ELECTRICITY AND ELECTRIC MOTOR
In order to achieve something worth achieving, one must know electricity. Electricity is the only worker that the Creator uses to create the physical world. Electricity creates two opposite effects with one direction – one is gravity which pushes to the centre from the outside and the other is from the centre to the outside. We call this compression and expansion or centripetal and centrifugal forces.
For us that are building e motors, these forces must be known, including the octave pressures which are nature's multiplication processes. Coils wounded in nature's way create a higher potential without wasting energy through heat. What e unity did is combine all that it could to achieve a higher potential. Here is the list that we thought is very important for electric motors:
USING BOTH SIDES OF THE COIL . Even today many are forgetting the importance of it.
USING A COIL THAT COPIES NATURE'S PROCESSES. This means 2 coils working in unison. C AND C C wounded coils
USING BOTH SIDES PUSH AND PULL adds tremendously to the efficiency.
LINE OF FORCE. Steady from beginning to end.
CONICAL COILS. Concentrate power to point where the electrical vortex is at its maximum
plus magnet to metal exposure is minimal.
BIFILAR COILS. Add extra power plus electricity is much cleaner.
COILS ARE INSTALLED IN POSITION where they can create maximum
work
LEVER With bigger diameter of rotor we can achieve a much higher torque.
Most of these points have been known to us and just common sense.
What we can assume now is that one horsepower from our motor is around 300W.
On our website in the demo videos, the third video is a demonstration of what happens to our input when a load is added on the generator.
Best Regards
http://www.e-unitysystems.ca/
One of the biggest stumbling blocks, as I see it in our work, is unlearning the false. The information that we were taught is just about useless. When information is replaced with knowledge that is learned by research, practice and experimenting, then progress is possible.
One example is the atom. We were taught that round balls jump from somewhere to create nucleus and then more balls start to run around and around.
We have heard about the periodic chart of elements. When matter starts from the first octave up to the 9th octave, each step is so precise while the volume decreases, frequency and potential increase. With such high precision, that it is not possible for man to understand. Looking at these 2 stories, which are totally opposite of each other. One has total order, the other is total chaos. How can we believe in both at the same time? Without knowledge and clear vision, it is very hard to move forward.
It is the same as when we try to build something better and more efficient then what is known on the market today, at the same time believing in the thermodynamic laws which tell us that it is impossible.
Now we know that with building a coil, we missed the mark totally. Nature's processes are very simple and more effort must be put into understanding its ways.
The frequency of several hundred billion times in a second , like our sun, electricity must have a simple system of action and reaction to achieve that repetition. The good news is, that we are starting to grasp some of the secrets and we are moving forward – screaming, pulling hair..but moving.
Right about them atoms. Can't trust them at all. They make up everything. C.C
Why the story about atoms? It is a good example to see how stories are with us, but have no meaning in nature for our reality. Octave pressures are in our musical notes, our math is built on it , chemistry could not exist without it. The other story that I call Neil Balls is a total fabrication like many others. They exist only to distract us from finding the truth.
Electricity is very simple. It follows strict laws and is very efficient. When you know the secrets of electricity, and use it in building electrical machinery, they will definitely be much higher in efficiency or we call it over unity. It cannot be any other way. This is the reason that the engineering community is
so mesmerized with the thermodynamics law so that they couldn't find this fact. I think these laws are the biggest deterrent in human progress in the last hundred years. Our textbooks are incorrect or totally false when describing the workings of electricity.
Today's electric motor is capable of pushing with 3 kilowatts a generator, somewhere around the same wattage, and producing roughly around 2500 watts. An electric motor, built with full electrical knowledge, with 2800 watts can push a 12 kilowatt generator which is driving a 10 horsepower motor with 500 Volts and 5.4 amps x 1.73 which is for a 3 phase equals 4670 Watts without changing the input power.
First we have to realize that a big mistake was made in understanding the workings of electricity. Moving forward would be a very easy step if we could drop our false beliefs and start from the beginning.
Best Regards
What was this "big mistake"?
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.01.17, 03:45:43
...Moving forward would be a very easy step if we could drop our false beliefs and start from the beginning...
Obviously, it is enough to believe that masses do not attract each other in 1/r² as science says, to start seeing objects falling upwards. "Easy step" to anti-gravity. O0 :D
Why don't you take this "easy step" if it is so easy, and give us the recipe for free energy?
Hi Grumpy
Books are written about this subject. It is not easy to explain without diagrams. First we have to understand that whatever we see it is 2 not 1. This is a 2 way universe. Planets have 2 hemispheres, north and south, with the equator in between. We know about compression and expansion or an action-reaction universe. It might be easier to visualize, if you make 2 fists, with the red and the blue wires on the thumbs. On the left side, the power comes in a clockwise direction and the right fist counter-clockwise direction. This is nature's coil.
When you look from the left side, you will have 1 direction of motion and a different direction from the other side. One direction for 2 effects. When firing one coil, the inside pole, which could be represented by your thumb, moves through the other coil to the end and now you have only one coil working in unison with the other coil or the united one. Action on one side creates reaction on the other side, with equal strength and potential. This is the effect that is missing in today's coil. When we fire one coil, the inside pole cannot move anywhere and this is the abnormal condition for electricity. This is why heat is created. Resistance and strains increase with a load where a safe operation is very limited.
In nature's coil, the more load and power that goes through, the equator's field increases which reflects in higher efficiency. In other words, there is nothing that creates resistance and heat, regardless of the load.
Heat is created by man's ignorance, not by electricity.
Today's coil uses only one pole – first mistake.
Now when we start to understand action and reaction principles, the poles are reaction to each action. So, they cannot be on the same metal. For that reason, the coil becomes very inefficient.
In conclusion: using only 50% of one coil, where it should be 2 coils working in unison, now that 50% becomes only 1/4 of the full potential plus other flaws which diminish the power even further. In reality, today's coils are working only around 20% of its potential and power. We can say this differently, today's electric motors wastes around 80% of its power and potential.
Hope this explains some of the mistakes.
Best Regards
This gibberish without any operational sense is a negation of all human knowledge on the subject, the one based on facts and that produces the real generators that power our homes.
"Heat is created by man's ignorance, not by electricity.
Today's coil uses only one pole – first mistake." C.C
A great moment of laughter, thank you.
A coil is a magnetic dipole. Magnetism is only known in this form. Depending on whether the flux exits or enters through a surface of a ferromagnetic material, it is said to be N or S pole, but the magnetic flux is always looped through the two poles, including those of the coils.
On the contrary, if we could use only one pole, we would have interesting new effects, but the unmistakable experimental evidence of a pure magnetic monopole has never been provided.
When Mr. Tesla read some of the Walter Russell books, in the 1930's or so, he told him "Put this away for a thousand years. People are not ready for it". Today, almost a century later, he was quite right for most of the people. Others studied that knowledge and built a model on that concept. It is showing potential that didn't exist up to today. What we have to remember is that, through the centuries, only a handful of people gave us a culture, language, beautiful arts and technologies to lift us up to a higher level. We are grateful for it.
He's not talking about monopole magnetic fields, he's talking about using both poles of a magnetic field at the same time.
I thought an AC polyphase motor does use both poles at the same time.
I could not find anywhere where both sides of the coil are used. I think this picture should be good enough for our discussion. Radial motor coils are like fingers around a rotor. One example, a 5 horsepower motor, has 51 coils-17 coils per one phase.
How does electricity move? In a straight wire, it circles around the centre inside the wire. In the coil, it circles around the centre and around the outside of the wire. Plus, it divides in order to multiply. It divides into 2 hemispheres – red and blue or S-N. One side of the coil is facing the rotor, the other side facing body and lamination. When the coils are fired, the pole towards the rotor pushes the rotor and the other side fires into lamination which creates heat and dirty electricity within the whole body.
This is just about in all motors regardless how many phases it has.
The axial motors are fairly new and they are using both sides of the coil. The problem is that they are using a one way cylindrical coil that is very inefficient plus a very sophisticated cooling system must be present to extract heat.
PS Maybe I shouldn't be too harsh in blaming man for heat. The dumb electricity didn't tell him how it all works – why then should he be blamed for it?
We can summarize in a few words what was said so far.
To achieve over unity we must be better then the existing motor, roughly 10-15 %. Let us see how today's motor is built, to see where we can improve.
First, the motors of today are using only one side of the coil and the other side is wasted.
Second, it is using a one way coil. This coil has nothing to do with nature. Nature is using 2 chambers to create 2 effects. One is centripetal and the other is centrifugal. In this way, harmonics, resonance and repetitions are achieved with simplicity, ease, effortlessly, without any resistance from its flow.
Third, coils are installed in a way to achieve minimal work.
In other words, the most inefficient motor that anyone can build. Period!
This is one of the biggest insults to human intellect. Now when we think of over unity, then we can say that it would be equal to knowledge, utilizing nature's way to accomplish the task.
Through history we have been learning and growing while throwing away the false that does not serve us. The product that we produce will reflect that knowledge.
Whoever knows electricity well...is using it well.
Who doesn't, is using it ...not so well.
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FIRST LAW. Whatever we see, it can and it must be improved.
EVERY E-MOTOR IS POWER MULTIPLIER
WHEN BUILT WITH ACTION-REACTION COIL
Action and reaction is one of nature's best kept secret. The law of action/reaction states: reaction is equal to action but with opposite polarity. Nature always builds in pairs. Not knowing the deeper electrical principles, for over a century, the building of electrical machinery, was a very clumsy way to imitate nature. The easiest way to put this into practical use is:
ACTION + REACTION = OUTPUT POWER
INPUT POWER 1000w + REACTION 1000w = 2000w OUTPUT POWER
With a action/reaction coil or a two way coil, every electrical motor multiplies power by x 2+.
A two way coil is working in a way that electricity was created to operate. In this way, all of the disturbances within its flow, is totally eliminated, like heat and back EMF, are non existent.
Our engineering tried to clean as much as possible all the flaws that have been persistent with electric motors. We are not saying or claiming, by any means, that this is the final product.
Best Regards,
2 sides of the coil?. What about the Newmans Motor? The inner magnet affects both hemispheres of the coil at the exact correct times with correct polarities. Yet no one has shown Overunity with it besides ole Newman himself (maybe).
On a side note, but related- I do believe the whole Action / Reaction thing could be of benefit. I may get flamed for stating this, BUT...
Lets take a motor to generator. The generator "MAY" produce 50% of the input power if it is built really well. And that output power will exactly calculate to the amount of resistance the rotor / stator experienced.. Lets just say to a generator produces 50 watts and faces 6.5 foot pounds of resistance in the process in the form of drag.. In this situation there is a reaction that perhaps can be harvested which we usually don't..
In my example- We have 6.5 foot pounds of force working against the stator. So to prevent the stator from rotating, we bolt it to the bench.. So now we are sending that 6.5 foot pounds of torque straight to bolts in a bench that produce us nothing extra. But what if we had a mechanism that stops the stator from rotating, but could also convert that 6.5 pounds of torque to energy? We could double the output.
It probably is not possible to eliminate the drag, but I believe it is possible to harvest the drag.
Hello Floodrod
Sorry for not answering sooner.
We could have a closer look into using 2 sides of the coil. Newman is one example. New axial motors are another good example. From changing one side to two sides, the power should double, but it does not. Why does the efficiency stay at around 80%? We can start examining what happens when we use one side of the coil.
Applying power to one coil, a cathode in the middle, divides the coil into two hemispheres north and south. Power is divided in half. What happens next is that the anodes are not in their natural position, back EMF is created, making a lot of disturbance to the working pole diminishing its power.
(I believe you have a very good scope frame showing exactly that).
Now we can look at the 2 way coil. When the power is applied to the red side of the coil, the cathode in the middle divides the coil into two hemispheres. At the same time, simultaneously the blue is pushed to the blue side of the uniting equator. Now we have 100% power applied to the red side plus reaction, which is the same as action. In this case, there is no back EMF and no unnecessary heat. Now we can clearly see what is nature's way and why efficiency is so different in these two examples.
In conclusion: For over a century, man has been using one divided coil when nature uses two divided and unites them into one united.
I am putting the picture which could somewhat clarify what we are saying here.
Ok, I'll bite.. I'm willing to look at anything that isn't super complicated and within my grasp.
Here are my first questions..
1. 2 conical coils with points to the outside. ?
2. Ferrite conical cores ?
3. Separate cores do not touch in the center?
4 Both sides are separate coils? Not in series or connected? Don't they have to connect?
5. North magnet passes one side, as South magnet passes other side?
6. Uses both attract and repel- (flipping polarities dead center) ?
If the 2 coils connected in series, you essentially have a bucking coil. And the same polarity on the outsides. Wouldn't the magnet rotor with opposite polarity magnets just neutralize and not spin?
Can we veer away from "theory" and show detailed pictures of these coils, magnets, inside the motor? Step us through piece by piece how this is configured and operates?
Again I am interested in looking at all claims. But I need much more than theory talk and animations that do not show connections or details.
Please compile me pictures with clear connections / configurations and lay out the chain of events of the reactions it causes. I'd pretty much be willing to build resin / iron powder conical cores and build this is the info was all clearly laid out and the chain of events make sense to me.
Thanks!
Here yesterday at Ecat world some cone experiments by Bob Greenyer
Been asking around about this !
https://e-catworld.com/2023/03/07/o-day-is-finally-here-bob-greenyer/
Just another arrow for the quiver ..or point to ponder ...
Respectfully
Chet
PS
For clarity there is an actual experiment suggested ( ?)
PPS
I will remove this post if too ( any reason
1 Conical coils – this is how electricity multiples its power plus small exposure metal to magnet reduces drag
2 Electrical metal core – (for testing any metal is good)
3 Totally separate – metal and wire
4 Each side is separate. One pulse is north – next pulse is south [ to each coil ]
5 Polarities change dead centre – first is push and then when the coil is in between the magnets
it is push/pull
COILS ARE NOT CONNECTED IN ANY WAY! If you got to our web:
eUnity Systems | Energy efficient electric motors
The video in the front will explain just about all and then after seeing it, you can ask questions about what is not clear to you.
In the demo videos, the last one is showing how action and reaction coils lift the magnet.
For reaction coil, it is meant for a coil that is not pulsed with power.
Chet K As you noticed it is exactly what we are doing here. The knowledge has been with us for probably at least 80 years but no one thought that it could be useful in electric motors.
Best Regards
http://www.e-unitysystems.ca/
The picture that I wanted to show you in the previous post is not loading properly. We will just put it on our website.
Thanks
Thanks for the reply. Yes I have watched your videos several times. Forgive my ignorance.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.03.09, 02:19:42
4 Each side is separate. One pulse is north – next pulse is south [ to each coil ]
In the video it says "When one coil is fired, the other side fires automatically as well". How does the other side fire "automatically"? Your quote seems to suggest both coils are hooked to the alternating PWM driver. Are each coils hooked to separate PWM drivers?
I am trying to understand the benefit. Is the "magic" occurring because of the 2 unused polarities of the coil influence each-other in the same way a transformer would induct? Since A north pole of a transformer primary turns the secondary south, the 2 separate unused core sides of the coil compliment each-others polarity / charge so the induction between the 2 separate cores strengthens the poles where the passing magnets are?
I understand your rig is much more complicated, but I attached a sample pic of the basic idea simplified to 1 stator coil and 2 magnets. Is this the basic idea?
Edit- I am experimenting with it and I do not want to clutter your thread. Since your design is very similar to 00's Lanz Killer coil (which I attempted to test) I am updating that thread with what I find, while giving this thread the credit and referring link. https://overunity.com/19379/00s-overunity-coil-lenz-killer/
Quote from: F6FLT on 2023.01.17, 15:59:46
Why don't you take this "easy step" if it is so easy, and give us the recipe for free energy?
It appears he did take this "easy step" and is trying to show us OU
Edit- But now an OU member is questioning the legitimacy of the measurements. And raises valid concerns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOkvz5jfZ6g&t=161s
The Claim:4320 watts in
8645 Watts out
Gain of 4325 watts.
Ourunity- Your showing more out than In. Have you tried looping it? Can you show us with a resistive load?
Good observation by a member on OU..
In the video here- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOkvz5jfZ6g&t=161s where it is claimed OU, how could 2 induction motors with no load be pulling 4,000 watts each?
https://overunity.com/19379/00s-overunity-coil-lenz-killer/msg574995/ <---- reply #12
For two motors power consumption we called Weg about the motor power when idling and the readings on the inverter. Their answer was that every motor normally uses half of the rated power.
When comparing inverter's reading and the reading from our meters, usually the tolerances are around 30 W. We contacted two local motor repair shops with the same question. The answer was that they usually go by a inverter's reading as they are more accurate. For consumption of the motors they stated the same as Weg.
On the internet whatever we could read it was the same. If one wants to go any further, they will have to confirm this for themselves. As far as we can see, we are not doing anything different then what everyone else in the industry is doing.
The blue motor is 7.5 kw or 10HP. When connected in front of the generator, which is driving another motor, a load of 3900W could be achieved on the load motor. As soon as a load was increased to 4000W the blue motor is taking a nosedive.
On our web, the last video is a test of our motor without load and with a motor under load. Input AC amperage did not change only DC power going through the mosfet increased around one amp.
Conclusion – This is the first electric motor built with how electricity works exactly.
No heat regardless of load
Much higher torque is achieved
For us it is enough to start a new path.
Best Regards
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.03.10, 01:48:01
For two motors power consumption we called Weg about the motor power when idling and the readings on the inverter. Their answer was that every motor normally uses half of the rated power.
When comparing inverter's reading and the reading from our meters, usually the tolerances are around 30 W. We contacted two local motor repair shops with the same question. The answer was that they usually go by a inverter's reading as they are more accurate. For consumption of the motors they stated the same as Weg.
On the internet whatever we could read it was the same. If one wants to go any further, they will have to confirm this for themselves. As far as we can see, we are not doing anything different then what everyone else in the industry is doing.
The blue motor is 7.5 kw or 10HP. When connected in front of the generator, which is driving another motor, a load of 3900W could be achieved on the load motor. As soon as a load was increased to 4000W the blue motor is taking a nosedive.
On our web, the last video is a test of our motor without load and with a motor under load. Input AC amperage did not change only DC power going through the mosfet increased around one amp.
Conclusion – This is the first electric motor built with how electricity works exactly.
No heat regardless of load
Much higher torque is achieved
For us it is enough to start a new path.
Best Regards
What are the input / output numbers with a resistive load?
I am not trying to discredit, as I believe there may be an efficiency gain. And it may be worth pursuing.
It's just there was an Overunity claim made in the video. Does this overunity result only manifest with a reactive load (ie. induction device) or with a resistive load also?
As I pointed out in my other thread, I can use an amp clamp and multimeter to show a motor consuming 3X the input power. But as soon as I use a resistive load, it's under unity. When I did it, I thought I had OU at first, until I wrapped my mind around the chain of events that's happening in a motor from induction and what the amp clamp is seeing.
Honestly, you don't want to be the guy who makes an OU claim then refuses to show any other load except a questionable one, then answer by telling people you will have to try it yourself. It's much more honorable to show how it reacts with a resistive load even if you do not like the results. People respect builders even when they fail. But there is no respect given to someone who purposely fabricates results by selectively choosing loads that appear to show the outcome they desire and refuse to acknowledge results that do not conform to the desired conclusion.
We definitely have been trying different tests but nothing that has been tested by a third party.
We are building our own load bank to see if we can do something with it.
Load banks are very expensive and we cannot find any to rent around us.
Today's motor, in a previous post test, was pushing a generator with 7.5kw and couldn't go over 3950w. Our motor in the same situation, from 0 to 4600w, lost one amp. It could be one good comparison.
Thanks
Newton's Third Law of Motion states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
From Google : What this means is that pushing on an object causes that object to push back against you, the exact same amount, but in the opposite direction. For example, when you are standing on the ground, you are pushing down on the Earth with the same magnitude of force that it is pushing back up at you.
Now we are learning that there is more to it than what we could see at first glance. ly. Nature's law could be expressed a little differently:
EVERY ACTION CREATES ITS OWN REACTION ..INSTANTANEOUSLY
When someone is investing in a project, that requires a knowledge about electricity, then he must have 100% accuracy with information and knowledge or the project will not succeed.
It is the same with the wave cycle. Nature's wave cycle is the action/reaction cycle not man's plus/minus cycle. Through generations we accepted what had been taught but in reality, with a few tests and experimentation, all of this could have been corrected.
We already have on our web, the test for the action/reaction cycle, which electricity uses to create the physical world.
A new video of a coil working with that idea, where action and reaction, are working simultaneously when power is applied to the coil will be ready shortly. All of those tests are very easy to be done. Someone just has to take the time and good reasoning to find out what is happening and which idea will bring better results.
One of the biggest puzzle for all of us is or it should be – why is something that is so important for our energy sector, left untouched for over 100 years?
I see that many are trying to copy older models for new inventions to improve on them. However, firstly, we should see how many of them have been successfully copied and put to use. What we have to make a note of is that most of those inventors didn't know how electricity works exactly, which is about the same today.
We all have heard about suppression of technologies. One fact is that nobody can suppress our knowledge. The more we learn and know, the faster we can move forward. We cannot rely anymore on second hand knowledge, that we have been taught, in our schools and lived by it all of our lives.
The building blocks of the universe are very simple and a must to know if we are attempting to accomplish further growth.
The first principle of electricity would be action and reaction wave cycle which must be understood thoroughly, if we want to do anything with electricity. We made a very small video of how an action and reaction coil works simultaneously and have a much higher potential then today's + and – wave cycle.
Best Regards
ps: The video is about the action and reaction coil
www.e-unitysystems.ca/video/
HOW DO WE SOLVE OVER UNITY?
When electrification started in the late 1800's not much was known about electricity. Machinery was being built with that knowledge and it was very inefficient and poorly designed.
Today we know that electricity does not work as they assumed or, to put it differently, there is much more to electricity that we can't comprehend. In other words, their machinery was built under unity if we can call it this way.
This universe is infinite in its potential. There is no need to worry about reaching that point.
Humanity must always strive to be better!
All of man's laws are laws to limit us. They have no other purpose or value.
Just about all of the concepts about electricity are incorrect.
The sooner we throw away false teachings, the faster we can move forward.
For a century and a half we improved in all of the areas like chemistry, science, we flew to the moon but somehow the electric motor was stuck in time.
Our biggest stumbling blocks to future progress is man's rejection of a newer and innovative technology.
As they said a long time ago, when the time comes for a new idea to arrive, it is impossible to stop its effects.
Best Regards
ALL of Newtons "laws" are mere observations.
"Newton's Third Law of Motion states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."
It is an OPPOSITE and then Equal reaction. To say its equal and then add an opposite is contradictory.
There is an OPPOSITE to everything and its Equal in its opposite effect.
so.... For every action there is an opposite but equal reaction.
This can be demonstrated with a car battery. To get the Opposite or other side of the Energy from a battery, or harvest the 2 way flow between the terminals, Flatten the battery and it wont light a bulb, but to place a COIL between the terminals of a flat battery will give the Opposite charge and it is Equal, from the battery and now start your car on a flat battery. On a fully charged Battery we "SEE" the current from the Neg to the Pos only because the North Pole Magnetism or Direct Current magnetism of the North Pole is stronger than the south pole. If you could SEE auras, you would be able to SEE this.
Such is the disturbed nature of mans indoctrination
Newton did not consider mucless SEE the Aether Energies adding to the Physical manifestations of the 4 Elemental states of Matter. This means this theory is also a crock of shite. And its whjy we do over unity research because our RACE MEMORY knows better (also called Instinct or past life memories) Newton didnt even know how the human body is an Aetheric Energy Body.... Only oxygen from the Air powers this dynamo. Food is just marbles that magically assemble to repair wounds etc.
Joe and I have gotten OVER UNITY in so many ways I've lost count and Joe pulls apart a lot of them after assemblage.
Its that Esoteric thing again. His Eyes See the Magnetic Fields and how to place magnets to give overunity that ordinary humans do not have and thus do not believe in the Saints Abilities to Heal with one's own battery terminals (hands) and the Brain as a battery for hands on healing like raising the dead or curing the blind. So they go to Health experts and get Vaxxed.... and then die suddenly. You couldnt make this up. Some cant even define what a woman is and envisage a tranny without SEEING the screwed up energy field about these people.
Like does not attract like. Its an abomination in nature and a disturbance in the Field that well placed baghdad battery electrodes can actually fix.
We "solve" overunity by going to some one with esoteric Vision and make a Deal. Its how I did it and its very diffi Cult to believe in for 3rd eye blind humans who have little faith in a Mental Universe.
end of rant.
Thanks Merlynn - for correcting my mistake. I should have written equal in potential and opposite in charge. I guess you can see right away that this is not my native language.
We "solve" over unity by knowing electricity. As soon as we switch to action and reaction coils, it would be one solution. But, if we think a little more about it, we just have to be better then the very poorly-built machinery, that was built with the assumption of how electricity works. For a century and a half, our engineering community, could not pass a small stumbling block, even though the knowledge has been there.
I think Mr. Tesla was the only one, that in the late 1930's tried to correct the mistakes, but it was too late for him. As far as I can see, this should have been overcome a long time ago. I guess we can say, this is one of the biggest insults to human intelligence, as far I can see it anyway.
Best Regards
This is common in scientific jargon. To make a statement of claim and then add exceptions to the rule.
I believe Newtons 3 laws are all "wrong" and purposely so to keep the truth from public view and thus control INVENTIONS.
One doent ask where's the equal to this, one asks wheres the Opposite to this and it will be Equal in its actions.
By asking for the equal and then the opposite, it 'conditions' the mind or thought process to not look or even think any further. Who cares what is equal to it and out goes the opposite 'action'.
Gravity has NO opposite or equal... But newton thought of it as a force and Asleeples forgot the "Law" because it 'ambiguous' and think it doesnt apply well because we all know gravity exists.... but it fails the Duality of the Universe test. Where is Newtons famous opposite and equal of gravity? There is none because Gravity is a Magnetic Force but dont mention magnetics.... there's none in the Atom.... so if you want to Pass with High Distinction, You'd better not think for yourself and just parrot Gravity is a "force"... and so they do.
We have been Lied to for so long, people expect to be lied to and dont care anymore.
Im here to fix that. Even if its ruffles the hairs of the electron marble brains.
This opposite and equal actions must be considered in any over unity apparatus yet no one does.
If the 'theory' of the electron has it with a Negative Charge, Where is the Opposite and equal charge to this Electron Action?
There is none.
Even Wall Thornhill, who trusted the science and the Au Govt, and Died Suddenly, knew the Electric Universe theory needed upwising.
Wall proposed or seconded a theory put forward that the electron might be DI-POLE just before he was poisoned.
Eventually it will become a di-pole and they will do away with the theoretical Neutral and the Proton and it will become a LIGHT STRUCTURE thats magnetic. Time will prove me right and nothing will prove electrons are the one size fits all energy manifestations.
But the most stupid of all theories is that an electron can collide with another electron and produce a photon or LIGHT.
Now we refer back to all them 'electrons' coming out of a battery, or oscillating back and forth in the AC wires from your toaster to the Power plant traveling in a Copper wire with lots of electrons in the copper wire and more of these little buggers colliding can now can make enough photons that the wires in the power lines can light up like an xmass tree, except they dont. Double think. Dissociative Cognizance at its finest for all who believe in electrons.
Yet people believe this because after 50 years of Fluoride and now the vaxx because they lost ALL critical thinking skills by design from our govt who cares for you.....
Old obsolete theories die along with their proponents... may Wall rest in peace.
Merlynn
QuoteThis is common in scientific jargon. To make a statement of claim and then add exceptions to the rule.
I believe Newtons 3 laws are all "wrong" and purposely so to keep the truth from public view and thus control INVENTIONS.
One doent ask where's the equal to this, one asks wheres the Opposite to this and it will be Equal in its actions.
By asking for the equal and then the opposite, it 'conditions' the mind or thought process to not look or even think any further. Who cares what is equal to it and out goes the opposite 'action'.
It helps to understand the proper explanation...https://openstax.org/books/university-physics-volume-1/pages/5-5-newtons-third-law
QuoteNewton's Third Law of Motion. Whenever one body exerts a force on a second body, the first body experiences a force that is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the force that it exerts.
Newton's third law represents a certain symmetry in nature: Forces always occur in pairs, and one body cannot exert a force on another without experiencing a force itself. We sometimes refer to this law loosely as "action-reaction," where the force exerted is the action and the force experienced as a consequence is the reaction.
At which point it's easy to understand...
QuoteGravity has NO opposite or equal... But newton thought of it as a force and Asleeples forgot the "Law" because it 'ambiguous' and think it doesnt apply well because we all know gravity exists.... but it fails the Duality of the Universe test. Where is Newtons famous opposite and equal of gravity?
In fact, there is a force which opposes the force of gravity.
For example, when dropping a heavy bowling ball and a ball of feathers the same size from a height why do the they hit the ground at the same time?. The solution is very easy but it's counterintuitive and most get it wrong. The gravitational force is greater on the heavier mass of the bowling ball however the inertia of the mass resisting an acceleration is also greater. As it turns out the greater inertia opposes the force on the greater mass which is why heavy objects fall at the same rate of acceleration as light ones at 9.81 m/s^2.
In effect, the inertia of a mass opposes the acceleration of the mass due to any applied force and the force of gravity is no exception. An accelerating car is opposed in the same way a falling object is. Thus it's easy to assume gravity is in fact a real force just like any other.
AC
Now we can see how easy it was to sidetrack one of the best electrical properties and turn it into something else.
Here are some facts that we are talking about.
Mr Newton's story is not complete.
Mr Einstein's formula is not complete. It accounts only for the first half of the cycle (the same as Mr. Newton's).
Mr Walter Russell's story has been sitting on the shelves for around 100 years, without finding any serious researchers, to test the validity of his knowledge.
We all know that today a wave has no precedence in nature. Cathodes and anodes are at the ends where the middle is never much of anything.
We see many facts that are contradictory in many ways, without having any desire to correct them.
The name research could definitely be raised to a much higher frequency.
Mr. Victor Schauberger advised us to copy nature but didn't tell us what nature looks like!!
Best Regards
HOW DOES ELECTRICITY FLOW?
In the beginning the belief was that the electric flow is plus to minus. A while back, someone had an idea and decided that the flow is from minus to plus. Most likely it has been done by the engineering or scientific community. Who would listen to us anyway?
Our knowledge and belief of today is that electricity flows from a cold cathode to a hot anode. This is how nature operates. When we work with electricity we usually have a higher potential, say 220 V. Is this potential trying to find its zero equilibrium at rest, seeking a higher potential, or is it looking for the easiest escape towards ground?
Should this be debated or is the answer quite obvious?
The story about JUST an electric universe is the same.
It comes to us without any explanation and normally, we must believe in it.
I watched Wall from TB project many times and in his presentations, he never tried to elaborate any details of how that is structured.
Stories like this, that are pushing our belief systems into the opposite direction, are accepted by many.
Stories that come with total description of the idea and its working principles, videos and so on, are always totally rejected by man.
How can anyone create anything new without proper information??
Best Regards
AETHER
What I grasped from reading different books and papers about aether is that it is the building block of this universe, alpha and omega.
First we can start with the zero point energy, which is the still and fulcrum of the physical world. Not having motion, we cannot feel it in any way. For aether, we can say it is second dimension.
For us to feel cold, it has to have motion which is electricity. It is dark, very low frequency which slows down our eyes and nerves below our visual spectrum. When electricity acts on it, 3D is created. Our stars are compressed aether and aether is expanded stars. Frequency or vibration is like a trip from one compressed state of matter to expanded space and back again.
Somewhere they were saying that, to create the atom, it takes around 930 photons. Aether and the stars are the same composition, the only difference is in the volume and pressure.
Merlynn, thank you for sharing all of your knowledge.
I wish for you a wonderful year.
Best Regards
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.24, 02:09:10
What I grasped from reading different books and papers about aether is that it is the building block of this universe, alpha and omega.
Every theory rests on a set of axioms.
It is like saying "
grant me that and I will boot up a universe for you from it".
There is nothing wrong with this approach. There is not any different way to start, really.
Axioms do not require justification for their existence nor for their properties, BUT these properties MUST be defined rigorously. The entire universe must logically follow from these properties. It is preferable that these properties are very simple in order to keep the assumptions to the minimum or the theory will assert a lot and not explain much.
Writing that aether is the alpha and omega, is tantamount to declaring aether as such starting axiom albeit without defining its properties.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.24, 02:09:10
First we can start with the zero point energy, which is the still and fulcrum of the physical world.
You just lost me with that statement.
Decide what the starting axiom is - the "aether" or the "zero point energy" and which one follows from the other.
Most importantly, define its properties first ...rigorously!
If you fail to do this I will classify your reasoning as unworthy of my time and I will ignore your posts on the subject. ...but I will not delete them.
ZERO POINT ENERGY
To describe it we can start with some examples.
Infrared and ultraviolet rays that are leaving the sun – the only way that this can be accomplished is through waves. Waves are like a vacuum tube. Each motion is sealed from other motions or motion could not be possible. Wave expands in a cube ratio throughout space, and then converges when approaching planets and moons.
Each wave is a cube that is divided into 2 chambers which we call plus and minus. In nature they are action and reaction. Some call them nature's projection system that is creating 3D images. Within the wave, are the cathodes where the octave rings are located and where 10 inner gases are situated. The inner gases are seeds of motion and life.
Now we can see that what we call empty space, is not empty at all. Whoever would like to know more, would have to take books like Mr Russell, Tesla and many others. With diagrams and more detailed explanations one is more able to grasp it easier.
Now we can see that nature's way and man's assumption about nature, is quite different and will have to be looked at with a different approach.
One of the reasons that humanity is not moving forward faster, is the understanding of the basic principles and laws of nature.
I hope this answers at least some of the workings of zero point energy.
I wish you all a wonderful year!
Best Regards
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Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.27, 04:06:28
ZERO POINT ENERGY
To describe it we can start with some examples.
No, you missed the point.
Fundamental axioms cannot be described in terms of other things.
Anyway, have you decided that "zero point energy" is the fundamental axiom and not the "aether" which you have designated as the "alpha and omega" before ?
How about trying to understand, instead of coming up with your conventional interpretations, instead.
This is about non physical sources. And this is a free energy forum. Not your closed system devices needing to pay the man, to play that game, instead.
Is that what you want, proff? You got it....Just keep paying your $300 electric bill each month. And continue to reject what we are here for.
Real scientists do not waste their time posting here, all day long, every day. Like you do, proff. Just to let us know how wrong we are. As if you really care...
NickZ
Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.27, 23:06:21
No, you missed the point.
Fundamental axioms cannot be described in terms of other things.
Anyway, have you decided that "zero point energy" is the fundamental axiom and not the "aether" which you have designated as the "alpha and omega" before ?
Axioms meaning (a statement or proposition which is regarded as being established, accepted, or self-evidently true).
You have a problem here with that statement since if that's true then we don't exist ! and perhaps you now have a bigger conundrum to explain.
So where does this universe and every thing in it come from and the energy in it and who or what created it in the first place.
So how long and who planted this belligerent and hostile fixed view in your head ?
Since you don't really know whats what since your quoting something other actions strongly suggest your just guessing or cumming up with ignorant hypothesises mind games that have no actual foundations most probably to support some other motive.
The point is in the quantum world of entanglement nothing is cut and dried.
Sil
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After the story of "Big Bang", there were more lies to deceive us from the truth.
Don't just keep repeating it like a parrot. Everything did not come from nothing in one big bang.
Perhaps you can ask Verpies about the Big Bang. The only thing we may agree on.
BTW: Do you have anything to say about free energy? No? Just copy and paste distractions...
NickZ
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Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.12.28, 08:00:47
You have a problem here with that statement since if that's true then we don't exist ! and perhaps you now have a bigger conundrum to explain.
It's not like this problem does not have a solution.
For example this video (https://youtu.be/I7z26d8IsUc) tackles that problem but I don't know if you have the brain power to understand it.
Quote from: stivep on 2023.12.28, 16:07:19
Mater and antimatter cancel themselves into energy fluctuation, but when in imbalance they create matter in its classical mechanics form.
That is a very astute observation.
I would extend it even further that the deviation from the speed of light is responsible for all phenomena ...including matter.
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.28, 01:06:14
How about trying to understand, instead of coming up with your conventional interpretations, instead.
You do not know me at all. I think that any new theory must encompass the one it is replacing as a special case.
My interpretation of the so-called reality is very far from conventional.
For example I do not even consider space and time as fundamental. I think it is emergent and a prison for our minds like a VR headset. Physics is merely the study of this headset.
Is anyone here interested in my rebuttal of Nick's statements ? I've done it many times before and I don't think doing it again will do any good.
I'm afraid that the discussion of the nature of reality might be considered too off-topic for this forum ...or too distracting from its mission.
Really, well looks like no one wants to hear your thoughts about free energy. As you don't seem to have any, ever.
Makes me wonder...
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.28, 21:28:45
Really, well looks like no one wants to hear your thoughts about free energy.
Don't presume to speak for other members.
You have jumped to your very biased and hostile conclusion less than 10min after my reply ...and between major holidays.
Isn't that amazing? I guess that I'm quick on the draw.
Are you going to start your sermons again?
And no comments about what we are here for. Did you forget, or you been teaming up with Wesley. To distract us from what you both think is impossible, free energy. Seams like it...but of course, I don't know you at all
NickZ
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Hi Verpies
I think it is quite evident that without a wave there is no motion or matter. Centripetal force takes matter from without and squeezes it to the center. Centrifugal force pushes it from the center to the opposite side.
This is zero energy in action.
Statement about aether is there so that the reader can see its role is in the second place. Aether has length and width. When electricity acts on it, it extends it adding thickness. Thus 3D is created.
Nothing in nature has only one dimension.
Zero point energy has no physical properties so it cannot be called first dimension.
If motion cannot be created without zero then zero is always always first.
I hope this clears up all misconceptions.
Best Regards
PS In my opinion, we are one century behind with this discussion.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
I think it is quite evident that without a wave there is no motion or matter.
It is not evident at all.
Waves move. So motion seems to be prerequisite to a wave, not the other way around.
As a side note: motion cannot exist without space or time.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
Centripetal force takes matter from without and squeezes it to the center. Centrifugal force pushes it from the center to the opposite side.
You have not defined the cause of the force. You have not explained how matter arises from these waves.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
Aether has length and width.
That is the way to do it !
Finally someone is defining properties of an axiomatic object.
Length and width are perpendicular to each other by definition so this is tantamount to making it 2-dimensional ..like a plane.
There is a lot missing here though: Is it a single unbounded plane or multiple bounded planes ? In case of the latter - what is their orientation to each other ?
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
When electricity acts on it, it extends it adding thickness. Thus 3D is created.
Do you have a mechanism by which this extension occurs or is it a separate axiom ?
Even then, electric current has direction, the aforementioned plane/planes have them, too. Thus there is an angle between them. How does "extending the thickness" depend on this angle ?
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
Nothing in nature has only one dimension.
So you disallow lines but allow planes and volumes.
Do you gave any justification for such preferential treatment ?
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
Zero point energy has no physical properties so it cannot be called first dimension.
Does it have non-physical properties ?
Is it an axiom or is it defined in terms of mass and force (i.e. centripetal) ?
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
If motion cannot be created without zero...
Why not?
Why can't motion at the speed of light be the natural datum, from which all other speeds are measured ?
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
I hope this clears up all misconceptions.
Absolutely not!
It raises even more questions. Just count my question marks.
It presupposes space and time, too.
Quote from: ourunity on 2023.12.30, 04:32:49
PS In my opinion, we are one century behind with this discussion.
Is there anyone further ahead who we are behind ?
verpies
QuoteWaves move. So motion seem prerequisite to a wave, not the other way around.
As a side note: motion cannot exist without space or time.
I would agree something must be moving first or the notion of a wave is meaningless.
On a side note, motion defines space and time not vice versa. In fact time is just a measure of motion first based on Sun/season cycles which then evolved to mass/inertia systems ie. clocks. Time and space are not something they are a measure of something, motion/change always comes first. The first principal or first cause is motion and everything else we know is deduced from this. This must be true because if nothing moved then the notion of time and space would be meaningless.
I suspect a truly advanced civilization wouldn't use our primitive notion of time. Universal time must be able to be applied universally not based on something as primitive as the Sun cycles of one planet. A universal unit of time would probably use atomic oscillations or the speed of light as it's base. That's the thing isn't it, we are still so primitive we don't even realize how primitive we are.
I suspect that once more people start traveling in space and occupying other planets most of our primitive conventions will be abandoned. I mean the notion of a day is almost as absurd as the notion of weight in outer space. Everything is "weightless" in space and only mass-inertia has any relevance.
You see, if were going to become an advanced civilization then we are going to have to start thinking on a more advanced level.
AC
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.30, 17:41:18
On a side note, motion defines space and time not vice versa.
I could agree with that, but I would like to propose that this relationship is bidirectional.
How about space and time being two different aspects of motion, just like two sides of the same coin.
Additionally, notice that a simple mathematical relationship can be defined between space and time in the equation of motion. Would you like to jot it down ?
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.30, 17:41:18
The first principal or first cause is motion and everything else we know is deduced from this.
I agree
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.30, 17:41:18
This must be true because if nothing moved then the notion of time and space would be meaningless.
Yes, when you think about it this way, there appears to be an absolute requirement for "something" to move, for "something" to define that motion ...and then you are left with the insurmountable task of finding that elusive "something"...which brings you back to the proverbial square one.
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.30, 17:41:18
we are going to have to start thinking on a more advanced level.
Indeed there is a way to think on such an advanced level. I reveal it in the next paragraph:
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.30, 17:41:18
I would agree something must be moving first ...
Here, I would like to propose a novel idea to you. It might be hard for your mind to wrap around it at first, but please give it a chance. Here it goes: "On the most fundamental level, motion is just a relationship between a quantity of space and time ...and a moving object is not necessary to define this relationship." In other words: an objectless motion exists.
Did you experience an epiphany or revulsion when reading the above ?
verpies
QuoteI could agree with that, but I would like to propose that this relationship is bidirectional.
How about space and time being two different aspects of motion, just like two sides of the same coin.
Additionally, notice that a simple mathematical relationship can be defined between space and time in the equation of motion. Would you like to jot it down ?
Space and time are properties used to describe motion. Space the distance traveled, time the period it takes to move through said distance to calculate the velocity or extent of motion.
QuoteYes, when you think about it this way, there appears to be an absolute requirement for "something" to move, for "something" to define that motion ...and then you are left with the insurmountable task of finding that elusive "something"...which brings you back to the proverbial square one.
Not at all and it's not that difficult to understand. High energy bodies like stars emit massive amounts of moving particles and changing EM waves which saturate the vacuum of space. The particles in atoms also interact with each others motional EM fields through the vacuum between the particles. The common thread is obviously the changing fields which constitutes motion, a motional field as a wave. So we have energy as moving particles or moving fields and it is the motion/change which constitutes all energy.
QuoteHere, I would like to propose a novel idea to you. It might be hard for your mind to wrap around it at first, but please give it a chance. Here it goes: "On the most fundamental level, motion is just a relationship between a quantity of space and time ...and a moving object is not necessary to define this relationship." In other words: an objectless motion exists.
I think you highlighted the problem, "motion is just a relationship between a quantity of space and time" which is false. Motion is tangible, it is real and observable. Space(distance) and time are simply measures we use to calculate the extent of motion. Like many your confusing a measure of something with the thing being measured. I mean, according to your logic, a 2x4 is just the relationship between the spaces on my tape measure not a piece of lumber. I think we need to get back to reality and common sense.
AC