This morning, I came across a very simple AC motor - AC generator set + cap and load, which is shown or claimed to be self-running.
Can it be this simple? I don't think so, but would like to know.
Comments?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCbZ3CRWx7I&feature=channel&list=UL
The units look identical - and they haven't spent much. I reckon that they
are the fan motors from microwave ovens.
My money goes on "hoax".
Of course it could be a hoax... but experiments can sort this out.
Below, detail on the 220-V AC motor is shown as well as detail on the 240-V AC generator.
Can we find out where these are available for purchase? This would be easy to replicate IMO, compared to some devices we've seen!
I found the motor on German-ebay. Appears to be a fan-motor from a microwave oven. For a couple of Euros...
But I haven't found the 240V AC generator yet... unless it is actually the same fan-motor driven as an AC generator... Would that work?
Quote from: DeepCut on 2012.11.15, 16:07:31
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Motor-Generator_Self-Looped_with_Usable_Energy_Left_Over
DC.
Very useful, thanks DC.
From that article:
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Karl Palsness' Theory
I had a chat yesterday with Karl Palsness, who is an expert on Tesla technology. He has also heard of several cases like this, all independent from one another.
"I know exactly what you're talking about. I've done a lot of work in that area. That's amazing. I've heard this from so many people now, that this works.
"From what has been observed, you're playing with the phasing angles between the motor and the generator, and when the phasing angles are out of phase, you're getting into what is called 'power factor'. When you get the power factor right, the current and voltage are out of phase, and when you get them meshed up enough, it actually self-runs and produces excess energy.
"This theory is based on magnetic flux. Permanent magnets or electromagnets such as in a generator or a motor, under certain conditions, give overunity (OU) behavior. But there's more to it than that, from what I've seen myself in overunity devices. It is all about geometry of the system. How and where a permanent magnet gets it's energy, is still a very big mystery to science. Excess energy can appear in electromagnets, as well.
"I've seen this effect on generators. When you have a generator that's turning too big of a load, and you have big enough breakers to handle the current, the currents go way up. Imagine if you have 500 Volts at 1 Amp; you have 500 Watts. Or you can have 500 Amps with one Volt; and you have 500 Watts. So when you get huge amps and low voltages in between the phasing angles, the current and magnetic fields are so collapsing and rising, and the phase angles are 'wrong', I believe that the magnetic field is coupling with, I'd have to say the word: 'The Vacuum'. In other words, it's coupling with an unknown -- whatever makes the permanent magnet work. We truly don't understand the science of that. There are a lot of theories, but no proof yet. Permanent magnets are still one of those unknowns, as to why it does what it does. And that's the same thing with electromagnets. There are a lot of unknowns.
"So when we kept playing with the power factors and phase angles, I believe there is overunity. I've seen it so many times now, with so many different people, that if I had the money, I would go out and buy the parts to do the testing in this area myself.
"Remember that guy [...confidential / U.S....]. He's doing the same thing. He has a small motor turning a big generator, and it's out of phase, and the power factor is out. There's a guy in South Africa that's doing the same thing. He's got a motor connected to a bigger generator, and it's doing the same thing. There's a guy in South America, (the blind guy from welding) (Force Multiplier System). He had a motor turning a generator, via shaky gear connection. That's doing the same thing.
"There are a lot of people claiming this. It's getting to the point that there are so many people claiming it, that are unrelated to one another, that I'd have to say that it holds a lot of potential.
"And I have a theory behind it. I actually wrote a whole chapter on that in my book about the science of how to do it in a much more elegant method than they are doing it now, based on what they are doing right now. The problem is, I don't have the funds to do it. That book is my research journal, and I don't have plans at the current time on publishing it – my notes as you work every day. I've got a lot of time and money into that. If what they are doing indeed works, I believe it can take it to the next level and make it a much better product and bring it to market. At the current time, I don't want to give that idea out, as it is still just an unproven theory of a way that might work. I'd like to bring it to fruition in the future if I can prove it works."
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Quote from: PhysicsProf
I found the motor on German-ebay. Appears to be a fan-motor
from a microwave oven. For a couple of Euros...
But I haven't found the 240V AC generator yet... unless it is
actually the same fan-motor driven as an AC generator...
Would that work?
Probably not. While induction motors can be made
to operate as AC Generators at sufficiently high rpms
with capacitance across the line to provide excitation;
at low rpms they produce nothing.
It looks to be a very clever hoax.
As soon as I heard the voice I knew for a fact it is a fake because it is the same guy who faked the power strip plugged into itself. Remember the voice. ;)
You tube should ban these guys. They lie and make clearly false claims. People who continuously lie to other people need to see some kind of consequences.
A motor can't power a generator and produce extra energy, if Karl Palsness says this is possible he is no expert on anything except being a yes man. He needs to have Peswiki
print a retraction or look like a fool.
Cheers
Quote from: Farmhand on 2012.11.15, 23:21:31
As soon as I heard the voice I knew for a fact it is a fake because it is the same guy who faked the power strip plugged into itself. Remember the voice. ;)
You tube should ban these guys. They lie and make clearly false claims.
...
The problem is less the liars than the idiots who want to believe in anything in matter of free energy and make the buzz around. The former exist to satisfy the latter, question of supply and demand. In our domain, the success of the liars is a sub-product emerging from the irrational and not skeptic attitudes of others.
I've played with a number of these type of motors from microwave ovens. There is no way it could generate power like that. I'm 99.99999% sure it's fake. If it was real he could have put it on a piece of wood or something and picked it up. Ask him to video under the table where it sits or put it on a thin piece of wood or plastic and hold it in the air. Most likely it's either directly spun from another motor under the table or wired up to power under the table. I believe a lot of stuff but this one screams fake to me. Used microwave ovens are cheap and have lots of good components if anyone wants to try it.
Aye, you've made a good case.
Another give-away feature is the
use of a rubber band for coupling
the two units.
The "truth" is in the details...
As the 2 units sat touching side by side I couldn't help wondering about the Bearden MEG process.
fake, wire X spotted. :)
Or abandon Lenz altogether. It takes too much defending. lol
Ah, imagine life without Lenz' law:
when we induce a current into a wire, we would not know the polarity, which is what lenz's law is all about. So, if we don't know, we assume its unknowable a priory, so not deterministic, hence a random variable. One moment i could get a back emf and the next a forward emf. what a mess, the world would be all messed up. :)
They are shaded pole motors,which will not act like a generator or altinator-or produce any power at all.You could ofcourse drill a couple of 1/2 inch holes in the rotor at 180* to each other,and place one north out and one south out magnet in the hole's-and then you have a generator.
Quote from: PhysicsProf on 2012.11.15, 14:52:15
This morning, I came across a very simple AC motor - AC generator set + cap and load, which is shown or claimed to be self-running.
Can it be this simple? I don't think so, but would like to know.
Comments?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCbZ3CRWx7I&feature=channel&list=UL
The word "rotoverter" came to my mind at once.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Rotoverter
This thing isn't even that. Perpetual motion?
--Lee