating what the Aether is and as Aristotle said, sets the Laws governing how Physical matter interacts.
Also, explain kickback electricity.
For every action theirs an opposite and equal reaction.
Metals with magnetic properties act like a spring they can switch sides between aether and magnetism, so, when electric flow is stopped in a iron core coil magnetic field collapse and aether can fill the place...
Everything is Magnetic .... Even insulators. All is made from Magnetic Light Structures.
Aether does not 'fill space' Aether is obviously beyond your comprehension at this time.
Classic. this post is pure NON sense. Until you comprehend what i and whitelightningwizard have presented, this forum will stagnate for another decade. When if you consider the Non Physical of energy, frequency and vibration like TESLA understood AC and he INVENTED it, your missives will always remain pure non sense.
This is a very interesting subject and if I may I would like to put a few of my own thoughts into the discussion.
+ and – in AC are the same as compression and expansion or integration and disintegration. One is pressure from the outside towards the centre the other push from the centre to the outside. As we know everything starts from the cathode and ends in anode, where the anode explodes and starts from the cathode again (and much more).
When we put electricity in + and - and look at the outside as to what we created with it, you can see the reflection of our knowledge.
Eather is an energy grid of non-physical energy, which is long low waves, low frequency, that are going to freeze you in a few nano seconds.
Gravity is the only power behind the physical universe. It is what we call o point energy. Inner gases are part of it, so is every idea behind physical manifestation.
When the wire is 'pulsed' we can create an electrical effect only. This is an electric universe and the effects of electricity. Magnetism belongs to the non-physical.
Every action creates its own reaction. Compression gives birth to expansion and expansion gives birth to compression. One cannot live without the other (we have shown in our video these exact effects).
Terminology does not mean much to most but if you are doing any work with electricity, your life depends on the full knowledge of it.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.10.12, 02:29:45
Gravity is the only power behind the physical universe. It is what we call o point energy.
If you are referring to zero point energy, I would say that you are quite wrong. zpe is electrical in nature. Check out Stanford's Prof Puthoff.
Hi Chet,
Zilano's home device based on Don Smith. Reverse Tesla step-down with transformer output. 10kW.
Schem attached. O0
Cheers,
wlw
Hi Paul,
Could you clarify for me where I was wrong?
1. The zero universe is without tension or strain
2. All matter is compressed motion
Zero point energy is exactly what it says – zero movement or no vibration.
In reality it is magnetic light controlling, balancing and surveying electric motion.
If it was electricity it would be physical or motion, it could not be a different dimension.
Best Regards
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.10.13, 03:38:30
Zero point energy is exactly what it says – zero movement or no vibration.
It is a technical term, a reserved word, as computer folk might say. Google quantum foam, zpe or Puthoff.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.10.13, 03:38:30
2. All matter is compressed motion
Shallow, but I could agree with that.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.10.13, 03:38:30
Zero point energy is exactly what it says – zero movement...
"Zero movement" with respect to what ? ...motion is relative.
I uploaded the image of the circuit to chatgpt4v
Based on the provided schematic and without additional details, it's challenging to definitively state whether the circuit can deliver a 10kW output. However, here are some factors and considerations:
1. 2N3055 Transistor: The 2N3055 is a general-purpose NPN bipolar junction transistor (BJT) known for its power handling capabilities. However, its power rating is typically around 115W, far below the 10kW you mentioned. If the transistor is pulsed with high currents in a very short duration, it might momentarily handle more power, but sustained operation at high powers would likely destroy it.
2. Transformer Construction: The efficiency and capability of a transformer to step-up voltage depend largely on its construction, the type of core used, the number of windings, and the quality of the wire. A TV flyback transformer, while capable of producing high voltages, is not typically designed for high power outputs like 10kW.
3. Circuit Design: This schematic lacks certain components typically associated with high-power Tesla coils, such as a spark gap or solid-state switching mechanisms, capacitors for resonance, and protection circuitry.
4. Heat Dissipation: At 10kW, components would generate significant heat. The resistors labeled as 5 Watt, for example, would be insufficient for such power levels unless they were part of a more intricate design not shown here.
5. Safety: Operating a circuit at 10kW, especially if it's boosting voltage to high levels, is inherently dangerous. Components can fail explosively, and there's a risk of electric shock, fire, and other hazards.
In conclusion, while the schematic shows elements of a step-up transformer, there are concerns about its ability to handle 10kW consistently based on the components and design presented. It's crucial to approach such designs with caution, thorough understanding, and rigorous testing. If you're serious about building a high-power Tesla coil or similar device, consider sourcing designs that are proven and have been safely tested at the desired power levels. Always prioritize safety.
@Jim
This is all true but there is a tacit assumption in all of it that the 10kW is generated continuously.
If the output power is pulsed then most of these objections do not apply.
Take look at Itsu's experiments with his pulser where the instantaneous output power easily exceeds 50kW.
Last, but not least, the limitations of a transistor like the 2N3055 do not have to determine the output power if not all the output current flows through that transistor, as it would be in a case of generating a pulse that merely initiates some internal energy generating process.
Just forget about chatgpt and similar, lately after someone have analysed what people are looking for, everything is biased and advise against. Actually all software similar with chagpt have become a giant surveillance online.
Such a system have a simple working principle using feedback from the load as input after initial start from a battery or grid. You need to monitor load impedance and make sure is always less than supplying power circuit. Eventually try to use reactive power as input after initial start. :) When design such a circuit you need to make sure it can deliver desired output and do not overdrawn. Transistor should use ground as voltage provider imo and probably a resistor would be desired to be intercalated with calculated necessary value or just another coil with desired characteristics.
Quote from: JimBoot on 2023.10.14, 00:35:19
I uploaded the image of the circuit to chatgpt4v
Based on the provided schematic and without additional details, it's challenging to definitively state whether the circuit can deliver a 10kW output. However, here are some factors and considerations:
1. 2N3055 Transistor: The 2N3055 is a general-purpose NPN bipolar junction transistor (BJT) known for its power handling capabilities. However, its power rating is typically around 115W, far below the 10kW you mentioned. If the transistor is pulsed with high currents in a very short duration, it might momentarily handle more power, but sustained operation at high powers would likely destroy it.
2. Transformer Construction: The efficiency and capability of a transformer to step-up voltage depend largely on its construction, the type of core used, the number of windings, and the quality of the wire. A TV flyback transformer, while capable of producing high voltages, is not typically designed for high power outputs like 10kW.
3. Circuit Design: This schematic lacks certain components typically associated with high-power Tesla coils, such as a spark gap or solid-state switching mechanisms, capacitors for resonance, and protection circuitry.
4. Heat Dissipation: At 10kW, components would generate significant heat. The resistors labeled as 5 Watt, for example, would be insufficient for such power levels unless they were part of a more intricate design not shown here.
5. Safety: Operating a circuit at 10kW, especially if it's boosting voltage to high levels, is inherently dangerous. Components can fail explosively, and there's a risk of electric shock, fire, and other hazards.
In conclusion, while the schematic shows elements of a step-up transformer, there are concerns about its ability to handle 10kW consistently based on the components and design presented. It's crucial to approach such designs with caution, thorough understanding, and rigorous testing. If you're serious about building a high-power Tesla coil or similar device, consider sourcing designs that are proven and have been safely tested at the desired power levels. Always prioritize safety.
Yeah ignorance can be bliss when 'stuck in the box'.
What if 'if' was reality (since ET can get to this planet with out mega fuel tanks i in it's wake! perhaps a small action we consider is large to produce usable energy has a hidden gender, and if exploited correctly doesn't expire when utilized, as Bearden once said don't destroy the dipole. Figure it out and keep me informed.
Sil
Hi Jim,
Well 10kW consideration taken really only at iso trafo.
This is Zilano circuit, not mine. Zelina based on Don Smith device. The energy at starting point 'A' is not the same energy all the way thru device to point 'B'.
We make disturbance and collect ambient energy as reaction.
So components like transistor, coils, resistors, need not have 10kW rating. Hope u understand!
Zilano is showing us the way! O0
wlw
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.14, 13:48:33
We make disturbance and collect ambient energy as reaction.
Why not energy from the core?
If the "ambient" has so much energy why doesn't burn us to a crisp ...at least once in a while?
Quote from: BEP on 2011.08.31, 00:43:14
She can only be describing the following:
A magnetostriction amplifier with high voltage primary and low voltage secondary.
The only time you can forget capacitance for a tank is when the resonant frequency is mechanical resonance. Magnetostriction oscillators do not require capacitors to be resonant at incredibly low frequencies. I have made some resonant in the tens of Hertz before.
So what was your magnetostrictive material ...and OP's ?
.
Zilano's home device based on Don Smith. Reverse Tesla step-down with transformer output. 10kW.
Reverse Tesla coil only gets you back to where you started not FE been there done that doesn't work.
Quote from: Paul-R on 2023.10.12, 10:25:06
If you are referring to zero point energy, I would say that you are quite wrong. zpe is electrical in nature. Check out Stanford's Prof Puthoff.
no it's not it's 'Electro-Magnetic' that's why it has 2 wires not one and wasnt't Prof Putkiss in Super car in the 50's?
I came across the Friis transmission equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friis_transmission_equation) for calculating the power transmitted & received and thought it seemed relevant to the Don Smith / Zilano topic.
(https://i.ibb.co/Zc6bHmx/friisformula4.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
If the receiver is over 24m away from the transmitter, then the received power is less than the transmitted power. As the distance shortens then the power received increases because energy is proportional to the square of their separation distance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law).
(https://i.ibb.co/Z8YYzSK/Antenna-receive-power-2.png) (https://ibb.co/QNCCvkn)
If the receiver is close to the transmitter (1cm), then it suggests the received power greatly exceeds the transmitted power.
(https://i.ibb.co/tD3mLrH/Antenna-receive-power.png) (https://ibb.co/zZNn6vm)
I must be clearly misunderstanding things here. Is the formula incorrect for short distances?
Quote from: lfarrand on 2023.10.14, 16:16:31
I came across the Friis transmission equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friis_transmission_equation) for calculating the power transmitted & received and thought it seemed relevant to the Don Smith / Zilano topic.
(https://i.ibb.co/Zc6bHmx/friisformula4.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
If the receiver is over 24m away from the transmitter, then the received power is less than the transmitted power. As the distance shortens then the power received increases because energy is proportional to the square of their separation distance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law).
(https://i.ibb.co/Z8YYzSK/Antenna-receive-power-2.png) (https://ibb.co/QNCCvkn)
If the receiver is close to the transmitter (1cm), then it suggests the received power greatly exceeds the transmitted power.
(https://i.ibb.co/tD3mLrH/Antenna-receive-power.png) (https://ibb.co/zZNn6vm)
I must be clearly misunderstanding things here. Is the formula incorrect for short distances?
Trial and error I would say ;)
And if you don't go mad to extract all that you can you may find that a little input can lead to a much bigger output without killing the source. If you do go to ise all you can you may find out that you start to draw more from source and lose the efficiency ... as suggested above, don't kill the dipole.
Have a look at the thread heat your home for less with ou, watch the youtube video AND read the comments
@verpies
The wind only knocks us sideways when it's disturbed... otherwise it's just invisible AIR.
Likewise, we can only see effects of ambient when it's disturbed and on its journey back to equilibrium.
@Alien
Reverse Tesla coil gets us high amps with lower volts. If you've tried b4 why not Try again!?
FE results from neg resistance (spark gap) fired into resonant transformer setup so impedance is 0.
Zilano says we need spark+resonance for OU! Stick with her! O0
wlw
Quote from: Classic on 2023.10.14, 09:09:28
Just forget about chatgpt and similar, lately after someone have analysed what people are looking for, everything is biased and advise against. Actually all software similar with chagpt have become a giant surveillance online.
intercalated with calculated necessary value or just another coil with desired characteristics.
lol yeah thanks for the tips. My digital marketing biz turns 25 this year. Learn about open source llms that you can use locally and do not require internet connection and you can train yourself
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.14, 19:17:23
@verpies
The wind only knocks us sideways when it's disturbed...
The energy of the "knocking over" is smaller than the energy needed to disturb the air, so your analogy does not illustrate any energy-gain mechanism.
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.14, 19:17:23
... otherwise it's just invisible AIR.
But even when there is no relative motion between air and the observer, it can be heard and felt or measured with thermometers, barometers, higrometers, spectrometers, chemical reactions, refractiometers, baloons, etc... and its properties can be defined based on that body of evidence.
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.14, 19:17:23
Likewise, we can only see effects of ambient when it's disturbed and on its journey back to equilibrium.
It is not likewise because this "ambient" cannot be felt or measured with any instruments like air.
Can you define the properties of this "ambient" ?
@verpies
The wind that blows in Nature, how much energy did it take to begin?
We don't know, therefore we can't quantify it.
We just stick turbine props with generators in the wind and capture this 'free energy' as renewable wind power.
AIR - It's an analogy for invisible quantities.
We can't meter radiant energy.
Don Smith explained ambient better than anyone. Take the weight of the Earth, multiply it by the speed of its rotation, and you have a physical quantity of the ambient background energy of the Earth (approx.).
If we are to build successful Zilano or Don devices, we must THINK like they did. Otherwise failures abound. O0
Cheers,
wlw
Don Smith device seems to have closed loop coil in output
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.15, 14:07:06
The wind that blows in Nature, how much energy did it take to begin?
At least 26.46TJ for a 10m/s wind over a square kilometer blowing for 12h.
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.15, 14:07:06
AIR - It's an analogy for invisible quantities.
A bad analogy that has only the invisibility in common.
Air has pressure, temperature, specific heat, chemical reactivity, chemical composition, ionization, humidity, speed, density, s.o.s., refraction, etc...
What properties does the counterpart have in this analogy?
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.15, 14:07:06
We can't meter radiant energy.
Why not?
Hi.
We only have meters for opposites, we can't measure equals.
Ed Leedskalnin said along the same lines, that we only measure 'half' of electricity.
No meters exist for the other half!!!
Forget the air.
If water is at top of a hill it will roll downhill to lower level. we all can agree!
Thus, if we disturb our ambient background energy it will go back to equilibrium on its own.
We must focus our attention to this concept.
We simply collect this equalization energy, as it costs us nothing.
Analogous to Gibb's Free Energy, the exothermic energy left over from a chemical reaction.
Don says to take this Chemistry idea into the realm of Physics, as fundamentally we are dealing with movement of electrons in both instances.
It works well for me!
Just my 2cents O0
Cheers,
wlw
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.15, 21:31:36
At least 26.46TJ for a 10m/s wind over a square kilometer blowing for 12h.
For some one who cant explain just exactly what "ENERGY" is, its nice to know you can ascribe numbers to this unknown. How many TJ's in a kilo of Plutonium or a Pound of AIR?
A bad analogy that has only the invisibility in common.
Air has pressure, temperature, specific heat, chemical reactivity, chemical composition, ionization, humidity, speed, density, s.o.s., refraction, etc...
Variable pressure, variable temp, Variable heat, There are NO Chemical reactions only Magnetic Interactions. There are NO Chemical compositions only Frequencies of Light with defined 'fields'. Ionization is Basic Hypercharging where one ADDS DC CURRENT to a Magnetic Field. Humidity is the MEASURE of the Field Forces towards IMPLOSION energies where the WIND or AIR is beginning to CONDENSE. Speed is velocity and it has many vectors and what about the TURBULENCE or Vortex energy in ANY wind event?
AIR or the WIND or 3rd Phase of Element Water. With all its NON PHYSICAL PROPERTIES that no one really understands other than Whitelightningwizard and MerLynn the Wizard. Fake Science is like Fake News. Its essential to keep the Asleeples WOKE.
The day Verpies studies Non Physical Properties of Magnetic Winds he will learn more in just a couple weeks than he has learned in his entire lifetime.
What properties does the counterpart have in this analogy?
First one needs to understand the Magnetic Properties of WIND. Weather Cells or WIND Vortex events are a MIRROR Image of SUNSPOT Weather events on the Sun. (as in both are formed by the SAME Forces) These Sunspots are 'formed' in relation to the POSITIONS of the Planets in respect to the Sun. The Same for Low and High Pressure Cells on Earth. These are some of the Non Physical Forces of what Drives the Wind.
Why not?
Well for one, its NON HERTAZIAN and all mans meters for 'energy' needs some frequency meter and RADIANT (Teslas other word for SCALAR) has NO FREQUENCY so the only way to measure this rare special energy from the AETHER that youse all seem to think you know more about and have never made it but WE have and so Verpies youse have never measured it and the reason is.... youve never made any Radiant Energy.
If youse want to reverse engineer these illusive inventions youse still cant figure out, youse need to think they way these GIFTED inventors thought. That is; NOT in terms of chemical reactions or electrons or "flow of current". But in the Terms their INNER GUIDANCE gave them with the INTUITIVE abilities to make that which you still cant understand. When will you get it? Not very soon it seems.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.14, 07:03:35
@Jim
This is all true but there is a tacit assumption in all of it that the 10kW is generated continuously.
If the output power is pulsed then most of these objections do not apply.
Take look at Itsu's experiments with his pulser where the instantaneous output power easily exceeds 50kW.
Last, but not least, the limitations of a transistor like the 2N3055 do not have to determine the output power if not all the output current flows through that transistor, as it would be in a case of generating a pulse that merely initiates some internal energy generating process.
Thanks for the lesson Verpies :)
Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.10.15, 23:49:30
Well for one, its NON HERTAZIAN and all mans meters for 'energy' needs some frequency meter and RADIANT (Teslas other word for SCALAR) has NO FREQUENCY
This is false.
Current science has no problems measuring scalar quantities. Barometers and thermometers are examples of such meters.
Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.10.15, 23:49:30
AIR or the WIND or 3rd Phase of Element Water. With all its NON PHYSICAL PROPERTIES that no one really understands other than Whitelightningwizard and MerLynn the Wizard.
Apparently
Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.10.15, 23:49:30
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.15, 21:31:36
What properties does the counterpart have in this analogy?
First one needs to understand the Magnetic Properties of WIND...
You are deflecting and still have not answered my question.
Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.10.15, 23:49:30
There are NO Chemical reactions only Magnetic Interactions. There are NO Chemical compositions only Frequencies of Light with defined 'fields'
You just discounted the entire field of chemistry.
This has a name: esoterica
It is a well known technique for derailing the scientific debate, research and experimentation, which is the mission of this forum.
I am not falling for it and I am not interested in going down that path with you.
@Peterae, Chet: This is the mechanism by which the overunity.com forum has deteriorated to what it is today.
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.15, 23:32:34
Hi.
We only have meters for opposites, we can't measure equals.
Haven't you heard of the Wheatstone Bridge?
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.16, 08:02:51
This is false.
Current science has no problems measuring scalar quantities. Barometers and thermometers are examples of such meters.
Apparently
First one needs to understand the Magnetic Properties of WIND...
You are deflecting and still have not answered my question.
You just discounted the entire field of chemistry.
This has a name: esoterica
It is a well known technique for derailing the scientific debate, research and experimentation, which is the mission of this forum.
I am not falling for it and I am not interested in going down that path with you.
@Peterae, Chet: This is the mechanism by which the overunity.com forum has deteriorated to what it is today.
Even if I don't agree completely with Merlyn, I have to say that some truth is hidden in his theories and I don't think is right to dismiss entirely the role of vibrations and their frequency even for a chemical reaction. Please see the vibrations of graphene on a metal plate that generates electricity. Also see patent of Arie deGeus with 4 transformations to obtain electricity and potassium from transmutation in a chemical reaction.
Quote from: Paul-R on 2023.10.16, 09:20:23
Haven't you heard of the Wheatstone Bridge?
yup.
You missed my point, even in a bridge configuration, we still only see 'half' of what we term electricity.
The Wheatstone only tells us some missing property like resistance, inductance, capacitance, etc..
it doesn't tell you how many flows there are in an electric current !! it literally can't !
Every electric current is an OCTAVE wave, meaning there are 8 flows of harmonic vibrations within just one current. Even DC.
Ed Leedskalnin found the 2 flows on the outer surface of the wire, and concluded one flow goes against the other. He missed the other 3 pairs as no meters exist for them.
Food for thought. O0
Cheers,wlw
wlw
Are you fishing for investors?
Are you trying to sincerely teach ?
Or ?
IMO
Been too many years to continue to play " I know something you don't know"
you wrote at Stefan's about having invested much into this
quote
"too much to just give it away"
End quote
At the end of the day , the only valid claims are those which can be replicated independently by others!
Many have claims ..( see most recently Holcomb ( many lawsuits etc))
Also as of this moment , our planet does seem to be going through some unusual changes, faster than previously thought ,
Especially in your part of the world...southern ocean Antarctica region
Are we selling timeshares on the titanic?
Or actual helpful solutions to prevent that ?
Sincerely
Chet
Hi Chet!
Don't need investors, thnx. am not fishing. nor am esoteric disinfo agent.
I am here to support MerLynn.
The task of RE-education is MONUMENTAL. I know what it takes (and can sympathize).
So I offer help where I can. No, I can't just give it away srry.
I take my cues from Don, Zilano, Joe, Tesla... they didn't spoon feed answers.
They told where to look, for more insight and to determine truth for oneself!!! O0
All that is required is an OPEN circuit MIND.
Cheers,
wlw
Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.10.16, 13:39:21
Every electric current is an OCTAVE wave, meaning there are 8 flows of harmonic vibrations within just one current. Even DC.
What is the evidence for this belief?
This has a name: esoterica
In 2004 I bought a Thoroughbred horse from the Yearling Sales for 8000 (the av price was 60k)
I consulted google to know which end of the horse to inspect before buying as I knew nothing about horses.
I flipped through the 300 page catalogue and INTUITIVELY marked about 5 pages and handed it to the Trainer who was my bidder for the day. "These are the ones you bid on". I put my money where my mouth is. (or where God's Esoteric or Mysterious Ways tells me to)
From May til Oct 26th 2004 we Bathed the Horse with the Scalar Non Hertzian energy device and treated the horse everyday until its Maiden run at the Most Prestigious Course in Australia Royal Randwick in Sydney for a Saturday event. My first horse in its first Maiden race against 2 of Emirates Park best yearlings as well as a dozen other horses. It was the First Day of Spring Carnival and it wasnt an ordinary race it was the Tattersals Plate. A feature Race. Odds of 140 to 1. We came home with near 70k in winnings and offers from Hong Kong to buy the Horse. We named its Foal "Esoterica" which means Hidden Science.
Not only can I make Scalar energy, even whitelightningwizard can do it every day of the week.
Perhaps Hidden Science is why OUR has failed to build anything thats viable. Burning books or 'theories' by giving it a label like 'esoterica' might be why critics fail to achieve their goals.
Teslas Science has been hidden from you on purpose. Alchemy was jewed into Chemistry and perverted to keep the Masses ignorant and clearly its working.
Joe once asked for the Halbach magnets, being a bit pricey I never got around to ordering them. He was disappointed as he then explained how to make this 'mono pole' array actually over unity. Nearly every single design thats on this site Joe has looked at. Some he goes down to his shed and builds. Why does Joe succeed and others fail? Does Joe use a NEW SCIENCE BASE as his reverse engineering principles? No one cares as clearly its esoterica and we cant have that.
You may not like 'esoterica' but to make any of these designs work you need NEW Science Theories and this includes the Atomic Structure or Chemistry. Take it or leave it, Either way, after trying to get people interested in building a Samsung motor all I got was the baghdad battery was a super conductor. The Esoterica is the Operating Procedure that Tesla knew and so do the designers of Smart Drive washing machine motors.
My Hocus Pokus works, Your chemistry and electron theory clearly isnt working. The task is Monumental. The Dogma is strong with some.
over 3 decades of research into Cold Fusion and Chemistry and Physics, have failed to reproduce Over Unity ENERGY in ANY format that doesnt come with Negative comments.
When ever I begin to write more IP on any forum and this forum has gotten some of the best of what I have provided, I hear this voice inside my head, reminding me about Pearls of Wisdom and who you are casting before.
Having freely and without patents, given the world a Scalar, Neutral Centre Energy Device for over unity production (its in the esoteric descriptions on how to extract this) All I got in return is Chemistry or physics dont work that way. So they reversed engineered this GIFT from God, with ions and electrons and pH meters and sell equipment that actually Kills horses rather than making them Champions.
And now accusations are leveled if we feel RESERVED about giving away Esoteric Operating procedures to Scalar Energies.
So let me repeat. Hypercharge water with a Field Generation device. Once the water is Magnetic, it will exhibit over unity energy in several ways. You can be healed by it or you can drop a 'collector' in the water to Vibrate and deliver 2 polarities from the wires connecting to the Collector. The best collector is an old radio tuner. Joes used the Generator as the Collector. The Meter youse all place so much importance on, will NOT measure anything from the 2 wires lighting up a bulb. You cant meter it. You can only use it. In fact the action of connecting a multi meter actually STOPS dead cold any 'output'. You will kill the experiment by trying to measure it. You will declare Magnetic Water a Hoax. Ive heard it all before. Youse cant think outside the box, You have NO IDEA what Non Physical Phenomena is and Tesla considered this study to be PARAMOUNT to any understandings of 'electricity'. Non Physical is HIDDEN or ESOTERIC in Nature. Explaining Non Physical to over educated Bolsheviks hell bent on satanic enslavement Treaties to Trust the Science was never going to be easy.
but even after this post I doubt if anyone other than whitelightningwizard gets it.
"where is the evidence for this BELIEF" The words used, tell the story that its not factual but only a belief. Such a closed minded question.
Everything Vibrates. Even a Piano. Vibrations have SCALES. Scales are also known as OCTAVES. Scalar energy has NONE and thats why its different and thats why METER HEADS (similar to Petrol heads and cars) cant find it or know anything about it yet I use it every day for fun and profit.
Joe's Esoteric works.
My Esoteric Works
Walter Russell clearly has hidden or Esoteric Knowledge and if you want to fly to the Heavens, its best to learn the Physics of Heaven and Earth. Not mans understanding of same where we still debate about its Flatness and other electron theories.
We are not looking for Shekel investors. We are looking for Esoteric Partners and that eliminates the jewry and other Bolshevik Indoctrinates.
If you understand our Esoteric Pearls of Wisdom, no shekels are needed.
If you understand our Esoteric Operating Procedures no schematics or diagrams are needed.
The Universe is Mental. The Mind is ALL and can effect ALL. Its how real Physics works. Much to the disbelief of Over Unity Research Believers.
@wlw, the orientation of the Magnets to make the magical Scalar Energy from the Samsung Motor must involve the placement of the North Poles in relation to each other. Its North Pole Magnetism thats Over Unity. South Pole is Explosive and we require the Implosion forces or Compression Forces of Walter Russell. We want the North Pole Fields ONLY to be activated by the spinning coils. (there's the Esoteric Knowledge of Magnetism but apparently its only a 'belief'.)
I once built a Ring Magnet set that spun all by itself. It had a ring magnet with a large ball bearing in its centre and if a ring of Magnets was lowered upon it it would spin forever. Now Joe can SEE the North Pole of any magnet (or object like a stainless steel tube) I took the block magnets and placed them near a compass and aligned all the 4 Fields. Joe asked me in a funny sort of way... "did you align these Magnets"? I believe he didnt think I aligned them first. He was surprised that anyone would do this. he said you have discovered why the Planets Spin.
So yes. Perpetual Magnetic Motion is possible because I have done it. I could take this further and waste shekels on a patent but it was MY intuitive Esoteric Knowledge that allowed me to make this design work where many others failed. NON PHYSICAL PHENOMENA. Hidden or Esoteric Science. Just a couple weeks of playing you will learn more than all your previous schoolings.
Eventually I will get old and tired of trying to teach the Esoteric Nature of this Mental Universe and may just dump it all before Bio WW3 ends with Earth Changes. It will be understood by the next generation because they are no longer indoctrinating them with fake science. They will also be anti vaxxers and purebloods with a working Pineal Gland and have Critical thinking skills not found in the Fluoridated and vaxxed.
Quote from: Paul-R on 2023.10.16, 22:21:52
What is the evidence for this belief?
This effect can be observed in any self resonant bucking coil when their length of wire match the source of signal
Quote from: Classic on 2023.10.17, 09:16:25
This effect can be observed in any self resonant bucking coil when their length of wire match the source of signal
Nah. He wrote "
Every electric current is an OCTAVE wave ...even DC" which cannot be observed in a "resonant bucking coil" because in the 3D space/1D time of our daily experience, DC does not manifest itself as a wave.
He also wrote that "
there are 8 flows of harmonic vibrations within just one current,...even DC" which also cannot be observed in a "resonant bucking coil" because in the 3D space/1D time of our daily experience, current is no more than 1 unidirectional (on average) flow of charges.
In 3D space/3D time the geometries are different and directions ambiguous but that is not an usual consideration by any means and cannot be observed in a "resonant bucking coil" of our headset, which does not even resonate with DC.
With guys like that, I'd have to analyze every meaning of every of his word, because the meanings are often redefined without prior definition and I would have to tediously analyze the grammatical structure word by word to decipher what he means, with no beneficial effects except finding contradictions and wasting my time, which might be the entire point of the exercise.
So, no I will not fall for it and engage with him, but I will support other members (like Paul) that choose to debate him. If he comes to one of the experimental threads where I am active and starts spewing esoterical stuff there, I will lobby to restrict his write access there.
I do not want O.U.R. to end up like overunity.com.
@verpies " I will not fall for it an engage with him" yes to understand every word you will need to analyze Walter Russell and learn its not chemistry, as it is clearly Esoteric Science gifted to Walter from the Universal Consciousness.
The difference between Alchemy and Chemistry.
Chemistry is where the Atomic Structure is a Marble construct and chemical reactions are where these Marbles are added or change places to give new products.
Alchemy is to control the Life Force Essence of the Magnetic Field Construct to transmute according to ones Bio Magnetic Will Power.
Examples of chemistry include Iron is smelted and more chromium marbles added to made steel 'stainless' etc
Alchemy is where blood and fingernails are added to iron at Full Moons so as the Iron Blade Vibrates when the owner of the steel blade picks it up and can cut stone and anvils like butter. You know... like magic.
OR... The Iron Washer is "WILLED" to use magnetic Bio Forces to transmute Salt water into Fresh in an In Line Magnetic Cell. seen here...
https://rumble.com/vhrdlh-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh..html and its real Magic using Magnetics.
Now you can call it Fake all you want, but you cant do it and neither can anyone else do it unless Joe or I or Whitelightningwizaed actually instructs you how to assemble these washers between 2 same poles. Neither can you make Radiant or Scalar Energy from the zero point. All you can do is spin magnets and alternators and coils and test with multimeters or any other variation of reverse engineering of others inventions. If I was wrong... you wouldnt be here.
There are 4 Phases to 'energy' where energy is thought of as Frequency and vibration (Tesla's instructions) We all know of Pos and Neg or as WhiteLightningWizard says Compression and Expansion and then the intermediary phases. WLW can explain how to get these other phases from a couple car batteries and its something you Verpies have never heard of and that doesnt make it fake either. But for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction making 8 types of 'energy'. Each time one is isolated, it springs 2 more 'phases'. Giving a total of 16 'kinds' of 'energy' just like the 49er Gold Panners found the same size gold particles 16 river bends downstream. Study nature not Marble textbooks. Nature is ENTIRELY Esoteric in nature as you understand NAUGHT its Mysteries and Hidden aspects. You need to get out more.
Joe has a 4 Way Cell that can electrically manifest these 4 phases and each phase has 4 more 'distinct actions'. Making 16 in total.
You can see the 2 MOST Profound of these Phases here... https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html
"I will lobby to restrict his write access" you dont have to sound so excited to be able to ban and book burn. You are trying to pick a fight by e-slapping pre-emptively. Just exactly what is your beef with Esoteric Studies applied to Tesla Science, John Keely Science, Victor Schauberger et al ?
Joe, WLW and Myself all use Esoteric, Hidden or Non physical Energies in ALL our devices. If you use 'electricity' to Boil water, you to are using the Esoteric Nature or hidden nature of spinning magnets which is Vibrations and Frequency but you avoid hidden or Esoteric by inventing 'electrons' or believing the Electric Universe Lie about them.
Electrolysis is Chemistry. Magnetic Fields are Alchemy and Esoteric in Nature because you Verpies have not spent one second understanding magnetics in any fashion like wlw and I have presented and try to claim the high moral ground that these are fake findings we present by pigeon holing us with the term ESOTERIC like it means anti semitic or is racist or some such nonsense. You bolshevik educated name callers are all the same. You do NOT want to understand that which conflicts with your programming. You cannot refute the science we present cause youve already stated it would be a waste of your ever so precious time. Your closed mind is open for all to see.
Really members have 2 options, Question and Learn or ignore that which doesnt interest you. Not threaten e-slapping. Its childish.
This is how your wish of "I do not want O.U.R. to end up like overunity.com" will be granted.
I would much prefer to have a Bench where these Esoteric Principles can be experimented with. And Verpies you are welcome to ask thought provoking questions. Or you dont have to participate. Free Choice.
"So, no I will not fall for it an engage with him, but I will support other members (like Paul) that choose to debate him"
How to engage and name call by not engaging.... This is double talk or double think or as my Cherokee ancestors said speak with Forked tongue.
attached is the Perpetual Spinning Magnet on a ball bearing. one of the straps broke and needs to be rebuilt. I built it to be able to ask Joe what it is I am seeing, not for Video mass debunking click baits. The only way to learn esoteric Magnetic phenomena is to try it. You will learn NOTHING by replicating that which clearly you cant at this time even if you succeed. It appears the minimizing of shekel spending is the main priority here.
the other pic is the ESOTERIC nature of the Bio Magnetic Flow Chart of Energy within the Human Body. To be able to Heal and Treat Disease with a Car Battery like Joe, wlw and myself do and have done with 1000's, actually MILLIONS of people, you need to understand this Esoteric Knowledge in this Electric Universe. And Billions of people believe this Esoteric Knowledge.
I hope to run courses in Albuquerque next Aug.
Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.10.18, 00:05:30
...attached is the Perpetual Spinning Magnet on a ball bearing.
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1072.0;attach=49406)
I've done this experiment 30 years ago. It really spins but only if held by a human hand that makes micro correcting motions. This is how our muscles and nervous system work to keep something seemingly steady - not bio magnetic energy.
It
does not work if held with a mechanical holder.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.18, 00:16:24
I've done this experiment 30 years ago. It really spins but only if held by a human hand that makes micro correcting motions. This is how our muscles and nervous system works to keep something seemingly steady.
It does not work if held with a mechanical holder.
How did you align the magnets in the Ring or their Field Orientation?
Which Pole of the ball magnet did you have facing the Ring?
What materials (conductors of magnetic energy) did you use?
or didnt you know about the esoteric nature of Field Science interactions?
I just can't ignore a short pointed question :(
I don't remember everything, it was 30 yeas ago, I remember a little that it was tested on a pane of glass and I played with it for several days and with ceramic magnets magnetized axially and radially. So knowing myself I tried all orientations possible.
Show us a video of it working while not being held by a hand, and I will talk to you more about it.
Here we have an excellent example of how Over Unity Research works.
Someone presents a video or patent of some working apparatus.
Highly educated Marble Theorists try to duplicate and join many discussion boards to figure out how it was done.
Lacking in the Intellectual Property about which the apparatus is constructed or newly revealed science principles presented as esoteric, replication fails and clearly I have proven it doesnt work.
and on to the next newest thing.
about that needing hands to preform..... I hadnt thought about that.
In the Egely Wheel one can make the disc rotate in either direction depending upon which way one holds one's hands when activating this VITAL BIO MAGNETIC FORCE Field.
So you may have a point but the direction and the possibility of spin depends upon the orientation of the entire Field of the device and the Hands may (the Y effect) influence this. So you proved the Y effect which is Reichs Esoteric Knowledge without even knowing it.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.18, 00:26:05
I just can't ignore a short pointed question :(
I don't remember everything, it was 30 yeas ago, I remember a little that it was on a pane of glass and I played with it for several days and with ceramic magnets magnetized axially and radially. So knowing myself I tried all orientations possible.
Show us a video of it working while not being held by a hand, and I will talk to you more about it.
You dd NOT try all orientations... Try to be honest at least.
All you remember is you couldnt figure it out to make it 'perpetual'.
Construction IP is why all JoeCell replicators failed...
You know not the construction IP and would remember orientating all the ring magnets if you actually did it and JUST HOW DID YOU ORIENTATE THEM? claiming senility after 30 years will not suffice to win this debate you so eagerly joined.