I'd like to replicate the experiment from the video linked below, where energy is transferred between an inductive coil powered by high voltage pulses from a flyback transformer and a green transformer powered by a push-pull circuit. The video mentions that the green transformer operates at a frequency of 50Hz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nxKqfkkndw
Therefore, I have a question:
How can I build a push-pull (Royer oscillator) operating at a frequency of 50Hz?
Also, how can I synchronize the high voltage pulses from the coil with the 50Hz signal from the green transformer so that they always align at the peak of the 50Hz amplitude?
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.23, 14:14:58
I'd like to replicate the experiment from the video linked below, where energy is transferred between an inductive coil powered by high voltage pulses from a flyback transformer and a green transformer powered by a push-pull circuit.
First you must decide whether you want this energy transfer to happen by conduction or by radiation.
In case of the latter, you also must decide whether you want this energy to be transferred by the E-field or the H-field or both.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.23, 14:14:58
How can I build a push-pull (Royer oscillator) operating at a frequency of 50Hz?
Firstly, this oscillator requires a center-tapped primary winding and feedback winding. Do you have such windings ?
Also, this oscillator generates an approximate square waveform (there are other version of this oscillator that generate a sine waveform at its output, usually using an additional inductor in the supply line).
The frequency of this oscillator is determined by the maximum magnetic flux density at which its core saturates (↑↓), the power supply voltage (↑↑), and the inductance of the primary winding, secondary current (↑↑).
The 2nd arrow denotes what happens with frequency as that parameter increases.This oscillator circuit relies solely on magnetic core saturation to cause switching between its two states, which means that the power loss in the core due to hysteresis loss is high (this might be a desirable property of this oscillator if you want to saturate the core on every cycle). If you do not want to to saturate the core on every cycle, consider using an LC sine resonant Royer oscillator circuit, a.k.a. the Baxandall oscillator, which requires the same type of windings but its frequency is also influenced by capacitors in it. If you do not have a center-tapped primary winding, then the Mazzilli oscillator might be applicable.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.23, 14:14:58
Also, how can I synchronize the high voltage pulses from the coil with the 50Hz signal from the green transformer so that they always align at the peak of the 50Hz amplitude?
If the 50Hz signal from the green transformer is the phase-determining component then you can use the signal from its Royer feedback winding. When the voltage signal across this winding gets low, then this is an indicator that the transformer's primary current is nearing saturation (and its peak) and then you can use a comparator, such as the ubiquitous 339, to signal the opening of the primary winding of the LOPT in order to generate the HV pulse at its secondary.
I would like to replicate this experiment as faithfully as possible. Unfortunately, my knowledge of electronics is too limited to do it on my own. I'm counting on the help of forum users.
I jumped to the conclusion too quickly that a Royer oscillator was used in the video. Perhaps it's a voltage boost converter or a different type of oscillator? I'd like to use the circuit that was most similar to the one used in the video to power the green transformer.
I have a very similar transformer TH41-220-50 with leads arranged in the same way as in the video. In the video, the circuit of the coil powered by high-voltage pulses from the transformer is not galvanically connected to the circuit of the green transformer with the light bulb. Both of these circuits are only powered together from a single 12V battery.
The voltage measured at the output of the green transformer is before the diode, after which there is a light bulb, and it's 100V. The light bulb is not connected to the secondary winding, only to the primary winding. I'll add that the secondary winding of the green transformer is not used. That is, one pin of the primary winding is connected to one pin of the secondary winding - why?
The circuit of the green transformer contains two transistors, a microchip, a choke or an electrolytic capacitor, two large electrolytic capacitors, and probably a potentiometer.
What type of oscillator could have been used to power the green transformer in this experiment?
I am attaching the datasheet of the transformer I want to use for this experiment. It is a TH41-220-50 transformer. The datasheet is included as an attachment. Below are pictures of the elements used in the circuit of the green transformer.
Regarding the questions:
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.23, 15:19:33
"First you must decide whether you want this energy transfer to happen by conduction or by radiation.
In case of the latter, you also must decide whether you want this energy to be transferred by the E-field or the H-field or both."
To begin with, as in the video, through radiation. Next, we can try through conduction. Transferred by the E-field
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.23, 15:19:33
"Firstly, this oscillator requires a center-tapped primary winding and feedback winding. Do you have such windings ?"
What do you mean feedback windings?
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.23, 15:19:33
"If the 50Hz signal from the green transformer is the phase-determining component then you can use the signal from its Royer feedback winding. When the voltage signal across this winding gets low, then this is an indicator that the transformer's primary current is nearing saturation (and its peak) and then you can use a comparator, such as the ubiquitous 339, to signal the opening of the primary winding of the LOPT in order to generate the HV pulse at its secondary."
What is LOPT? Can you provide an example schematic where the 339 comparator synchronizes two signals?
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
I would like to replicate this experiment as faithfully as possible. Unfortunately, my knowledge of electronics is too limited to do it on my own. I'm counting on the help of forum users.
Well then, the first thing you should do is draw a proper schematic diagram.
I have started it for you by drawing the TH41-220-50 transformer you specified. You can edit it in MS-Paint or whatever else you like.
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49498)
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
I jumped to the conclusion too quickly that a Royer oscillator was used in the video. Perhaps it's a voltage boost converter or a different type of oscillator? I'd like to use the circuit that was most similar to the one used in the video to power the green transformer.
So go back to the video and draw the connections to the components that you see. We can help you figure out what type of transistors they are and their pinouts.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
I have a very similar transformer TH41-220-50 with leads arranged in the same way as in the video.
How is it different from the original ? Does it have the same core ?
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
In the video, the circuit of the coil powered by high-voltage pulses from the transformer is not galvanically connected to the circuit of the green transformer with the light bulb. Both of these circuits are only powered together from a single 12V battery.
Well, I would call that shared power supply wires - a galvanic connection. You cannot discount the signals traveling up&down supply lines.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
The voltage measured at the output of the green transformer is before the diode, after which there is a light bulb, and it's 100V. The light bulb is not connected to the secondary winding, only to the primary winding. I'll add that the secondary winding of the green transformer is not used. That is, one pin of the primary winding is connected to one pin of the secondary winding - why?
Draw it. A diagram is worth a thousand words.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
The circuit of the green transformer contains two transistors, a microchip, a choke or an electrolytic capacitor, two large electrolytic capacitors, and probably a potentiometer.
The microchip with the electrolytic capacitors on one board could be the 555 (https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm555.pdf) timer or the MC34063 (https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/mc34063a.pdf?ts=1698140844988&) switcher, which drives the transistors and forms a signal generator. Draw the transistors together. The TO-220 regulator, choke and other capacitors separately.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
What type of oscillator could have been used to power the green transformer in this experiment?
I will tell you once you draw the schematic.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
To begin with, as in the video, through radiation. Next, we can try through conduction. Transferred by the E-field
So you are discounting the signals transferred by conduction through the supply lines ?
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
What do you mean feedback windings?
I did not write "windings", I wrote "winding".
The L2 winding marked in red is the feedback winding. Every Royer oscillator must have it. If it does not have it, then it is not a Royer oscillator.
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49500)
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
What is LOPT?
This:
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49502)
In Russian it is called: "ТДКС"
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
Can you provide an example schematic where the 339 comparator synchronizes two signals?
Yes, but that would be premature as you want to replicate tit-for-tat and I do not see a 339 comparator in that video.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.24, 17:19:56
How is it different from the original ? Does it have the same core ?
I don't know why it was accepted that this transformer has a ferrite core, in any case, as I was looking through various datasheets from catalogs of "green transformers" I didn't come across any with a ferrite core. Of course, this does not mean 100% sure that the transformer used in the video did not have a ferrite core.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.24, 17:19:56
Yes, but that would be premature as you want to replicate tit-for-tat and I do not see a 339 comparator in that video.
Indeed, the video does not show the 339 comparator, but I would appreciate it if you sent some schematic of how to use it to synchronize two signals.
I will address the rest later , due to limited time.
Out of pure curiosity I watched the video in the opening page of this topic. The first part was the one I was trying to find a link to for Verpies. As I got further through I discovered the device that both Hoppy and I had tried to replicate some 9-10 years ago.
Neither of us managed to get the results shown. However, note the use of a split tube of Aluminium between the inner and outer windings.
In the first video there appears to be a " chip " on the circuit board that drives the Green transformer.
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: Grumage on 2023.10.25, 16:02:43
Out of pure curiosity I watched the video in the opening page of this topic. The first part was the one I was trying to find a link to for Verpies. As I got further through I discovered the device that both Hoppy and I had tried to replicate some 9-10 years ago.
Neither of us managed to get the results shown. However, note the use of a split tube of Aluminium between the inner and outer windings.
In the first video there appears to be a " chip " on the circuit board that drives the Green transformer.
Cheers Grum.
The split aluminium tube has always piqued interest for me. You see it make an appearance in many devices, but the exact use of it is never explained. Is it one side of a capacitor? Is it a single turn inductor?
I've thought about it a lot. Placing it inbetween two windings would block the electric (E) field between L1 and L2 if it was grounded. I don't think it would have any effect on the magnetic (H) field, aside from some small eddy currents, because it isn't shorted due to the slit and so this would pass straight through.
Maybe it is the E field that is responsible for the way transformers work? I've always wondered how transformers could work if the magnetic field is for the most part confined within the core material. I recall Eric Dollard saying that no one knows exactly how transformers work.
Would blocking the E field cause L1 to magnetically induce L2 without any feedback / load to L1? Magnets have no E field and we use them to induce currents in coils to generate electricity.
Just some thoughts from the top of my head. I am by no means an expert so feel free to chime in if I'm wrong in my understanding.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.25, 14:57:23
I don't know why it was accepted that this transformer has a ferrite core, in any case, as I was looking through various datasheets from catalogs of "green transformers" I didn't come across any with a ferrite core.
I do not know either. It seems like a big assumption to me.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.25, 14:57:23
Of course, this does not mean 100% sure that the transformer used in the video did not have a ferrite core.
But after seeing these datasheets you've provided, my bet is that these transformers have a steel tape wound cores.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.25, 14:57:23
Indeed, the video does not show the 339 comparator, but I would appreciate it if you sent some schematic of how to use it to synchronize two signals.
The 339 is just a voltage comparator. It doesn't perform any useful function on its own. It needs to be a part of a larger schematic.. Than one that you will draw from analyzing the video.
Quote from: lfarrand on 1970.01.01, 00:28:18
Maybe it is the E field that is responsible for the way transformers work?
Nah. They work even if the E-field is completely shielded.
Quote from: lfarrand on 1970.01.01, 00:28:18
Would blocking the E field cause L1 to magnetically induce L2 without any feedback / load to L1?
No
Quote from: lfarrand on 1970.01.01, 00:28:18
I've always wondered how transformers could work if the magnetic field is for the most part confined within the core material.
Officially, via the A-field.
Quote from: lfarrand on 1970.01.01, 00:28:18
I recall Eric Dollard saying that no one knows exactly how transformers work.
I would not say "all". In my opinion they can be exactly understood by abandoning the space and time as some type of an aquarium in which we all float and recognizing that they are mere aspects of the non-vectorial 3D motion of gravitating matter and the reference systems constructed by it.
Quote from: lfarrand on 1970.01.01, 00:28:18
Magnets have no E field and we use them to induce currents in coils to generate electricity.
The non-vectorial motion of magnets just deviates 2-dimensionally from the 3D motion of non-magnetized matter. This deviation creates an illusion of motion between two reference systems, which we call attraction . There are no little vikings with harpoons sitting on one magnet and reeling in the other magnet.
Conversely, the non-vectorial motion of electric charges deviates 1-dimensionally from the 3D motion of uncharged matter. Moving charged matter in another dimension vectorially, cancels part of its ordinary 3D motion and leaves a 2D residue (deviation), which we perceive as magnetism.
All of that is not a good subject for discussion on this forum - it can quickly degenerate to a flame war about aether and other inventions of the human mind.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.24, 17:19:56
So go back to the video and draw the connections to the components that you see. We can help you figure out what type of transistors they are and their pinouts.
That's all what I can see in the video. I can't tell how the components on the pcb are connected.
Attached is the circuit feeding the green transformer.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.26, 15:26:41
Attached is the circuit feeding the green transformer.
What about the choke ? It is an important component to know about.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.24, 14:17:59
The circuit of the green transformer contains two transistors, a microchip, a choke...
Are you sure that terminals 14 and 16 are not connected to anything ?
Also, let's designate the center tap of the primary winding as 1B because in the datasheet it is written this way in Russian ...and your designation looks like 16.
This thing is going back some years, some of the guys were on a com's thread T1000 and a few others too
from what i can remember the green transformer is a Russian 'C' core 50 hertz device and it was driven by
an ZVS circuit and not a Royer ! apparently it only works with NRZ configuration it was difficult to understand
the translation on frequency of the EHT section but it must be in the Khz range and is in no way are the two
device's connected together for sync both are free running. There was a lot of discussion at the time and I
didn't attempt to replicate it I was to busy with work.
Sil
Note correction
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.27, 09:07:11
the green transformer is a Russian 'C' core 50 hertz device and it was driven by an NRZ circuit and not a Royer !
Please provide a link to the NRZ oscillator circuit.
I am familiar with the ZVS circuit and Mazilli but not with the NRZ.
In telecommunications parlance, the acronym expands to Non Return to Zero, which I am very familiar with, but not so in reference to oscillators.
Yeah thats the one ZVS the 2 Mosfets with the stearing diodes.
must have been thinking of the old tape / disk controlers.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.26, 17:30:21
What about the choke ? It is an important component to know about.
Are you sure that terminals 14 and 16 are not connected to anything ?
Also, let's designate the center tap of the primary winding as 1B because in the datasheet it is written this way in Russian ...and your designation looks like 16.
At first I thought it was a choke , but it is, however, an electrolytic capacitor.
Yes, I'm sure I spent a long time analyzing this video.
Yes, you're right it's not 6 it's the Russian letter B
Do we have this guy on this forum ?
He speaks English and had an "event" which destroyed his equipment while stimulating a transformer with RF a year ago. See:
https://youtu.be/VXUkH9htFbs
https://youtu.be/lyrFFk7P0v4
I find his offending frequency intriguing because it is close to the one described in this paper (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3345.0;attach=22806).
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49528)
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3107.0;attach=19130)
This is relevant to the subject of affecting transformers by RF fields, which is discussed in this thread.
If not - could someone invite this guy here ?
To Verpies
Do you have any idea what circuit fed the green transformer?
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.23, 14:14:58
I'd like to replicate the experiment from the video linked below, where energy is transferred between an inductive coil powered by high voltage pulses from a flyback transformer and a green transformer powered by a push-pull circuit. The video mentions that the green transformer operates at a frequency of 50Hz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nxKqfkkndw
Therefore, I have a question:
How can I build a push-pull (Royer oscillator) operating at a frequency of 50Hz?
Also, how can I synchronize the high voltage pulses from the coil with the 50Hz signal from the green transformer so that they always align at the peak of the 50Hz amplitude?
Hi there.
Here's a really cheap option to convert 12 V to 220 VAC for your experiment.
https://tinyurl.com/2c8c6s66
I have got one myself and am really happy with it.
Cheers Grum.
Quote from: bfulmind23 on 2023.10.27, 14:40:33
Do you have any idea what circuit fed the green transformer?
If it was not for that 8-pin DIP chip and the pot and lack of chokes, I would say that one:
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/103173_d0e221cabffe4f9eaaeccffce6470564~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_604,h_560,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/schematics1.png)
Here (https://youtu.be/hFJeIt_JcEc?t=378) is an entertaining video about it.
...and this (https://youtu.be/omaPNEA4zEw?t=176) is the the simplest circuit but it requires feeding the power supply into the center tap of the primary.
It also does not contain any IC and nor pot for adjustment.
This one ticks almost all the boxes:
(https://www.homemade-circuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/555-inverter-circuit.jpg)
...as it has 2 transistors, an 8-pin IC with a pot adjustment, no center-tapped primary winding ...but it has a choke :(
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.27, 13:47:12
Do we have this guy on this forum ?
He speaks English and had an "event" which destroyed his equipment while stimulating a transformer with RF a year ago. See:
https://youtu.be/VXUkH9htFbs
https://youtu.be/lyrFFk7P0v4
I find the his offending frequency intriguing because it is close to the one described in this paper (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3345.0;attach=22806).
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49528)
(https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3107.0;attach=19130)
This is relevant to the subject of affecting transformers by RF fields, which is discussed in this thread.
If not - could someone invite this guy here ?
Verpies,
You are beginning to sound like the proverbial hammer that sees everything as a nail...
How do NMR related excitations produce excess energy?
As for the videos, if my variac growled like that I'd definitely want to know why. You have to pull a lot of current thru a variac to make it growl like that. I'd investigate the connections or check out the variac for a shorted winding. Those variac/autotransformers are not isolated. One side of the output goes to one side of the line. With non-polarized plugs, lifted AC grounds, and computer/equipment grounds connected via unsure cliplead connections, he's probably got the hot side of the line driving his equip grounds.
PW
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 18:13:19
You are beginning to sound like the proverbial hammer that sees everything as a nail...
I can see why you would write that ;)
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 18:13:19
How do NMR related excitations produce excess energy?
By causing precessions and this (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49532) and like I recently explained to you in the other thread.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.27, 19:24:30
I can see why you would write that ;)
By causing precessions and this (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4525.0;attach=49532) and like I recently explained to you in the other thread.
Verpies,
I have issues with the references given in the other thread with regard to producing overunity. Induced beta decay may be considered overunity (if it actually works), but none of the setups discussed thus far resemble the experiments in the patent or relate to the other two references in that post. As well, any emission of fast electrons (beta particles) due to proton or neutron decay are going to decelerate rapidly via collisions and produce x-rays, etc.
Although I only looked at it briefly, this paper that you reference here seems to be stating that the unpinning of magnetic domains can be made easier if the system is resonated prior to the unpinning.
How does causing precessions (application of B field) or placing all precessions in phase (via stimulating at NMR freq) produce OU? Seems the most we can do is apply an RF signal (NMR freq) at a right angle to the B field until spin flip saturation is achieved and then what?
PW
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.27, 15:42:38
If it was not for that 8-pin DIP chip and the pot and lack of chokes, I would say that one:
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/103173_d0e221cabffe4f9eaaeccffce6470564~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_604,h_560,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/schematics1.png)
Here (https://youtu.be/hFJeIt_JcEc?t=378) is an entertaining video about it.
...and this (https://youtu.be/omaPNEA4zEw?t=176) is the the simplest circuit but it requires feeding the power supply into the center tap of the primary.
It also does not contain any IC and nor pot for adjustment.
This one ticks almost all the boxes:
(https://www.homemade-circuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/555-inverter-circuit.jpg)
...as it has 2 transistors, an 8-pin IC with a pot adjustment, no center-tapped primary winding ...but it has a choke :(
That 555 circuit isn't that chip where the one output transistor gets hotter than the other and burns out ?
Also that other the ZVS circuit has a few problems if by any chance you have a delay in the power rise time both transistors
switch on at the same time and BANG! also its best to center tap the output coil that way it draws less current to wast,
also if you look at better versions of that circuit they use an IRF 21530 that way you end up with the pot and the cap
and that design is made for that job so both transistors are never on at the same time. or buy an induction hot plate.
Sil
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 19:50:24
I have issues with the references given in the other thread with regard to producing overunity.
But you have no issues with the idea of "energy from nothing" and without any concrete mechanism ?
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 19:50:24
Induced beta decay may be considered overunity (if it actually works), but none of the setups discussed thus far resemble the experiments in the patent or relate to the other two references in that post.
Depends how you look at these experiments. The patent proposed a brute-force method to destabilize the nuclei - I propose resonant increase of their precession, which is more energy efficient. Every transformer subjected to short pulses of bucking fields could be an example of such experiment, (e.g. see the videos listed in reply #331 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4515.msg108271#msg108271) or the video which is the subject of this thread). Bucking fields in grenade coils create orthogonal fields, too. Many of them have a split metal tube inside and ferrite (see the list here (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4515.msg108132#msg108132)). Kapanadze motor has huge disks that can act as magnetic guides and fast electron multiplication media. The 1:40:39 (https://youtu.be/kGGCG2i8u8U?t=6039) scopeshot from the Yoke device made with 1:1000 probe, shows that the application of two ~10Vpp signals to the primaries of a 15:42 step up transformer yields 15.9kV across the secondary winding. Each of these frequencies separately does nothing special (only normal transformer action). We have a video (https://youtu.be/2Y8MCLN0xdg?t=193) which demonstrates a copper wire acquiring ferromagnetic properties after being pulsed, possibly indicating transmutation to Nickel.
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 19:50:24
As well, any emission of fast electrons (beta particles) due to proton or neutron decay are going to decelerate rapidly via collisions and produce x-rays, etc.
Not so quickly, they survive millimeters before collisions, and when the nuclei are spin-aligned the probability of secondary emissions increases.
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 19:50:24
Although I only looked at it briefly, this paper that you reference here seems to be stating that the unpinning of magnetic domains can be made easier if the system is resonated prior to the unpinning.
That, too. Unpinning the domains makes the permeability skyrocket, which makes all kinds of parametric resonance schemes possible.
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 19:50:24
How does causing precessions (application of B field) or placing all precessions in phase (via stimulating at NMR freq) produce OU?
By stripping of the nuclear spin which can destabilize the nucleus and cause it to emit fast charged particles in non-random directions. Also, the Fe NMR paper (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3345.0;attach=22806) illustrates that there is a huge 33T field inside iron metal. We don't experience it because the spins are randomized, but synchronizing the phase of even some of them would cause a very powerful AC field to emerge. Finally, unpinning the domains allows us to cyclically alter the permeability of the material and accomplish parametric resonance. The spin energy has also been noticed by another member of this forum in this paper (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4515.0;attach=49533).
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.27, 19:50:24
Seems the most we can do is apply an RF signal (NMR freq) at a right angle to the B field until spin flip saturation is achieved and then what?
Then matter is temporarily altered as described above and part of its internal motion can be converted to usable energy. Creation of conditions suitable for that is not easy, which is a good thing because we would not be here today if it was.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.27, 21:36:15
But you have no issues with the idea of "energy from nothing" and without any concrete mechanism ?
I have never suggested "energy from nothing"...
However, a favorite quote, "everything is made of nothing and all nothing is almost something"...
Some of the videos you direct me to don't really seem to support/explain much. Perhaps it is just me, but I need a bit more than is typically presented to draw any conclusions. Growling variacs and random videos of signals on a scope somehow related to a TV yoke with wires wrapped around it really don't tell me much.
Surely you have heard of copper/tin clad steel wire?
PW
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.28, 00:14:08
I have never suggested "energy from nothing"...
So you realize how asinine that is. What do you suggest as the energy gain mechanism then?
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.28, 00:14:08
Some of the videos you direct me to don't really seem to support/explain much. Perhaps it is just me, but I need a bit more than is typically presented to draw any conclusions. Growling variacs
I did not give you the growling variac video as supporting my answer to your questions. It was in a separate massage in which I was exploring a coincidence of frequencies.
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.28, 00:14:08
...and random videos of signals on a scope somehow related to a TV yoke with wires wrapped around it really don't tell me much.
That video is anything but random. It is made by the authors of the Yoke device. It clearly illustrates an anomalous voltage at the output and only when both signals are present (not separately).
Perhaps you don't appreciate its significance because you do not understand what the authors are talking about in it. ...like scope probe positions and description of signals applied to the primary windings.
What other videos do you find irrelevant or unsupportive of the argument?
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.28, 00:14:08
Surely you have heard of copper/tin clad steel wire?
Of course, ...and such wire is always ferromagnetic.
That wire being ferromagnetic is not the anomaly but the change from para/diamagnetic to ferromagnetic - is. That is why I used the word "acquire".
Quote from: verpies on 2023.10.28, 01:07:19
So you realize how asinine that is..
"Energy from the ambient" does not necessarily imply "energy from nothing".
In any case, "asinine" seems a bit uncalled for...
PW
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.28, 04:30:21
"Energy from the ambient" does not necessarily imply "energy from nothing".
In any case, "asinine" seems a bit uncalled for...
PW
All:
Energy from aluminum rings as fuel, is asinine, though.
Oh, of course he is not that, his tests are, maybe that is where he gets the "energy from nothing", bit.
Perhaps, it should be nothing from something, instead. On his tests, that he won't do.
Just another distraction, nothing to do with any actual free energy, nor NMR, nor even "fuel", as far as I can see.
Yet, now he wants to discredit Tesla, oh, not Tesla, just his outdated ideas, as he thinks he is so much smarter, now. That we even have the power to blow us all to kingdom come.
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.28, 12:59:39
All:
Energy from aluminum rings as fuel, is asinine, though.
Oh, of course he is not that, his tests are, maybe that is where he gets the "energy from nothing", bit.
Perhaps, it should be nothing from something, instead. On his tests, that he won't do.
Just another distraction, nothing to do with any actual free energy, nor NMR, nor even "fuel", as far as I can see.
Yet, now he wants to discredit Tesla, oh, not Tesla, just his outdated ideas, as he thinks he is so much smarter.
NickZ
Nick,
I support everyone's efforts toward the end we seek. Even if those efforts do not pan out, there is always some useful knowledge or data that can be gleaned from those efforts.
Regarding Tesla, although I consider him quite the genius of his day, he did not invent AC, AC transformers, or induction motors. He did greatly improve on these inventions (his polyphase, etc), allowing their use to become the standard still used today. His work with radio, tuned circuits, and wireless transmission of power were also of great importance
However, with regard to alternate sources of energy (i.e., "free energy") I have never seen anything related to Tesla that would lead one to believe he had discovered or utilized a new source of energy. The radiant energy patent and a distant third party story regarding the Pierce Arrow are the closest we come to that, but I know of no instance where Tesla himself presented or demonstrated a device that provided useful amounts of energy from some new source.
Could there be something related to tapping into a new source of energy hidden in his lost papers? Possibly, but other than speculation and conspiracy theories, we really have no proof of that one way or another.
PW
Folks,
back in 2018 I did research on some russian websites and found a discussion about an electrostatic pump process which fits in here. Original link is in the attached pdf , however it does not exist anymore, also I could not find it in the web-archive.
The russian guy who showed this in the realstrannik-Forum, discovered the description of this techique in an US-Forum and reposted
it in the realstrannik-forum, adding a longer note at the end.
There are some uncertainties in single sentences but the main principle has been made clear.
The youtube-link given is still there
I hope that this is helpful
Mike
Quote from: Kator01 on 2023.10.28, 20:38:19
Folks,
back in 2018 I did research on some russian websites and found a discussion about an electrostatic pump process which fits in here. Original link is in the attached pdf , however it does not exist anymore, also I could not find it in the web-archive.
The russian guy who showed this in the realstrannik-Forum, discovered the description of this techique in an US-Forum and reposted
it in the realstrannik-forum, adding a longer note at the end.
There are some uncertainties in single sentences but the main principle has been made clear.
The youtube-link given is still there
I hope that this is helpful
Mike
Yes, I know about it. This is the experiment that SR193 conducted the day before showing the working Kapanadze device.
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.28, 14:04:58
Nick,
I support everyone's efforts toward the end we seek. Even if those efforts do not pan out, there is always some useful knowledge or data that can be gleaned from those efforts.
Regarding Tesla, although I consider him quite the genius of his day, he did not invent AC, AC transformers, or induction motors. He did greatly improve on these inventions (his polyphase, etc), allowing their use to become the standard still used today. His work with radio, tuned circuits, and wireless transmission of power were also of great importance
However, with regard to alternate sources of energy (i.e., "free energy") I have never seen anything related to Tesla that would lead one to believe he had discovered or utilized a new source of energy. The radiant energy patent and a distant third party story regarding the Pierce Arrow are the closest we come to that, but I know of no instance where Tesla himself presented or demonstrated a device that provided useful amounts of energy from some new source.
Could there be something related to tapping into a new source of energy hidden in his lost papers? Possibly, but other than speculation and conspiracy theories, we really have no proof of that one way or another.
PW
PW: Your evaluation of what we know about Tesla is not complete. I have mentioned about his ideas concerning the "Cosmic Soup", which seams like you may have missed. And how tapping the surrounding ambient energies there in, is where free energy can be obtained. Even while building the tower, he was thinking of providing free energy to every one within range. The idea was not to charge for it, as that would be impossible, nor was it his aim.
After the tower was torn down, was when he began to experiment with other projects, which involved tapping into this cosmic soup that he mentioned, and about the Aether, as well. And building of the electric motor for the Pierce Arrow car, that he modified. Of course, that car was never to be found, along with his most important notes and tests, that followed. We are not supposed to know about any of that, at all. What was in those 80 trunks? And only some of them are still being kept secret, even in the Serbia, while even his signature was not allowed to be viewed. Why is that??? What is it that they don't want us to know, especially about tapping these surrounding ambient energies???
So, yes there is much more to all this than we are aware of, nor meets the eye, still. And I don't expect any new disclosures any time soon.
It is not what we know about what Tesla did, it is what we don't know, that is most important.
NickZ
PS. Here is a video about Teslas "Energy from the Ambient". Although not all his ideas are allowed for public viewing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx8Jobwq95k&pp=ygUddGVzbGEgZW5lcmd5IGZyb20gdGhlIGFtYmllbnQ%3D
And another informative video: https://youtu.be/2M9AOzcHVz4
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.29, 15:34:45
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It is not what we know about what Tesla did, it is what we don't know, that is most important.
...
Nick,
I'll stand by what I said. I have never seen any patent, document, lecture or demonstration from Tesla himself that would lead me to believe that he was ever able to produce any energy from some unknown or novel source (i.e., tap into the ambient or aether).
Wardenclyffe was to be a transmitter powered by a traditional powerhouse.
The quote above taken from your post further reinforces my assertions that all we have are distant third party accounts (Pierce Arrow) and conspiracy theories regarding his ability to produce some form of alternate energy.
PW
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.29, 17:02:39
Nick,
I'll stand by what I said. I have never seen any patent, document, lecture or demonstration from Tesla himself that would lead me to believe that he was ever able to produce any energy from some unknown or novel source (i.e., tap into the ambient or aether).
Wardenclyffe was to be a transmitter powered by a traditional powerhouse.
The quote above taken from your post further reinforces my assertions that all we have are distant third party accounts (Pierce Arrow) and conspiracy theories regarding his ability to produce some form of alternate energy.
PW
So why was all his paper work and documents relating to the subject been confiscated and wasn't wardenclyffe built on an under ground fault a bit like the pyramids.
By the way have you done any experiments on BEMF to see if there is any gain in the power transfer.
I did ask Verpies the same question and got no answer.
Also correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Itsu's experiments all based on sine waves ?
Sil
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.29, 18:07:48
So why was all his paper work and documents relating to the subject been confiscated and wasn't wardenclyffe built on an under ground fault a bit like the pyramids.
All we have regarding the documents is the US government's position on the matter. Tesla had made claims over the years regarding defense related devices (i.e., his missile defense system and the ray gun). The government claims they confiscated/reviewed these documents and finding nothing of interest to DOD, eventually returned them to his homeland. Any rumors or guesses beyond that is mere speculation.
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By the way have you done any experiments on BEMF to see if there is any gain in the power transfer.
I did ask Verpies the same question and got no answer.
Not recently, but no when I did...
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Also correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Itsu's experiments all based on sine waves ?
I do not know which experiment's you speak of. I've seen him use all manner of waveforms. Ask Itsu...
However, according to Fourier, regardless of what a waveform looks like, we are always using sine waves...
PW
PW:
Sounds like you believe what the government says. And trust them to tell us the truth?
And it looks like what guys like Tesla and Kapanadze said and showed is of little importance?
80 trunks worth Tesla's notes and tests confiscated were of no interest? Really?
What I think is that there is a lot more important devices owned by the government now, that make our table top generators and replications look like toys. Just saying...
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.29, 18:56:20
PW:
Sounds like you believe what the government says. And trust them to tell us the truth?
And it looks like what guys like Tesla and Kapanadze said and showed is of little importance?
What I think is that there is a lot more important devices owned by the government that make our table top generators and replications look like toys. Just saying...
NickZ
Nick,
I never said anything about my "beliefs" or who I may or may not "trust". That is merely speculation on your part...
Again, what I said was "I have never seen any patent, document, lecture or demonstration from Tesla himself that would lead me to believe that he was ever able to produce any energy from some unknown or novel source (i.e., tap into the ambient or aether)."
As for the government's current capabilities, that's a completely different rabbit hole...
PW
Oh, again just all speculation, is it. Do you trust the government's view. Or not? I certainly don't. Especially about free energy.
Our beliefs, count. Over gov manipulations and lies. Our free energy tests and ideas are not found in conventional text books. That is the last thing that you'll find there. Tesla is not taught in school, on purpose.
Your stance on energy from the ambient also counts, here, and with me. Even if it has not been proven to all of us, as yet.
NickZ
Quote from: picowatt on 2023.10.29, 19:08:03
Nick,
I never said anything about my "beliefs" or who I may or may not "trust". That is merely speculation on your part...
Again, what I said was "I have never seen any patent, document, lecture or demonstration from Tesla himself that would lead me to believe that he was ever able to produce any energy from some unknown or novel source (i.e., tap into the ambient or aether)."
As for the government's current capabilities, that's a completely different rabbit hole...
PW
I really don't know what have lead you to such conclusion or if you have a real issue with your sight to make such a statement.
For your information there is some useful things to find out here: https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/radiant-energy/#:~:text=Comming%20soon-,Tesla%27s%20radiant%20energy,of%20electricity%20of%20negative%20charge%22.
We can observe that at the time of discoveries the energy problem wasn't stressful enough or have been thought that can be sorted by usage of fossil fuel that were seen extremely abundant and could preserve the status quo of those at comand of leverage.
Nowdays when we experience all the "benefits" of such abusive and harmful exacerbated usage of fossil fuel, and modern lifestyle that have pushed humanity for a huge demand of energy, were politicians together with bussineses (bank systems are considered just a business as well) are using the energy as a leverage and method of control, have lead some other inventors and scientists that are not alined with those in control room to find ways for a better solution for the whole humanity.
Now, on topic: for wireless power transfer you can search anywhere in the world on any patent office you want and you may find that at least 80% of the patents for such phenomena are based on Tesla's patents.
And if you still think he was such a charlatan means that you call all others charlatans as well
Also, you are just ignoring de facto that any radio or tv station is just proving this wireless power trasmission based on Tesla's patent as well, where the thief Marconi have tried to claim himself as the inventor.
So, if anyone tells you that wireless power transmission wasn't and isn't real you know what to think and how to consider.
Maybe the best use of this wireless power transmission would be to use radio/tv signal and convert it back in electrical power that would be a fair exchange where they use to send lies and you can use the truth from al the energy they spend.
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.29, 19:33:09
Oh, again just all speculation, is it. Do you trust the government's view. Or not? I certainly don't. Especially about free energy.
Our beliefs, count. Over gov manipulations and lies. Our free energy tests and ideas are not found in conventional text books. That is the last thing that you'll find there. Tesla is not taught in school, on purpose.
Your stance on energy from the ambient also counts, here, and with me. Even if it has not been proven to all of us, as yet.
NickZ
Nick,
Lighten up. You can believe what you want.
My statement is just the facts as I have found them to be from my years of looking into the matter. It is not a statement one way or another regarding the possibility of energy from the ambient.
In my opinion, the most credible example of energy from the ambient is the work of T.H. Moray, which I have also studied quite a bit.
PW
Quote from: Classic on 2023.10.29, 19:52:35
I really don't know what have lead you to such conclusion or if you have a real issue with your sight to make such a statement.
For your information there is some useful things to find out here: https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/radiant-energy/#:~:text=Comming%20soon-,Tesla%27s%20radiant%20energy,of%20electricity%20of%20negative%20charge%22.
Classic,
Of course I have seen all that material discussed in the link you provided. I have studied Tesla for many years.
After all those years of research into the matter, my statement remains my conclusion.
PW
Classic:
Thanks for providing those links. I really do wonder about these guys, here. And their opinions.
It does seam as though they have some sight issues.
If I mention what I think is right, I get told that I can think what I want. Great.
while another expert in closed systems, calls ideas of energy from the ambient, asnine. Hellooo...
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 00:22:40
...
If I mention what I think is right, I get told that I can think what I want. Great.
NickZ
Nick,
What's the issue? Would you rather be told that you "can't" think what you want?
I am only telling you what my research indicates to me, based on confirmed facts, not speculation or questionable interpretations of what patents are actually meant to say instead of what they literally do say. Present something that contradicts my statement if you have such evidence.
It is just my take on it, you are certainly welcome to yours as well...
PW
PW:
The proof is in the pudding. Not just our different opinions, about free energy.
The issue, is what you are ignoring, and also to be told that cosmic field harvesting, are asnine ideas, by the expert.
Is not thinking what I want, at all.
I am after the truth not heresay, about limited personal findings. As that is what they want you to think.
80 trunks of nothing important, so they say... Trust and honesty must be out of style now. Not scientific...
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 02:02:26
PW:
The proof is in the pudding. Not just our different opinions, about free energy.
And to be told that cosmic field harvesting, are asnine ideas, by the expert. Is not thinking what I want, at all.
I am after the truth not here say, about limited personal findings. As that is what they want you to think.
NickZ
Nick,
That was not me that said that and it does not represent my opinion on the subject...
PW
Yes I know who said it, and to who.
The point being. That is one mas opinion.
Not written in stone.
And I would be interested in your take on all this. And why you are in favor of energy from the ambient, also.
The more that you investigate the ideas of self runner inventors, you'll find that a portion of them also work to prove and show their OU devices, and how and why they work as well as where the extra energy is coming from. At least they did. I have already given my take on it, many times, before. Nobody seams to care. And nobody wants to build anything, either. Except for Itsu.
NickZ
picowatt
QuoteAgain, what I said was "I have never seen any patent, document, lecture or demonstration from Tesla himself that would lead me to believe that he was ever able to produce any energy from some unknown or novel source (i.e., tap into the ambient or aether)."
Oh, really...
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_27.htm
QuoteThis new power for the driving of the world's machinery will be derived from the energy which operates the universe, the cosmic energy, whose central source for the earth is the sun and which is everywhere present in unlimited quantities- Nikola Tesla, 1933.
QuoteOn June 9th, 1902, both the New York Times and the New York Herald carried a story of a Clemente Figueras, a "woods and forest engineer," in the Canary Islands who invented a device for generating electricity without burning any fuel. What became of Figueras and his fuelless generator is not known, but this announcement in the paper prompted Tesla to send a clipping of the Herald story in a letter to his friend Robert Underwood Johnson, editor of Century Magazine.
In this letter, a part of the Nikola Tesla Collection, at Columbia University Library, Tesla claimed he had already developed such a generator and to have revealed the underlying physical laws.
In fact, the most credible and successful free energy inventors like Nikola Tesla, Clemente Figuera or T.H.Moray all claimed the same thing. They invented a self-acting machine, which does not consume any fuel, which they believed was powered by some form of cosmic energy. As well, like myself these successful FE inventors did not believe any of this technology violated the conservation of energy.
Think about that, why did all of the critics claim any FE device must violate the COE when anyone with any credibility knows nothing can violate the COE?. My belief is most of these critics were either incompetent or paid shills because early on nobody was suggesting any energy came from nowhere. The critics made that nonsense up to try and discredit these inventors. Only a fool would believe anything can just be created from nothing.
I'm not sure why so many people are making up nonsense about Tesla. Early on he claimed his life goal was to tie into the wheel work of nature. To extract clean energy from nature anywhere on the planet. As such anyone claiming they read Tesla's work and also claims Tesla didn't mention free energy is a liar.
I remember the first article I read about Nikola Tesla describing free energy as if it were yesterday. It was his lecture " THE PROBLEM OF INCREASING HUMAN ENERGY" from June of 1990. More so the section concerning...
QuoteA DEPARTURE FROM KNOWN METHODS—POSSIBILITY OF A "SELF-ACTING" ENGINE OR MACHINE, INANIMATE, YET CAPABLE, LIKE A LIVING BEING, OF DERIVING ENERGY FROM THE MEDIUM—THE IDEAL WAY OF OBTAINING MOTIVE POWER.
In fact, here Tesla quite literally describes how the concept of free energy actually works. Only a fool would believe they could do work lifting an object and then gain more energy from the same object falling. This is where the myth of violating the conservation of energy came from, from fools. As Tesla explains there is nothing to gain from repeating a conservative cycle where nothing changes. It does not matter whether the cycle is mechanical, electrical, hydraulic or otherwise. There is no extra energy to be gained unless the working medium being utilized can be transformed in some way.
From Tesla...
QuoteFor example, if heat be represented in this analogue by the water of the lake, the oxygen and hydrogen composing the water may illustrate other forms of energy into which the heat is transformed in passing from hot to cold. If the process of heat transformation were absolutely perfect, no heat at all would arrive at the low level, since all of it would be converted into other forms of energy. Corresponding to this ideal case, all the water flowing into the tank would be decomposed into oxygen and hydrogen before reaching the bottom, and the result would be that water would continually flow in, and yet the tank would remain entirely empty, the gases formed escaping. We would thus produce, by expending initially a certain amount of work to create a sink for the heat or, respectively, the water to flow in, a condition enabling us to get any amount of energy without further effort.
The concept is so simple even a child could understand it. Take a ball, it's just a ball and will always act just like a ball. However if we break the ball up into it's constituent smaller parts then it stops acting like a ball. The ball now has completely different properties than when it was whole. Now we drop the ball, it bounces back upward but as it does it breaks up into a million much smaller and lighter parts. Now external/environmental energy could act on all the smaller parts helping to lift them. Then at the peak of it's height we reassemble the ball back into it's original form. Conceptually this is how a "transformation" works. In part of the cycle we change the working medium to act like something else, we change it's properties, which changes the nature of cause and effect and the total energy present.
AC
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 02:02:26
PW:
The issue, is what you are ignoring...
NickZ
Nick,
I am not "ignoring" anything. However, I pick and choose what I let rile me up.
Life is too short...
PW
Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.10.30, 06:34:17
picowatt
Oh, really...
Yes, really...
The closest thing to be found from Tesla regarding the production of what we would call "free energy" is his radiant energy patent. For that he gets credit for work regarding the atmospheric potential gradient and the photoelectric effect. However, I have seen people twist and interpret his radiant energy work beyond recognition. His comments regarding Figuera's work, particularly with regard to commenting on the geographical location being ideal, leads me to believe he was discussing what is covered in his radiant energy patent when he made those comments.
PW
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 04:40:49
Yes I know who said it, and to who.
The point being. That is one mas opinion.
Not written in stone.
And I would be interested in your take on all this. And why you are in favor of energy from the ambient, also.
The more that you investigate the ideas of self runner inventors, you'll find that a portion of them also work to prove and show their OU devices, and how and why they work as well as where the extra energy is coming from. At least they did. I have already given my take on it, many times, before. Nobody seams to care. And nobody want to build anything, either. Except for Itsu.
NickZ
It seems that you care more about what others think than you do for your work, have some faith and trust your instincts. Maybe small steps approach might work better, check your wire length and calculate with precision to half millimetre, leave them a bit longer than trim the ends when you have a square wave at the right frequency, make sure all coils have the corresponding length so, they will couple wireless. Make sure you don't load the source and your load can be powered easy by the total capacity of the coil and have an impedance at least 10 times smaller the circuit providing energy. Voltage will drop when load is connected, that's why you need good amount of capacity in coil. Make sure there is multiple of 1/2 wave length at any ends of coils to get the connections at max amplitude. If your connections are anywhere else you lose all the gain.
And yet everyone ignore the most ever proof the over unity exist ...just look at human body, how much energy do we get and how much energy are we able to use on top of keeping us alive ? Or any living organism.
AC:
Thanks for your comments. I agree with your evaluations and point of view.
It's funny how stuck in conventional wisdom some guys like Verpies, MW, F6, Wesley, and others here can be about their book learning skills. But, have no practical skills in the art of free energy, at all. That's too bad. How well mind control works, and continues working also.
And, the sky is not blue, it's just how you are looking at it...
NickZ
MW:
The best advice you can provide is not telling me what I should do. But, to show how well your conventional electronics skills can build a self runner. But, you don't, because you can't. So, you just tell me about your advice and conventional process which has not worked for you. At least not providing for any free energy, nor OU of any type.
So, build something that works, show what YOU can do. Opinions are a dime a dozen. Especially wrong ones.
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 13:42:18
AC:
Thanks for your comments. I agree with your evaluations and point of view.
And I don't.
In his post, AC has not provided any links to free energy patents nor construction details of any free energy devices. He only posted a reference to some words that claimed to have accomplished that feat but without any proof or technical details. Picowatt was referring to his conclusions based on the study of the technology from the proverbial horse's mouth - not to the claims of 3
rd parties.
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 13:42:18
It's funny how stuck in conventional wisdom some guys like Verpies, MW, F6, Wesley, and others here can be about their book learning skills.
Rather it is funny how you reject the scientific attainment accumulated to date in your attempt to present yourself as an original out-of-the-box researcher.
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 13:42:18
But, have no practical skills in the art of free energy, at all.
Your out-of-the-box skills are equally useless in the art of free energy so how is your "original" way better ?
Quote from: NickZ on 2023.10.30, 13:42:18
That's too bad. How well mind control works, and continues working also.
Hero worship works well to the same end that you allude.
Verpies yes very amusing comments Watch this video and start at 18.7
Sil
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.10.31, 12:59:34
Verpies yes very amusing comments Watch this video and start at 18.7
Sil
AG: Once said, "you can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"...
However, you can sure waste some time listening to the "process", which has brought no results from conventional science.
Hero worship??? IF the shoe fits... better something from "nothing", than nothing from something.
NickZ
Re the John Badini video from A king I asked Verpies if there was anything to
the idea and if he had a formula from coil size to fly back energy gain or loss
but got nothing, When he asked me for help i gave it. Great ain it!
Sil
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.11.01, 19:19:32
Re the John Badini video from A king I asked Verpies if there was anything to
the idea and if he had a formula from coil size to fly back energy gain or loss
but got nothing, When he asked me for help i gave it. Great ain it!
Yes, I missed that question.
e=½Li
2It's a holiday in my part of the world.
Quote from: verpies on 2023.11.01, 22:27:49
Yes, I missed that question.
e=½Li2
It's a holiday in my part of the world.
Many thanks Verpies Enjoy your holiday
Sil