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Title: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.10, 05:20:47
Today is Nikola Tesla birthday. There are many serious things usually written on this day, but today
I would like to share less known and not very serious story :)
Tesla had financial problems later in life, and in 1915, his famous Wardenclyffe tower plant was sold
to help pay off his $20,000 debt at the Waldorf-Astoria.
By the 1930s, Tesla had again racked up a sizable bill at a hotel, this time the Governor Clinton Hotel in Manhattan.
He couldn't afford the payment, so instead, Tesla offered the management something priceless: one of his inventions.
He told them the device—which he referred to as a death beam, not a death ray—was extremely dangerous, and could detonate if someone opened it without taking the proper precautions. When Tesla died in 1943, an MIT scientist working for the National Defense Research Committee was sent to Tesla's hotel room/lab to retrieve the potentially deadly weapon. John G. Trump later wrote that he took time to reflect upon his life before he opened the container.
He shouldn't have bothered. The only thing the wooden chest contained was a "multi-decade resistance
box of the type used for a Wheatstone bridge resistance measurements—a common standard item found in every electric laboratory before the turn of the century!" In other words, Tesla threw some common electrical components in a fancy-looking box and convinced everyone it was a "death beam" worth $10,000.
Tesla's good friend, Mark Twain, would have been proud :)
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.10, 05:28:47
And here some reading for the date
book called "The Wrong Future we live in"
made in 2018, looks even better today with all that madness going around  >:-)

https://ferd041.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/fe_book.pdf
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Allcanadian on 2021.07.10, 09:50:27
Vasik041
From FE book...
QuoteIt became clear that situation is quite serious. Active disinformation campaigns performed on
regular basis to confuse and distract people. And if I want achieve something, I have to begin from
the very beginning myself. I began refreshing my physics knowledge and setup my lab for
experiments. It took a little less than 10 years just to begin understand something. It is all before our
eyes. We just need to learn from the Nature and unlearn some nonsense which we were taught at
school.

Thanks for posting the FE book, it was a good read.

We could also add, on the internet consisting of billions of sites there are only a couple of forums dedicated to understanding FE. Of these few sites I have concluded that active disinformation is very common. It just seems improbable if not impossible that so many people could fail to understand something as obvious as FE. Were swimming in a sea of energy...

I also had a similar experience and started from the beginning myself. I found most of what we have been taught and what most believe is untenable or patently false having little or no basis in reality. It's a gong show, lol.

Regards
AC






Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.10, 10:58:58
Dally some weeks ago posted second video with his system based on interference.
It is amazing that there is almost no reaction to this on FE forums.
The system is a classic, many people started their research with this design.
And you can trace it back to Tesla work very easily (I hope you can ;).

Anyway here is a translated transcript of the video.
Have fun! :)
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.11, 10:41:14
And a little of woodoo for you  ;)

If you make experiments with Tesla coils or some other devices creating strong EM fields around
you may be noticed that such devices create phantoms.
Something remains for long time at the place where device was after device switched off and even moved away.
These phantoms creates same effects as original fields. And quite often these fields have severe negative effect on your health. Having such phantoms in your lab or home make place unhealthy. Even if you don't feel it directly you can feel that something is not right there.

Here a simple device which will help dispose phantoms.
Operation is very simple. You charge big capacitor and discharge it abruptly.
You can do it yourself or use this device which will do it automatically.
Just few minutes usually enough.

PS Yes, I know this sounds crazy. Choose yourself, ignore and suffer or use knowledge proposed for you.
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: picowatt on 2021.07.11, 18:20:50
Quote from: Vasik041 on 2021.07.10, 10:58:58
Dally some weeks ago posted second video with his system based on interference.
It is amazing that there is almost no reaction to this on FE forums.
The system is a classic, many people started their research with this design.
And you can trace it back to Tesla work very easily (I hope you can ;).

Anyway here is a translated transcript of the video.
Have fun! :)

Vasik,

Do you have a link to the video?

Thanks...

PW
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.11, 18:27:40
Quote from: picowatt on 2021.07.11, 18:20:50
Vasik,

Do you have a link to the video?

Thanks...

PW

PW,

yes, it is in the translation document.

and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730MtctOC_w

Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.16, 19:39:38
Some reading about ferrites, saturation etc
For those who like puzzles ;)


PS check this if you haven't seen it https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3453.msg87261#msg87261
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: NickZ on 2021.07.18, 13:42:01
   Vasik:
   Do you think that Dally and Vasmus are the same person, Ed?
   You know how people can show up years later using a different user name.
   Or, is the new video from Ed, just a similar type of replication, of the previously shown Vasmus device?

   NicKZ
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.18, 15:16:31
Quote from: NickZ on 2021.07.18, 13:42:01
   Vasik:
   Do you think that Dally and Vasmus are the same person, Ed?
   You know how people can show up years later using a different user name.
   Or, is the new video from Ed, just a similar type of replication, of the previously shown Vasmus device?

   NicKZ

I think they are different people.
What difference does it make ?

Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: NickZ on 2021.07.19, 13:36:42
   As the device looks to be made by the same guy. There is only one guy that built a similar device, Vasmus, and this new device looks just like a replication of that.
   What difference does it make?  It makes no difference, if nobody cares about who made what. But, I do care.
   
   NickZ
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.19, 16:52:50
Quote from: NickZ on 2021.07.19, 13:36:42
   As the device looks to be made by the same guy. There is only one guy that built a similar device, Vasmus, and this new device looks just like a replication of that.
   What difference does it make?  It makes no difference, if nobody cares about who made what. But, I do care.
   
   NickZ

Nick,

I don't think it looks similar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lDQJOAY7ks
Vasmus device is different. It is closer to Akula/Ruslan's device.

Vasik

Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Sm0ky2 on 2021.07.20, 13:17:44
Quote from: Vasik041 on 2021.07.10, 10:58:58
Dally some weeks ago posted second video with his system based on interference.
It is amazing that there is almost no reaction to this on FE forums.
The system is a classic, many people started their research with this design.
And you can trace it back to Tesla work very easily (I hope you can ;).

Anyway here is a translated transcript of the video.
Have fun! :)

One of the first things we are taught in electronics is concerning the excess build up of energy in our circuits
due to constructive interference.
AND subsequently how to avoid or eliminate it.
Mostly for the reasons that our circuit does not perform or the components may burn up.
I find it ironic that noone ever mentions what benefit we may gain from constructive interference.
The subject is thermodynamically incompatible, and only briefly discussed on a technical level of dangers.

In many ways, constructive interference, wether by light waves or EMF or sound, etc, resembles nuclear mathematics.
I've always pondered that there may be stages of criticality in these areas as well.
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.21, 11:48:57
Quote from: Sm0ky2 on 2021.07.20, 13:17:44
I find it ironic that none ever mentions what benefit we may gain from constructive interference.

Unfortunately this kind of violent behavior is so deep in the culture, so nobody recognize it anymore.
Modern science is more like a war. It fights with nature.
Fights with microbes, fights with EM interference, fights with global warming, fights with people who think differently...

Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Sm0ky2 on 2021.07.23, 12:54:54
We all know how an opera singer can break a wine glass.
But what happens when the wine glass is metal?

Or sized for a different tune?
Perhaps the average car-on-pavement sound?
Or a major frequency produced by airplane engines?
Train sounds, or those made by wind powered sound producers?


Physical vibrations as well:
A flexible bridge designed for energy production?
Tesla's "earthquake machine" oscillator?

Magneto-mechanical oscillation can also do this

And of course EMF, RF, and light, atomic energy
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.24, 16:54:27
Many of us have some experience with conventional electronics.
But open circuits and one wire usage was banned from it.
And so when I saw first time FE device connected to the ground and meter showing many amperes going in the ground wire I thought: nonsense, it can't be true :)
It is natural reaction for a person who didn't study Tesla works in detail.

Anyway, here a very simple circuit which allow you see (and measure if you like) current in the ground wire.
You can even put a lamp there and it will lit.
However to not take away from you joy of discovery I will not tell you, whether lamp get hot or not  8)
(Some people suggest that it's a cold current, so lamp will not produce any heat while being brightly lit)

To create even more confusion, I will attach fancy scope traces obtained from such setup  >:-)

Have fun,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: muDped on 2021.07.24, 18:09:06
Your schematic diagram has an inductor labeled with a value of 47 uF.

Clarification?
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.24, 18:22:08
Quote from: muDped on 2021.07.24, 18:09:06
Your schematic diagram has an inductor labeled with a value of 47 uF.

Clarification?

Just a choke on ring core, can be found in old power supplies
It's 47uH
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: picowatt on 2021.07.24, 23:51:26
Quote from: Vasik041 on 2021.07.24, 16:54:27
Many of us have some experience with conventional electronics.
But open circuits and one wire usage was banned from it.

"Banned"?  I do not believe this to be the case...

Quote
And so when I saw first time FE device connected to the ground and meter showing many amperes going in the ground wire I thought: nonsense, it can't be true :)
It is natural reaction for a person who didn't study Tesla works in detail.

There has been a great deal of study and a much greater understanding of the propagation ULF and VLF frequencies since Tesla's time.  In fact, there are several "Wardenclyffe" type systems operating throughout the world complete with very large grounding systems and top capacities running at up to 1.2 megavolts.  These typically operate at around 24KHz.

PW
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.25, 04:59:13
PW,

yes, I know that some people use this, but show me at least one easily available
physics book where use of open circuits described ?

Vasik

PS http://www.gbv.de/dms/ilmenau/toc/756638089.PDF ?
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.25, 09:10:16
The next step in exploring current in ground wire would be adding...interruptions.
Our "usual" electronic experience suggests that if we let Tesla coil working only a small fraction of time
power will reduce proportionally.
With a simple addition to a previous schematic you can find that it is not true.
Adding interruptions let us lit lamp brighter and make sparks much longer with less power consumed from power supply.

Have fun,
Vasik

Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.25, 19:55:42
Some related reading
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Allcanadian on 2021.07.26, 00:17:41
On open circuits... I thought this was interesting.
https://www.scienceforums.com/topic/37166-electricity-flows-in-an-open-circuit-too/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvA4meGuhDc&t=15s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_W4XKImMwQ&t=74s

It's a comedy of errors by all involved in my opinion, the poster for not understanding the science/prior art regarding what electricity is and how it works, as well as the supposed experts. 

There is no magic here and the easier it is for some free electrons to move from one place to another the more electrons can flow as a current. It could be an Earth ground having many free electrons or large object having the same properties. What many call a ground is in fact "Capacitance", ie "the ratio of the amount of electric charge stored on a conductor to a difference in electric potential". The Earth or a large object is a convenient place to give or take free electrons to increase the number of free electrons in motion within a system.

In fact I did the same experiments and found it fascinating, the larger the number of turns in a pair of coils coil relating to surface area or in general two large bodies the more current could be set in motion between them. There is little difference between a coil acting as a capacitor or a plate because surface area, which most ignore, is the determining factor. The ease of which a given number of charges can move between two regions before the like charges start to repel one another.

So much confusion over something so simple...

Regards
AC



Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.26, 09:04:59
AC,

so, what is your opinion, why led is lit in this circuit ;)

Regards,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: NickZ on 2021.07.26, 17:15:07
    Me thinks:
   The led is lit because the two metal objects (the metal beam, and the door) are not isolated. They are both on the ground, and the ground is conducting the small amount of current and voltage. Otherwise the led would be burnt out from the full wattage of the 12v battery onto the 3v led.
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.27, 15:36:35
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 7) - Standing Wave, Node, Reflection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU)
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.07.29, 16:34:00
About static electricity from Tesla coil and different types of discharge
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.07.31, 21:14:26
Hello Vasik041,

thank you so much for this information, very interesting indeed especially Dally's setup.

In 2015 I stumbled on a lecture of this guy here because the title rose my interest: "The Antenna Paradox"
which might be related to the Dally-Setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4guW5NFs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4guW5NFs8)

Now yesterday evening I took the time to systemically study his video-series on his webside here

http://www.distinti.com/fs.html (http://www.distinti.com/fs.html)

and had troubles to stop it until I almost fell asleep right in front of my computer-screen  :o

...and I thought that maybe Chet should invite him here for reasons you can find out if you only follow his first two presentations...awesome,
very well founded, he is an engineer , short VITA here:

http://www.distinti.com/about.html (http://www.distinti.com/about.html)

Now, Vasik, one question about Dally's Coils: Is there a description - or experience of you - of the winding-numbers of the different coil sections and their spacing ( capacitiv decoupling, modes of operation Lambda/4 or Lambda 3/4) . Looks that this is an important factor.

Since the information about his setup are very minimal I surely do believe him that no one will or better can replicate  his system  :(

Mike

Edit: watched in one stride all lectures up to #13 and I can say that he comes up with some very interesting result for a total
different ( wave-model independent ) Inductance model..practical measurements, analysing the resulting numbers with a number of geometrical models with a software until he finds a new model ( just one is left) which fits best to the experimental data ( Rhombus variable loop antenna ). The result is very surprising ( Faradays induction law can be disregarded )
I think that this is a must-study for serious researchers.
Funny: at the end of some lectures he has a "Tearing Procedure" where he selects the relevant pages of a book of classic EM-Theory and pulls them out ;D

Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.01, 08:20:10
Hello Kator01,

I know about Distinti. He produce some entertainment, yes, but what about practical value of his theories ? I am not sure.
About Dally's device, I don't have any specific info which wasn't published. The coil construction presented quite detailed in the attached file. People have difficulties with replication because they don't understand how such systems work and because some precise tuning needed.
Typically such systems consist of two circuits working together (see UxI.png), one (red) providing voltage and second (blue) providing current. Some ideas about these systems can be found also in pdf file.

Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.08.01, 23:44:32
Vasik,

thank you very much. Indeed, two oscillating systems directly coupled ( same groundline ) and inductive and capacitive
coupled are not easy  to understand , not to mention to build and control it. Loose coupling, critcal coupling etc. See Levin here

https://youtu.be/Ye92jN6FrlU?t=1472 (https://youtu.be/Ye92jN6FrlU?t=1472)

which then leads to these "fancy" scope traces you showed in Reply #15 : its exactly this exchange of energy between the two system, Levine demontrates starting from this time-mark. Yellow trace is one Kacher-coil, blue the other.

Since Dallys System operates in the near-field there will be created a virtual strong electrostatic positive field which sucks up electrons from the ground.

Using Kacher-Technique there is a problem: even if they are directly coupled both systems will not have the exact same frequency even if we take very much care in building the coils, because the different influences of the Miller-, and the Gate-Capacitance which are of importance for the gate-cutoff time.

Because of this ( two slightly different frequencies ) you additionally will get a superimposed "beat-frequency" which makes it more difficult.

This is the reason other circuit-designs are used to trigger the Mosfets in sync to avoid beat-frequnecies

Even if constructive interference design is intended with these two Kacher-Systems I doubt it will work stable, however I have to confess that I have to study more on this "constructive-interference" subject and start small experiments .

I think distinti is important - at least IMHO- because of his groundbreaking work on inductance ( Rhombus-experiment), its  definitely not just entertainment for me.
Anyway I have to study more of his work and all that good stuff you show here. Thanks alot

Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: F6FLT on 2021.08.10, 15:03:56
Quote from: Kator01 on 2021.07.31, 21:14:26
Hello Vasik041,

thank you so much for this information, very interesting indeed especially Dally's setup.

In 2015 I stumbled on a lecture of this guy here because the title rose my interest: "The Antenna Paradox"
which might be related to the Dally-Setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4guW5NFs8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4guW5NFs8)
...

Distinti has some very interesting analyses, but on the issue of antennas there is no paradox. Two antennas generate a double level field in the areas where their fields add up, thus a quadruple power, and a zero field thus a zero power in the areas where their fields are in phase opposition. And of course there are all the intermediate values between the two, resulting in a total power in the whole space only equal to the sum of the powers of the 2 TX, as expected. This is true no matter what the antenna radiation patterns are.
Distinti has of course understood all this, but he sees an ambiguity when he makes an analogy with batteries connected in series. But there is no ambiguity: when waves are superimposed (in a linear medium), the vectors characterizing their intensity add up, this is the principle of waves. This is true for all kinds of waves, not only electromagnetic waves, but also sound waves or the swell on the sea. Electromagnetic waves have the same properties as any other waves. Sometimes there are crossed swells at a small angle. If two swells of 1 meter cross each other, we will have a swell of 2 meters, and everyone finds this normal, and rightly so. "Meter" or "Volt/meter" or "Pressure" (for sound wave)  to measure the amplitude of the wave, it makes no difference, they add up.
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.08.12, 21:29:34
Hello Vasik,

when I was asking about the Coils in Dally's Video I was asking of the two High Voltage Kacher-Tesla-Coils.
Is there a description how he winds the coils in sections and what the effects are he expects to occur other than
avoid capacitative coupling and step-wise isloation of the increasing voltage ?

Concerning your ICE-Paper I wonder what other ringcore than the FE25-3F3 might be the best option since that core is no longer listed on the ferroxcube webside.
I understood that the BH curve shoud be rectangular but do we have specifications in the official data of a core about
the difference of the entry- and the exit of saturation ? what would be the best choice ?
Do we have to set up an measurement-circuits ourself to test it with different Materials ?

Very Interesting read - yesterday done for 4 hours, I followed your discussion with grandfather.:
https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=689735#689735 (https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=689735#689735)
..a bit tedious with google-translate

There are more questions now

1) there was a reference to Bessenovś remark about the ferroresonance-trigger effect and since I can not look at the pic ( .gif),
   I would ask if you can provide these pics presented here by user serrg:
   
   http://matri-x.ru/forum/index.php/topic/971-%d1%83%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%ba%d0 %b0-%d1%82%d0%b0%d1%80%d0%b8%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8f-%d0%ba%d0%b0%d0%bf%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b4%d0%b7%d0%b5/page__st__12080 (http://matri-x.ru/forum/index.php/topic/971-%d1%83%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%ba%d0%20%b0-%d1%82%d0%b0%d1%80%d0%b8%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8f-%d0%ba%d0%b0%d0%bf%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b4%d0%b7%d0%b5/page__st__12080)
   
   the link for Pics : http://lib.e-science.ru/book/130/page/333.gif
   do not work for me

   Any Dokument on this ? in russian it should be no problem as .pdf, exept picures like .gif., .jpg.

   I think this would be an interesting read form page 605 and on...but you must be registered in order to get access to these
   attachments,which is not possible for me

2) Grandfather also speaks about the old Computer-Transformers ( two legs ) dated before 1990, that there is a voltage or 
    current-increase if you switch on leg off
   I would guess I have saved a few from the dump during the last 15 years.
   Are there any test done on switching one leg off ?  and how to do it ?

   a lot of questions but this is so interesting.

    Thank you for your work

   Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.13, 07:30:11
Hi Kator01,

Quote from: Kator01 on 2021.08.12, 21:29:34
when I was asking about the Coils in Dally's Video I was asking of the two High Voltage Kacher-Tesla-Coils.
Is there a description how he winds the coils in sections and what the effects are he expects to occur other than
avoid capacitative coupling and step-wise isloation of the increasing voltage ?

There is no detailed description, he said that all coils just a "normal" coils, no bifilars, no grenade etc
Visually you can see that Tesla coils wound on 75mm tubes, you can calculate such coils using Gorchilin's calculator
(http://gorchilin.com/calculator/coil14?lang=en)

Quote
Concerning your ICE-Paper I wonder what other ringcore than the FE25-3F3 might be the best option since that core is no longer listed on the ferroxcube webside.
I understood that the BH curve shoud be rectangular but do we have specifications in the official data of a core about
the difference of the entry- and the exit of saturation ? what would be the best choice ?
Do we have to set up an measurement-circuits ourself to test it with different Materials ?

I was able observe effect with many different types of ferrite. Take any material you have at hand, no rectangular BH curve needed. I tried 3E25,  T38 and N30. I suggest using setup with multiple pulses, so that effect is accumulated
and can be noticed easily.
I spent many years researching this and built several BH curve tracers. The problem is that effect is very small and high precision needed to observe and measure it.

Quote
Very Interesting read - yesterday done for 4 hours, I followed your discussion with grandfather.:
https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=689735#689735 (https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=689735#689735)
..a bit tedious with google-translate

There are more questions now

1) there was a reference to Bessenovś remark about the ferroresonance-trigger effect and since I can not look at the pic ( .gif),
   I would ask if you can provide these pics presented here by user serrg:
   
   http://matri-x.ru/forum/index.php/topic/971-%d1%83%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%ba%d0 %b0-%d1%82%d0%b0%d1%80%d0%b8%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8f-%d0%ba%d0%b0%d0%bf%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b4%d0%b7%d0%b5/page__st__12080 (http://matri-x.ru/forum/index.php/topic/971-%d1%83%d1%81%d1%82%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b2%d0%ba%d0%20%b0-%d1%82%d0%b0%d1%80%d0%b8%d0%b5%d0%bb%d1%8f-%d0%ba%d0%b0%d0%bf%d0%b0%d0%bd%d0%b0%d0%b4%d0%b7%d0%b5/page__st__12080)
   
   the link for Pics : http://lib.e-science.ru/book/130/page/333.gif
   do not work for me

   Any Dokument on this ? in russian it should be no problem as .pdf, exept picures like .gif., .jpg.

   I think this would be an interesting read form page 605 and on...but you must be registered in order to get access to these attachments,which is not possible for me

Some links become broken. I have translated related posts from matrix forum and also pages from Bessonov's book, see attached fefr.pdf (scroll to the end)

Quote
2) Grandfather also speaks about the old Computer-Transformers ( two legs ) dated before 1990, that there is a voltage or  current-increase if you switch on leg off
   I would guess I have saved a few from the dump during the last 15 years.
   Are there any test done on switching one leg off ?  and how to do it ?

Could you give me a link to Grandfather's post ?
I remember that he was saying that some power supply driver trafos have interesting coils configuration,
but I not sure if it is correct. He is a guru-type character, never speaks directly and use every opportunity to test your knowledge. More or less proper conversation possible only when you are expert in the subject :)
It is interesting and thought provoking but also sometimes frustrating.

Regards,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.13, 08:33:55
Related, but usually forgotten:

QuoteThe Anhysteretic Magnetization curve (AM), also called 'ideal magnetization' when it was first
introduced, is widely used in material characterization and technical applications. In Figure 1,
the exemplary initial and the Anhysteretic Magnetization curve of Mn–Zn ferrite for power applications
are presented. Historically, AM was used extensively in magnetic recording to overcome hysteresis of
the recording medium, and in 'forced' magnetization of hard magnetic materials.
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.13, 08:40:06
And if you want see something what you probably haven't seen before...

On these pictures top (yellow) trace represents pulse which controls driver (marked ch.A on schematic)
The purpose of LC tank circuit is core demagnetization. I was experimenting with demagnetization and accidentally
found this "peak" (marked with red). It appears only when core demagnetized before applying magnetization pulse.
It confirms the fact that core behaves significantly different if it is demagnetized, and so that it is not enough just switch
driver off to demagnetize core :)

Have fun,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.08.17, 20:33:02
Hello Vasik,

I apologize, I was down-under because of some tooth-extraction last friiday, so it took my a while to get rid of
the side-effects of the narcotic and had no "brain" to study your documents which I will do ..promised.

wow, that puls is extraordinary, so this might be the technique the Korean Procon-Company (disappeared)  was using. I followed the Link to this video here at the discussion on skif.biz and watched it in amazement.



You certainly know it. Their website is still in the archive:

[url]https://web.archive.org/web/20160305034226/http://www.procongroup.org/run-m-bike.htm[url]

concerning this Computer-Transformer, it is here on page 44.

[url]https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4922&pagenum=44]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp96a-fVPss[url]

You certainly know it. Their website is still in the archive:

[url]https://web.archive.org/web/20160305034226/http://www.procongroup.org/run-m-bike.htm[url]

concerning this Computer-Transformer, it is here on page 44.

[url]https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4922&pagenum=44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp96a-fVPss%5Burl)

Google Translation from his post:

QuoteTo understand the tricks of the magnetic field, let's look at the swing transformer of a conventional half-bridge computer power supply

I am not shure what he meaes with "swing-transformer" but I think he is not talking about half-wave rectifier but of the centre-tapped fullwave-rectifier, but I am not sure.

https://indieseducation.com/rectifier/ (https://indieseducation.com/rectifier/)

using this old core-configuration with tape-wound-core because these have separated the two coils on each leg
of this core-type. They have used this configuration in order to avoid capacitive coupling of the coils.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Schnittbandkerntrafo-07kva.JPG (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Schnittbandkerntrafo-07kva.JPG)

...now you learn some german  :) "tape-wound-transformer = Schnittbandkern-Transformator"...Trafo is short-term.

I think, you would like this chip here:

https://www.analog.com/en/products/ltc6992-1.html (https://www.analog.com/en/products/ltc6992-1.html)

Problem, one needs a provider for reflow technique to solder it on an adapter.

One thing I would like to suggest to you which I learned from a friend of mine (electronic engineer) 2 years ago:

If you puls or capture flyback-pulses into a electrolyte capacitor you need to add in parallel to it a few
of those MMLC here, because the electrolyte-Cap is much too inert to adapt to a fast rise-time and simply can not
take in the full energy of the puls so it is burned at the resistance of the leads and within the electrolyte fluid:

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceramic_capacitor#HF_use,_inductance_(ESL)_and_self-resonant_frequency[url]

You should also use the low-esr type of elecrolyte-cap to further minimize the losses and for the MLLC's the highest
voltage type you can get.

So you might put these values in parallell, one piece of each value is enough

- 100 pF
- 1 nF
- 47 nF
- 100 nF
- 470 nF
- 1 myF
- 10 myF

The inverse is also true and this is where it is used in professional puls switching circuits with high current demand (30 to 100 A in 20-to 50 ns) - H-Bridges for example.
He told me that if you do not apply this technique the electrolyte-caps might explode right away.
They tested it for sure.

I have a professional H-Bridge from Analog Devices where you can see theses arrays. Will post a pic later

You will notice the difference.

Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.18, 08:01:03
Hi Kator,

Here a proper translation of the post and also attached image.
It is an idea how to create very sharp current pulse for fast magnetization.

Regards,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.08.18, 15:54:55
Thank you,

you have hidden the 2 Legs very well  ^-^

Reminds me of a electric shock I got 11 years ago when I was testing a mag-amp setup using two microwave-transformers.
Secondaries I put in series for the DC Control-current, primaries as opposing working coils acting as saturable reactor.
While under load I measured some unbalance between the two working coils ( both transformers were a little  different ).
So I was trying to eliminate the unbalance with a 25 Watt Bulb ( advice was given to me from a friend, who was experienced
in electronics since 1956 ). Somehow my right finger came close to the mass of one of the cores ( which I did not disconnect from the mass-wire )
and it was just a hair on me finger touching the core when a high voltage shock hit me since I had the bulb-wire in my other hand. I jumped in the air
and was numb for an other 6 hours all articulations aching for one day., was lucky I survived.

I had actually created what I wanted to balance. :-[


Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.18, 18:40:27
Yes, electricity can give us light and heat, but also it can bite if we not careful :)
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.08.23, 22:05:43
Hello Vasik,

please see attached pics of the H-Bridge  CN-0196. You can see the in-parallell to the electrolytic caps placed multilayer-caps on the backside.
On the front you see the 4 ESR-Electrolytic Caps ( 4700 myF ), on the right the MOSFETs

I myself soldered them in a compound to minimize distances.

If Grandpa states:

QuoteThe question is where the pulse comes from, because the field in the core was zero before
that.

then this is a misleading question as the fields are not zero but compensated inside in such a way that from the outside ( viewer ) you can not measure any fields or at least you believe that there is no field anymore.

Think about Gennady Markov Transformer

Inside the core the magnetic-fields entangle like a DNA-Helix where the two helical windings run in opposing direction....and in  in a toroid-core they meet in such a way to close the loop: north to south  .... south to north.
You get the idea ?

We could test this by using two identical volumes of different colored ferrofluids, fill the mixture in a small glasstube with two magnets at each end, have a good stir and have a closer look with a microscope. Would be interesting don't you think ?


Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.08.24, 07:24:22
Hi Kator,

nice bridge driver board :)

About opposing/compensated fields: if we take two turns with currents creating opposite magnetic fields
result field will look like this (see attached picture).
This can be observed with any proper field meter (hall sensor, small coil etc)

As I said before, Grandpa enjoy confusing people. Every his statement should be considered with care. It can be true but also can be skillfully designed misinformation.

That is unfortunate situation in the internet nowadays  :(

Regards,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.08.24, 22:34:27
Vasik,

yes, but this is only true for an air-coil. Inside a iron  or Fe2O3 ( ferrite) core it is different because of the low magnetic
resistance of iron. Air has high magnetic resistance total different story

Maybe Grandpa is a FSB-Agent active at different discussions. I say this because you mentioned that he only is reacting in a discussion to a user if that user is professional enough ( has to show his coin ) but never gives back anything real of value
just giving hints and never a straight answer ( NSA  ;D). I learned this 15 years ago while being approached on the the street
by a scientology-member. At that time they had a Ron Hubbart exposition and he asked me to visit it. Since I knew from my studies
between 1974 and 1992 how they act on people, I say no..wont go there. Then he tried to challenge me ( appealing to my ego ),
asked me if I was not a curious man. So my straight answer was, "of course but the target of my curiosity I determine myself"...discussion finished.
Intelligence service people always ask questions but never reveal anything about themselves, so do not get frustrated and be careful what you reveal because they want to know where you stand ( with your knowledge ) .

Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.09.14, 20:18:41
for Itsu and Verpies - Self running blocking generator video transcript + some info from archive



Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Verpies on 2021.09.14, 21:05:10
Thank you Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Itsu on 2021.09.16, 20:37:18

Yes thanks Vasik,

i quickly put something together (yoke i had, MBR4045 dual diode, MJE13009, 600nF base cap, 2nF L2 cap, 1M base resistor, schottky diode and the coils like mentioned etc.) and it seem to be working right away when powered by 6 to 12V.

I do see that after removing power, it keeps on running for half a minute or so with a similar signal as in the video, then drops voltage to 0.5V and
then keeps on oscillating with some pulses for some additional 5 to 10 minutes (i have a 1000uF 50V electrolytic cap at the input).

I did reverse L1 leads as when in the circuit diagram.

But it does work as a blocking generator (joule thief) as expected, so some tuning and different components could further improve on it.

Itsu
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.09.16, 22:41:16
Hello Itsu,

I looked up some Data:

For KT805 there are A, B and C-Types so there might be a difference

https://alltransistors.com/search.php?search=KT805
(https://alltransistors.com/search.php?search=KT805)

The Diode you choosed is a general rectifier, they are slow in the reverse recovery-time, but above all they have a
high instantaneous reverse current of 1 mA which gives proof of beeing slow,so you loose energy, should be in the range of 50 to 100 myko-amps.

I have found that it depends on the application- circuit which choice you make : either general recovery time ( myko-seconds) and low Forward-Voltage-drop or higher Forward-Voltage-drop >1 V and fast recovery time in the range of 20 to 50 nsec.

I had a flyback-recovery-circuit for a transformer-primary ( pulsed and the switched off)  and tested fast Diodes ( 50 ns , Vf 1,1 V) versus an AA143 Germanium Diode and the AA143 outperformed the differend fast diodes I had available.

Concerning the inductance:
pay attention to the reversal of magnetism losses but I do not have much experience in selecting the right core. His monitor-chocke-core might be low on these losses ( depends on the airgap and material)

Its a good start though, thank you Vasik  O0

Also look up the end paragraphs of my post #35 above about capture of flyback-pulses which might be of importance.


Mike
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Itsu on 2021.09.17, 08:17:35

Hi Kator,  i have opened this thread "Tiger's Blocking Generator replication" here:  https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4181.msg94667#msg94667


Itsu
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.09.17, 09:05:54
Here another document from Tiger, I think it is relevant to the topic
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.10.02, 12:08:14
Mechanical analogy
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.10.30, 22:43:22
Hello Vasik,

I was watching some russian tutorials form different authors and there was a term in one of the vids which caught my attention "Romanov nod" by Denis Permyakov

https://youtu.be/q3w3Q_YRfEE (https://youtu.be/q3w3Q_YRfEE)

While I was searching for this term I found this interesting tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVuWDIdgsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVuWDIdgsc)

I think it is very important. Do you have time to create a transcript of what this guy is speaking about ?

It starts at some different topic but then it becomes more and more interesting because he dives right into energy-production and the techniques for this.

I found some other vid about vortex-creation by Konstantin Yurevich :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75j99LkHRgs&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75j99LkHRgs&t=0s)

in which he refers to a person with the name  Alexander Vladimirovich . Did you ever hear this name ?

Mike

Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Vasik041 on 2021.10.31, 07:45:20
Quote from: Kator01 on 2021.10.30, 22:43:22
Hello Vasik,

I was watching some russian tutorials form different authors and there was a term in one of the vids which caught my attention "Romanov nod" by Denis Permyakov

https://youtu.be/q3w3Q_YRfEE (https://youtu.be/q3w3Q_YRfEE)

While I was searching for this term I found this interesting tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVuWDIdgsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVuWDIdgsc)

I think it is very important. Do you have time to create a transcript of what this guy is speaking about ?

It starts at some different topic but then it becomes more and more interesting because he dives right into energy-production and the techniques for this.

I found some other vid about vortex-creation by Konstantin Yurevich :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75j99LkHRgs&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75j99LkHRgs&t=0s)

in which he refers to a person with the name  Alexander Vladimirovich . Did you ever hear this name ?

Mike

Hello Mike,

I made summary for two short videos.
You can try use autotranslated captions for long video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trVuWDIdgsc)

Regards,
Vasik
Title: Re: About different things
Post by: Kator01 on 2021.11.01, 01:02:52
Vasik,

thank you. So do you know more about Romanov ?
The principle of the vortex-coil-winding is well explained.

Now, I used the google-Autotranslation with the long lecture of Romanov but I could not catch up with his main concept he explained with the universe-grid he was drawing. So is there another translation tool you use for english to russian and vice versa ? Google is terrible could not get 10 % of what he is saying.

Can you also please have a look at the "Tigers Blocking Generator" thread. I showed a short vid where Permyakov explains to the other guy to first understand the left side of the circuit while he was covering the right section of the circuit with his hand. I got the impression the guy was not familiar with the Kacher-Circuit. We simply miss a systematic approach to the underlying principles and it seemed to me that he was pointing the way to it

Mike