OverUnity Research

Resonance Energy Methods Document
[pdf]http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf[/pdf]


Chapter 3 page 22
[pdf]http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter3.pdf[/pdf]


Don Smith Free Energy Video Link
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/

Don's Reference to Tables and Formula
http://www.overunityresearch.com/Ref/Chapter1HandbookTablesFormulas.zip

Here are the Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium videos!  
Part 1


Part 2


Part 3


Part 4


Part 5


Part 6


Part 7


Part 8


Part 9


Part 10


Part 11


Part 12


Part 13


Part 14


Part 15


Part 16


Part 17


Part 18


Part 19



Don Smith's Interview and Workshop

Part1



Part2



Part3



Part4



Part5

Hi Stewart
Thanks for those links i will place them up in the main document

Peter

Quote from: Peterae on 2009.12.13, 19:31:11
Hi Stewart
Thanks for those links i will place them up in the main document

Peter

Everything seems to be almost done!  So far I really like the navigation.  I guess you can delete my post if it is going to be main document.  I have never seen these videos and so far they have been pretty revealing.   Anyway should I use the shout feature to talk to you guys?  Also one thing that I noticed earlier was that I couldn't PM?  I may have have over looked something or maybe this feature is not set up yet!!!

Hi Stprue,

Good to see you here.

Quote from: Fraser on 2009.12.14, 21:04:54
Hi Stprue,

Good to see you here.

I'm glad to be here!  actually just finished an experiment with my resonant induction coils!  I have been working slow though due to the fact my DMM died! The good news is that my brand new RIGOL oscope will be with me for the holidays along with some fuses  :D  Anyways I'm glad to be working with you guys so thanks for the initial invite.

P.S What happened to the Shout feature???

~Stew

Hi stprue

Great to hear the scope will be with you soon, i recently bought a 200Mhz pc based scope as well which is so much better than my old owon, we just have to be careful with this high voltage stuff that we don't do damage.
You have been doing some great build work, it would be great to see some pictures, i know you had a Hairpin which was amazing.

Peter

Yes Stew, be CAREFUL with your new scope around HV stuff my friend!

I know it would ruin my christmas if I zapped my scope. The rules I use with HV devices are:

When HV is on I only use scope probe as a sniffer antenna, a few feet away on the bench.

I only probe the device when the HV supply is off and all caps have been shorted with a copper brush (large guage stranded wire spread into nice brush taped to end of plastic rod.)

Left hand in pocket or at least hook left thumb into pocket when adjusting a live HV device or discharging HV caps.

@Peter I also have one of those USB DSO, I use it for the spectrum analyser function, mine has a "hantek" badge on it, capable of 150 million samples per second so useable bandwidth of 75MHz. The probes that came with it are really nicely made. Love the ease of getting screen grabs of data.

Thank you for the info's guys!  Don't worry  only sniffing and low voltage for my scope.  I have reworked the hairpin into something else...not finished yet.  I want to test the circuit like Don does  ie with a center tapped coil!  I also want to learn how to change frequency, electromagnetic induction/resonance and oh yah...how to use my new scope.  I figure I will be working with basics for a while as I don't have a lot of time anyways.

Hi Fraser
Hantek seem to be the best ones around i bought the best i could and it has lots of functions for the price, i couldn't buy a bench scope anywhere near the spec of it.

Peter

here.

Hi GK,

Good to see you here my man!

I will also be purchasing an LRC meter very soon!  I have been looking around and  the

Extech 380193 Passive Component LCR Meter looks to be pretty good.  Any advice?

Hi Stew.

Yeah, that meter looks pretty much the same as the one Peter and I bought, the Tonghui TH2821A, about $200.

Make sure the Extec has a 10kHz setting for better resolution.

.99

Stew,

OK, I checked the specs of the Extech, and the Tonghui TH2821A is a much better meter for the same money, or perhaps $50 more.

.99

Thanks for the advice Poynt! 

I was actually looking at that LCR meter but I read a few reviews that said cheap and flimsy body/stand, really bad battery life!  I did see it on ebay new for like 100-150$

This is one of the reviews I was talking about!

2.0 out of 5 stars  Made in China, December 7, 2009
By    Junkfighter - See all my reviews
This instrument is being touted as a portable device equipped with a NiMH 9V rechargeable battery.
In a sense, it is portable... if you don't mind having the meter permanently connected to ac line... for you won't be able to charge the battery.
'Kind of defeats the purpose of portability.
The manufacturer knows about the problem and will try to convince you otherwise by including errata in the Operation Manual, which states: "The battery will be charged when the meter is power-on by using DC adaptor power supply". Don't believe it.
I have checked two new BR2822 and both suffered from the same problem: no battery charge.

If one attempts to operate the meter off-battery juice anyway, then there is another feature lurking behind the twisted bends of the software code:
The instrument shuts down every 5 minutes or so, regardless, whether it is being used or not. Imagine pressing the power button some 12-times an hour WHILE you keep working on your project.

Customer support is non-existent: you won't hear a word either from the local US distributor Kaito Electronics or from polite (mum) MCPCH headquarters in Shanghai.

The case is made of a low-grade, cheaply finished plastic, and it shows.
The back recliner stand flexes easily even upon very modest force exerted on the push-buttons.
Perhaps, to compensate for the excessive flexing of the stand, the included Kelvin leads are stiff, making the work with small components rather awkward.
There is a large infra-red window on the top side of the enclosure despite none of the models having any IR communications capabilities.

If you don't mind the permanent umbilical ac cord or listed idiosyncrasies, the meter does the job: comparison with a new, calibrated Protek Z9218 instrument confirmed accuracy of the BR2822.

There is another look-alike model TH2821A having similar specs to BR2822 but made by Chongzhou Tonghui Electronics, or whoever the true OEM of both meters is.

Quote from: Peterae on 2009.12.08, 16:43:46
Chapter 3 page 22
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter3.pdf

See page 3-14

This is from US Patent  3781601 and deserves further study.

Notice the tungsten electrodes, and read what he says about the dielectric inside the outer case.

see column 5, lines 35 thru 45

interesting

EDIT: corrected the patent number

Hi Grumpy

It's great to see your name again on Posts.

I have seen this device before, i wonder if anyone has tried a replication, it maybe something i will try at some point in the future.
Thanks for bringing it up, very interesting.

Peter

Quote from: Peterae on 2009.12.17, 09:26:05
Hi Grumpy

It's great to see your name again on Posts.

I have seen this device before, i wonder if anyone has tried a replication, it maybe something i will try at some point in the future.
Thanks for bringing it up, very interesting.

Peter

The quartz will not block the UV.   I wonder what else comes with that?

EDIT: a similar patent is 4260933 by Jerry Volland

Looking for a straight Xenon Tube, but he says that any ionizable gas and mercury or sodium vapor can be used - this means that just about any arc lamp or gas bulb can be used including neon bulbs and the mercury and sodium lamps in my shop.  Recall that Dollard used an argon bulb in his Tesla transmitter demonstration in place of the top metallic terminal.

He says you can use oil or purified water as the dielectric, an also a solid such as ceramic with "small molecules".  Knowing that some fo the polymers with large molecules are good at shielding "certian things", this reference to small molecules composing the dielectric may indicate that "cartain things" are not shielded by these dielectrics.  Anyone around he a dielectric expert?

EDIT:
in gases polarization goes up with molecular weight, so Xenon has a much higher polarization than neon

Does anyone see where this is going?  Come on, think out of the box for a few minutes.

So what are we saying grumpy? Produce some high energy discharges (in the abnormal glow discharge region) and somehow downconvert emmisions outside the quartz envelope? Would one have to break the glass to get to the quartz envelope or will the glass pass the good stuff too? I'm asking because I have a couple of mercury bulbs on hand.

(I need this lamp stuff moved to my bench)

Quote from: Fraser on 2009.12.17, 18:56:06
So what are we saying grumpy? Produce some high energy discharges (in the abnormal glow discharge region) and somehow downconvert emmisions outside the quartz envelope? Would one have to break the glass to get to the quartz envelope or will the glass pass the good stuff too? I'm asking because I have a couple of mercury bulbs on hand.

Yes.  I have some mercury, sodium, and metal hydride lamps and I think you'll need to break the glass to get closer to the quartz tube.  Do not look at a lit bulb without glass as the UV is nasty.  Per the patent, you need the capacitive caps on each end as well as the outer can (which forms a cap with the ionized gas as the other plate).

Why is the efficiency is increased when this arc-lamp-crossed-capacitor device is used in the circuit?

Pavel states that the "relative condenser" formed by the caps (30 and 32) over the electrodes (24 and 25) oscillates and the "absolute condenser" formed by the ionized gas and the metal envelope (36) reamins constant.  He adds that an oscillation is present in the "absolute condenser" if the caps (30 and 32) are removed and the efficiency is greatly reduced.  So, it appears the the "absolute condenser" is always "charged".

Does the polarizability of a gas increase with pressure?

Don Smith designed his device to resonate at 200kHz both sides, also Lester Hendershot designed his device around same frequency.
Does anybody know, what is so special about 200kHz?

Hi mlurye,

Where did you get the 200khz spec??

Hi darkspeed,
I just calculated resonance frequency.
L1 ~3uH, C1 ~0.2 uF, f=205468.1480205 Hz
L2 ~13uH, C2 ~0.047uF, f=203610.198131824Hz

Hi mlurye,

Thanks

I did not know that the inductance of L1  -   L2A  -   L2B had been established..

Is the 13uh the total inductance of L2A and L2B as one coil?

Where did you find this?

Thanks!

It's based on my build. ~13uH is for L2A.

Ah.. Ok cool

Based on http://www.rmcybernetics.com/projects/DIY_Devices/homemade_tesla_coil_tuner.htm I verified (tested)  f(L1 C1)=f(L2 C2)=200kHz for coils and caps i have.

mlurye, I always though there was a cap missing from dons setup across the entire L2 to establish a harmonic, maybe 1/4 wave


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Darkseed,

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But Don mentioned that 1 cap is enough.

Now I need to figure out what spark gap to use.

Three or four of these in series should work... 600v each

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250097478658&

darkspeed,
I'm not sure how it will work with 4 600V arestors, if I'm having problem to make it work with 1 500V.

Anybody can give me some good advice on how to tune spark gap to oscillate at 200kHz. NST I'm using is 3KV with center tap, so working voltage is 1.5kV.

I was playing with device and just little thing I noticed. If you'll move cap on other side of spark gap it's possible to light up a 7W 110V light bulb.

Hi Peterae

I've always found the Don Smith stuff fascinating, and I've just taken time to watch your video links. Have you ever heard the saying: 'You should never meet your hero unless you want the illusion destroyed'?

Well I feel that I can relate to that after watching the videos.

Is it just me, or in video 4 and 5 does he not simply describe the mutual inductance of transformer technology. I watched in fascination - hoping he wouldn't croak before he said something crucial -  waiting for a punchline that never came. 

Has anyone else any thoughts on this? Because I'm rather mystified by what I saw.

Which has now naturally made me a lot more sceptical about the old boy's devices than I was before I watched the videos.  Then I found the following article which has put my guard up two places from Defcon 5 to Defcon 3.

I think a little caution might be in order. 

Quote

Do you think Smith has a point? (Zero Point ?;-)
Date: Saturday, December 18, 2004 @ 23:13:20 PST
Topic: Testimonials


Bob, Doc, Peter, and everyone on the "cc" list:
This is Don Smith's TransWorld Energy site, his perception of "Resonance Energy":
http://www.altenergy-pro.com/rec.htm
Do you think Smith has a point? Does it still boil down to Zero Point?

With thanks,
Hal Ade.

Jerry Decker [Keelynet] writes: Hola Hal!

I have no problem with people saying their claims are ideas or theories, it is when they claim them as FACT or hardware that my credulity shields go up.

Smith, like so many other con artists in the field has long been playing fast and loose with facts and reality. I see BAP also on your list as he is one who also has long been making claims of discovery, invention, etc..to con people into buying his material...refer back to the original 'Cold Fission Tube' scam where he intentionally lied to and ripped off many people including myself. He has not and will not change this modus operandi.

However, back to Smith, I first met him at a Tesla Convention where he had driven up from Houston. I was with Dan Davidson and we asked him if he brought his device, he said yes, we suggested with such a long drive, that he test it to verify it works before setting up for his demonstration. He agreed, took out this platform with a nicely wound coil arrangement and claimed it easily produces 1000 watts. He 'tuned' it and nothing happened. His load was an 8 watt fluorescent tube which would not light. Don said he had to go but could WE FIX IT FOR HIM? QUE???

He left, we used a multimeter he had provided and found the laser power supply was faulty, fortunately Don had spare parts, so we hooked it into the circuit and did resistance checks on the wiring finding no open circuits.

When we tried it, still would not even light the 8 watt lamp (remember he was claiming to tap the VAN ALLEN RADIATION BELTS to produce 1000 watts)....we hooked in an LED, it didn't even light.

Didn't deter Don in the least, despite his initial humble and charming demeanor, once fans starting blowing smoke up his skirt, he morphed into claiming his 'discoveries' would change not just electronics, but all science. Total nutcase without a working device.

Over the years, he put a battery in a suitcase with an inverter, installed a 110vac outlet and plugged in an oscillating fan as his 'demo' claiming this was free energy....and on and on...years and years no of him making ever more outrageous claims....such as that he could produce 50,000 watts from this little 18 guage wire coil......

And later claiming megawatts...saying he was on the board of many 'overseas' companies who were actively manufacturing his free energy circuits and placing into products. When countenanced about WHO these companies are, contact info, product info, etc...he says its proprietary or that he doesn't have to prove anything to anybody...and on and on with rants when anyone questions anything he says...translation...a deluded loser...I think more seeking FAME than money though he was charging $2000 for his circuit which he claimed 'even Boy Scouts had built' but that no engineer or technician could even remotely understand let alone build as a working device. Right...

Ok, just doe some searches on the internet and you will find pages and posts about Smith (and BAP for that matter) with the most ludicrous claims you could imagine. The above was just my personal experience with Smith and I won't EVEN go into the smarmy dealings of the Bapster.

One thing about Smith, he does weave an interesting theory, like the idiot Al Bielek, yet none of it has been proven in hardware to my knowledge by his 'claims of success' and more CRITICALLY those of independent testers and verification. That is the main proof that the claimants of discovery/invention AVOID AT ALL COSTS...because they KNOW they are lying and that no one can make it work. Tilley is one who has cast his activities in this mold.

Now to the 'document';

...electromagnetic energy is accessed via catalytic activity - either directly, as in the case of Solar Cells, or indirectly by mechanical means.

Definition of Catalysis (catalyst);

n. pl. ca7tal7y7ses (-sz) - The action of a catalyst, especially an increase in the rate of a chemical reaction.


http://www.keelynet.com/unclass/insight.htm
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...a single Resonance Energy Device (about the size of a shoe box) produces ample energy to power itself,

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...Without specialized instrumentation it is impossible to tell resonance flux is occurring.

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...Information on the earth's magnetic flux field is available to the public from the US Geological Survey Office in Colorado, USA. When examined and properly understood these maps yield important information regarding reflection, deflection, and absorption of incoming magnetic waves and action at a distance. When properly understood, these maps yield an ambient electromagnetic flux of 7.2 billion Volts at a point of measure.

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...Flux moving into energy sinks provides the frictional force known as gravity.

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...All electromagnetic energy harvesting methods include three things: a catalyst, a collector, and a pump. Catalysts include sensitization through doping with certain elements, as well as air and earth grounding.


http://www.keelynet.com/keely/neutral1.htm
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...TransWorld Energy is bringing it to you.


www.altenergy-pro.com

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I suspect this is a very old document which has been reposted on this site. So many years later (Smith was way back in 1992 or so) and STILL no working devices available...as was BAPS claims of free energy and 'inventions/discovery', never proven, never marketed, never patented!!!

Alas, I WANT TO BELIEVE, but require proof, not just the ramblings of deluded people or known con artists out to make a buck from naive people who become confused with all the technospeak and use of buzzwords like Tesla, scalar, radiant, ZPE, suppression, conspiracy...anything that would obfuscate or be difficult/impossible to track and verify, INDEPENDENTLY, not just from their claims.

We will continue to search for a means to tap into ambient forces, whether they be gravity, electrostatics (lightning, ions), magnetic flux, zero point energy (zero point field), frequencies from space (cosmic 'energy'), etc...

But we aren't there yet....too many con artists, too many people clouding the field with bullshit, usually to scam others....and worst of all, almost no one funding any REAL research despite the huge commercial potential and the ability to resolve many of the earths current problems.

Those problems are not ONLY ecological, but also these incredibly stupid wars over control of OIL (never mind the EXCUSES of terrorism, etc..), not to mention the additional entanglements relating to religion and centuries old hostilities in which we have NO business interferring.

The sooner people begin funding real research into these areas, the sooner a Manhattan type project WILL DISCOVER a working free energy technology and ideally GIVE IT TO THE WORLD to be used, manufactured and marketed as freely as possible.

As for Smith, ask him where you can buy one of his free energy circuits/devices and get him to tell you just what it will produce in terms of power. And require a money back guarantee WHEN it doesn't work.

The proof of these con artists, despite their wondrous claims is they never have a product to sell you but man, they will be glad to sell you a franchise, stock, solicit a contribution or refer you to buy their books, CDs etc, further regurgitating their THEORY or something else that will provide them with income without the proof so many of us insist on having.

Feliz Navidad and Happy New Year (I can't write 'ano' with the correct notation, as 'ano means anus' and I'd rather not write Happy New Anus!)

Jerry Decker - http://www.keelynet.com
Public Archive http://www.escribe.com/science/keelynet
Order out of Chaos - From an Art to a Science








This article comes from ZPEnergy.com
http://www.zpenergy.com

The URL for this story is:
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1078

Yep that about sums Don up  >:(

sucks, doesn't it?

Tesla wasn't like Don.  A couple of friends started with the little kits that Dr. Stiffler sells.   I'll find the link.

http://67.76.235.52/

What's wrong with these people, eh? 

It seems you can never pursue this stuff with too much optimism... and for sure not with just blind faith.

In reality you have to go into this stuff expecting it to be fake and so prepare yourself for the almost inevitable disappointment ahead.  An open mind is all very well, but a more than average degree of sceptiicism is no bad thing around here.

That said, I love Stifflers SECs (and yes, I know that sounds a bit pervy!).

I'm planning to use Don's device as conceptual design and do whatever I can to make it work.

And now I'm back to my original question on how to get 200kHz on spark arrestor.

So far I see 3 possibilities.
In general to replace spark arrestor with HV MOSFET (highest available I've seen is 1.4 Kv) so I think I need 2 in sequence.
1. Drive MOSFET by function generator (not much flexible)
2. Use Kacher idea with back feed
3. Some kind of hybrid between 1 and 2.

So if someone can help with schema on how to implement it, I would really appreciate it. To begin with I need help with schema for 1. Drive MOSFET(2) by function generator.

I'm currently having another look at Don Smith's devices.

Though I don't particularly find Don's Videos – or indeed Don himself – very convincing, I'm now wondering if perhaps I'm missing something with reference to how his devices work.

Initially it seemed to me that what he was describing in his video's was simply standard transformer principles, but maybe I was a bit quick to jump to this conclusion. 

Without a core of any kind to contain the flux, I guess the device in the video more closely resembles a Tesla coil or an aerial, than a standard transformer.  So, unlike in a standard ferrite or iron cored transformer where the path of the magnetic flux is contained in order to provide maximum energy transfer between primary and secondary, Don's coils allow this magnetic flux to largely dissipate into the environment.

Of particular interest to me is that aerial theory seems a part of Don's primary and secondary open coil design, in that his coils are constructed in overall lengths divisible by two, perhaps indicating that magnetic flux density does not play any major part in his devices.

Surely Don's open primary coil forms a dipole into which radiant energy can flow. So is his secondary in this configuration simply tapping into that inflow of radiant energy? 

And due to the very low magnetic flux interaction between primary and secondary coils, will the primary cct even notice the presence of the secondary cct?  Hence, is the secondary actually loading the primary? 

Furthermore - and although the coils are orientated differently - in terms of magnetic flux coupling, surely Don's coils exhibit only something comparable to the recent Agentgates TPU.

I'm just trying to get my head around the physics involved, but this is not my particular area of expertise. So any input from people more experienced in this field would be very welcome.

mlurye

Here's an interesting high voltage osc and even a triode design
unfortunately it looks like it's frequency range is 500khz to 2mhz.

http://sparkbangbuzz.com/corona-osc/corona-osc.htm

Peter

Is the solid state nst on the suitcase device being used at 35khz?  70khz?

If it is half wave then the primary input would be at zero volts for part of the cycle.

The nst outputs at 35khz and it looks like each leg of the output has a diode on the output tied together and then to ground through a sparkgap.

I talked to a guy that worked for radioshack and he said that  inverter was not a sign wave inverter and then he is running it through a dimmer.

Dimmers on solid state nst's will only reduce the output 10-20% from what the nst company said..

It seems like modified wave + dimmer would be really hard on that little nst...

Im guessing the spark gap keeps the nst from going into current mode..

The solid state nst was 35khz he said in one of the videos.

I did not know if he was using a bridge on both ac outputs to get 70khz dc..

Or if not, then why not?

What is better about 35khz?

I have not seen a solid state nst with a ground lug like that.. Must have been before the age of ground fault..

Ok each output has a diode and he is dumping to the center tap ground on that solid state nst so he is using 70khz dc

D.Smith talks of frequency correction from 30KHz or maybe 200KHz as you say in the resonant coupling, to a frequency close to 60Hz for the output transformer via a resistor or capacitor. Can you give more information how this works?

   Really not the place for this but the resistor will change the LRC value of the tank that it is in. In effect changing the resonant frequency as well.
It will also play havoc with the impedance of the output too.    :-\   ???

thay

Quote from: lvildos on 2010.04.19, 16:27:33
D.Smith talks of frequency correction from 30KHz or maybe 200KHz as you say in the resonant coupling, to a frequency close to 60Hz for the output transformer via a resistor or capacitor. Can you give more information how this works?

The last video links on the first page no longer work. The Youtube user removed the videos.

This is where Don lectured using a paper whiteboard I believe.

.99

Poynt,

Are these the ones your missing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-MyoOSei0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2-MyoOSei0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUut6PmcDf8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUut6PmcDf8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1BUqMKig0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1BUqMKig0)

Anybody have a copy of the 1996 Tesla Magazine that Donald mention on video ?

that is not conventional knowledge. Conventional knowledge is that resonant frequency is given by L and C. Bandwidth is given by XL or XC and R. How do you explain the discrepancy in theory and practice?  :o

Look at relevant pictures of circular resonant tower coil setups on pgs. 3 & 8 of the manuscript in Peterae's original post.

Now look at Fig. 5 on pg. 4 of this:
U.S. Patent #6,900,557
High Power Modulator"
(This might be a good reason to look at patents for ideas and previous work that was done by others.  Just a thought.)

Look at the patent at...   http://www.pat2pdf.org

--Lee

I have posted this on the "energetic forum" in the "Don Smith" thread (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-347.html)
as i thought it was appropriate to start there as the first picture (for me) of undamped oscillations came from a Don Smith lecture.

However it stays ear deafening quiet overthere, so i am posting it now here also in an old Don Smith thread.
Perhaps i had to reveal that my testmeasurements (see video) DO show that it is possible to get an undamped oscillation (sort of) with the mentioned circuit.

The question is how to make good use of this.

Here my post as presented on the energetic forum:



I came across a picture of a negistor circuit (see below) on this forum: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2309.msg35955#msg35955

It was taken from this website from JL Naudin: http://bingofuel.online.fr/cnr/negosc.htm

It handles about negative resistors (negistors).

Following the hotlink on the Naudin website: "NDR Oscillator tests with Load" i came to this website: http://bingofuel.online.fr/cnr/ndrload.htm

which on its own has a hotlink ("About Negative Resistance Oscillators" by the University of St. Andrews) to this website: http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/RadCom/part5/page1.html

At the bottom of that website i found the picture of the 3 oscillating states which was very familiar to me as i have seen a similar picture in one of Don Smith his lectures and was published also on this forum some time ago.

So i decided to build the little circuit (negistor) and do some tests to see if i could replicate those 3 oscillating states.


Video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWUxEtUd3Ow&feature=youtu.be


Regards Itsu

Thought I would post these from over-excitement in the past.
The wave forms are similar to what ITSU had posted about.
There seems to be a number of ways to get these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5KU_DgFd8s&list=PL432CAB996A352280 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5KU_DgFd8s&list=PL432CAB996A352280)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1uicaW7Ms&list=PL432CAB996A352280 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1uicaW7Ms&list=PL432CAB996A352280)

Hello All

I post this link to stimulate the imagination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cni08WjLTcc&feature=youtu.be

I find the concept interesting in as much as the SG has been replaced by a series SiC mosfet switch, eliminating the need to rely on the broad frequency spectrum 'shotgun' effect of the SG. This technique opens up the possibility of *direct feedback* or *PLL* control of the L1 primary for frequency tracking.  Even DS didn't have that O0

Originally the video was released on the 'Sea of Energy' website in China by the user that went by the name of 'Salty Citrus'.
It was subsequently removed from the same the following month after initial publication and Salty Citrus was not heard from again.

I will let each draw their own conclusions.

take care, peace
lost_bro

lost_bro...
       The thing that stumps me is that there's no wiring schematic for this device in the video clip or elsewhere, as well.   A schematic would help to go with the video.

--Lee

Hello Lee

I was in contact with 'Salty Citrus' on the Sea of Energy forum at the time the original video was released in China.  He mentioned that this was not his groups first attempt at the D.S. replication. They had made other attempts at the replications, somewhere I have photos of one of his groups earlier machines. The earlier replications that I saw photos of used Flyback XFRMRs and S.G.s. 

What stands out in my opinion regarding this replication is the use of a H.V. Solid State switching network composed of Six Cree SiC mosfets in a series configuration. This allows precise control of the frequency(s). I will also add that I have NOT seen anyone else produce a SparkGap-less replication such as this.  His group spent some time, effort and money to get that up and running. 

It was NOT released on Youtube by his group. It was subsequently released on Youtube by myself and another by copies ripped from the original Chinese video site.  So this replication and video of such was NOT made to generate Youtube 'hits'.

He made mention that the device was not 'looped' because it was just a proof of concept and that his group next was going to expand upon the working concept to produce a larger and then self-looped version of the same. Also said that *ALL* the information needed to setup and tune the device is contained in Tesla's C.S.N.s.

Check page 3-89 in the PJK handbook PDF that I attached. It has some good information, although not complete.
I am the 'Man from Mexico' mentioned in the same article in the PJK handbook.  The information that PJK published came directly from the Chinese Forum, 'Sea of Energy' in China. 
I do have in my possession additional information. Just let me know if you are interested. Seems like most are tired of the D.S. regime after so many failed replications.

I personally believe after communicating with 'Salty Citrus' that his video does depict an actual working device (ie: working replication of D.S.).  I also find it interesting that he did not make any any overt claims of O.U., only posted the video to 'document' his groups progress.  Of course on the 'Sea of Energy' forum, it created quite a stir and not unlike Ruslan or Akula, all of a sudden there was a host of detractors and accusations.  The posted video was removed in less than 3 weeks of posting the link on the forum.  After that, 'Salty Citrus' never appeared again on the forum. Of course that was almost two years ago now, and nothing else has been heard from him or his group.

take care, peace
lost_bro

Don Smith claimed that his supply battery was kept fully charged by the setup during use, so he claimed a free energy input there.

Since we are stockpiling reference material.  Add this one to the list.  Seems pretty important and gets into the nitty-gritty of standing waves.  Surely all of Don Smith's devices are using this principal.

Concerning  lost_bro ' s  posted Reply #55, on this thread...
       Thanks, 'bro...
It really helps me to have a schematic in front of me to look at while I'm also reading descriptive material along with it from a post.   I looked at what you posted and one drawing in particular reminded me of Kapanadze's continuing efforts to try and reproduce some of Tesla's work (I believe---that's how I would look at it, anyhow.)
       J. Naudin in France has replicated a similar circuit to yours, in theory, and that one circuit can power up 1500 W.  of 50 Hz spotlight /floodlamps with no strain on the system.   I had communications of a personal nature with someone who was well-versed on electronic engineering and showed that person your post, and that individual was pleased with the design.
       This person and I have a certain security clearance, but what I gave you just now was a general opinion.   Repeating:  The Kapanedze-style circuit will give you OU---IF---it's properly tuned to resonance throughout the entire circuit.

That was what I was told.   I was given the task to compile information and that's what I'm doing.   Your circuit, in at least my opinion, has merit in its overall theory as to its efficiency.

--Lee

I'll throw in my 2 pence worth. After 5 years research I have come to the conclusion that DS was creating VAR.
The var was 100s of times greater than the input, thus enabling him to take out some energy without affecting the oscillations
which created the var in the first place.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2015.07.14, 05:08:43
I'll throw in my 2 pence worth. After 5 years research I have come to the conclusion that DS was creating VAR.
The var was 100s of times greater than the input, thus enabling him to take out some energy without affecting the oscillations
which created the var in the first place.

Bingo.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2015.07.14, 05:08:43
I'll throw in my 2 pence worth. After 5 years research I have come to the conclusion that DS was creating VAR.
The var was 100s of times greater than the input, thus enabling him to take out some energy without affecting the oscillations
which created the var in the first place.

Yes but that is a real tough one since it contradicts common sense. Taking out some energy normally equates to reducing the amplitude of the oscillation. Are you able to do it without diminishing the oscillation? I'd like to see the circuit that can, and I have seen DS circuits and the replications.....nothing in those circuits tells me they work  as claimed.

Also, getting an undamped oscillation is commonplace if you have a source of energy to top off the resistive and radiative losses. It is done every day in radios, induction heaters and transmitters etc. Doing it without a source of energy is the trick.

In a steady state or quiescent undamped oscillation the supplied energy exactly matches the losses.

In an undamped oscillation inceasing in amplitude at some rate, energy must be supplied in an increasing fashion, linearly or exponentialy.

It only contradicts common sense if the input is rigidly affected by the output.

I suspect the trick is in the output section....

Devising an Output section which produces energy
without depleting the Resonant section would be
quite a trick.  It would almost certainly mean that
the Output Energy was pulled from another source.

This feat, by the way, has been accomplished with
certain technologies under development in the
Deep Underground Military Bases with the assistance
of certain Alien species.  Inter-Dimensional energy
transfer.  Daniel Pomerleau (http://rexresearch.com/pomerleau/pomerleau2.htm) has this unique "gift"
as well.

Hello All

I wanted to share something interesting regarding the D.S. table top device.  Of course I am running the sim.s with Ltspice and using a configuration for the primary side according to the Chinese 'Salty Citrus' replication.

The first attachment is noteworthy because the waveform *apparently* demonstrates Negative Resistance, aka the 'Trumpet Waveform'.
I find this interesting because D.S. always claimed that the 'Trumpet Waveform' was an indicator/effect which is seen/necessary for his device to work.
Needless to say that the tuning to see this effect is very exact, even with Ltspice and will probably be much more difficult to tune in the real world.

The second and third attachment show an interesting effect which makes perfect sense.  A voltage produced nano-pulse (primary side) is *pushing*/exciting the Current waveform in the secondary coil.  You can see that as I change the drive frequency sub-harmonics, the succession/repetition rate of the nano-pulse changes.  The effect is the same......  nano-pulse spike from a modulated carrier wave (perfectly in sync) can excite/produce amperage on the D.S. secondary coil.

Please note that this simulation is a W.I.P. and the harmonics/sub-harmonics are close but NOT exact yet.  This requires many hours of running simulations..........

On a related side note, I am building this device as I progress with my knowledge of the mechanisms involved.  This build does NOT incorporate a spark gap as did D.S.,  I am using x6 Cree SiC mosfets wired in series (equivalent of a 7.2KV switch) for switch.  Yes, the PCB has been tested and can generate 62ns pulses up into the megahertz range (pulse width adjustable 62-100ns).

take care, peace
lost_bro

Hi lost_bro

Looks good, should be interesting to see what happens when you get it altogether.

Thanks for sharing your build, wish i had more time to do a build myself.

Cheers
Peter

Nice Sims Lost Bro, Here is the wave form I got from a Don Smith "Like" setup. I called the wave form a Swordfish because it had that look to it. What I find interesting with mine is that the bottom is drawn differently by the scope than the top, the bottom is brighter. Here is the thing there is no load, if a load is applied and power is transferred well then I think the wave form changes. I still find air core transformers interesting. But more so now I find using a DC input pulse or better still an alternating input pulse of 12 volts (not square wave necessarily) causes the secondaries to produce very nice sine waves with a relatively high voltage if tuned, can be up to 1600 volts peak to peak on one side tank, easily with well under 1 amp input and a couple of amps of current in the tank, but trying to take reliable and accurate measurements is almost impossible, I see no OU from the input compared to resistive loads dissipation ect.. 

I like the circuit you are building. The code will be interesting as would the circuit diagram.  :).

In the end I got the Swordfish to swallow his tail. hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjuE91-qXu0

P.S. I still have no bench here yet to work on.
.

Hello All

Just wanted to report another anomaly involving the D.S-Chinese replication:

The output (split secondary coil) is asymmetrical with respect to voltage wave forms between halves.  The *free wheeling* (ie: exploiting natural capacitance) side of the coil exhibits a very pronounced ability to produce negative voltage spikes. Depending on the conditions, the spikes will be on the order of KiloVolts.
Under *certain* special resonant conditions, these will be rhythmic in nature and hence repetitive/cyclic.  This -pumping action- to ground is something I have never seen before in other simulations......... I am excited to see how it functions in the real world application.  I speculate that maybe this is the ground *pumping* action reported observed by D.S.

Also noted is the *special resonance* condition of which I have attached a couple of screenshots from LTspice.
It will be noted that the wave form seems to indicate a negative resistance type condition, ie: the expanding Trumpet shaped waveform which can be seen to repeat itself over and over all the while expanding in amplitude during the simulation.
This *special resonance* condition is not Simple resonance as this system is a composite of 3 capacitances in series, parallel coupled with 2 inductors likewise in series.  I am currently trying to formulate the mathematical aspects regarding this special condition of resonance.

The primary side of the 'Salty Citrus' D.S. replication seems to function as a Frequency converter, or better said, a transmission which shifts frequencies.  Usually ones thinks of a XFRMR as a device which interconverts voltage/current .......... this primary side setup shifts frequencies so a low KHz signal can produce and sustain Multi-MHz frequencies...... a frequency modulated carrier wave.

All for now,
take care, peace
lost_bro

Good day all:

I have attached another interesting *read* from our Russian friends............
It seems to go back a few years and was recently brought to me attention by a friend, thanks Harish.

I won't go into much detail as you can read it for yourself if you are interested.  The link is to the original posting on a Russian site: http://001-lab.at.ua/index/donald_smit/0-43

The posted PDF was translated with Google, so it has the typical grammatical/syntax errors, but the idea is understandable.

I will note that there are similarities between this authors findings and that of 'Salty Citrus' from the Chinese group.  These findings do not contradict Don Smith but rather, in my opinion fill in the missing gaps that Ole' Don always hinted about but could / would never tell us directly. Frequently Don Smith admitted that he purposely omitted pertinent details.

"Abnormally high efficiency for me starts to begin at the pump pulse duration of less than 1 microsecond. The smaller the pulse width,
the greater the amplitude of the pump pulse you can apply, the higher the efficiency."  *paraphrased from attached pdf doc.*

Also wanted to update on my own progress:  https://youtu.be/3C1eSpL10j8
I have attached some photos of my *SiC_Pack_Driver_v1* pcb.  This pcb is the driver board for my SiC_Pack_v1 board, which is in essence a 7.2 KV SiC switch.

This is the first test of the SiC_Pack_Driver_v1 pcb.  After extensive testing with the magnetics of the first hand made SiC_driver board, it became apparent that in order to reach the Nano-second precision required for this project, a *real* pcb must be produced.

So we have the *SiC_Pack_Driver_v1* pcb.

As can be seen, (only testing one of the six channels of the pcb) the rise and fall times are respectable for a high speed magnetics based / isolated SiC Mosfet driver.  Actually we are at the *spec sheet* limits for the CREE C2M0080120 SiC mosfet.  Of course a digital based driver setup could easily half these speeds, but being old school I opted for the magnetics based isolation as it is pretty much bullet-proof. 

The single channel was tested to a frequency of over 1.4MHz @ pulse width of 76-78ns. The rise / fall times are 24ns / 20ns approx. with test toroid. Finished pcb will have slightly faster rise / fall times do to shorter lead length on installed toroids.

Inside information from the Chinese replication group made note of a 80ns pulse width...........

All for now.

take care, peace
lost_bro

Concerning a question from member "Utopia Now" on Overunity.com here:

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg540156/#msg540156

about where these Don Smith ilustrations come from (see also my post #51 above) i did a 5 minutes
Google search and found these ilustrations to come from the book: "Vacuum Tubes" see this link for the PDF (too big to attach the PDF here):
https://archive.org/details/Vacuum_Tubes_Karl_Spangenberg_1948/page/n595

See PDF page 595 and on for the ilustrations and more important the accompanying text.

Guess its appropriate to link the PDF here also.


Itsu

Mmm. I don't understand the equations but this certainly caught my eye.  Downloadable PDF https://mirror.thelifeofkenneth.com/lib/electronics_archive/Vacuum_Tubes_Karl_Spangenberg_1948_text.pdf

Jim,

well as i understand it, when R (resistance) in an RLC circuit gets negative (so adding energy instead of consuming it), then the signal will increase as shown.

The problem is to get this resistance to become negative, that would be the holy grail.

In G=1/Rsh,    G is conductance and Rsh is the RLC resistance.


Itsu 

Quote from: Itsu on 2019.11.11, 09:33:36
Jim,

well as i understand it, when R (resistance) in an RLC circuit gets negative (so adding energy instead of consuming it), then the signal will increase as shown.

The problem is to get this resistance to become negative, that would be the holy grail.

In G=1/Rsh,    G is conductance and Rsh is the RLC resistance.


Itsu

Yeah I thought that was the case from the diagrams. My brain has trouble with the concept of negative resistance.

Quote from: JimBoot on 2019.11.11, 11:07:55
Yeah I thought that was the case from the diagrams. My brain has trouble with the concept of negative resistance.

Even more puzzling is the concept of negative temperature. ???

Smudge

I do have a comment from an experimenter who has manifested and played with this Wave form

awaiting approval to share [I usually just pass such along but ??
also there might be another very interesting video from same contributer

and after reading the preface to the Vid [no I have not seen it yet]

It is an amazing experiment !!

sorry if I am teasing ,but I will summarize both in my own words if I have to
[just not the same as this skilled presenters writings or Oration /presentation]
awaiting approval

Note to Smudge
Manifesting cold in the environment ??

more please if possible

Quote from: JimBoot on 2019.11.11, 11:07:55
Yeah I thought that was the case from the diagrams. My brain has trouble with the concept of negative resistance.

Resistance is just impedance to DC, and impedance is derived from reactance (L and C). ;)
Negative impedance/reactance is what you really want to measure.
(sorry, there is just no way of avoiding the more painful AC math)

Negative reactance can occur when capacitance or inductance is varied with respect to time.  (This is how you would quantify the amount of energy produced in a parametric oscillator.)

Assuming a lossless circuit in the above example and with all other factors being constant, the amplitude and frequency of oscillation will increase as L or C decrease.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231003793_Parametric_resonance_in_a_linear_oscillator_at_square-wave_modulation

Then there's also the possibility I have no idea what I am talking about :P

That PDF has many references to neg resistance. I now want to source some magnetron and dynatron tubes. Or I may have a go at building one :)

Hi Jim,

there is a very simple circuit which you can use to play with negative resistance, see my post #51 above:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2.msg36020#msg36020

I played with that circuit and was able to get those 3 states, kind of, see the video there.

Itsu

Aaah thanks you. I've since read that it seems to be a non-documented feature in many 2N2222A but not all.

Hmmmm,   "a non-documented feature" he,  sounds like they deliberate made it that way then.

I thought it was a side effect of some transistors due to their specific makeup (N-P-N layers).

Thanks,    Itsu

This is interesting reading. https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/357653/oscillator-circuit-with-a-negistor I should have said "property" not "feature"

Some new information on Don Smith.  A Rick F video.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE8U-MbrGpw

Below is the transcript:
welcome to Renaissance charge videos I'm Rick fedish and today I want to talk about
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updates to what we're doing the next meeting that we're
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doing and uh miscellaneous
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items so we're going to have a meeting in Fort Worth Tex Texas right near the
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airport again not the same place a little bit better place and that will be
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on the 28th of February the last day which is Friday and Saturday March 1st
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so it will be the usual type of meeting which is very
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personal and a small number so that we can really deal with each other one
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onone and it will um be show I'll be showing a new
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motor and some new maybe demonstrations um it will be slightly
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different than normal or the usual and we'll get more
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into this uh newer school girl kit and other
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things and I will let you know more as we get closer to that date especially
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those who um register so the question is what's been
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happening why I haven't been around for a couple of years and especially the last 6 months
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or so of course very busy and
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um well for one we had a fire that burned down one of our shops it was a
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lightning storm and it wasn't my I did not own the shop otherwise I would put lightning
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rods on it and it burned down entire entirely it was a steel cage
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building and um that is a fact you can look it up you
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know our address you can see that it happened this um last
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year so um that did take up some of our time
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and it resulted in um quite a bit of changes and
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move uh we still have that address so we can still um use that
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address but we had to also restructure a lot of things it ended up being overall
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good but it's a lot of delays and a lot of time um in other words not was not a
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good experience to have but it um
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it worked out so we had to also move do a major
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move and we had to we've started the company
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over again on very similar
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uh structure or or um in other words a lot of stuff was
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falling upon me personally and now we have more staff which took training to
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get them to be able to um make the
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products and um we had to do major runs of
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everything so we would instead of doing everything out once we had to go through and make a whole bunch of one thing move
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on to the next thing this is taking us time to um get revamped so it's similar to
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what it was like in it home now um which were very good years until
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they weren't and I don't need to repeat all that
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history so also at the same time I was invited into a group of world
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Solutions solving world problems such as pollution um and andg
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energy so that was quite demanding um of
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attention and that's all I'm going to say about it it is a private
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matter so um right now we will be continuing
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operations uh full steam ahead and I have been really busy so I
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haven't been able to do the videos I haven't been able to talk about things um all
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good so it's not uh there's not any problems here
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anyway um one of the reasons why the kit the school girl kit is delayed Beyond
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those reasons is that I wanted to do just as good of a job as these three last
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productions here here so I'm going to go over them a little bit and then I'm going to
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explain um the additions to this new kit it's kind of like four major kits here
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each one of them is a book one of them is just a book and I'm going to talk about a new
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Forum that I mentioned that we want to do and explain why it's not the same as what maybe
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you're expecting um but I will be I'm looking for Purity I'm not looking for quantity
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all right quality over quantity so let's go over the kit one a
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little bit so I made this just like the early
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Forum to be a builder's kit and that was a builder Forum I'm talking about the B
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monopole groups and and other related groups there was about 10 groups that I
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started um starting with 2004 2005 I had done many
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groups um or several groups prior to that um way back before the internet yes
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I'm that old
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so I was doing um these forums or these
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um yeah online discussion groups for a long time had a lot of experience before
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I started the energy groups and so I knew kind of the the way
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they worked and their their weaknesses and uh benefits so when we came in there
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I tried to create order out of chaos everything seemed to be mostly a lot of
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chitchat and a lot of trouble and cont controversy so I started my own
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forums that worked reasonably well I moderated them for quite a while until I
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was too busy with producing the technology and running businesses um more behind the scenes in
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front of the scenes whatever so what we ended up doing is made a builder group
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where you had to build to be part of the group you had to be participating
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physically in it and that prevented a lot of these
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armchair uh people with their useless chat from wasting everybody's
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time so some didn't like that some got upset but um it went
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well and then until it didn't until it was deleted and I'm going to talk about
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bringing all that back all that history that was deleted back into this new kit
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I'll explain that in a minute so um this new Forum that we want to do
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is not exactly that but the best of that so what we're going to do all we have
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time to do all I'm interested in doing in because I am not interested in
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chitchat is a waste of time go get a job don't waste your time
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sitting around on the internet all day chitchatting okay um you know do
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something productive don't don't get sucked in that Vortex and I've watched a lot of people ruin their lives that way
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so anyway what we'll do is Lord willing will try and do a forum here very
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soon um like starting maybe by the end of this month this is January
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uh 2005 happy New Year whatever um we'll try and do a place
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we'll have provide a place which everybody can see and benefit from where
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people submit a replication of say this kit this new kit
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here or their own version of it this is what we did before I'm providing the
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kits to give an opportunity to for people to um be on the same page work
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with each other and um you know have a
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standard that you can compare and contrast
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whatever so and people asked for the kits so I did them I never really
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created kits because I thought it would be a good idea I created them because people
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asked for them all my products every sing single one of my Chargers were asked for and demanded and
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that was people were swearing at me for not providing something at the beginning
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so I did and I keep on doing it and it's been very good and I really appreciate all of you it has been the most
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wonderful customer service experience um at least from
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you um you have been um
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great people I really appreciate so I want to continue doing
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this no matter what happens to me whatever I do I care about the individual and I want to do that
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maintain these things I don't want to get sucked into something big and not
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you know care about the individual so what we're going to try
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and do is have a place where you can submit again what we used to have a folder for
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somebody that has that you can open up and see videos from
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them uh documents and pictures and whatever they want to share
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about their experience and this creates positive
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real life science that is not
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controlled it is open source in that sense um real what you've come to see
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here and there unlike what you see in the
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controlled schools and industries with their fake
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science and they're limited um science or perverted science
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falsely called science pseudo science
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partial science um which I want to really address I'm still working
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on the introduction which is the most important thing that I'll have ever written my
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life I think unless it's too much for this kit I think I'm really working on
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something and I'll tell you honestly the last like eight months of
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my life have been the most most Chang es in my life spiritually and I set out to do this
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introduction which ended up being something I had to
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experience trying to deal with the nature of science um how to do
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science in a in the most proper sense and I struggle
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to uh find anything that really tried to cover
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this ground which I'm going to try and Tackle so I'm not going to explain that yet
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because I'm going to try and articulate this in this introduction I think what
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I'll end up doing with this kit because I want to limit it to 100 Pages just like this kit
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was and this one what I want to do is actually make
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it more reference so maybe I'll have a larger writing on a subject
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that'll bring up and point to and then of course point to other
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things so it was it was a it was a major thing for me I went through a lot of
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experiences that I was praying about and God was showing me I had to go through
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and I'm still going through through it right now like and I will continue on the rest of my life no doubt but trying
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to like quantify this or write it out is um is really
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involved so it's not merely just a technical thing here is trying to grasp
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the nature of science itself and how to do science because I'm talking about
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bringing this to children I mean not really young children but high school
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children and college and adults too I want to
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encourage what science is meant to be want to encourage
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you to experience from the very beginning so what what I'm getting at is I've done
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many meetings now around the world and I've conversed with many
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people on the phone thousands upon thousands of
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people and what I found is I'm trying to overcome the problems the
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obstacles and so get to the foundation of the problems you can see these are
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all kind of foundational books so whether I can accomplish that in this
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book or this kit we'll see especially I'm kind of limiting myself to 10
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pages to do that which I've written out many times in many ways and it's now
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over 100 pages so I'm trying to make this just as
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good and better than these kits here which is kind of hard to do
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anyway it's a history book too maybe I'll get into that in a little
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bit so the Forum will be um planned to
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be like the early Builders Group where hundreds of people had put their
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submission of of folders of
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video um so we'll host it on a free place
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we will moderate it we'll take in the files and then everybody can see that
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there will be no public discussion because that is filled with
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so many attacks and spam and all that we won't have the time to do that or the interest in doing that no doubt people
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will talk on their own places and that's fine but what we will do is make that
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every person who has done a submission have access to each other on a private
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place which will still have its limitations uh because it will be
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moderated and um people can then talk to each
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other offline or out outside of that area but we want you know highly
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contributive um the least amount of chat so it will retain all the important
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features of what we had with the other groups including the private groups now
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I'm giving you access to the private groups in the emails that were in the private
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groups um years ago we've gone through them and picked
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out um as far as I can see right now the best that we still have there was a lot
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lost and it's out there and I can find it no doubt but this is only all that I
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had time for special thanks to Gabe um up in Lansing Michigan who has
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been a very faithful and generous customer and
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friend who did a lot of work um on helping with
18:50
that so what we did what he did was
18:56
take um from lot I pull from a lot of
19:02
files um emails there was thousands of pages or
19:09
thousands of emails that we broke down to 600
19:19
Pages this size Pages full letter size pages and
19:25
size 10 font there going to be a tiny font want and I really don't want it any
19:33
bigger than that book size so we're looking to make a hard cover out of all
19:39
that what I'm going to do right now is go through it and index it
19:44
all and I may like pull out a couple P ones there so I was going to do that
19:51
after this kit but then I realized we got to do it all at the same
19:57
time so I've been trying to think about that decide upon that so what I'm going to do
20:04
is a 100 page kit like this the book is 100 Pages all
20:11
the hardware is done we have much inventory on that now
20:17
um so we're going to ship that out to anyone's ordered uh very
20:24
shortly but I wanted to finish the book really and put it together so if it takes a little bit longer for the book
20:29
I'll ship out all the parts for those who have ordered these kits uh we have everything
20:37
ready and I didn't want to rush it I needed to focus on it because it
20:46
demands um undivided attention there's a lot to sort through
20:53
through years and years of information so it's it's comp
20:58
comprehensive in or it's it's includes it's a history book right it's a science
21:05
book it's an education book and like about education
21:12
itself and it's a reference book so that's involved it's
21:20
controversial I'm trying to make it as least controversial as possible in the
21:26
drama side of things the history I'm trying to be more
21:32
positive than uh minimize any kind of
21:37
negativity um we won that battle in the end they wanted to fight they wanted to
21:44
war but they never got it and so all that is
21:53
over Hallelujah so anyway
22:02
the history will include primarily the early years from
22:09
2003 2004 2005 um there is some later
22:17
stuff but really the early years were the important years
22:23
um in a scops if I can use that term right now
22:29
um you usually find the the better information right at the beginning and as it goes along it gets worse so so
22:37
that whole the whole free energy uh movement if you will was
22:42
highly controlled from the very beginning as a Sops or as a subgroup of
22:50
the uh conspiracy sciops this conspiracy theorist movement itself and as I've
22:57
come to see as a historian as a researcher um right in the middle of
23:04
this and also the victim of it I found this to be the case that the major names
23:13
were all agents if you will and some of them are still
23:19
around by their fruits you shall know them right they have to do enough good things
23:27
to make it look like they're believable so without going off into so-called conspiracy theory I'm
23:34
dealing with history here and what I'm going to present is the good out of
23:41
that um you know the goal was I guess to
23:46
flood you with so much information and get you divided and confused and in
23:53
controversy that you never really got around to benefiting from the technology
23:59
is just to keep you in the divid and conquered State um distracted
24:05
overwhelmed ever learning never able to come to knowledge of the truth it gets you focused on
24:12
personalities uh Living Legends that were not even original and that were not
24:18
actually inventors in the proper sense of the term
24:25
so during those years there was a lot of good
24:30
information I was able to plow through it and benefit from it and use the
24:36
technology and demonstrate it in the real world um most
24:44
others we're talk talk talk and never producing
24:49
anything but information did that benefit you some
24:57
here and there maybe but generally people Wast a lot of their time the question
25:04
is to you who went through that and there's a lot of you still
25:10
around was it better for you and I I say this to people because usually men only
25:15
come to my meetings but sometimes women I say not asking you but I'm asking your
25:22
wives if they were here would it have been better for you to have just bought some soul panels and
25:29
spend your time more productively elsewhere and they were like really
25:36
thinking hard about that so if that's the case then what failed well it was those who were
25:44
so-called leaders is what failed now there are some people that just want
25:49
to be a groupy and just want to do
25:54
nothing and maybe they don't really care about succeeding eting or going anywhere
26:00
but for me I want to be practical I want to see people in action and we made real products we made battery chargers we
26:07
made Motors people have used them throughout the world and it was the
26:12
first time in history that products were sold that did such things all around the
26:20
world and that came with a cost it came with great cost to me
26:26
personally and um in some ways I regret ever getting
26:31
involved with this because of that it's a pain I can't describe that I've gone
26:39
through and that's not financially either so in other ways we'll still be
26:47
able to do great good with this I continue to to do
26:53
this with great um pleasure um there's been many
27:00
blessings I've had so many wonderful friends
27:06
um so I I'm very grateful anyway we want to
27:11
do um so anyway what I was getting at kind of
27:17
long-winded we made a kit um again we started kind of
27:22
restarted again with the loving selfish circuits and loving paths
27:28
um I kind of went D or I went I had to survive for about 10
27:36
years with nothing I lost everything and more than you can imagine
27:43
on on a non-financial level and then
27:48
so I then kind of resurfaced more
27:56
2016 with with the selfish Sur circuits loving past
28:02
idea um as I was going through some you know
28:08
spiritual changes um and that was really exciting it it
28:15
seemed to really make a difference and then two years later in 2018 we did this
28:23
kit moving more into the high frequency
28:29
high voltage um
28:35
focus and what I wanted to do was the same as I did with the original uh school girl kits and and that was
28:45
create an educational tool that you learn while you're working physical
28:51
mental not one or the other and so people some of the people
28:57
were RAC through it and looking for something to magically appear
29:05
maybe but I think and I can tell by the way that people respond to it whether
29:11
they actually just skim through it or really sat in it and some spent a couple
29:18
of years in this maybe some are still in it personally I'm still in it there's many things in here
29:26
that um get quite advanced in the back
29:31
section um and so I I will say that again there there are a lot there's a
29:37
lot of things in this um there's a lot of different things you can do in here
29:42
that will totally supply all of your energy needs and are not terribly difficult but
29:49
I teach on being immersed being immersion in immersion
29:54
immersing yourself into it focusing when you actually do some of the
30:00
experiments without trying to just quickly go on the next one they're very
30:06
simple but have you thought about the implications so that was
30:14
satisfactory many many people have said I'm so glad you made me think in
30:20
here and because not only did they
30:25
discover kind of what was in store for them if they did that that was purposely
30:31
planned that way but they also found other things that I didn't even contemplate and I expected that to
30:39
happen instead of just being a follower which is the problem with the schools today they teach you just to memorize
30:47
and that memorizing is of false things many times but they're not teaching you
30:53
to think for yourselves to be an independent thinker so from there we did the Don
30:59
Smith book after that and this basically took B like a year of my life of time and
31:07
focus and I spent a long time doing this index because it's a
31:14
systemized index systematic index as I call it in the title
31:20
here and um as far as I've seen people are
31:26
satisfied with this this there are many people that admitted that they did not
31:32
know one of the most important points from Don Smith until they saw this in
31:39
here and then the videos the video one and two in the series and that was
31:46
because of Alex's contribution one of my friends Alex came to my meeting and 3:00
31:53
in the morning or so after we were sitting down eating some pizza after one meeting he said well yeah I Don Smith
31:59
was my friend and I was in his house and oh yeah I've got a lot of information
32:05
you might be interested in I like really and that's what made this book pass
32:11
possible so this book is everything we had at the time that was publicly shared
32:17
with Don Smith since then I have um more information not really enough to justify
32:26
a whole new um either book or second edition of
32:32
this but um I did get finally the remaining videos by the way but they are not of
32:41
very much quality I think there was about 10 things that was beneficial and
32:48
I'll have to decide how to sort through with that um there was a lot of bad um
32:55
audio in the 98 1998
33:01
video um I we have the notes in here that Alex took in from the meeting
33:08
already and actually some notes in of that meeting are not in the video I
33:13
noticed so they might have been um part of the private correspondence that Alex
33:20
had with Don at his house at that time but anyway I did get a hold of them
33:27
recently I can't talk about that right now um so
33:32
I'm not going to say anything more than what I say here um I will see what we can do with that video footage there's
33:40
more video of the office video that has now been given to
33:46
me um and that is interesting it's more supportive of what he says
33:53
elsewhere and um there is some embarrassing things Don says in the way
34:00
of the one video um it's embarrassing to him
34:07
because there was some people that were disrupting the one meeting and he had to
34:14
repeatedly um like you see was upset because they were
34:20
just kind of heckling him and so with the failure of the microphone
34:28
and that it was decided at the time not to publish those videos um and I can see why there was
34:35
some embarrassing statements I'll say in him reiterating
34:40
this um losing oxygen claim that to me I feel discredits
34:47
him um as a geologist and I included it in this book
34:54
that information on oxygen because I don't censor people when I'm
35:00
publishing everything they did I publish it right I don't change
35:06
the words like the whole um what's his name uh who did the free
35:14
energy book that's online he was another agent who distorted and changed truth
35:21
from people Chang their words my policy as a publisher I have over a hundred
35:26
books from the past that have been republished through aian
35:32
Hart uh publishing house which is my publishing house
35:37
um we've never changed the words we keep them true to the original
35:42
even true to the spelling um so I don't change Don Smith's words
35:49
either or anybody's words the author needs to be heard in his own words so
35:56
what um so in those vi that video Don said
36:03
more information actually in both videos he was talking more about that oxygen scare
36:10
that he thought the oxygen was going to run out on um he must have got a hold of some
36:18
information nothing to do with his energy claims but it um so people are trying to
36:25
downplay Dawn suppressing things not willing to come out no one's ever shown me proof of that
36:33
there's a little bit of evidence but it doesn't amount to proof um so I will say that again after
36:40
all these years having probably more knowledge than almost anybody of Don
36:45
Smith stuff um and having focused on it and replicated it the
36:53
man was reliable and if you're looking to find
36:58
fall then you'll find it I guess there's mistakes I've made the same kind of
37:04
mistakes in meetings on video totally unaware that I even said
37:09
something a certain way um I I've made both of us me and Don
37:17
were not you know trained in these matters
37:23
that we're doing we we went didn't go to school for them in a concentrated way
37:29
like we're both were kind of hobbyists and made things work and you got to take
37:35
us at That level um I can get people to do things and know
37:44
things and do the math when I need it and that's what I've
37:50
done um so I'm more intuitive than uh schooled in this
37:57
schools schools didn't do me any good from the start so anyway so the Don Smith B book
38:04
worked worked out um I'm satisfied with it sure I could
38:12
spend another year tweaking it here and there and all that there's some mistakes in it um here and there but it's it is
38:21
what it is there's only so much time I have then there was the next book this
38:29
next kit again this one's really 100 Pages this one's like
38:35
89 and this one turned out really well too it was a bit rushed at the end of
38:42
the book and it it really needed to be 200
38:47
book pages to do everything I wanted to do but again there was only so much time
38:54
this book is has numerous things in it that you can do a very
39:01
powerful Don Smith and other types of systems in here
39:08
um so I'm very satisfied with this um going back to Don Smith
39:16
now the context of Don Smith is that he really presented in the context of the
39:23
ham radio experimenters it really was wasn't for everybody else other than maybe a
39:30
testimony and if you're interested in diving into that you know you're really going to have to be that kind of person
39:38
to understand AC and DC and regular Electronics household electronics for me
39:46
Automotive mechanics uh electronics
39:52
um it's not for somebody like that it is
39:57
something that uh high voltage and high frequency can be very
40:03
dangerous and that was one reason why I did this kit that's where Don said to
40:09
start so I wanted to prevent people from
40:15
hurting themselves so if you just dive into it and say you had something what most
40:22
people are just hoping to stumble across but that doesn't work
40:27
and maybe until you kill yourself and may then you find out that it worked at that point so there's no forgiveness in
40:34
it you make a mistake you could be dead there's no joke about it and so people
40:40
who are used to wire clips and stuff um they pose a great risk to
40:49
themselves I I have had experiences where they could have easily killed
40:55
me um I could have been blinded I still see a
41:04
fireball on the side of my eyes here like I'll never forget it I mean it's
41:10
not physically present I'm just saying I never forget that experience when I had
41:16
a huge um surplus of energy let's just
41:22
say um so anyways it's serious it's
41:28
um it's dangerous so that's why I wanted on the small scale to give a taste of
41:36
that this one we're starting to move into that right people want me
41:43
to show everything at the meeting or something and there are some real safety
41:50
concerns I show something people start trying to copy it and I do show things
41:56
and people have tried to copy it so it's not like I haven't
42:02
um but if they don't know anything about it or scientific
42:09
procedure they're really going to be hurting themselves people say well that's up to them it's their fault well
42:15
no it becomes me to be careful about it so we're going back to the little kit
42:22
you know we'll kind of swing around do back and forth we'll do different things
42:28
um if we can so with this new kit like I
42:37
said um what I plan on doing is go through that 600
42:43
Pages while I'm going through that I will then take out from it what I
42:50
feel needs to be in the kit itself I'll reference those pages
42:55
because they'll be page numbered while I'm going through that
43:01
book um to really prepare for the full book um I will index it where there's
43:10
important point I'll mention the page number like I did with this Don Smith
43:16
book so that's the plan there now let you think the book is not written it is
43:22
already written it's just a matter of condensing so we have made made over the
43:28
years many beginners instruction guides there'll be me sorting through all of
43:36
them removing stuff which we had done before it was a very big guide that got
43:44
shortened down and rewarded and so after all these years I need to sort through
43:50
that so it's not that you have to go through that at all what I plan on doing
43:55
is is having like the very basic school girl turn on let it
44:05
run very basic instructions there without the second battery the original
44:10
one you'll be able to do the simplified school go kit which is this one which
44:17
has the the SSG board um with a lightning arrester
44:23
rather than a neon bulb and I know that someone's copying everything I'm doing right now and
44:30
trying to hijack what I'm doing don't appreciate it by the way um let's let's
44:37
be let's work together let's not uh try and capitalize on somebody else's work
44:45
here um and that's what happened when I first introduced
44:51
this um that's not contributing that's that's being um
44:58
a troublemaker so anyway we'll have that with the same
45:05
Parts actually these are the parts here for a reason we'll have a couple of
45:12
other different options here that you can do with a kit with the parts provided I'm
45:18
not going to mention them and give the guy who's trying to copy me an
45:25
advantage um
45:31
so there's quite a few different things that you can do with this with the pars provid you can change them
45:37
around um and then of course we have aluminum rotor now
45:44
available and some other accessories that are
45:50
optional so what we'll do is give some basic
45:58
instructions for each of these different modifications and then talk
46:05
about different things that I that I discovered and others have discovered in
46:11
those early years and then we'll we'll we'll give
46:17
the extended test which was a where everyone started
46:23
I guess but I'm not saying you have to do that it's it Demands a lot of time
46:29
that people don't have the patience for anymore like nobody has the patience to do science anymore so they want five
46:38
minute that's all they can do even people who were back that I've noticed have changed uh too um impatient now to want
46:49
to do long-term science and I can understand not wanting to commit to it
46:54
so I will show that um and again I'll try and tweak
47:01
it so then we'll like I said go through the things that people
47:08
discovered and bring them up reference it quote the main idea main concept in
47:15
the book reference it for more details or see where it was first posted so I'm
47:21
not sure if everybody will if people will be interested in purchasing the
47:27
physical book it will be a physical book um not really inclined to do a PDF which
47:34
maybe will irritate some people but that PDF will just be posted on the internet
47:40
and whatever maybe that's what I'm supposed to do you can judge me however
47:45
you want I plan on making a book like this it will not be very
47:52
costly it will be pretty much for cost so I could print it maybe myself but I
47:59
think binding it would be an issue at 600 pages so anyway that's that
48:10
um that's all I guess I can say for now um we're very busy doing many things
48:19
here we have more battery chargers coming out here forklift
48:24
Chargers um we will continue with the motors
48:30
there'll be a new motor that I'm not talking about yet um you'll kind of smile when you
48:39
find out what it is I'm sure and there'll be a question is why
48:45
has no one ever done that before it's a mystery and maybe you'll see why and
48:52
find out so I will definitely show that at the next meeting and whether it will
48:57
be a kit by then I think it will be it's not going to be too hard to do
49:04
it um secondly we have a Bonitas kit some of
49:10
you have seen that the last meeting um I have not written anything up on it yet so that's kind of holding
49:18
that back we do have inventory on it and we will um figure out exactly like like
49:26
basically I have to decide right here now this doesn't don't take this the wrong way I have to share I have to
49:33
decide how much I share well in two senses one um how much
49:40
I can really devote to that right now I really don't have the time for it um it's enough for
49:47
all the other stuff going on but also how far it
49:54
goes um so this is the Banas systems um there's actually a couple of
50:00
kits that we can do so some of you have seen the
50:06
beginnings of the one kit and it's very important just as I'm
50:12
going to make this kit a historical kit um it was history 20 years
50:19
ago it made a difference it actually that kit that I did in those forums that
50:25
I did resulted in MythBusters doing an episode
50:31
against Bing um which is kind of Comedy I guess
50:37
you could say it that's all that show ever was there was no science in that at all um was
50:44
pure comedy anyway it resulted in many other things
50:52
um as well so the Bonitas was 100 years years ago 1914 1918 we did find another patent
51:01
by the way in 1940 I'm suspecting it might be a son of
51:08
his instead um I lost track of the one Mexican man who
51:14
was contacting me during Corona virus I lost contact with him and he was
51:20
providing very interesting information biographical information and patents
51:26
there's this Spanish patent um that was found in the archives and I have it and I still have
51:34
it finish translating it because I don't know Spanish that's another update so there
51:41
are several B patents that we can do um that I can make a kit from and
51:51
replicated from the allout capacitor uh inductor
51:57
first addition to the patent um or whatever I called switch
52:03
might have been switch 3 and4 or one or two I can't remember to um what I call
52:10
the switch seven which I've demonstrated and I use the word switch in the concept of the Tesla switch so
52:17
I'm call calling it The Manita switch which is switching the batteries
52:23
around um but rotating them over like an hour interval not rapidly back and forth
52:30
so the there's that there's the final patent which is kind of like a Don Smith
52:39
like where Don Smith got um his concept from not that he knew that
52:47
but that's where it really originated from which is sort of a Tesla system
52:55
except with batteries and then um there's another system
53:05
too so we'll we'll look at all that in the future um if that's what we have
53:12
time to do um there are other things in the
53:18
works as well and I can't get into them right now
53:24
so I thank you for your patience and support and um look forward to seeing
53:30
some of you soon and
53:36
um have a great new year thank you

Is there any new info in this video ?

Quote from: forest on 2025.01.12, 19:13:31
Is there any new info in this video ?

He basically says he has more information because of some new  Don Smith videos he has been given and he is still
deciding what to do with this new information and also how to present it.

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2025.01.12, 21:48:12
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Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?

Surely a charge is a quantity of electricty, measured as kWh.

....Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?

and what will happen?

Quote from: maxmalone on 2025.01.13, 09:45:05
....Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?

and what will happen?

And what will mast happen ?

electroscope charging by induction. There was old video on youtube but it's  now removed because I can't find it myabe tgis video will give answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbBHnod_Mew

Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2025.01.14, 07:04:45
And what will mast happen ?

the capacitor will discharge. No energy will be increased if someone thinks that the capacitor attracts something. Yes, it does attract but at the cost of discharging. I once did an experiment like this.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2025.01.15, 10:34:14
the capacitor will discharge. No energy will be increased if someone thinks that the capacitor attracts something. Yes, it does attract but at the cost of discharging. I once did an experiment like this.

Did you discharge it back into the input?

Quote from: Aking.21 on 2025.01.15, 15:59:58
Did you discharge it back into the input?

How ?

Quote from: maxmalone on 2025.01.16, 08:41:43
How ?

Diode through a load maybe. That's what Don Smith recommends.

In the patent it is shown that the input is directed to the input but everyone thinks that the increase should be on the LOAD side, i.e. the output, right!? and if it is the other way around!

Quote from: maxmalone on 2025.01.19, 13:28:35
In the patent it is shown that the input is directed to the input but everyone thinks that the increase should be on the LOAD side, i.e. the output, right!? and if it is the other way around!

Don spilled the beans in one of his last videos, where he showed the earth balancing the input from a high voltage probe through an insulated plate capacitor.
There is some speculation that it was leakage that caused it by some forum members.
https://tinyurl.com/mr4ywfpm

https://archive.org/details/AmbientEnergyGenerator11_201905
https://www.google.co.uk/search?

https://tinyurl.com/bdcspf6b 7 mins in if you just want the demo without the explanation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tASY07r9AD0&list=PLmf6BEWAWzyTeshjqaZH76NuyTgBqMi5D  53 minutes in.

Don Smith says you can do this with low voltage.
I hope this helps.