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Title: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.08, 18:50:24
Hello everybody,

This is my first message/topic on this forum. Currently trying to setup a little power source for domestic usage like heating and running appliances.

The system will comprise a radiant energy collection as per Tesla invention being the main power source, where whatever electricity collects will be used to heat a 200-300 litres of water. For heating water I intend to use a little device using "Dumas Effect" . Then add another setup or more for powering appliances.

The main purpose is to avoid huge power banks which are extremely expensive as radiant energy collection can provide 24/7 not like solar or wind systems and in same time trying to keep most of home wiring intact ... I'm quite reluctant to use wireless power transfer in the house to power each appliance.

It looks like almost all solution for each step can be found in this forum as far as I can see. Anyone interested for team work ?
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: e2matrix on 2023.07.09, 00:19:36
Although I've been involved in and followed alternate energy for around 40 years I don't recall hearing about the 'Dumas effect' (although that might be a bit of older overburdened memory) but I see with a bit of Google searching some interesting info on it.  One site is here:  https://www.effet-dumas.org/en/

Interested in anything you can share from personal experience with this.  Water has some extremely unique properties.   

BTW Welcome to the forum.   O0
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.09, 08:50:36
Quote from: e2matrix on 2023.07.09, 00:19:36
Although I've been involved in and followed alternate energy for around 40 years I don't recall hearing about the 'Dumas effect' (although that might be a bit of older overburdened memory) but I see with a bit of Google searching some interesting info on it.  One site is here:  https://www.effet-dumas.org/en/

Interested in anything you can share from personal experience with this.  Water has some extremely unique properties.   

BTW Welcome to the forum.   O0

Thank you for welcome message. Indeed Dumas effect that I have made reference is this.
http://www.rexresearch.com/dumas/dumas.htm
There is some more info about his device in open source if anyone wants to build it ... lately I barely can find real info as is buried in thousands of not really useful info for those ordinary people with little skills that might attempt to build/use for their benefit.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.09, 14:11:57
May want to consider Ainslies' circuit:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enGB1046GB1046&oq=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&aqs=chrome..69i57.782039j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e96bd99,vid:UGCC3Lewwdw (https://www.google.com/search?q=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enGB1046GB1046&oq=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&aqs=chrome..69i57.782039j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e96bd99,vid:UGCC3Lewwdw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtj0Akjpv0&t=198s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtj0Akjpv0&t=198s)

https://overunity.com/13743/rosemary-ainslie-quantum-magazine-circuit-cop-17-claims/15/ (https://overunity.com/13743/rosemary-ainslie-quantum-magazine-circuit-cop-17-claims/15/)

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/inductive-resistor/4460-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie/page101

Or any number of similar "Radiant energy" designs
They are all supposed to achieve an identical (if not very similar) end result regardless of approach taken.

Think tangentially!


I find the B-emmf / HHO stuff fascinating, personally
Just a tad risky and expensive compared with simpler projects

I'm sure there are permutations of known designs that have yet to be experimented with.
Nowhere near enough interest in all of this IMO

Always good to see more solo researchers get involved :)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Paul-R on 2023.07.09, 22:35:13
Quote from: Classic on 2023.07.08, 18:50:24
For heating water I intend to use a little device using "Dumas Effect" ... Anyone interested for team work ?

To avoid repetition, the first thing to do is to put "Dumas" into this site's search box. You will find plenty of posts to start on. The same applies to "Ainslie".
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.10, 20:09:03
Quote from: Excelsior on 2023.07.09, 14:11:57
May want to consider Ainslies' circuit:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enGB1046GB1046&oq=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&aqs=chrome..69i57.782039j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e96bd99,vid:UGCC3Lewwdw (https://www.google.com/search?q=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enGB1046GB1046&oq=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&aqs=chrome..69i57.782039j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e96bd99,vid:UGCC3Lewwdw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtj0Akjpv0&t=198s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtj0Akjpv0&t=198s)

https://overunity.com/13743/rosemary-ainslie-quantum-magazine-circuit-cop-17-claims/15/ (https://overunity.com/13743/rosemary-ainslie-quantum-magazine-circuit-cop-17-claims/15/)

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/inductive-resistor/4460-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie/page101

Or any number of similar "Radiant energy" designs
They are all supposed to achieve an identical (if not very similar) end result regardless of approach taken.

Think tangentially!


I find the B-emmf / HHO stuff fascinating, personally
Just a tad risky and expensive compared with simpler projects

I'm sure there are permutations of known designs that have yet to be experimented with.
Nowhere near enough interest in all of this IMO

Always good to see more solo researchers get involved :)

Thank you for reply, is much appreciated.

My intention is to keep everything as simple as possible as and as cheap as possible. Also I am aiming to have a system working by the end of august 2023 if possible and must be open source, free for anyone, domestic or commercial. Available for almost anyone to build and use as they please whenever they please.

So I'm trying to stick with some solutions that are already in use or largely available for domestic hot water and heating, while using existing setups with minimum or no modification where is possible.

A real alternative to huge grid centralised energy distribution without any form of weather dependant means of energy production like solar and wind, or something in the sea where any act of war or vandalism could render them unavailable.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Paul-R on 2023.07.10, 21:40:33
Quote from: Classic on 2023.07.10, 20:09:03
Thank you for reply, is much appreciated.

My intention is to keep everything as simple as possible as and as cheap as possible. Also I am aiming to have a system working by the end of august 2023 if possible and must be open source, free for anyone, domestic or commercial. Available for almost anyone to build and use as they please whenever they please.

So I'm trying to stick with some solutions that are already in use or largely available for domestic hot water and heating, while using existing setups with minimum or no modification where is possible.

A real alternative to huge grid centralised energy distribution without any form of weather dependant means of energy production like solar and wind, or something in the sea where any act of war or vandalism could render them unavailable.

If you check the work done on this site youo wiull save a lot of time and trouble.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.11, 09:33:00
Quote from: Paul-R on 2023.07.10, 21:40:33
If you check the work done on this site youo wiull save a lot of time and trouble.
Many thanks for your reply is much appreciated. I wonder if you can be more specific, I really am keen to have it done as fast as possible.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Paul-R on 2023.07.11, 10:35:22
Quote from: Classic on 2023.07.11, 09:33:00
Many thanks for your reply is much appreciated. I wonder if you can be more specific, I really am keen to have it done as fast as possible.

At the top of this page:

HOME HELP SEARCH PROFILE ... etc. etc.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.13, 22:06:55
Quote from: Paul-R on 2023.07.11, 10:35:22
At the top of this page:

HOME HELP SEARCH PROFILE ... etc. etc.

Not really helpful but I still appreciate good intentions  O0

The principle of a working device is pretty simple: collector of energy, conditioning of energy, usage. I'm not aiming for megawatts, just simple things to get some energy independence from unscrupulous business and gov.

Why I chose to use a simple device for Dumas Effect ? Because is simple and very easy to make, only needed 3 scoops from an ice cream scooper, drill some holes, weld 2 together with a bolt use some plastic washers, connect to the socket. Attach it to an energy harvester and the system is heating your house for free or at least for much less ... while your personal contribution to pollution is decreasing drastically.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.14, 02:46:06
If you can build something that either amplifies overall system power, or self runs 24/7 by way of external input (with useful load attached) (That is not a dam); then

LET US KNOW ASAP !

Many thousands of people are working on this problem .. (Just not hard enough, I think)

Or perhaps intentions change when the truth is revealed ..

Only one way to know  O0
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.14, 09:34:20
Quote from: Excelsior on 2023.07.14, 02:46:06
If you can build something that either amplifies overall system power, or self runs 24/7 by way of external input (with useful load attached) (That is not a dam); then

LET US KNOW ASAP !

Many thousands of people are working on this problem .. (Just not hard enough, I think)

Or perhaps intentions change when the truth is revealed ..

Only one way to know  O0

Please name at least 1 invention patented by Nikola Tesla that isn't working. If you find it let me know ASAP 😎

Somewhere in the world I am aware of at least 2 devices doing the work for 2kw and least, I won't say anything else as inventors are aware of many forums including this and they choose to use other ways disclosing their devices.

I find insulting and intriguing to see active users on many forums that deny over unity and being let to build ostensibly theories against free to use energy siding perfectly with suppression for mass release.

I will make full disclosure at the right moment just in spite of them as many of us us gather strength as we know everything is watched closely and they are trying to limit in any manner freedom of movement and information.
And I'm not impressed by latest attempts of tracking me at all.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.14, 13:32:15
Just for clarity, no sarcasm was implied on my part,

My comment was genuine,

Big bold letters reinforce the importance of what I said, applies to anyone reading

I too am upset by how relatively little interest there is in the possibility & subsequent development of a personal, looped OU generator system.

I would like very much, as would many others, to know what else Tesla devised that we are not privy to
(Docs confiscated at his death by CIA) Who knows what was in them?? (CIA are also said to have originated the term "conspiracy theory")
There has been enough known mass psyops throughout history that I wouldn't doubt it tbh.

The truth should need not defending! (Although sadly, it would appear as though it does in a sense)


PS. Who's tracking you ??
That's a curious statement if there ever was one

Wishing you success in your findings.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.07.14, 17:16:36
Excelsior
QuotePS. Who's tracking you ??
That's a curious statement if there ever was one

Not really and it's basically a given.

Anyone with decent antivirus/security software can see everyone is continually trying to be hacked. It's kind of strange how naive most people are.
Having been in the loop and knowing others who were as well I can say with certainty that if you made any credible FE claims your being monitored.

A better question is, if your working on a billion dollar tech which could effect a trillion dollar industry why wouldn't they be monitoring you?. Most tech companies already monitor people and sell there info just so they can sell some crappy ads. Think about it, do you think facebook is just a crappy message app?. It's literally designed to steal all your information which is then sold to whomever is willing to pay. How do you think they can make billions of dollars off a message app?, it's not because your friends, lol.

The cool part is once we know were being watched then we can feed them false info just to mess them up. They get off thinking there clever when there actually being duped, lol.

AC






Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.14, 17:33:17
Really ? 🤣

I just noticed that level of tracking has increased and I still don't care. Any attempt for whatever devices that is able to produce some work is a threat for big tech Co and energy mass production. Imagine 10.00 houses per month that will give up on gas and electric ... sounds like a disruption ?  ;D
https://www.mouser.co.uk/c/embedded-solutions/energy-harvesting-modules/ (https://www.mouser.co.uk/c/embedded-solutions/energy-harvesting-modules/) what do you think about scale up ?

As you can see there is plenty opportunities and many ways to achieve if someone have necessary determination and the beauty is you don't even need to be a scientist 🤭
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.14, 20:14:39
Opps, wrong thread
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.16, 10:07:13
If anyone here is good with math can figure out a formula for harvesting energy where we have an unlimited input that will lead to an unlimited output, conversion of energy must done accordingly with the form of energy we plan to use. Any loses in the system will account for efficiency of the system we create ... if we fail to harvest or we have >100% loses, output is <1 unit

So, think of a 2 magnets facing same Pole each other and we force them against each other ... I know you will say that we spend energy to force them, but things will be different if 1st magnet is placed on a solid surface and 2nd magnet is pressed against in a constraint by a mass being a heavy thing ... this is image that help understand this method let's say. If anyone dare to go this way I would recommend to keep all conclusions for themselves and any kind of demos, vids etc. as they will bring the doom upon themselves otherwise as military and intelligence always watching and they don't employ any scrupulous method.

In terms of radiant energy we only need to create a disruption in order to harvest, by shorting 2 fields that have a potential difference at a high (or the right) fervency where the local environment will start to balance its own entropy as it sees its an developing anomaly. There is probably an infinite methods to tap into this energy and extract the exact form that we want to employ to power up our "little things". We can use: sound, magnetic, electric, kinetic, radiation ... anything we can think off as 2 fields of the same kind with a potential difference. Just pay attention the way you connect the fields and avoid all loses you can until disruption is created.

Only if you can afford start to experiment with this and always chase the outcome not the use of expensive testing equipment. If you manage to get any kind of output in the form desired, amplify 1 way to the disruption point and make sure the opposite field has a large clear way to bring its force to fight ... collection of energy must happen on the second field where we don't interact as it will be our FE. This is the working principle of over unity device and I still call it over unity as we only need to supply a little input to collect a large output. The greater little input is using chemo physical properties of materials used for disturbance, the greater is the output.

Do not abuse any extraction, take only what you really need, when you need.

P.S. don't let yourself being distracted in little arguments, ignore naysayers ... always follow your natural instincts.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.16, 13:34:12
I'll quote Terence Mckenna yet again, as I feel it applies:

You matter, you count. You come from realms of unimaginable power and light, and you will return to those realms. You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: e2matrix on 2023.07.17, 04:34:39
Quote from: Excelsior on 2023.07.16, 13:34:12
I'll quote Terence Mckenna yet again, as I feel it applies:

You matter, you count. You come from realms of unimaginable power and light, and you will return to those realms. You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.

Sorry to say that sounds like a word salad from VP Harris.  And while I don't disagree with parts of his statement I'm not sure how relevant it is here.  So the below won't be sticking to opening topic but some may find it interesting in regards to McKenna.
Terence McKenna may have been a creative user of words but in my personal experience with him he was a bit of a fool with little common sense.   Why do I say that?   Based on my personal experience he nearly got both of us killed.  I was a hang glider pilot and I had flown with some of the best in the world.  I knew the world champion and nationals champion personally.  The world champion hang glider pilot at that time would hang out in my van while we were waiting for conditions to improve.  We'd go to lunch at the local diner in the Bay area flying spot.  In an informal contest I out flew the world champion.   I was a good pilot and knew this flying spot well and the protocols for it. 

     One day Terence McKenna shows up to fly there.  There was a certain point along the cliff soaring path where nearly
everyone would turn 180 to go back along the cliff edge when wind conditions were not real strong.   Without getting into all
the technical details I'll just say no one with any common sense would be following another glider super close at that turning
point and not even any other time was it good to be real close behind someone unless you both had arranged something ahead
of time.  I was at the turning point and did a tight 180 to stay in the lift close to the cliff edge.  He was right behind and slightly
above my glider making it nearly impossible to see him.  Upon making the 180 I came face to face with McKenna.  We almost
crashed head on but I dove under him knowing it might mean I'd lose enough lift that I might have to land on the beach below
and carry my 70 pound glider back up the 200 foot sandy cliff face.   Fortunately I managed to regain enough lift to land back
on top.   Later McKenna came up to me to comment how close my kingpost came to him as I dove my glider under him.   It
was obvious he was very full of himself.  No common sense - at least in the way of flying.  Maybe he spent too much time
flying on psychedelics.  He may have impressed some people with his word salads and his advocacy of plant based
psychedelics but I think he lacked good old common sense. 
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.17, 09:37:27
Very helpful last 2 comments, thank you
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Paul-R on 2023.07.17, 09:54:59
Quote from: Excelsior on 2023.07.16, 13:34:12
... because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.


It depends upon whether this understanding is accurate orf inaccurate.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.17, 10:19:02
@ e2matrix
Couldn't hope for a more interesting reply! (even if our opinions vary somewhat, I have listened to many of his talks on YT)
That's a fascinating story!

Regrading "what is to be done??" as he put it, in the macro, I think he was on point personally.

I don't agree with everything he said or implied but what he stated ad nauseum regarding psilocybin / related tryptamines and/or endogenous botanical compounds, and their place in nature, has indeed since been revealed to have been truthful through extensive (ongoing) research (and then some, already!)
The studies are quite revealing for those with eyes to see.. (Neurogenesis can occur from psilocin ingestion  :o)
Should make you wonder why it's still illegal anywhere if the LD50 is 280mg/kg C.C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eu9GfHCpVo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eu9GfHCpVo)

Even if he seemed somewhat pretentious at times, he occupied an unusual position being involved with academia but also a hub for countercultural movement at the time.. I'd say that's a lot to take on and he'd have faced his fair share of stigma I imagine.
(As many of us do for our assertions)

I quote him here despite it being slightly out of place, as I feel he offered a well rounded perspective for the wayward individual.
I would equate Mckenna to the likes of Jung or Watts - Someone who wasn't afraid to "go" where no one else would.

There's knowledge and there's wisdom; serious researchers need both.

Knowledge is knowing a Tomato is a fruit
Wisdom is knowing whether or not to put it in a fruit salad!



@Paul R
I'd say that even the most articulated cognition can be further refined
In other words, you have to start somewhere!

None of us got into this with all the knowledge prior. We all need somewhere to start.
Even the most flawed and incomplete understanding is valuable as deadwood burns off and the perspective becomes more in tune with reality.
These early steps were most likely taken by even Oppenheimer, or Edison, or Tesla himself.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.07.17, 19:23:10
Excelsior
QuoteI quote him here despite it being slightly out of place, as I feel he offered a well rounded perspective for the wayward individual.
I would equate Mckenna to the likes of Jung or Watts - Someone who wasn't afraid to "go" where no one else would.

Indeed, this is a really good read...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/conformity

Here are a few highlights...

"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking."― John Kenneth Galbraith

"You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same."― Jonathan Davis

"If I decide to be an idiot, then I'll be an idiot on my own accord."― Johann Sebastian Bach

"It is a brave thing to have courage to be an individual; it is also, perhaps, a lonely thing. But it is better than not being an individual, which is to be nobody at all."― Eleanor Roosevelt

"Most people believe most of the things they believe only because they believe that most people believe them."― Mokokoma Mokhonoana

"Most sane human beings who are over the age of six usually act or react not as per what they genuinely feel or really think but in accordance with the expectations of those around them."― Mokokoma Mokhonoana

AC

Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.18, 21:39:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loay2imHq5E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loay2imHq5E)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: F6FLT on 2023.07.20, 17:15:31
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.07.17, 19:23:10
...
"The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking."― John Kenneth Galbraith
...

"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection" Henri Poincaré.

I think Poincaré is more subtle than Galbraith, because if it were enough to make the effort to challenge what is conventional in order to bring something new and valid, all the fools would be geniuses, the Einsteins could be counted in their millions.
Not everyone challenges the conventional out of intellectual laziness, but out of recognition of its validity and the awareness that they don't have anything better to offer (an awareness that fools don't have).
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.21, 12:50:17
Everyone reading this forum or any other forum needs to understand that it might not be any working device being shown that can do any work for more than an LED being lit up, as if you do it you put yourself in great danger.

There are at least few devices working somewhere in the world with another few hundreds on the way. All systems will have the output of what your components can handle it. There are many ways to achieve but all the systems will work based on Earth being seen as a component ... just try understand what Nikola Tesla already showed us.

You need to decide if you want a working device or just keep splitting the hair in thousands strings trying to agree or completely disagree. Trying to be an scientist means that you have to put up with all academia in the world and seems that nobody can win for various reasons.
So, just build as many as you can/afford release everything free for everyone and hopefully we can have a rate of production of 1000 per month in first 3 months ... than that's it.

It can be done by electronic components or just coils or both and is working ... very simple devices diy for domestic use.

Remember Tesla did it without fancy oscilloscopes and far less sophisticated modern technology. Keep it simple ... if you need resonance in yout coils do it by wire length otherwise you'll be tuning all your life possibly without success.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.22, 01:01:25
Guys!
I have something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-lsLvFCLo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-lsLvFCLo)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.22, 10:36:02
Quote from: Excelsior on 2023.07.22, 01:01:25
Guys!
I have something!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-lsLvFCLo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT-lsLvFCLo)

Great finding  ;D

I'm glad that you managed to disclose one of the devices that advertise ... keep the good work  O0

As we can see this system incorporate all elements and components that I already mention previous ... I can only say a very warm thank you  >:-)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.22, 11:26:56
Glad someone has a sense of humour !  O0

(No disrespect to the guy at all, mind)

I just found it hilarious in the context  ;D
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.22, 12:11:46
Quote from: Excelsior on 2023.07.22, 11:26:56
Glad someone has a sense of humour !  O0

(No disrespect to the guy at all, mind)

I just found it hilarious in the context  ;D

May I know what's the reason behind polluting topics ?
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.22, 20:08:41
I just found it funny that someone would go to that extent when they could have actually replicated a serious project  ;D
Skillful nonetheless..

I imagine some long term OU researchers feel like one of the squirrels by now.. with so many circles having been gone around ..
At least the possibilities have been whittled down to a select few! (many scams have been shown to be just that)

This is not to say, imo, something couldn't "break water" tomorrow (or at least soon given 8b. people on earth now)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.07.23, 05:29:08
Quote from: F6FLT on 2023.07.20, 17:15:31
"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection" Henri Poincaré.

I think Poincaré is more subtle than Galbraith, because if it were enough to make the effort to challenge what is conventional in order to bring something new and valid, all the fools would be geniuses, the Einsteins could be counted in their millions.
Not everyone challenges the conventional out of intellectual laziness, but out of recognition of its validity and the awareness that they don't have anything better to offer (an awareness that fools don't have).

I think it's problematic because "the conventional" obviously keeps changing.

Conventional simply means conforming to established practices or traditions of the current time period. I mean if the "conventional" is always valid why did we stop blood letting with leaches and drinking mercury for medicinal purposes?.

Many people cannot wrap there mind around this concept but the exponential growth of knowledge obliterated the conventional a long time ago. As one professor put it, by the time many students finish university most of what they were taught is obsolete. That's how fast science and technology is changing today.

For example, https://open-organization.com/en/2017/04/26/knowledge-creation-globalization-and-exponential-growth/

Think of it this way, my knowledge is not defined by you or anything you know. It's defined by my ability to access what millions of people/engineers/scientists much smarter than you or I learned last month and published on the internet. Now with AI I don't even need to search the internet and an AI can search millions of sites finding all the most relevant information for me.

To be honest any kind of prediction about the increase in the rate of the growth of knowledge due to AI may be over my head. Think of it this way, we probably spend more time looking for relevant information than we do reading it or trying to understand it but the growth of knowledge is still exponential. So what happens when our access to the newest information we want to know also becomes exponential?. Theoretically the rate of growth of knowledge should increase my magnitudes and I cannot even comprehend what the outcome may be.

To put it into some kind of perspective, the combined knowledge of humanity increased and learned more new things in the last minute than we learned in our entire lifetime. Why?, because there is more people with an increasing access to information learning more new things we don't know exponentially faster than we can comprehend.

Some say this is the end but how can more access to more factual information be an end?, it sounds more like a new beginning...

AC

Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.07.23, 15:35:28
Quote from: Classic on 2023.07.16, 10:07:13
In terms of radiant energy we only need to create a disruption in order to harvest, by shorting 2 fields that have a potential difference at a high (or the right) fervency where the local environment will start to balance its own entropy as it sees its an developing anomaly. There is probably an infinite methods to tap into this energy and extract the exact form that we want to employ to power up our "little things". We can use: sound, magnetic, electric, kinetic, radiation ... anything we can think off as 2 fields of the same kind with a potential difference. Just pay attention the way you connect the fields and avoid all loses you can until disruption is created.

Found this to be of relevance to the discussion.
Very cogent stuff

https://youtu.be/2tGRhTXKh8A (https://youtu.be/2tGRhTXKh8A)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.07.24, 18:43:35
Excelsior
QuoteFound this to be of relevance to the discussion.
Very cogent stuff
https://youtu.be/2tGRhTXKh8A

It's interesting to note the contradictions most take for granted including the author of the video...

In the video around 12:00 minutes he claims zero point energy could be extracted using the Casimir effect to confine specific EM wavelengths. He goes on to say this could modify the ground state but is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics. In fact most people confuse the laws of thermodynamics and electrodynamics applying laws where they don't apply.

For the record, heat as jiggling atoms, heat engines and heat pumps have almost nothing to do with electrodynamics. For example, all EM waves in the vacuum of space do not generate any heat because the are almost no atoms to interact with and the reason space is -270 Celsius. A superconductor having no resistance also generates no heat. So we should understand where thermodynamics applies and where it does not. I found most people are obsessed with heat and thermodynamics even though very few even understand it. Primitive concepts and forms of energy like heat are not the way forward.

Moving on, the picture below from the video gives us some indication of what's really going on, does it look familiar?. When I saw it the first thing that popped into my head is a solar cell. Incoming radiation, two different materials, EM excitation, a gap/band gap and biased to act like a diode.

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Inorganic_Chemistry/Book%3A_Introduction_to_Inorganic_Chemistry_(Wikibook)/10%3A_Electronic_Properties_of_Materials_-_Superconductors_and_Semiconductors/10.07%3A_Diodes_LEDs_and_Solar_Cells
QuoteDiodes are semiconductor devices that allow current to flow in only one direction. Diodes act as rectifiers in electronic circuits, and also as efficient light emitters (in LEDs) and solar cells (in photovoltaics). The basic structure of a diode is a junction between a p-type and an n-type semiconductor, called a p-n junction. Typically, diodes are made from a single semiconductor crystal into which p- and n- dopants are introduced.

Now were starting to connect the right dots conceptually...

Think of it this way, photons can excite an atoms surrounding electric field but so can EM waves in the correct context. Don't think about a direct conversion of energy, think about concentrating energy under very specific conditions then converting it to another form with no reversal for maximum efficiency. Nikola Tesla touched on this subject when he spoke of 1/4 wavelengths (ground state to max potential) with no reversal. Conceptually an energy trap, the energy comes in but once it is in it has no choice but to move forward along a predetermined path of our choosing.

AC

Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.26, 23:40:07
I've seen so many users on this forum saying "if you don't do it I'll do it before anyone else does" ... so far nothing happened since, despite we are are now few years away from that point ... or at least is far too slow for the C velocity of "social media" takeover.

What are we waiting for ?  ^-^

In meantime bigoilco have raised the price based on nothing but greed and we just watch them how they cash in billions doing nothing .. gov everywhere pushing for unreliable solar and wind which require huge costs for individuals in necessary storage associated with this kind of already obsolete tech. And more that that, they have prepared large package laws to tax anyone even they don't have (yet) access to an fe.unit.

I can tell 1 thing, I'm not going for another winter based on gov&co.grid as latest info shown that honest and sincere ministers and prime ministers have some undeclared (not required by law) and undisclosed investments in that big.oil.Co.

Honestly after their covidshowdown of what they are capable off I can see a fierce dispute taking place really soon as being we or them and nothing else. And for sure as things stands I can see any difference between hyper oppressed sunrise and presumed extravagantly freedom sunset. It really isn't any difference between 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock in this way and because 3 has raised fast to 9 but quite the opposite.

I'm simply outraged and being a rebel as I as was all time ... I really don't care about consequences that might come as I never did.

Let's enjoy together a beautiful sunset and make it great for human beings, but be ready to defend your rights at some cost associated. Release the hounds while you can or you may never be able to do it ... if it's not too late already. We need to abruptly discharge our caps to release that tremendous power surrounding us.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: AlienGrey on 2023.07.27, 10:48:37
Ruslan published a couple of vids Don Smith made before he died where Don gave a lot away
I see a lot of his posts have now been taken down.

Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.07.27, 12:50:16
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.07.27, 10:48:37
Ruslan published a couple of vids Don Smith made before he died where Don gave a lot away
I see a lot of his posts have now been taken down.

Yeah, quite unexpected to see this happening, isn't it?

Im being fed up to see all latest inventors rushing to make it to public when they are on last length before vanishing, being smart enough to get their inventions but not really smart to get it out while they can change something for good, pursuing money in this way is just childish. And it will be the fate of everyone trying to do the same ... just learn what they did to Tesla.

Most of the time it doesn't cost much to build even from scrap and teaching others to make it is far more valuable than anything in the world as same dark forces can make you lose everything in a blink

How it might look if you launch 100-1000 devices at a time than every single one would bring another 1-10 more ?

Do we ever ask ourselves why energy distribution co were so keen to replace neon tubes lights for lower consumption bulbs ? It was a great danger to have available so many hv-hf cheap transformers ? But what about the fluorescent tubes themselves which are cheap plasma devices and they work absolutely fine being burnt when you power them wirelessly ?
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.08.06, 14:03:58
https://youtu.be/LRFI0V-2DlA Have a look at what this man doing ... also more interesting are very useful info on his yet channel.


I mean research is good but without practical application people don't trust researchers, academia or scientists anymore.


Things like what is it good a superconductor at room temperature were another 1000 years of research needs to be done to have something practical and useful in your home/business ... is just bs
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.08.07, 21:14:06
Classic
QuoteI mean research is good but without practical application people don't trust researchers, academia or scientists anymore.

This is wrong on several levels...

First, researchers, academia and scientists study nature and natural phenomena to determine the facts of a matter. They seldom if ever look for practical applications which is generally the job of inventors and engineers. Scientists study things to find facts and Engineers try to apply said facts.

Second, the greater majority of intelligent people recognize science and engineering as the best and the brightest. It's only recently that corporate/political/religious entities have weaponized fake news and misinformation to change peoples views. For example, the politician paid by fossil fuel interests falsely claims the science of renewable energy is questionable. The science is hardly questionable but the politician being bribed to cast doubt and spread misinformation is.

So we need to get our facts straight concerning who is doing what and why.

Bill Burr the comedian had a funny video on this subject. He basically implied, only stupid people believe men like steve jobs or elon musk are geniuses. There business men who pay smart people to do all the hard work then try and take all the credit for of it. You think steve jobs picked up a soldering iron and built an Iphone?. You don't honestly think they invented any of there products do you?. It was the scientists and engineers they hired who made it happen not steve jobs or elon musk. Bill Burr nailed it...

AC
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.08.07, 21:53:27
Classic
QuoteDo we ever ask ourselves why energy distribution co were so keen to replace neon tubes lights for lower consumption bulbs ? It was a great danger to have available so many hv-hf cheap transformers ? But what about the fluorescent tubes themselves which are cheap plasma devices and they work absolutely fine being burnt when you power them wirelessly ?

One word, mercury.

The fluorescent tubes contain mercury which is toxic and tons of it were ending up in landfills and leaching into our waterways.

https://www.aceee.org/press-release/2022/03/study-mercury-laced-fluorescent-bulbs-should-be-phased-out-leds-now-more
QuoteAn estimated 75% of fluorescent bulbs used in the United States are not recycled or disposed of properly; mercury leached from landfills eventually reaches rivers, lakes, and oceans, where it bioaccumulates in fish and shellfish. Consumption of contaminated seafood is the leading cause of human exposure to mercury.

AC
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.08.07, 22:40:05
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.08.07, 21:14:06
Classic
This is wrong on several levels...

First, researchers, academia and scientists study nature and natural phenomena to determine the facts of a matter. They seldom if ever look for practical applications which is generally the job of inventors and engineers. Scientists study things to find facts and Engineers try to apply said facts.

Second, the greater majority of intelligent people recognize science and engineering as the best and the brightest. It's only recently that corporate/political/religious entities have weaponized fake news and misinformation to change peoples views. For example, the politician paid by fossil fuel interests falsely claims the science of renewable energy is questionable. The science is hardly questionable but the politician being bribed to cast doubt and spread misinformation is.

So we need to get our facts straight concerning who is doing what and why.

Bill Burr the comedian had a funny video on this subject. He basically said, only stupid people believe men like steve jobs or elon musk are geniuses. There business men who pay smart people to do all the hard work then try and take all the credit for of it. You think steve jobs picked up a soldering iron and built an Ipad?. Don't be stupid, you don't honestly think they invented any of there products do you?. It was the scientists and engineers they hired who made it happen not steve jobs or elon musk. Bill Burr nailed it...

AC

That's why we need open source ... to root out the bad things.

I'm not sure if it's laughable or to cry when I look where we are right now in 2023

And we will see more often a "guy with soldering iron"  ... pop up everywhere taking aim at engineers, scientists researchers and academia ... and I can't say loud that is wrong. At least not when bored to death people using prostitution media to take a "trip to the Moon" or take peek deep into the ocean, while John Doe is told we are far away from anything and all scientific world needs thousands more years to comprehend discoveries +100 years old ... while a "guy with a hammer" can make wonders and magic  that the same scientific world utterly deny it.

How can we accept that it became easier to jail everyone for the benefit of few ?

I can't decide to say is wrong or right as you do, but for sure I can say something is very wrong somewhere and soon we will witness some interesting facts as nature will bring the equilibrium in its right and price will be paid by all, good or wrong.

I really can go on for thousands pages ... but I guess you got the point.
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.08.07, 21:53:27
Classic
One word, mercury.

The fluorescent tubes contain mercury which is toxic and tons of it were ending up in landfills and leaching into our waterways.

https://www.aceee.org/press-release/2022/03/study-mercury-laced-fluorescent-bulbs-should-be-phased-out-leds-now-more
AC
Well, this happened because nobody told John Doe that a fluorescent tube can be lit even when apparently is burnt ..but telling him this would lead to unveil their lies about how electricity work isn't it ? And then, maybe, John Doe then might have the curiosity to explore a little bit deeper about what else is told wrong by the "smart guy".

Also I'm not completely sure about mercury effect  ;D while am aware that any abuse of use is poisonous. I've played a lot with mercury when I was young and I might have a different idea about the danger of mercury ... but if that many idiots are able to drink bleach to get rid of covid I really wonder why we don't have a full research on this too and completely ban all bleach and bleach contained products, including washed with bleach chicken in the superstore.
Shall I say something about sugar as well ? Or bread ?

You look like someone able to think with its own mind, please check for errors.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.08.08, 11:46:34
Brings up a thought in my mind - why are they "phasing out" 3 wire NST's?
Connection to ground makes them more dangerous?? apparently

I personally wonder why 2 wire NST's have become commonplace (online, anyhow) assuming they now implement a neutral ground bond (have not yet bought one to open one up and see)
This would make them less prone to modifications / unintended use afaict.. Don Smith revisions, etc, even make it impossible to use in such a device.

What's wrong with 3 wire? (open question)

Seems only unskilled installers are likely to injure themselves on one, and it happens every day anyway, proper training is the solution, not nerfing the whole world  ;D
Peddle out a inferior product with enough excuses and people will buy it.. You can fool some of them some of the time and that's enough, apparently.
I've no doubt that unbelievable things would be within each of our respective grasps, were the information in full form available to do so.
And we know that some of the most fundamental understandings are flawed, such as Maxwells equations (or the lack thereof)
Worth keeping an open mind on these topics .. We only know what we know.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.08.08, 12:28:04
Anyone can explain in very simple terms why all gov almost everywhere promotes aggressively pv solar panels coupled with huge and expensive power banks and why we should or shouldn't trust them?
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.08.08, 15:04:53
Quote from: Classic on 2023.08.08, 12:28:04
Anyone can explain in very simple terms why all gov almost everywhere promotes aggressively pv solar panels coupled with huge and expensive power banks and why we should or shouldn't trust them?

Do you mean, can someone explain it?.

It's simple, solar with battery storage allows the energy to be used when the sun isn't shining. It can also be used for backup power if the grid power goes down.

Here's a clue, your already paying for all the expensive power generation equipment the power utility uses. Your paying for the power plants, generators, the power lines and towers, the transformers and labor costs. It's built into the price you pay for grid power plus a large profit. So it's cheaper, cleaner and more reliable to generate your own power.

AC
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.08.08, 15:42:04
The way I interpret what was said is:
S-PV has been pushed so hard as it represents another profitable commodity, in the sense that grid tie owners become a source of revenue for the installer / associated power company.
Off grid setups are harder to do as they usually require DIY installation (not a problem for some of us) but is for others.
However - IMO - off grid setup is undoubtedly the cheaper, more effective and less complex option - provided you know what to do with the power and can size then deploy a system to requirements.
In simpler terms, grid tie usually creates an economy (alongside component retail) involving external bodies whose interest is to benefit themselves (Power companies worldwide)
It's undoubtedly a fantastic technology but also like so many other things, intentionally retarded (in the actual meaning of the term) for ulterior motives than easing our Human existence.
PV panels (monos, anyway) can be had for incredible prices second hand (ime) with 90+% of their useful lifespan remaining.
The SCC and PB batteries + Inverter can also be had (or built) very cheaply.
(Amo's are hard to come by! and expensive! but the superior option anywhere except the hottest countries, afaik)
Second hand lead acids (and LFE's, NIMH etc) can be pulsed to give a longer life than forced DC charging (this is well known by some)
We should be aiming for a Home Generator design - the ultimate solution for bringing less fortunate continents "up to speed" and then some.
Not benefit some faceless soulless entity (they know)
Not to mention the implications for G7 nations.
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.08.08, 19:49:39
Excelsior
QuoteThe way I interpret what was said is:
S-PV has been pushed so hard as it represents another profitable commodity, in the sense that grid tie owners become a source of revenue for the installer / associated power company.
Off grid setups are harder to do as they usually require DIY installation (not a problem for some of us) but is for others.
However - IMO - off grid setup is undoubtedly the cheaper, more effective and less complex option - provided you know what to do with the power and can size then deploy a system to requirements.
In simpler terms, grid tie usually creates an economy (alongside component retail) involving external bodies whose interest is to benefit themselves (Power companies worldwide)
It's undoubtedly a fantastic technology but also like so many other things, intentionally retarded (in the actual meaning of the term) for ulterior motives than easing our Human existence.

Agreed however there's one little snag.

Most utilities in the modern world have upgraded to smart meters so they can charge variable rates. For example, a friend pays $0.15/kWh off peak and during peak hours (6am to 11pm) up to $0.60/kWh. However if they had a hybrid grid tie inverter and a battery bank they could charge the battery during off peak at the lower rate and use it during peak rates. Ergo, they would always pay the lower rate saving $0.45/kWh.

Now some people in the U.S. like Texas where there getting shafted by private utilities claim to be making $100/day simply by importing power to charge there battery bank or EV battery off peak then selling it at peak. Think about that, $3000/month makes the payment on there EV plus a profit simply by using it's battery as storage.

As well, since a person is consistently importing/exporting power sneaking some extra power into the grid from a free energy device would hardly be noticed. However joe blow dropping his average grid power consumption by 50% would tend to raise some red flags.

I find most peoples logic strange, I can't wait for my power rates to go through the roof. You see I'm paying a low bulk rate of around $0.09/kWh so the return on investment(ROI) of solar and wind power is very low. However if the price quadrupled to $0.36 then the ROI drops by 75%, say from 20 years to 5 years. Now clean energy makes perfect sense and the ROI at 20% would easily exceed most investments in the stock market. Why wouldn't everyone do it?, in fact most intelligent people would, problem solved.

AC
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.08.08, 21:40:35
I'm puzzled, honestly.

Is this over unity research ? Moving all costs associated with inefficient power generation at John Doe expenses ? This is the solution ?

What about built in the wall sterling engine ( I mean solid state) or peltier devices  ... or just use of atmospheric electricity 100v/m above the ground ... continuously, non weather or day light dependant and ditch power banks ?

Well ... the "guy with the soldering iron" (infantile second hand scientist, as described by an smart user in another post) absolutely right, maybe is time for the guy with the hammer soon to shine.

I found is just amazing how supposed to be scientists are unable to replicate almost anything while being busy to play with their useless expensive toys. What is so difficult to design and build a simple device starting from desired load, knowing the working principle and do the necessary math when we know parameters of proposed input ? ... ohh, I know why ... someone discovered pv solar panel and the smart John Doe (middle class) is going to abuse the system or become energy independent as long as his batteries last  :-X
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Excelsior on 2023.08.09, 01:39:58
https://youtu.be/TttHkDRuyZw?t=7538 (https://youtu.be/TttHkDRuyZw?t=7538)
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Allcanadian on 2023.08.09, 02:02:07
Classic
QuoteI found is just amazing how supposed to be scientists are unable to replicate almost anything while being busy to play with their useless expensive toys. What is so difficult to design and build a simple device starting from desired load, knowing the working principle and do the necessary math when we know parameters of proposed input ? ... ohh, I know why ... someone discovered pv solar panel and the smart John Doe (middle class) is going to abuse the system or become energy independent as long as his batteries last

Sure FE is easy peasy and anyone can do it, however, in reality the odds of understanding how all this works are about the same as winning the powerball lottery. Coincidentally, the odds of winning the powerball lottery are about the same as being struck by lightning while simultaneously drowning in a body of water.

AC
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.08.09, 09:33:32
Have you had a look at yt that I posted earlier ? ???
Title: Re: Home generator
Post by: Classic on 2023.08.09, 12:39:23
 https://youtu.be/srwU9d5bsHs (https://youtu.be/srwU9d5bsHs) just another proof