OverUnity Research

Crystals, my favorite subject. The application of pressure (compression-Russell) sees an Opposite and equal action of expansion, again Russell.
The natural vibrations within the atomic structure as Elemental Vibrations (mass spectrometry readings) are compressed with mechanical pressure when applied to a crystal. When the re-action takes place the Vibrations expand back the crystal. We see this as FIRE. (electrical sparks start fires because electricity is Fire) We think we see 'electricity' but its pure vibrational energy. We call this Piezoelectricity is the electric charge that accumulates in certain solid materials—such as crystals, certain ceramics, and biological matter such as bone, DNA, and various proteins—in response to applied mechanical stress. Note.... the natural elemental vibrations or Natural Frequency of the crystals is never discussed as being part of the Mechanism for the 'electrical' discharge. Energy in and energy out. Compression like pressure on a crystal, has a corresponding expansion reaction within the elemental Vibrations of the Crystal. Vibrations raised and vibrations returning to normal.. Increasing the Vibrations of the crystal with pressure increases the vibrations of the crystal and they want to EQUALIZE with the surrounds as a transfer of vibrations or a spark. Energy, Frequency and vibration gives us 'Electricity'

Adding light vibrational energy instead of 'mechanical pressure' energy, to a crystal does the SAME. The 'ruby' only harmonizes the vibrations. Same as the many light frequencies reflected off a "blue" surface all now vibrate with the frequency of Blue. The re-radiated Light from a 'blue' surface has harmonized the Light vibrations to the frequency of 'blue' in the EM spectrum. We only SEE reflections of light frequencies.

as a side note.... Water is blue. Ice is blue. Fire is blue and when we look at the WIND we see a blue sky. But we just cant put our finger on what it is thats "blue". Now you know. These 4 elemental states of 'water' Matter are Blue. Nothing Blue burned in the recent Maui DEW event and I know why.

Below is an excerpt from a "paper" I wrote on Electricity and only finished yesterday.... (its why I am back). It is another VIEW on how Electricity is Vibrations only. Its a MUST to understand this in order to be able to reverse engineer anything Tesla and Joe with his Cells.

This View, re-emerged with the Persian Magi and their 3 Baghdad batteries, once housed in the Baghdad Museum. These 3 "Cells" from 2000 years ago, when combined, would give about 4.5 Volts of magnetic Current or DC. These 3 Cells are all that is required to "Charge" Silver in North Pole, 'earth charged' water, to make anti-aging, life extending, healing 'elixirs' for consumption, saunas or bathing.

Silver has a mass spectrometer vibrational 'signature', specific to its place of origin on earth. The addition of battery DC from 3 Cells will increase these Silver Frequencies/vibrations with the 'elemental vibrations' of Iron and copper as the 'source' of the DC from three Cells as 'electricity'.

The nature of ac and dc 'electricity'

The very 'nature' of Magnetic Alternating and Direct Current or AC and DC, would be the most contested concept within academia. Here we look at the production and usage of AC and DC, for the design of the theoretical structure of the atom. A battery 'effect' is two dissimilar 'elements' in close proximity in a shared conductive medium where two differing elemental vibrations 'interact' as a 'flow' of vibrational magnetic current. This 'flow' is: The Atomic Crystals vibrating within the circuit as 'electricity producers' that vibrates all conducting materials within the circuit.

These vibrations of 'Elemental Iron and Copper' in a coil surrounding an iron ingot, permanently 'magnetizes' the iron by the Coils 'Magnetic Field' and is 'retained' as a new Magnetic memory or Hyper-Charged Field Pattern within the Resonating 'snowflake like' Crystalline 'Field patterns' within Irons atomic structure.

The 'Atom' is a Tetrahedron Crystal and is indivisible and constitutes 'everything'. This Prima Matter of our Universe is a 4 sided Crystal comprising six Magnetic Light structures. Each magnetic Light Crystal is like a variable tuning fork. Their collective Field vibrations, constitutes every 'elements' unique 'frequency signature pattern' or RESONATING PATTERN where "Everything is the Light" within our Universal Field.

Iron in Alchemical terms is 'organic' and originates as petrified sediments of dead ocean microbes or Haematite. The iron ingot is a purified or condensed 'element' made by a living Bio Magnetic organism in water. Magnetism is as academically contested as 'electricity' even when everything has a magnetic Field Polarity. 

This Baghdad Cell design creates a Magnetic Field of vibrations in a coil that magnetizes iron. The iron/copper frequencies or vibrations held within the Field of the coil, vibrates the iron ingots tuning fork atoms/Light crystals with similar vibrations. we refer to this as Charging Up or 'hyper-charging' the residual Memory of Bio Magnetic vibrations in the iron. The Alchemy of magnetism is re-activating the Bio Magnetic Memory within an iron ingot with iron/copper Field vibrations in a copper coil. This 3D Magnetic Field then penetrates or vibrates all matter within its Field to harmonize or unify all Atomic Crystals within the Field. Tesla's AC is made with copper and iron. Electricity mysteriously originated in a Blacksmiths R&D Lab. A Diode by its two metal construct is the very definition of a 'battery'. Pulsed or AC 'vibrations' going into a battery/diode, will come out as flat-line DC.

Tesla's AC is made with iron magnets that exhibit a NON Physical 'iron filing' Wave Form Field in 3D created by Hyper-Charging. Each time the magnets Compression and Expansion Wave Fields pass a Copper coil in a generator, the 'waves' pass through the copper coil and Vibrate all the Light Crystals in the coil with how ever many 'waves' to increase the vibrations of the copper crystals with these non-physical wave forms, 60 times a sec. It is a massive disturbance or increase of vibrations within the Coppers Crystalline Field. These Identical magnetic Tetrahedrons all touching one another, all vibrate each other like tuning forks from the generator to electric jug at the speed of light. All conductive wires or components connected to this Coil will also vibrate the 'air' around the wires due to the Field Effect of Magnetic Vibrations. It is this vibrating atmospheric Wind Field or Air Crystals that that our radio antenna "picks up". This is the 'mechanism' of electro-magnetic Field Propagation or radio 'wave' transmission. EMF from iron and copper can heal whereas uranium and radium destroys life. Radio waves, like sound waves ONLY vibrate Wind's atomic Crystalline Structure.

Flatine DC is continuous vibrations between iron and copper. AC is iron vibrating copper 60 times a second. Electricity is vibrations and vibrations create wave forms. The AC sine wave form, exhibits 4 'phases' of 'electricity' or Magnetism. Electricity is an effect between two 'elemental frequencies'. More like tuning forks transmitting 'energy' to each other. It is not a 'particle'. The vibrational effect can 'jump' short distances between conductors in a Conductive medium or gas much like radio waves jump to the radio. We may see it as a spark, lightning or FIRE. We use this magnetic Field of vibrating Air crystal (molecules ) to listen to music.

"The Electric Universe is energy, frequency and vibrating Light Crystals". MerLynn

things to note in the above...  The Mechanism of radio wave propagation and magnetic Field Generation being the SAME. Transmission of radio waves or frequency MUST have tuning forks touching each other from one antenna to the other. But lets just call it "propagation" without any real science as to the Mechanism. Just to propagate more theories and award nobel prizes for the 'best'.

So back to Crystals and vibrations.
Newton, an Alchemist himself and privy to ancient texts, rewrote the Natural Laws governing Energy, Frequency and Vibration. Some call it Sympathetic Vibrational Physics. I prefer Magnetic Field Science but Russell uses other terms. So how do we make or get more vibrations out than we pressure in? Well you cant unless you can modify the atomic structure. Human technology doesnt allow us to do this ... yet. We need to find Edgar Cayce's "Great Crystal" from Posidea to replicate this Over unity aspect of a GMO or Atlantean Fire Crystal. Such Crystals can be found  at one specific location on Earth. Newton failed to factor in the Quintessence or 5th element when re-writing his obsolete Laws.

Once sourced, this crystal is then faceted like a brilliant cut diamond and a focused laser beam is applied and the resultant myriad of light beams emitted can have a Diode placed to 'collect' each individual light beam of frequencies and 'converted' to 'electricity'. Visible light has a frequency of Vibration. A diode takes these Vibrations and converts ANY FREQUENCY input like even AC and converts it to DC or battery electricity. This is the principle of a solar Cell. Unless of course you fell for the conversion of light to electricity without any actual mechanism to do so. One of the first questions I asked of members that was deleted in the samsung thread was  "what is a DIODE"? It coverts ANY Vibration to Direct Current or battery Magnetic Current. And of course Whitelightningwizard correctly answered the question. So just what is this quartz crystal called THE TRANSISTOR? any takers?

ALL electromagnetic radiation (any frequency of the EMF) can be converted into electricity. Why use just the visible light spectrum? So you wont figure it out of course.
I first heard of this guy several years ago... He like Joe, run up against over educated fake and gay particle science theorists  all the time.
https://t.me/JustJuanOSavin/96580      not the best link but....

How does over unity crystal energy work? Theoretically, a Laser Beam is the production of a Light Beam of a certain frequency, "bouncing" back and forth between two 'mirrors' and exiting the 'lessor' mirror when the 'energy' exceeds the mirrors ability to reflect it back to the other mirror.

The 'laser' apparatus, is an accumulator or capacitor of Light frequencies. The 'capacitance effect' or insulated layers of conductive materials, are the LAYERED crystalline 'matrix' of the Crystal itself. The crystals natural Elemental Frequency determines the lasers frequency. Otherwise it would work with just glass and mirrors. Now if we could find a crystalline structure where the Layers were "Doublely Layered" so they reflect or vibrate back to themselves as well as to the other layers of crystals that make its Matrix, it would be a 'feed back loop', effect or over unity. The crystal may explode if the vibrations have no where to go like the thermo Nuke blast that sank Posidea.

If a laser light is beamed into a Unique double Lattice Crystal Structure, negligible loss of vibrations, coupled with the beam being split into many beams sees each beam with the near potential of its originating Beam and a Diode to collect these Light Beam vibrations make electricity in each diode. Our laser split into 6 beams gave us near 3 times the energy.

This forum and most of its readers havent bridged the relationship between Elemental Frequency and electricity. But only with crystals and lasers being about their uses. It could be postulated that the Laser Light entering the Crystal and the Crystal itself constitute the two differing elemental frequencies that define a BATTERY.  Its proffered here as part of the Vibrational Field Science principles. And of course if anyone wants to replicate this with a 3D printer for Diode placement inside a 'cup' for the beams of light to activate well placed diodes I can assist with their procurement. The following pdf I converted this morning is an experiment that was part of the Venture Capital invested into a private R&D company to build over unity devices. We flew overseas to source these crystals and hired a gem cutter to facet them and then we set the apparatus up. It was done in 1997 and we've done a lot more since. Once the MIND irrefutably learns of the Crystals 'powers' the rest is easy. For most this is all too hard.
This is but one of an infinite number of ways to use these crystals with material devices. The best is when we connect our 'battery terminal' hands to its Field Propagation abilities on things like rings, wands or Crowns, to use Hermes, Law of Mental Universe, energies upon them with an over unity of Mind over matter.
MerLynn

Welcome to your bench MerLynn.

I will be following your posts with interest. I'm of the opinion that there's much we don't understand about the world we live on and today's science, as great as it is doesn't have all the answers.

Regarding crystals I remember several years ago charging a couple of Lead acid batteries on our brand new Granite kitchen worktop. To my horror the space the batteries had occupied now showed the matrix of the cell structure ingrained into the stone. Luckily the matrix has now virtually disappeared but we have two distinct marks, one around the electric tooth brush charger and the other along the line of the Microwave oven door.

Cheers Graham.

Hi Merlynn, not sure if you've come across this site on your crystal travels... https://www.marcelvogel.org/ ... lots of great information here from a former IBM scientist. I've also built a phryll generator that I'm testing.

Quote from: unimmortal on 2023.12.07, 22:03:52
Hi Merlynn, not sure if you've come across this site on your crystal travels... https://www.marcelvogel.org/ ... lots of great information here from a former IBM scientist. I've also built a phryll generator that I'm testing.

I came across this vogul crystal and its associated contactee site several years ago. Recently a member here posted his quite expansive site and I again just last week read it all again. I note that they ALSO SAY THAT THE UNIVERSE is made from Tetrahedron crystals... I was going to add this site as part of 'proof' of the Light Crystal Universe.  I sent wlw a link about it a couple weeks ago.

Now imagine if Vogul actually knew about Fire Crystals.....

Thankyou Grum

I am hoping some one tells me what a transistor is used for in an 'electrical' circuit.
It is of course, based on Crystal Technology. Silica Dioxide or Quartz IS a Transistor.
Members here use Crystal Technology everyday and know not what a Transistor is, where it came from, and most importantly what else it can do. Allow me to enlighten on this subject.

The Transistor opened the door for miniaturization of electronics. Without it, we'd still be replacing valves when they break down.
The following is from memory so I welcome any errors being pointed out.
The Transistor was patented in 1955 by Texas Instruments a R&D lab of Bell AT&T.
The patent office refused to grant the Patent until TI showed where the 'technology' originated from. TI refused to do so and the resultant court case against the Patent office ruled in favour of TI because its not the job of the Patent office to understand the history of any patent, only that it 'works'.
When they salvaged the Roswell 'craft' in 1947, TI got the 'instrument panel' to reverse engineer the components. This is the ALIEN origins of the Transistor. I am sure there are instances of re-written histories out there in internet land.

What their poor quality instruments detected was, components in the circuitry used what they analyzed as "quartz" or the Silicon Chip.
Little did they know what they held in their hands was a Double Lattice Structure of a GMO Crystal. Also known as The Great Crystal or an Atlantean Fire Crystal. A Power Crystal with Over Unity functions. Tesla said 'Crystals are "alive". Little did he know or perhaps his Venusian relatives did tell him that Life is in Everything. This is the same Special crystal that the Mitchel Hodges Skull is 'carved' from. Where strange and Mysterious 'happenings' surround this skulls public appearances. (google it I cant type everything) In a 'nutshell' this crystal responds to the thoughts of the audience with 'events' like shitting ones pants, when upon first seeing the Crystal on Display one 'reporter' thought to himself "what a load of shit" the stories about this crystal skull, and promptly shit his pants.

To have such Reaction to the Action of thought energy and shit, makes the perfect Crystal for a craft without a steering wheel or other visible forms of control. The 'head gear' to operate this craft basically consists of 'headgear' that has 4 contact points on the skull to 'interface' with its Crystal Drive, located just above the ears and either side of the base of the skull at the rear. The craft went to where the pilot was thinking. The Power Plant of the craft also has a Crystal at its centre encased in Magnets, the size of an average thermos of coffee. It too created the power on demand from the Will of the Pilot. We have managed to use this technology in a less than Kindergarten fashion. I am pretty sure if I know what they found, DARPA also knows and have advanced this tech many fold. Consider Artificial Intelligence if they used Fire Crystals instead of Quartz and Platinum instead of copper wires. The Circuit would obey your every command. Wizard Conditions Apply in accordance with Hermes Law that the Universe is Mental. You aint gonna get to the stars on fire cracker technology or have free energy with the continuance of South Pole Positive Heat Expansive Energy Generation. The opposite and equal of which is termed Cold Fusion.

This Fire Crystal has many ways to use its 'powers'. I have given but one as its uses to amplify FREQUENCIES greater than the input as a device for 'electricity' generation via Solar Cell.

To Program these Crystals so they 'obey' as an obedient Life Form or Pet Rock. They are placed between the two terminals of a Battery and Love projected into the 'circuit'.

FAITH, that word the Satanists have all but obliterated to take God from the psych of the Planet is but an ACT OF LOVE.
If you have FAITH in 'someone' or 'thing' it means you Love it unconditionally and BELIEVE that person or thing will be what you want it to be as in Loving a Child one believes (faith) the child will grow to be a Good Person. You have Faith in that child. So the very meaning of Love and Faith have been perverted from their original meanings. So has 'prayer'. It is advisable to start believing in Love and Faith in Higher Powers because those who CONTROL the Planet most certainly do and their higher power is satanic. YOU have a HIGHER POWER and to understand how you get this ANIMATING Power that keeps YOU alive will be the subject of another thread because Victor Schauberger said to study NATURE to understand the Physics around YOU.

Your HANDS are TERMINALS for your Brain/BATTERY. So the crystal is placed in the Palms of your hands much like one is PRAYING, with the Crystal between the 2 terminal hands but only touching the Crystal. Now project Love to the Crystal like the Faith you place upon your Kids. Like a Child's Love. It can also be done by connecting a small AA battery to each end of the crystal and holding the electrodes with the fingers to AMPLIFY the vibrational Memory one is imparting to the Crystal if one has some aversion to Praying Love and Faith to a crystal Cayce and Tesla said is Alive.

Now you have a real Pet Rock that can be used in unique over unity circuits and other Mind Force Inventions or Jewellery Creations for Personal Power Enhancement. No other Crystal on the Planet has these properties. Once upon a time they did. But that historical aspect is for another time.

What is a Transistor or more precisely, what does it do in overunity(reseach).com's  opinion when USING it to make Over Unity vibrations?
 
You could buy in Wesley, arent you the 'expert' on these physical phenomenon?

Important question giving this and all other 'energy' forums seem to be lacking for results. 

Sir
Here a bench has always been a path towards an experiment ,
an open source experiment.

We have plenty of persons interested in such experiments, I am hoping
To engage a few this week who might be able to help with a replication
of this laser/crystal gain mechanism.

In 1997 lasers were more laboratory equipment..fairly to "very" expensive ,
Nowadays not so much ( starting under ten dollars and up ..)
And we have access to labs globally ( Open source LENR community)

I can assure you it will not be casting pearls to uninterested parties . ...
Quite the contrary..sincere open minded FE researchers ,perfectly willing to
Look outside the box ( I believe most here ( and elsewhere) fit that bill).

Respectfully
Chet K

I would recommend for those interested, to read the info in the following link about the origin of the first transistor, that is, the point contact transistor.  The development was started in 1945 and ended with a successful working device in late 1947.  As some others here, I grew up on vacuum tubes and remember studying the early transistor development to later learn about semi doping, etc.

point contact transistor (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj49uj71oCDAxWQmmoFHW2uAfYQFnoECDAQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fds-wordpress.haverford.edu%2Fbitbybit%2Fbit-by-bit-contents%2Fchapter-eight%2F8-2-the-point-contact-transistor%2F&usg=AOvVaw0VwElWZA_XiAwQKL-0fnEO&opi=89978449)

Pm

For decades, scientists were baffled by the behavior of semiconductors. For example, in early 1940 a Bell Labs scientist names Russell S. Ohl fashioned a block of silicon that was divided into two different electrical regions, one containing an excess of electrons and another an excess of holes, or positive charges. (This was accomplished by doping, or chemically contaminating, the silicon with positive and negative impurities during manufacture.)

this is manufactured Fake History.
being  patented in 1955 means the FOR DECADES part is fictitious and as the First Premise of a 'debate' it means that all else that follows is fake.
Who were these 'scientists'? just except is as fact sheeple.
2 'regions' gives two distinct 'charges' principle of a battery AND a diode.  Look I can make HOLES in the atomic structure....
And there's that magical ELECTRON .... where do you people come from?
Its not a Crystal... its some freak compound with impurities...

really cant you do better? Did people not learn anything from the expose of FAKE NEWS and fake narratives?

Again I ask. what is a Transistor....?  If i wanted to be lied to I would google it. But I really want to know by the people who try to make over unity energy... not from the fake Scientists... not with fake particles science, but what this Transistor does IN YOUR CIRCUITS.

is that such a hard question?

and yes I knew that they were working on replacing the tube valve even before the war... got anything else?

Sir
Sorry you thought this was a debating event ( the moderator/builder benches here )
I thought you had genuine interest in early Transistor history as it applied to the "crystal " or ?
And unfortunately asked Partzman for a bit of help starting a discussion towards your application of crystals
In your crystal and laser energy gain claim .

The idea here is to show this claim in a replication ( not by your hand )
And assembling the talent and pieces is all part of the process.

Is this something you are interested in seeing here ?
Or is the above post more indicative of why you are really here (on a moderated bench ?
A slanderous debating fisticuffs event ?

Please answer it is very important.
Respectfully
Chet K

Quote from: partzman on 2023.12.08, 20:41:28
I would recommend for those interested, to read the info in the following link about the origin of the first transistor, that is, the point contact transistor.  The development was started in 1945 and ended with a successful working device in late 1947.  As some others here, I grew up on vacuum tubes and remember studying the early transistor development to later learn about semi doping, etc.

point contact transistor (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj49uj71oCDAxWQmmoFHW2uAfYQFnoECDAQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fds-wordpress.haverford.edu%2Fbitbybit%2Fbit-by-bit-contents%2Fchapter-eight%2F8-2-the-point-contact-transistor%2F&usg=AOvVaw0VwElWZA_XiAwQKL-0fnEO&opi=89978449)

Pm

Although not put into practice at the time due to limitations in available materials, Lilienfeld patented the field effect transistor in 1925.

The point contact transistor was invented almost simultaneously at Westinghouse in France but Bell labs filed and published first.  The Westinghouse transistor was more robust than the barely holding itself together Bell labs device.

The history and evolution of the transistor is readily available...

PW

Crystal Generation of Energy (electricity) is superior to Vacuum Cell Generation, is superior to (Teslas) Rotating Magnetic Field for UNLIMITED over unity. Which, by the way, all comes from the Aether which is different than making 'electricity' Mechanically as the ONLY method of endeavor on this site. I can but conclude 'experts' WANT to keep it that way as surly people cant be that closed minded....

The reason for this Crystal Thread, is so members can understand what it is they are trying to achieve and learn some new stuff.
Particle Science if you want to call it that, is the 'blueprint' of present 'physics', if you can call it that.
Its the very reason nothing has come from any over unity research or LENR site.
Anyone check out my last post on LENR.com? I tried to explain with examples of JoeCells, how SCALAR has nothing to do with 'longitudinal' because it has NO Hertz. For which I got banned. They just couldnt see the changes in the water color and its restructuring into oil as a LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTION. In their indoctrinated 'view', it cannot happen so its fake and I tried another route to explain "scalar' and well they want to remain ignorant so, so be it.

So its back to the basics. To "GIVE AWAY" schematics and device designs based upon another understanding of Universal Physics means those still reverse engineering, replicating or trying to comprehend this advancement in Human Intellect, will fail every time. 1000's of JoeCell replicators proved this. And of course no one can duplicate the Wardenclyffe tower until Joe came along. It starts with the Samsung Motor and the creation of a Neutral Centre or Joe calls it EQUILIBRIUM. This isnt some haphazard thing discovered in a shed (well actually it is) it is an EXACT SCIENCE of Magnetic Field Creation using water instead of wires to make a Tesla COIL, for Field Generation. We can use Crystals too in many ways.

Until members fully grasp what it is this 'electricity' they are trying to make muchly more of and the ITEMS used in their Devices, I dont see a turnaround in results coming anytime soon. Since Jan 20th 2017, Fake History, Fake science, Fake news Disinfo, Misinfo, fact checkers, media stooges, Popular Mechanics proving jet fuel did 911, have all come under the spot light. I focus on the fake science and medicine. Any 'conspiracy theory' that hasnt been proved still out there?

Its called the Awaking or the Apocalypse where the truth of your reality is brought out into the Light.

These Fire Crystals, while they can be bought on ebay for a couple hundred for appropriate size and perfection, cant be cut 'like a diamond'. As Vogul states they must be cut along their Axis and the angles are quite critical for some uses. While that above attachment of an experiment done in 1997 is valid and can be replicated, its replication is for an already equipped Lab. This knowledge has been handed down for millennia by word of mouth. From Teacher to apprentice where the adept must make all his own 'items' and there is a Y Factor reason for this. Along with Breathing exercises to strengthen one's BATTERY Power to activate the crystal because a couple AA's didnt exist in the past, it was done 'differently'. I can by pass all these tedious tasks thanks to modern Mechanical equipment but not the understandings of what it is you are holding in your hands as a crystal or Diode or even the metal Iron. Gold, for example, is NOT of Earthly origin although it is from the Earths Magnetic Field in origin. Without this knowledge, one cant access its 'hidden' uses. Tutenconeheaden had an iron and a gold dagger held in each hand. This is significant and even more so when Iron wasnt 'invented' for another couple 1000 years. Lets just look at the Death Mask of Gold. With the proper placement of 2 Ferrite Magnets upon plain 'iron' as in a washer, one can manufacture or produce a washer that NEVER Rusts. But Tuts NON Rusting Iron Dagger is Nothing to see here move on. Tin is found only as the Crystal Considerite. Who or Where did this Knowledge come from to bake a crystal with Carbon to get a metal. It was NOT an accident. It was knowledge given to Man from some where else. An Awakening. Same as the Blacksmiths Lab created the Baghdad Battery. Its origins will never be understood in a world where they LIE about the Transistors origins to keep you from playing with crystals and trying to make holes in them. Most sites wont even acknowledge they were a 'battery' with ONLY electro plating as their sole idea obtained from firmly inside some box or book at uni.

This Awakening to the Magnetics of the Atomic Structure (completely ignored by Institutionalized Professors) is not for everyone. Here, one would have thought everyone would like to know instead of stuffing a dirty crystal full of them for their 'energy' manipulation abilities. It is the Magnetics of the Atomic Structure that gives us 'electricity'.

What is a Transistor? What does it do IN YOUR CIRCUIT? Anyone ever joined them together in series and then powered them up? It is a crystal after all.

is this something you are interested in seeing here ?
Or is the above post more indicative of why you are really here (on a moderated bench ?
A slanderous debating fisticuffs event ?

I think my previous post explained that.

I thought you had genuine interest in early Transistor history as it applied to the "crystal "
"History is BUNK".... Henry Ford.
Where even that 'history is bunk'.... is a misquote by NY times

Its not about the History of the transistor... its about  (for the umteenth time) What is a Transistor? What does it do IN YOUR CIRCUIT?

Science accepts nothing is proven until one proves it to ones self... The internet will NEVER give the true history of the transistor simply because its a national security issue.
So my thread is spammed with questionable internet history and I am to blame?

You could chet tell me what you expect from transistors in your circuits...  and save all this debating so we can move to understanding how to use crystals in over unity.

Please  stop inferring persons here are intentionally trying to disrupt or hinder your
Presentation.
Quite the contrary
Trying to get where your going ..?


Please just keep this civil

Hi

it's a shame my post explaining what a diode is was removed by admins. because a Transistor is just two inverse series diodes with a centre-tap.
NPN vs PNP difference is just the way we stack the diodes, front-2-front or back-2-back.

I surmise most on this forum would use Transistors for current amplification. or amplifying a waveform of low amplitude to one of higher amplitude.
like amplifying an audio signal for example.

Cheers  O0
wlw

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.09, 03:50:48
...a Transistor is just two inverse series diodes with a centre-tap.

No, because diodes connected in such manner cannot both conduct current at the same time in series, while a BJT transistor can conduct current between the emitter and collector.
Besides the BJT, other types of transistors also exist, which act nothing like two diodes, and they are more ubiquitous, too.
The BJT was not the first type of transistor to be invented, either.

As I am not electrotechnician (I learn it on the way as amateur), transistor does switching in my circuit. I use it actually only for this, because I have only not difficult circuits.
Andy

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.09, 03:50:48
Hi

it's a shame my post explaining what a diode is was removed by admins. because a Transistor is just two inverse series diodes with a centre-tap.
NPN vs PNP difference is just the way we stack the diodes, front-2-front or back-2-back.

I surmise most on this forum would use Transistors for current amplification. or amplifying a waveform of low amplitude to one of higher amplitude.
like amplifying an audio signal for example.

Cheers  O0
wlw

Sir
I can assure you no administrator removed such a technical post
This forum is unusual in that members ( builders) control content in their own benches, if they deem a post a distraction or off topic, they can just remove it.

What is actually a shame is to infer nefarious intent by owners of this forum ( which I am not )
And then not repost your contribution here within your friends moderated topic ?

Sincerely
Chet K

Quote from: Chet K on 2023.12.09, 09:50:56
Sir
I can assure you no administrator removed such a technical post
This forum is unusual in that members ( builders) control content in their own benches, if they deem a post a distraction or off topic, they can just remove it.

What is actually a shame is to infer nefarious intent by owners of this forum ( which I am not )
And then not repost your contribution here within your friends moderated topic ?

Sincerely
Chet K

As global moderator for this forum I can verify that no one in admin removed/deleted your post.

Cheers Graham.

Chet and Graham

It was on Cadman's bench on Samsung Generator and I can no longer find it?

so Cadman is moderator then? so he would be admin.

Maybe I don't belong here??

Call it what u will, but content is being removed by those who deem it "necessary" which is censorship.

Cheers,
wlw

  Instead of writing essays on your opinion of crystals. You show us just how much electric power your crystal device can output, instead? Or is it that you can't do that? Or is that a secret, also? As in this case, opinions are a dime a dozen, until proven.

   NickZ

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.09, 06:50:53
No, because diodes connected in such manner cannot both conduct current at the same time in series, while a BJT transistor can conduct current between the emitter and collector.
Besides the BJT, other types of transistors also exist, which act nothing like two diodes, and they are more ubiquitous, too.
The BJT was not the first type of transistor to be invented, either.

Have u tried such arrangement?

well have seen transistor switching with point contact on piece of carbon. probably first kind of 'electronic switch' was something akin.

wlw

   Merlyn:
   Do you have a working free energy device? One that you can show, and explain in details just how it works and how much power it can generate? We don't need untested opinions.
   As opinions here are a dime a dozen, if not showing a device self running, that works. Unlike everything else that has been presented here and on other forums, up to this date. No free energy replications. Period. Just unproven opinions, which have gotten us nowhere. Can you show us something that YOU built, self running? More than just your opinions?
   I would be very interested in seeing a crystal free energy device, self running, instead. Can you do that? Yes?

   NickZ

Transistors, like silicon diodes, use P and N layers. The same is used in solar panels, but they are different compounds.
The silicon/crystal diode itself receives energy from the surroundings. It works similarly to PV. Take 10 LEDs and connect them together.
Shine a flashlight and see how much current flows. So diodes and transistors are miniature solar panels. Of course, this is just a comparison and it may not be perfect, but it is basic.

Such PV does not work without the sun. A tuning fork without a hammer doesn't work either, but it is true that everything vibrates, but not as much as we need it to.

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.09, 13:24:58
Have u tried such arrangement?

Yes I did. I was 8 years old then.

Quote from: maxmalone on 2023.12.09, 14:11:09
Transistors, like silicon diodes, use P and N layers. The same is used in solar panels, but they are different compounds.
The silicon/crystal diode itself receives energy from the surroundings. It works similarly to PV. Take 10 LEDs and connect them together.
Shine a flashlight and see how much current flows. So diodes and transistors are miniature solar panels. Of course, this is just a comparison and it may not be perfect, but it is basic.

Such PV does not work without the sun. A tuning fork without a hammer doesn't work either, but it is true that everything vibrates, but not as much as we need it to.

No they are not, you would have be able to have the pn junction open and its not like that in a conventional diode.

Sil

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.09, 13:16:44
Chet and Graham

It was on Cadman's bench on Samsung Generator and I can no longer find it?

so Cadman is moderator then? so he would be admin.

Maybe I don't belong here??

Call it what u will, but content is being removed by those who deem it "necessary" which is censorship.

Cheers,
wlw

Sir,
and with that mindset
Now you are posting in administrator Merlyn's board ...

One note
All posters must follow terms of service and "power and creed" ( guidelines for OU claims)
We cannot make a mess of our hosts life ( by writing things which can cause legal or other issues here)
Or just make a mess of forum ( been a dicey trip last few years)

And yes the theme here is open source FE research and experiments
 
" closed source" hasn't worked very well for our planets future .

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.08, 23:34:18
For decades, scientists were baffled by the behavior of semiconductors. For example, in early 1940 a Bell Labs scientist names Russell S. Ohl fashioned a block of silicon that was divided into two different electrical regions, one containing an excess of electrons and another an excess of holes, or positive charges. (This was accomplished by doping, or chemically contaminating, the silicon with positive and negative impurities during manufacture.)

this is manufactured Fake History.
being  patented in 1955 means the FOR DECADES part is fictitious and as the First Premise of a 'debate' it means that all else that follows is fake.
Who were these 'scientists'? just except is as fact sheeple.
2 'regions' gives two distinct 'charges' principle of a battery AND a diode.  Look I can make HOLES in the atomic structure....
And there's that magical ELECTRON .... where do you people come from?
Its not a Crystal... its some freak compound with impurities...

really cant you do better? Did people not learn anything from the expose of FAKE NEWS and fake narratives?

Again I ask. what is a Transistor....?  If i wanted to be lied to I would google it. But I really want to know by the people who try to make over unity energy... not from the fake Scientists... not with fake particles science, but what this Transistor does IN YOUR CIRCUITS.

is that such a hard question?

and yes I knew that they were working on replacing the tube valve even before the war... got anything else?

What is the mystery with your repeated question above?  Do you really know how a bipolar junction transistor [BJT] works?  If not, let me explain in simple terms what most of us believe to be the operating principle.  This of course means that you are obligated to give your theory on the operation of the BJT if it differs!

In terms of conventional current flow, any current applied to the base and emitter junction creates a larger current flow in the collector to emitter region that is normally connected to positive and negative potentials respectively.

Your turn!

Pm

Quote from: partzman on 2023.12.09, 15:41:05
What is the mystery in terms of conventional current flow, any current applied to the base and emitter junction creates a larger current flow in the collector

you really havent answered the question only provided more mystery...  What is this Current Flow?
Can anyone provide pictures of these 'junctions' as the actual POINT of connection to the crystal.
What is this larger current flow?
Anyone ever connected them in series?

What is the POINT?  To learn about crystals of course. Why do we want to learn about crystals? because they are the Rolls Royce of Space Drive Tech. We start by understanding HOW a crystal Functions.  Sure it works... does it make more electrons in this larger current flow?

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.09, 20:36:32
you really havent answered the question only provided more mystery...  What is this Current Flow?

OK, I'll play!  I don't know so enlighten me.

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Can anyone provide pictures of these 'junctions' as the actual POINT of connection to the crystal.

I'm sure you're well aware of the many on-line photos and details of semiconductor construction.

Quote
What is this larger current flow?

Again, enlighten us!

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Anyone ever connected them in series?

Yes, I have in many different configurations and designs in both analog and digital.  And what was I supposed to see?

Quote
What is the POINT?  To learn about crystals of course. Why do we want to learn about crystals? because they are the Rolls Royce of Space Drive Tech. We start by understanding HOW a crystal Functions.  Sure it works... does it make more electrons in this larger current flow?

Then tell us, what is the operation of a "crystal" in regards to semiconductors that is different from what is commonly known today?  Special current, voltage, etc?  What? 

How does displacement current in a simple capacitor fit into your crystal theory?

Pm

@wlw

Cadman has said he was attempting to clean up his thread claiming we never provided anything that could be construed as tangible working model and the powers that be blacked it out figuratively speaking. It was there in Theory. All that was left out was the orientation of the Magnets and that was explained in Joe's video. I explained it as North Pole Magnetism is where the magic is. The present LEVEL of technology on earth uses primarily South Pole magnetic force. Fire crackers for space exploration. Expansion in Russellian terms. When the Rotating Fields are Harmonized and the Neutral Centre made North Pole, Magic happens. (also known as Cold Fusion) But all cadman wanted was a fully working patent like disclosure. Why am I insisting that the theory goes along with the schematics? Because the Last Over Unity device I Gave to the world freely was perverted by over educated people in marble science and reverse engineered as a cluster fark totally destroying any lifting of Vibrations within the Human psych and the new teachings about Field Science verses marble science.

This 'crystal' discourse is going to be all about Vibrations not a Flow of Electrons and until we get to the bottom of what it is that this so called crystal in the transistor is DOING and by this we will examine every Point or electrode placement until and why and for what reason, there isnt much point in continuing this thread.

In years to come people will pay or borrow for student loans 100's of 1000's for what I am giving here freely and being received with a lot of emotion it seems. Absolutely amazing such feedback we are receiving eh wlw?

I have 1000's of pages from posts on dozens of forums spanning 2 decades. Except the samsumg one. And God only knows of the synchronicity of LOSING this most informative subject. It means they arent ready for this info... we have to run with that wlw. They clearly dont want to be enlightened, they only want Light for free without the understanding The Light that this level up entails.

One of the 'prizes' that can be had with a full understanding of Crystal energy or crystal modulation of energy is pictured below. Its possible to make this incorrectly and one of the 'beams' may come back in the direction of your heart and drill a whole right through it in the blinking of an eye. We are in effect reverse engineering alien tech when attempting to make real Tesla over unity as he came from Venus. Marble science is earthly tech.

As per UFO disclosure trying to go thru US congress as we write this, it was and still is important for the human narrative to remove any 'alien' source of info for the transistor and give it a "History" to obscure their reverse engineering of the many 'things' that the US Military have sequestered around the earth. (which includes the Baghdad batteries stolen in Iraq 2003 along with Gilgameshes tomb of 'things'.) Many here dont see it that way and so should refrain from participating in this expose thread with copypaste wiki extracts as "facts" pertaining to earthly tech  They dont think like we do wlw.... yet.

Quote from: partzman on 2023.12.09, 21:04:34
OK, I'll play!  I don't know so enlighten me.
current flow is Vibrations, one is only 'adding vibrations'

I'm sure you're well aware of the many on-line photos and details of semiconductor construction.
No Im not. For the first time last nite I googled a picture of a transistor and got side tracked on FLUX... the best BS dose ive had in months.

Again, enlighten us!
"If you want to understand the Electric Universe think in terms of energy, frequency and vibrating Light Crystals"  Tesla wanted people to THINK FOR THEMSELVES... The reasons many inventions have come from Fields of Endeavor they were unfamiliar with is because Inventors think for themselves not google pics of transistors.

Yes, I have in many different configurations and designs in both analog and digital.  And what was I supposed to see?
Does not this transistor/crystal device have GAIN   What is this GAIN function as explained in Vibratory Physics terms not in some imaginary marble..........

Then tell us, what is the operation of a "crystal" in regards to semiconductors that is different from what is commonly known today?  Special current, voltage, etc? 
We are still determining just what it is doing to 'electricity'. one step at a time.


How does displacement current in a simple capacitor fit into your crystal theory?
What is displacement Current...? actually what is this Current you want me to understand?

Pm

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.09, 21:56:34
We are in effect reverse engineering alien tech when attempting to make real Tesla over unity as he came from Venus.

Although many like to claim otherwise, there is no evidence of Tesla ever producing what we would call "over unity".

His radiant energy patent is the closest to what may be considered "free energy" and for that he gets partial credit for discovering the atmospheric potential gradient and the photoelectric effect.

But, "Venus", really?  That pretty much says it all...

PW

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.09, 22:54:15
  That pretty much says it all...

PW

Then say no more....

Claiming Tesla was an alien from the planet Venus surely qualifies as an "extraordinary claim".

As the saying goes, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"...

Perhaps he was an "ET" from Mars and the Wardenclyffe tower was actually his attempt to "phone home".  After all, Tesla did claim to have received radio signals from Mars...

PW

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.10, 00:10:48
Claiming Tesla was an alien from the planet Venus surely qualifies as an "extraordinary claim".

I down loaded the FBI Files on Tesla... Its all right there in a Certified Govt File from the FBI... I dont consider it extraordinary but some might

try not to say any more til you've googled it and proved it to yourself.

edit... https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.10, 02:14:06
I down loaded the FBI Files on Tesla... Its all right there in a Certified Govt File from the FBI... I dont consider it extraordinary but some might

try not to say any more til you've googled it and proved it to yourself.

edit... https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla

That's it?  That is your proof Tesla was from Venus?

An obscure group of people claiming to be in communication with spaceships (and where is that evidence) using what they claim is Tesla radio technology (again, where is that evidence) claim they were told by space beings that Tesla was from Venus.   

That is not proof, that is merely a third party claim, with no evidence provided to back it up.

This you will believe.  However, 200 years of science, complete with contemporaneous notes, papers, lectures, and patents leading up to the "age of silicon" is, according to you, all fake.

If Tesla was from Venus, it is a shame his Venusian parents did not share with him some of the really cool technology they must have possessed to fly their spaceships.  Compared to that, all of his achievements seem rather mundane.

PW

This you will believe.  However, 200 years of science, complete with contemporaneous notes, papers, lectures, and patents leading up to the "age of silicon" is, according to you, all fake.


I am glad you realize the monumental Task to upwise humanity that I have undertaken.


As to the rest of your insecurities I believe I already wrote the answer
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4558.0

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.10, 04:53:48
If Tesla was from Venus, it is a shame his Venusian parents did not share with him some of the really cool technology they must have possessed to fly their spaceships. 

...and survive the heat, acids and pressure there.  The material science alone would be worth a fortune.

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.10, 06:23:55

I am glad you realize the monumental Task to upwise humanity that I have undertaken.

If by "upwise" you mean to prove that 200 years of verifiable scientific history leading us to the age of silicon and modern electronics is all fake, that would indeed be a monumental task.

So tell us, what do you believe happens when two transistors are placed in series?

I would think that many here familiar with electronics would like to hear your answer...

PW

Indeed - a monumental task, especially without experiments to the contrary.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.10, 06:38:50
...and survive the heat, acids and pressure there.  The material science alone would be worth a fortune.

   And, that red color lens used previously really made up for all the other things that they have lied to us about space the moon and Mars. Didn't it? So go ahead, trust NASA... They are so scientific... And the FBI to let us in on all of Tesla's work, tests, and results.

   NickZ

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.10, 07:14:24
If by "upwise" you mean to prove that 200 years of verifiable scientific history leading us to the age of silicon and modern electronics is all fake, that would indeed be a monumental task.

So tell us, what do you believe happens when two transistors are placed in series?

I would think that many here familiar with electronics would like to hear your answer...

PW

   I can tell you what won't happen,  no free energy.
   Of course Merlyn won't show that, nor the wizard, nor show any other free energy device. But wants to educate people to believe him, without proof.
  He did not respond to the Samsung device, and won't show anything here, either, I would bet. So???
The reason being that they have nothing to show. Or they would not need to write long unrelated essays, about their vast updated knowledge, instead, of showing what works.
   Same with Wesley. So, I call their bluff...
 
    NickZ

   

Na a crystal is just a high Q narrow pass filter nothing else.

Me thinks they been watching too much SG1 scifi with all that stuff
in the gate controler boxes and Ship controler boxes C.C

Sil

Quote from: Chet K on 2023.12.09, 14:46:15
Sir,
and with that mindset
Now you are posting in administrator Merlyn's board ...

One note
All posters must follow terms of service and "power and creed" ( guidelines for OU claims)
We cannot make a mess of our hosts life ( by writing things which can cause legal or other issues here)
Or just make a mess of forum ( been a dicey trip last few years)

And yes the theme here is open source FE research and experiments
 
" closed source" hasn't worked very well for our planets future .

@Chet

Sir,
I have re-read terms of service (guidelines).  O0

Open source FE perhaps time for expectations to change.

There is too large a gap b/w those who found FE and those who just want a free ride.

and r willing to do absolutely no work to change understanding or thinking.

There must be compromise and a meeting (at least) part way from both sides towards common ground.

You worry about Planet Earth pollution, but understand completely that we have

HUMAN RELATIONS POLLUTION far worse

and no amount of technology or Free Energy will fix this human pollution preventing us from relating to one another properly.
we must be willing to change our THINKING.

Cheers,wlw

Sir
I suppose our host will have a look here this coming week
The original reason for a builders board , is too share a build idea or path towards a build

A claim was made about a laser gain mechanism utilizing a crystal ( "prepared" crystal)
Seems that might still be doable ( it is on this end)
Hopefully that can help to break the ice .( please advise if offer has been rescinded)

Regarding humanity and playing god by denying access?
Not really in my frame of reference ( I perceive it as homicide to deny help to those who will perish for lack of technology (which I would withhold )

Yes I have heard it all ...mostly from persons who are not suffering the consequences to their lives (withholding this tech )

One step at a time ..
Respectfully
Chet K

MerLynn

Having read your "Crystal laser test.pdf" document, I have questions regarding how the phototransistors were utilized. 

Although no schematic is given, it seems that the collector/emitter voltage was being measured using a multimeter.  I was unable to find a data sheet for a Z3235 phototransistor, however, most phototransistors have a temp and current dependent CE saturation voltage of around .4 volts, which is suspiciously close to all the measurements given.  Perhaps the phototransistor was not biased properly (or not biased at all).

The measurements given should have been the CE current through the phototransistor, not the CE voltage across the phototransistor (although the CE voltage can be used as a proxy for CE current with a proper collector resistor and supply voltage).  The phototransistor used should be selected to have low dark current and good linearity over the luminance range to be measured.  The applied luminance should never drive the PT beyond its linear operating range.

There are several other technical issues (beam diameter, PT die size, PT reflectance/alignment, etc) related to measuring the intensity of these laser beams, but addressing how the phototransistors were utilized in circuit is a good first step.


And again, please tell us what you think happens when two transistors are connected in series.

PW   

Crystals, like everything else Vibrate. Anyone not understand this point yet? Or are we stuck on 'energy, frequency and spin'?
To add "Electricity" to every component in the circuit, is EXCITING or adding more Vibrations or Charging up the Circuit from its ambient natural frequency of Vibrational signatures. This includes Crystals or crystal like components.

Everything 'modulates' or changes 'frequency' when adding the Vibrations we call 'electricity'. Each metal, crystal or compound or insulator modulates battery or DC vibrations. Used as 'directed' in Electronic Circuits, they exhibit a Gain in vibrations and why wouldnt they, all we are doing is adding more Vibrations. Think of it as a pond of water and throwing a 2nd stone to amplify the Wave pattern of the first stone thrown. The Size of the Pond, its component 'elemental' vibration and size of the Stones all bear upon the outcome of the new wave form. The 'Transistor' increases the vibrations in a Circuit when DC activates the Circuit. They call this Gain. So a crystal is also used as part of an AMPLIFICATION process.

what happens when they are Joined together in series or even parallel, but NOT wired according to 'instructions' should have been added for more clarity.
I wasnt there for this experiment. So its an extraordinary claim. Forum rules it seems. Thats why I asked if anyone else thinks outside the box.

And now we know the Mechanism for Gain. The Cubical Quad Antenna, from back in ham radio days (morse was a bitch) uses similar principles for Gain in Antenna wave form propagation. Posidea used a Crystal Gain Antenna for Scalar Wave Propagation. A little bit in and more out but shrouded in mystery as Gain..... but in what exactly they dont know or more precisely hide.

The Gain from a Tube Valve requires heat to Increase the vibrations of the components of the Valve for this "gain" to be used in amplification. We gotta wait for the valves to warm up first back in the old days. Vibrations people. Elemental Vibrations are where Energy and frequency is derived from. Crystal Technology is Alchemy of Fire added to Earth or an Earth Fire Battery. For comparison, Nickle Cadmium is an earth/earth battery. Others may not see it that way.

I note that in some modern interpretations, They have changed it to Energy, Frequency and Sound Vibrations... further removing one from the Truth.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.10, 07:25:09
Indeed - a monumental task, especially without experiments to the contrary.

Have you watched any of my Videos?
Did you actually understand the Silver Generator literally transmutes the water into "silver" and posted with component pictures for replication?
Its ability to reveal the MEMORY of sewerage in water.
Any research into the Aqua Chi Water Module Technology, No probably not. The many experiments that these two devices and the results they would yield on plants or water tests for the 'proof' you require has all but escaped your attention.

Given your last post on the samsung thread.... please kindly refrain from further baseless accusations.

I will eventually get to more of these experiments of Aether Energy you can play with. Try to lift your game.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.10, 12:51:38

   I can tell you what won't happen,  no free energy.
   Of course Merlyn won't show that, nor the wizard, nor show any other free energy device. But wants to educate people to believe him, without proof.
  He did not respond to the Samsung device, and won't show anything here, either, I would bet. So???
The reason being that they have nothing to show. Or they would not need to write long unrelated essays, about their vast updated knowledge, instead, of showing what works.
   
    NickZ

Nick. Correct there is no free energy. The costs involved to make it keep it that way.  What Actually do you mean? What Kind of Energy are you looking for? I specialize in unlimited Healing Energy.

SHOW? Either you didnt watch the videos or you dismiss them. But SHOW I DID. I particularly like the water into FREE OIL or at least pennies a gallon cheap oil energy. I can but conclude no proof will suffice for you. Please refrain from further posting or shift your focus please.

The Samsung device told you what to buy, how to wire it up, why it needed Ballast/battery
And that the orientation of the Magnets were critical with the video evidence that the Magnetic orientation is critical.
Instead all I got in return were nay sayers and my several observations on different days dismissed.
I tried to give the principles of the JoeCell for replications but was asked to leave.
In the Magnetic Cell of LENR I give the Principle of Magnet Orientation for the Samsung Motor completing the IP required for you to be an INVENTOR rather than a spectator.
I have a Life. I have been preoccupied with other projects. Most of them are now completed and when I return... its all gone. deleted. poof.
 

How is this https://rumble.com/vhodfb-full-unedited-version-of-oil-from-water..html
not showing how it works?

How is this https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4
Not showing the Principle of how it works

In your physics indoctrination, these things cant be happening and as such, for you, no proof will suffice to the contrary.

Merlynn,

So, apparently, you won't be telling us what you think happens when two transistors are connected in series.  OK...

Having read your posts, I have to ask, what is your level of expertise in the field of electronics?

Can you describe how a BJT connected as a simple common emitter circuit operates?  Can you tell us how we achieve "gain" in that circuit and how we measure it?  Not with all your talk of vibrations, but as is currently understood in the field of electronics.

It would seem to me, that before anyone can tell us our current understanding of electronics is incorrect, they must first know what that current understanding is. 

Again, having read your posts, it appears that you do not really understand how we achieve gain with a transistor or a simple thermionic triode.  As well, it appears that you do not understand the concept of antenna gain.

Please clarify the above if my impressions are incorrect.

Regarding the pdf doc attached to your OP in this thread, can you tell us how the phototransistor was connected while performing your laser measurements?  I have a feeling you thought a phototransistor produced an output voltage related to luminance (somewhat like a solar cell) instead of understanding it actually varies its current (not voltage) with luminance.

Again, please clarify if my impression is incorrect.

PW

picowatt

QuoteAnd again, please tell us what you think happens when two transistors are connected in series.

The two transistor problem is a good example of how even most experts can fail to understand relatively simple concepts.

Many strange devices often used counterintuitive setups like weird coils, backwards diodes, series transistors etc. I developed a two transistor switch to solve a specific problem before I knew others had also used this setup and the solution seemed pretty obvious at the time.

You see one switch has a specific cut in/cut off and rise/fall time or delay. Take the 2N222A transistor with a 25ns rise/60ns fall time which limits the switching time period. However if we use two transistors and offset the rise/fall the actual series switching time period can have any value even sub ns.

Switch A        on..........off
Switch B                on..........off
switch time period     ..

The problem is many confuse the frequency and time period. The frequency is the cycles per second and the time period is the duration of the disturbance or on/off cycle. I thought my two transistor solution was funny because all my EE friends thought it does nothing. They couldn't seem to get it into there head that there could be an offset between the two switching cycles producing an independent switching cycle between them. It's so simple and obvious after the fact but apparently not before. So we need to be careful about what we think were seeing and making assumptions.

AC

Quote from: Chet K on 2023.12.08, 15:13:35
Sir
Here a bench has always been a path towards an experiment ,
an open source experiment.


Respectfully
Chet K

Why does Verpies have a "Bench" that he self spams in?

Chet, I know you mean well. 

My BUILDS, My video Evidence, absolutely every post is based upon Magnetic Science. Not Particle science.

I spent millions (one way or another about 9) bringing a Field Science, Aether Energy Healing device and gave it to the world. The aquachifootbath.com  (and he wont even sell me parts at a discount.) Its an amazing product and will be discussed soon and how it can do many other free energy experiments and particle science defying transmutations.

It works so well, in what its singular marketing angle states, that it spawned a 100 $Million IONIC (Fake science) copy footbath industry, dwarfing our Field Science sales of over 50 million and counting.

People didnt like to pay for R&D to make this safe and effective (haha) and instead reversed engineered the Ionic footbaths where they use only 2 'electrodes' where Ours used 6 and a Neutral Plate. Comparisons show Ionic baths KILL Life not heal. Yet the scam continues re Ions rather than Fields because there is no magnetics within the atomic structure. Water doesnt have Memory and the FDA exists to approve toxic medicines as an Industry. The CDC is a private company to give medical advice. Its a scam and still is.

Understand Marcy Purnell earned a PhD on this device. You dont get one of these without it DOING something. Thats a feather in my Cherokee Shaman Wizards Hat that no one here can match.

So the greatest healing device since Atlantis or at least since the Baghdad Batteries was buried by, you know, particle science and ions.

This is what happens when you GIVE AWAY something that not only shouldnt exist, is then not even considered Valuable. When in fact its PRICELESS for those it CURED, me included. I literally spent a fortune on doing my own research in Health Care.
So I shall continue to Give it away, by SHOWING First the Mechanism of how they operate. Otherwise history will repeat as the task of Upwising is pretty monumental.

What you have dealt with in the past is misguided conspiracy theorists running with the latest 'you wont believe.....'

This submission or Bench is unlike anything you have ever dealt with before and represents 5 decades of investigating and proving Magnetic Theories. WLW is privy to most of this History and experiments and has procured many components to replicate my presentations. He presents from a Russellian perspective, while I present from Joes magnetic perspective. They are identical when the magnifying glass is applied.

When I posted about the Quad Grid of the Aether and the Tetrahedron of the Atomic Structure and how these 'fit together'. WLW finds the hand drawn diagram of where Russell drew this.

Cut me some slack please. More experiments are coming as per bench rules. Monumental journeys are taken one small step at a time.

@MerLynn
I really appreciate your posts and I am looking forward to learn new things..
I hope you will keep posting and will not be discouraged.

Andy

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
Having read your posts, I have to ask, what is your level of expertise in the field of electronics?

Don't be silly. Electronics runs on magic smoke, not particles. If it escapes, then everything stops working. All wizards know that.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
Can you describe how a BJT connected as a simple common emitter circuit operates? 
Can you tell us how we achieve "gain" in that circuit and how we measure it?

How dare you impose your book-thumping ways and ask pointed questions about a transistor?
The mainstream electronic science has clouded your judgement.  You need to break through the indoctrination and start thinking outside of the box. Can't you see that a transistor is a crystal of silicon. Crystals tap into the sea of aether that surrounds us and amplify everything with its infinite energy.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
Not with all your talk of vibrations, but as is currently understood in the field of electronics.

It cannot be explained without the vibrations because there can be no resonance without vibrations.
Q: Vibrations of what, you may ask?  A: Vibrations of the crystal lattice that taps the omnipresent aether field.
Your electronic books hide these simple facts from you.  Regurgitating them will never lead you to overunity.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
It would seem to me, that before anyone can tell us our current understanding of electronics is incorrect, they must first know what that current understanding is. 

The current understanding of electronics relies on artificial constructs like electrons and other charge carriers which don't really exist because Tesla never detected them. In his many patents he did not need to mention electrons even once to explain what is going on.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
Again, having read your posts, it appears that you do not really understand how we achieve gain with a transistor or a simple thermionic triode.

The transistor modulates the flow of the aether through vibrations of its crystal lattice, thus creating a gain and the diode allows the aether to flow only one way because in the reverse direction it encounters an out-of phase vibrations of the cathode which cause destructive interference and cancel the flow.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
As well, it appears that you do not understand the concept of antenna gain.

Antennas tap the vibrations of the aether - not the transmitter ...and that is why they do not create a power draw on the transmitter.  It does not matter whether the antenna is close or far away from the transmitter - the transmitter never feels the presence of the antennas.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
Regarding the pdf doc attached to your OP in this thread, can you tell us how the phototransistor was connected while performing your laser measurements?  I have a feeling you thought a phototransistor produced an output voltage related to luminance (somewhat like a solar cell) instead of understanding it actually varies its current (not voltage) with luminance.

Yes, the voltage generated by the naked transistor is proportional to the illuminance of that transistor and independent of the light's wavelength because the stronger the light the higher the amplitude of the silicon crystal vibrations that gate the aether flow. The more transistors you have surrounding the light source, the higher the total voltage is and the higher the energy received because energy is proportional to the square of the sum of voltages when the load (R) is constant as illustrated by the well-known formula P=V²/R

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.11, 02:05:23
Again, please clarify if my impression is incorrect.

Your impressions are very incorrect because they are based on outdated scientific principles like particles (electrons) and you should be thinking in terms of frequency of magnetic energy vibrations, which are based on the matrix structure of the aether and where the Life Sustaining Energy comes from and its modulation by the vibrating tetrahedral crystal lattices.

All the experiments meticulously analyzed and performed in this thread are a clear evidence of the above.
The footbath, too.

   Merlyn:
   What kind of energy am I looking for, you asked?  You mentioned that free energy is expensive to produce. That does not answer the question.
  I am looking for energy from the ambient as was mentioned by Tesla, not energy from fuel, be it water or any other material substances.
  Do you have anything working, such as a self running energy producing device, from the ambient, or not?
  Simple question. Yes or no, would be a good start, at this point. You were invited here for that purpose.
This is a thread for the purpose of producing the above mentioned energy producing device, from crystal technologies not other unrelated topics or distractions.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.11, 14:54:12
   Merlyn:
   What kind of energy am I looking for, you asked?  You mentioned that free energy is expensive to produce. That does not answer the question.
  I am looking for energy from the ambient as was mentioned by Tesla, not energy from fuel, be it water or any other material substances.
  Do you have anything working, such as a self running energy producing device, from the ambient, or not?
  Simple question. Yes or no, would be a good start, at this point. You were invited here for that purpose.
This is a thread for the purpose of producing the above mentioned energy producing device, from crystal technologies not other unrelated topics or distractions.

   NickZ

You can do better than this Nick... I said energy has a cost to produce making it NOT FREE ... not 'expensive'. Semantics yes, but its a premise for further debate and depends on being quoted correctly.


"energy from the 'ambient' isnt the same as energy from the 'aether'.  You want North Pole energies from the Aether not south pole energies from the physical environment or 'ambient Fields'. You want Cold Fusion Energies. This is the Only energy Joe plays with. All his devices are Cold to the touch. Every one of his inventions are 'over unity' from the Aether'. I will get to a Unified Field Science explanation of Aether or Scalar in due course, but a limited discourse can be found at LENR Forum. Until the Aether is understood from Tesla's way of thinking, it cannot be made 'mechanically' like John Keely said. This OU forum is ENTIRELY about MECHANICAL over unity which is different from Aether or Scalar Radiant over unity energy.

NO electrical Circuit anywhere on this forum, uses "Aether' or NON HERTZIAN energy, No component in any electrical circuit on this forum is ''subject to" Aether energy (directly). Non Hertzian Energy does not have VIBRATIONS. It is "SIMILAR" to Flatline DC from a 'battery'. In Fact it takes a Battery in the Generating Circuit to Excite the Field being Generated before it becomes 'self sustaining' or BREEDING as they called it in JoeCell replications.

All this has been done without any understandings of any electrical component. Joe made a 'Doubler Circuit'. He would not let me examine it in any way other than a quick look at the mini 'circuit' inside. He knew I didnt know what I was looking at. It was the size of a deck of cards. Made by the Guy who tested waters and products from a JoeCell, like oil and coal at the Local Southern Cross Uni in Lismore for 30 years. Because of his KNOWING of the Level of science and explosive nature of the revelations this science can bring with 30 years of providing 'reports' on tests, he abides by Joe's secrecy wishes. He built several of the Joe Designed Doubler Cells. One AA battery doubled a couple times will run a house for a day or 2 maybe forever. This is unsubstantiated of course. But Ive seen it. I can reverse engineer it but I know nothing of these electrical components where as Joe merely picks up a diode or transistor and knows EVERYTHING about what it can do because "God tells me what I need to know when I need to Know it" says Joe. and then he builds a doubler. What is he 'doubleing' or Gaining? (rhetorical)

Eventually this crystal discourse will show that we really know nothing about the components and functions of a Crystal especially when described with Electrons. which means that to understand Conventional electronics will confuse Minds as to what else they can do.  Are we there yet?

@ Nick
Do you have anything working, such as a self running energy producing device, from the ambient, or not?

I have 3 JoeCells in a Hand Bath. Each 'Cell' is a Cold Fusion Cell and each one of them would run a 'car' like was tried to replicate as they are permanently wired for Cold Fusion with a North Pole Neutral Centre.
I have an In Line Magnetic JoeCell like described in my other thread. Its larger at 8 inches in Diameter for treating 60,000 gallons an hour.
These magical Cells Use energy from the Aether to make water Pure and Heal humans. They are Priceless so I made a 'trade' with Joe for them.

The Samsung Motor rested on a trolley in his shed so was moveable and no power cords etc. It sat there for demo purposes for many years and was demo'd many many times. Then the Flood came and with it the pickers who lifted everything he owned. A JoeCell will make a Water Cell battery 10,000 times better than Pons and Fishyman. Its output is Aether energy via the same wires that DC was applied to to activate the Neutral Centre for this energy to flow. When I dismantle a washing machine to get a Tesla Designed 3 phase Motor all hell breaks, well all heaven breaks loose in my house and life. Joe is the Key Master. I'm the Gate and Record Keeper. Yes I will meet you at the Brisbane Terminal and taxi 2 hrs to meet Joe. But like 1000's before you, you MAY not believe what you see. The indoctrination is just too strong. Too good to be true reigns supreme amongst the audience in Joe's world. Dont expect to come and learn how it works. You do that HERE. I am allowed to Teach.

The one "Cell" that wasnt stolen after the floods, was a Vacuum Cell. the size of a standard 'candle'. This he will happily show you the difference that Aether Energy has. He had a 2 foot square plywood board with about 8 'light bulbs' wired in a typical circular circuit. Attached to the circuit was a standard car bulb brake light to act as a Coil in the circular circuit. You connect a car battery to this circuit and all the lights came on, Attach the Vacuum Cell and all the lights came on, except when one disconnected the Cell the Lights stayed on forever. He got the "idea" to TRAP ELECTRONS in a circuit from Gerard Morin on youtube.

This can be easily demo'd if you want to go to the only place on planet earth to see Aetheric Scalar Non Hertzian energy like produced by the Dendrah so called 'light bulb'. Think of the ramifications this has.... A Water cell would do this too.

If you dont understand the Aether Energy at work in the Magnetic In Line Cell, or even a water 'tube' JoeCell, you arent ready for Scalar energy production. It appears you want to jump to jet propulsion with bicycle methodology. I thought I could change that with the samsung motor thread. Monumental Patience is our words for the day. 

Do you mean this thing ?

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/SChapt20.html

It might say it's not very practical to build but unless you can get your hands on tube as listed
very few will bother unless it's available in kit form and then does it give more back
and again unless you know all the tricks you end up with incorrectly put together
useless monstrosity  ;D oops sorry to say.

PS Merlyn a fictional character of Geoffrey of Monmouth a monk from the dark ages!

Merlyn wore a special Tiara like crown with 4 'nodes' points embedded with fire crystals. Without it he had little Radiant energy

@nick
What was the metal that Tesla used in his "Tesla Coil" and no Tesla didnt use 'copper'. The use of copper in circuitry 'lessens' any 'electrical effect' so if you want to invent like Tesla you have some research to do.

History is Bunk. I knew a guy we called him Horus. He had access to the Akashic records much 'better' than Cayce did. He could tell you your every lifetime and everything you did in THIS lifetime. Horus went to work for MI6 after he left high school. All the 'remote viewers' combined dont hold a candle to what Horus could do. Horus reads as I type it and he's a 1000 miles away. Joe sees your entire life as a movie the second he lays eyes on you. Both these guys grilled me intensely about my 'past' and lessons on how I can remember 'them' in a better format that them holy men from the east. Another Guy we call Mr T had even better abilities for reading the vibrations imparted in anything and around anything. I could go on and on about this subject but you people are stuck on stupid to be quite frank. Drinking Charged Water made with Platinum induces Instant Lucid dreaming and if you know what that means, you know there's a whole lot more.
Dannion Brinkley got his powers by becoming a Lightning Shaman being struck twice. His book Saved by the Light tells lots. He needed to shake your hand to read your Life Story. One can duplicate this Lightning Frequency to activate latent 'abilities' in the Human Bio Field if you know the right guy to make such a Cell. In Peru, one isnt considered a Lightning Shaman until struck 3 times to fully active this hidden talent. And apparently there is such a shaman alive today in Peru.

Please... stop with the bull. You are sheetting up the thread. I have conspiracy theories Humans havent even dreamed of yet. Im Trying to be as real as i can given the esoteric nature of what I know.

again @ Nick. How could I admit to owning, using, having some Zero Point Cold Fusion device? NO ONE outside Military R&D has one and they WILL keep it that way. You think I want to post 'evidence' of such a thing existing? Did you not learn anything how many deaths/disappearances  are associated with this Technology. ALL I can do is tell you how to build one. if that isnt enough then leave and that goes for Verpies and his spam nature even on his own bench. I just had Joe grill me for 2 hours on the phone because he KNOWS every word I write as I write it and I am MerLynn. Not some other spelling.

sheesh end of rant

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.12.12, 06:42:12
Do you mean this thing ?

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/SChapt20.html

It might say it's practical to build but unless you can get your hands on tube as listed
very few will bother unless it's available in kit form and then does it give more back
and again unless you know all the tricks you end up with incorrectly put together
useless monstrosity  ;D oops sorry to say.

PS Merlyn a fictional character of Geoffrey of Monmouth a monk from the dark ages!

That Link will see you fail. the info is SO WRONG I dont know where to begin. And Joe prefers me to not start.
Its extremely simple to build. but the Construction methodology is beyond everyone unless instructed by Joe or I. Like the Silver Generator. Field Science means everything has a magnetic Pole and they all must be aligned. Joes sees the North Pole end of any piece of Stainless Steel, so for him its easy.
The Operating IP on how to connect the Battery is more Critical than you can imagine. I am allowed to discuss this Cell construction. But was asked to leave in  the JoeCell Thread... simply amazing the open minds I have to work with here.

If you consider it a monstrosity then there's nothing here for you, the exit is that away. Its 10,000 times better than any other Cold Fusion attempt made anywhere else in the world. But its only for those with eyes to see it.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.12, 10:21:07
It is spelled "Merlin" and he was King Arthur's mystic.
Geoffrey's depiction of Merlin is below:

He wasn't English it's with a 'y' in wales  ;D

Colin Morgan as Merlin Left with  Arthur on Right
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1199099/mediaviewer/rm2068169728/

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.12, 09:00:42
That Link will see you fail. the info is SO WRONG I dont know where to begin. And Joe prefers me to not start.
Its extremely simple to build. but the Construction methodology is beyond everyone unless instructed by Joe or I. Like the Silver Generator. Field Science means everything has a magnetic Pole and they all must be aligned. Joes sees the North Pole end of any piece of Stainless Steel, so for him its easy.
The Operating IP on how to connect the Battery is more Critical than you can imagine. I am allowed to discuss this Cell construction. But was asked to leave in  the JoeCell Thread... simply amazing the open minds I have to work with here.

If you consider it a monstrosity then there's nothing here for you, the exit is that away. Its 10,000 times better than any other Cold Fusion attempt made anywhere else in the world. But its only for those with eyes to see it.

Hsve you got a pointer hyper link to the build information of the working device you can show ?

Sil

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.11, 23:43:28
...
The Samsung Motor rested on a trolley in his shed so was moveable and no power cords etc. It sat there for demo purposes for many years and was demo'd many many times.
...
Joe is the Key Master. I'm the Gate and Record Keeper. Yes I will meet you at the Brisbane Terminal and taxi 2 hrs to meet Joe. But like 1000's before you, you MAY not believe what you see. The indoctrination is just too strong. Too good to be true reigns supreme amongst the audience in Joe's world. Dont expect to come and learn how it works. You do that HERE. I am allowed to Teach.
...
If you dont understand the Aether Energy at work in the Magnetic In Line Cell, or even a water 'tube' JoeCell, you arent ready for Scalar energy production. It appears you want to jump to jet propulsion with bicycle methodology. I thought I could change that with the samsung motor thread. Monumental Patience is our words for the day.

Bold applied to the quote text by me.

MerLynn,

Here is the topic dedicated solely to your efforts on the Samsung motor generator.
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4554.0

There is nothing stopping you from continuing your Samsung work there. If you are concerned about having moderator control of the thread you are welcome to move or copy it to your own bench. I would delete it from my bench if you did.

I'm sure many people would welcome a coherent and cogent discourse on the subject.

Regards
Cadman

@cadman
Thankyou for restoring the thread cadman.
I will see what Spirit advises.

In Celtic the Masculine is Lynn and the Feminine is Lynnette

Mer is a Title denoting Rank or Origin.
I was the Cook manning the forge or 'kitchen' 24/7 for the 9 months we took to make Excalibur.
The the sword then went on to make History 2 generations later when the grandsons DNA Frequency was able to vibrate it enough to pull it. History is Bunk.

Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023.12.12, 12:06:03
Hsve you got a pointer hyper link to the build information of the working device you can show ?

Sil

That will get a thread all on its own. From events on this forum, it appears no one likes me to add what I know to their thread.
Its why I asked for a bench.
I have in other forums given the basics but no where is there a manual I would recommend.

The "here and now" works for most,
As already mentioned we have members in your part of the world ,( very close
Nothing quite as good as "eyes on" first hand experiences !

Please keep that in mind.
Also verbal communication is always preferred here (when doing projects such
As this .
Respectfully
Chet

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.12, 08:47:20
...
What was the metal that Tesla used in his "Tesla Coil" and no Tesla didnt use 'copper'. The use of copper in circuitry 'lessens' any 'electrical effect' so if you want to invent like Tesla you have some research to do.

Is this question in reference to what type of wire Tesla used?

Please enlighten us...

PW

Quote from: Allcanadian on 2023.12.11, 02:24:41
You see one switch has a specific cut in/cut off and rise/fall time or delay. Take the 2N222A transistor with a 25ns rise/60ns fall time which limits the switching time period. However if we use two transistors and offset the rise/fall the actual series switching time period can have any value even sub ns.

Switch A        on..........off
Switch B                on..........off
switch time period     ..

AC,

I was hoping MerLynn would answer the question regarding his "two transistors in series" mystery, but it seems his posts are to be moreso like faith based preaching where direct questions to him will remain unanswered.

There are lots of useful application where transistors are used in series.  I use them frequently, mainly with regard to analog applications (cascodes, current sources, long tailed pairs, analog switches, complimentary pairs, etc).

However, in this "two transistors in series" circuit you propose, assuming the emitter of A is connected to the collector of B, there can be no BE current in A (to turn on A) if B is turned off.  Although B will have some leakage current and IO capacitance that could allow some degree of BE current to flow in A when B is off, it is doubtful if either if these will allow meaningful BE current to flow in A when B is off.  One could imagine some sort of isolated drive between A's BE junction to provide base current in A (while B is off), but with no collector current flowing in A during that time, the BE junction will saturate and you will then have to deal with the very long storage time (225ns) when A is turned off.  But, let's say you have worked this all out (perhaps post your schematic...) using an isolated BE drive or some other method to allow BE current to flow in A when B is off and perhaps the use of a Baker clamp to deal with storage time, etc, the best you can hope for is a 25ns risetime and 60ns fall time (and this is not including the additional 10ns delay time inherent in this transistor).

Your "sketch" is misleading in that each instance of the word "on" represents a 25ns rise time, and each instance of the word "off" represents a 60ns fall time.  No matter how you time or overlap the words "on" and "off" in your sketch, those are the the fastest switching times you can achieve.  Any attempt to switch faster than that will not allow either A or B to turn on completely.

PW

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.12, 08:47:20
...
What was the metal that Tesla used in his "Tesla Coil" and no Tesla didnt use 'copper'. The use of copper in circuitry 'lessens' any 'electrical effect' so if you want to invent like Tesla you have some research to do.
...

MerLynn,

Thought I would give this a bump so you would be sure to see it...


Is this question in reference to what type of wire Tesla used?

Please enlighten us...


If you do not believe he used copper wire, do you have any evidence of references to support your claim?

PW

hello picowatt

QuoteYour "sketch" is misleading in that each instance of the word "on" represents a 25ns rise time, and each instance of the word "off" represents a 60ns fall time.  No matter how you time or overlap the words "on" and "off" in your sketch, those are the the fastest switching times you can achieve.  Any attempt to switch faster than that will not allow either A or B to turn on completely.

Think of two mechanical relays A and B. Suppose it takes X time for A to open and close and the same for B. With a large enough offset in the timing of A and B we could catch relay A as it was just about to close and B was just about to open. The reason the conduction current can have any value down to nanoseconds is because the offset determines the conduction time period. Think of it from the opposite perspective, if A closed before B opened then nothing would happen. Now back the offset up a bit until A is about to close and B is about to open. The difference is variable, ergo it can have any value. Key concept... any value. Imagine that, a simple pair of relays or spark gaps or any switching mechanism could compete with the most advanced switching electronics trying to produce nanosecond impulses.

The goal is to understand this mechanical concept and then try to replace it with an electronic one. It does not matter how you do it only that you do.

QuoteHowever, in this "two transistors in series" circuit you propose, assuming the emitter of A is connected to the collector of B, there can be no BE current in A (to turn on A) if B is turned off.  Although B will have some leakage current and IO capacitance that could allow some degree of BE current to flow in A when B is off, it is doubtful if either if these will allow meaningful BE current to flow in A when B is off. 

In effect this is really no different that a common ground problem in my opinion. You suppose that the common collector/emitter connection between transistor A and B is an issue and you explained it pretty well. Of course it is and that's why the problem is so much fun. Now we get to imagine the hundreds of ways in which we could work around said problem. Said imagining opens up new possibilities and new understanding ergo learning.

I solved these electronic problems years ago and there of little interest now. I was only trying to add to MerLynn's idea that two switches displaced in distance thus there time frame could do something of interest. I really like MerLynn's posts, not because I believe them but because they make me think. In this respect they have succeeded, well done.

AC

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.13, 04:35:48
MerLynn,

Is this question in reference to what type of wire Tesla used?


If you do not believe he used copper wire, do you have any evidence of references to support your claim?

PW

Tesla did not use copper wires. That is the Claim yes. For me to provide the 'answer' will create much unwarranted debate.
But if this info can still be found by others when given more clues in this discovery science lesson, perhaps it will open many eyes.
I will say this about what is know about 'history' of Tesla...

Tesla was all about 'free energy' but actually it was about broadcasting it as WIRELESS. This term originated with Tesla and Electricity not RADIO. Its manufacture from Aether was kind of a 'hidden' part of Wardenclyffe.

Westinghouse wanted meters, for obvious reasons. Westinghouse then faked impending bankruptcy and conned Tesla to tear up the Royalty contracts.

Tesla's AC was merely Vibrating Circuits. No way to charge for Vibrations. Unless you use COPPER at the end user.
Overhead power lines have a steel core surrounded by many Aluminium cores.
Metals have 'Properties' and other 'conductiveness' when it comes to Vibrations. This is a given.
Without going into each metal (I will in another thread about using unknown properties of metals for experiments) Copper is a Metal that has an INHIBITING Factor in the conduction of Vibrations. It easily generates 'heat'. But this isnt heat related. Copper lessens or de-tunes the vibrations ever so slightly. Plastics stop all vibrations or absorbs vibrations but still lets the Magnetic FIELD through. (Edit) AN Insulator is the extreme opposite of Conducting vibrations. (Something I type it wrong)

So if our Home is wired with a 'Lessening" material, while the Transmission lines are made with an 'amplifying' material, there is a DIFFERENCE IN the Vibrations that a METER can register and Westinghouse can charge for. Once Westinghouse got this out of Tesla, he didnt need him anymore. And burnt down his Lab.
By promoting 'electrons' as electricity, people fell for this CON JOB and are continuing to pay to this day for 'something' that isnt there.
AND copper mines can now be purchased to control what everyone invents forever and can never compete with Tesla's science again.

So to prove me write or rong, what metal did Tesla use in His Wires when making his many Coils and Motors?

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.13, 05:33:24
Tesla did not use copper wires. That is the Claim yes. For me to provide the 'answer' will create much unwarranted debate.

In Tesla's Colorado Springs notes, he makes specific references to the use of copper wires (both in Colorado and New York).  All his "wire gauge versus length" resistance calculations match modern annealed copper wire to within a very small fraction of a percent.

This evidence is readily available.  Where is yours?

Quote
Tesla was all about 'free energy' but actually it was about broadcasting it as WIRELESS. This term originated with Tesla and Electricity not RADIO. Its manufacture from Aether was kind of a 'hidden' part of Wardenclyffe.

There is no contemporaneous evidence (lectures, patents, notes, demonstrations) that indicates Tesla was able to tap into some unexplained energy source (i.e., manufacture it from the Aether).  His radiant energy patent is the closest thing to "free energy" and for that he gets partial credit for discovering the atmospheric gradient and the photoelectric effect.

Tesla did a lot of things that were considered quite amazing in his time, but all of his works from those times are rather mundane and well understood today.  The man was definitely a creative genius, but many people have made claims in his name that are simply not supported by available evidence.

His name is often bandied about as if invoking it helps support someone's otherwise unsupported claims...

PW

@pico
You can have it your way. You win I lose.. Youre better than me I must admit...
Take it or leave it. I dont care.
We will believe NASA and real Adreno-Vampies dont run the world because the internet says so.  (Edit... add)... When History is being erased in front of our very eyes by it.
Copper kills life. Used as an IUD it kills sperm. Just a penny will do it. Its not so much EMF as it is A Copper FIELD of Energy you live in. It makes minds sick too. Has all kinds of ANTI BIOTIC properties. If he was forced to use copper because of his backers that may be the case. Again without photo proof of the ACTUAL MOTOR its all words for the umteenth time. (edit) Or tell me where I can go and inspect it. For a man shrouded in such mystery they had to Invent dumbeinstein because you cant have ENERGY    is vibrations      Equals MCsquared. So we spend 100 years deebating the Mass instead of the Alchemy of Metallurgy. Me thinks you missed the point wanting to prove me wrong. But the truth is out there. It will surface after the Awakening. I see the dogma is strong within you. So dam sure you are educated enuf...

Try to work with me... you'll learn more. like the Meters.... the copper... the aluminium... its such a Drag, this magnetic Science.


edits adds.

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.13, 06:47:31
...

Try to work with me... you'll learn more. like the Meters.... the copper... the aluminium... its such a Drag, this magnetic Science.

You make that "work with me" part rather difficult...

Your posts are the first I can remember on this forum where all sorts of claims are allowed to be made with absolutely no evidence to back them up.  Reincarnations, MI6 operations, and all manner of assorted conspiracy theories littered with a heap of science denial.  I have never seen the like on this forum.

Much of what you say requires "faith" to believe because we have no way of verifying the claim that is made.  How can we verify a past life or top secret MI6 info?  We must just have faith that it is all true...

You make claims of small devices that can power a house or transmute water, and yet again, their is no way to verify these claims.  No rigorous measurement data or credible third party replication data are provided.  We are expected to just believe it.  Just have faith...

What the reader can do is fact check any claim you make where real evidence is available to support or falsify that claim.

We know that Tesla used copper in Colorado and New York because we have his contemporaneous notes wherein he states he did in his own words.

Most of your post not quoted here regarding copper is just word salad that has nothing to do with whether Tesla used copper wire or not.   

If a person makes claims that can't be proven, that require "faith" to believe, while also making claims that can be readily proven to be false, it begins to wear away at that person's credibility.
   
Science is not faith based...

PW

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.13, 07:38:50

Science is not faith based...

PW

Very correct. Science is only question everything, believe nothing until one has proved it to ones self. Then you know more about this word Faith.

Youve done a very good job of questioning a lot of my sources of information. Excellent I couldnt do better myself. Player may enter the ring.

And sorry for not forth coming with the written reports for the Video evidence.

In this video https://rumble.com/vhrdlh-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh..html

The Cell used is the one used for the Report by independent fact checkers as is the 'electric' Cell was the one used to make oil. They do a lot of stuff.

Attached is Mt Carrington report on Acid Mine Wastes treated with variations of this Cell Technology.

It took us 5 years to get this report as its the same with the other reports I have, No one wants to sign their name to these Fantastic Results. Too good to be true.... even for you.

I see you dont have a bench. I dont have time to read your posts. What have you achieved in the last 8 years on this forum? found the elusive over unity yet? You need a new approach. A new way of looking at things. Like Tesla did. if your point is true, then I'd say at some time the wires produced for telegraph changed to copper and that was all that was available given who owned the wire companies. They stole all the info they needed and made sure it didnt change. No one KNOWS the truth. No one has a monopoly on the truth. To BAN any source of info because there's no proof to fit your paradigm shouldnt be how it works on a private bench. Designed for only those who are interested. Critics are welcome to learn. Critics should not call for censorship. It stopped other forums in there quest for new knowledge of the olde ways.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.13, 03:22:13
Is this question in reference to what type of wire Tesla used?

Please enlighten us...

PW

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.13, 05:33:24
Tesla did not use copper wires. That is the Claim yes. For me to provide the 'answer' will create much unwarranted debate.
But if this info can still be found by others when given more clues in this discovery science lesson, perhaps it will open many eyes.
I will say this about what is know about 'history' of Tesla...

Since this bit got my attention too.. :)

Nobody is stopping you from making Tesla coil from iron wires then have it on video recording. With all wave inside wave frequency modulations testing, creating longitudinal waves, wireless energy transmition,etc.
Then instead of just empty arguments we could have constructive discussion.

P.S> For background information, in one of N. Tesla patents - https://patents.google.com/patent/US381970A/en "use a core, A, which is closed upon itselfthat is to say, of an annular cylindrical or equivalent form--and as the eflicicncy of the apparatus is largely increased by the subdi vision of this core I make it of thin strips, plates, or wires of soft iron electrically insulated as far as practicable."
British Patent 24,421 (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/british-patent-24421-improvements-systems-transmission-electrical-energy-and-apparatus-use-therein) - Improvements in Systems for the Transmission of Electrical Energy and Apparatus for Use Therein "The transformers, as actually constructed are, in reality, nothing more than this. For example, starting on a spool or roll of hard rubber which may contain a central core of iron wires or strands, an insulated wire is wound until a coil is built up of the desired length. This coil is built up precisely as any other, the wire being wound around the core or spool until its convolutions fill up the space and form one complete layer. The winding is continued in the same way until another layer is formed and so on."

Cheers!

hi

Tesla also wrote that if one does not 'vacuum seal with beeswax' capacitors and coils etc. then results like his would just not be achieved.

my 2 cents.

Cheers,
wlw

@T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8vnHVV25tU

Bedini says an iron coil is backwards to a copper coil. Meaning to get North at one end and South at the other you connect + & - reverse to a copper coil.
This also means the field collapse is reversed.  O0

Leedskalnin made currents with iron coil and no core needed this way.

Cheers,
wlw

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.13, 20:52:57

Bedini says an iron coil is backwards to a copper coil. Meaning
Cheers,
wlw

this distraction of Magnetic and para-magnetic to materials is by design
This distraction of Alkaline and Acidic to the Magnetic Polarity of Liquids (or whatever) is by design
Copper is a 'South Pole' metal and Iron is a 'North Pole' Metal. Together they make a Battery.

What do we need in Scalar Non Hertzian Aetheric energy manifestation? North Pole Fields being activated.

I note that in T1000's attachment, the AIR becomes the conductor of Electricity negating wires as in Wireless.

I cant answer my own questions, you wont learn anything that way. Everything I say is just noise to some here.


ANY reference to the word "longitudinal waves" in reference to Tesla Work is a distraction by design. Fake science in real terms.

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.13, 10:35:35
It took us 5 years to get this report as its the same with the other reports I have, No one wants to sign their name to these Fantastic Results. Too good to be true.... even for you.

Are these results indeed "fantastic"?  Probably not...

The use of electrolysis to remove dissolved solids from water has been well studied and put into commercial applications for some time.  A search using the word electrolysis in concert with the likes of "sludge, wastewater, process water, electrochemical reactor, etc" will provide a wealth of information on the subject.  Electrolysis converts dissolved solids into precipitates and gases and can be used to dewater sludge and process wastewater.  It is used by some municipalities as an alternative to chemical flocculants during wastewater treatment.

Saltwater chlorination of swimming pools similarly uses electrolysis to convert dissolved NaCl into free chlorine.  In this application, best efforts are made to prevent precipitates (via controlled salt concentration and water chemistry) because at specific power levels, dissolved solids will precipitate and form a slimy deposit on pool walls.

The point is, electrolysis has been well studied for some time with regard to removing dissolved solids.  The electrochemical shifts and processes involved are fully explained using our present understanding of science.  No hidden magic or voodoo is required for those explanations.

And then there is the Joe cell for which all manner of scientifically extraordinary claims have been made over the years.  Are we surprised that a Joe cell (an electrolyzer) removes dissolved solids as in your attached PDF report?  Not really, as discussed above, the process has been known for some time.  Is there something magical or scientifically extraordinary regarding the operation of a Joe cell that causes it to perform better than a standard or purpose built electrolyzer when used in a similar application?  We do not know.  A rigorous study or comparison is typically not performed or allowed by the inventor.

Even with regard to the production of HHO, Joe cell's are claimed to output large amounts of gas compared to "standard" electrolyzers.  Yet, where are the results of a rigorous (scientific, third party, etc) study comparing the Joe cell to a standard electrolyzer under similar conditions?

It is often the case that when someone attempts to replicate a Joe cell that results in performance no better than a "standard" electrolyzer, the replicator is told they did not do something "magical" correctly.  You did not precondition your cell properly or you must have some sort of faith or meditative state to allow it to vibrate and perform correctly, etc.

What is never provided is a rigorous and scientific comparison to prove the Joe cell performs any better than a standard or purpose built electrolyzer in a similar application.

PW       

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 01:02:40
The use of electrolysis

Even with regard to the production of HHO, Joe cell's are claimed to output large amounts of gas compared to "standard" electrolyzers. 

What is never provided is a rigorous and scientific comparison to prove the Joe cell performs any better than a standard or purpose built electrolyzer in a similar application.

PW     

Electrolysis is only 2 electrodes. This is not electrolysis because the Neutral Plates produce more bubbles than the 2 'electrified' plates. This might be beyond your comprehension. Or you need to get out more. Even Browns Gas has NO neutral Plates. Thats what makes the JoeCell Unique and FANTASTIC beyond your wildest dreams. This JoeCell is a device that changes the Memory of Water permanently. Salt into fresh. Water into Oil... a Permanent change with Zero By-Products. I bet you would need to see it done a dozen times to 'get it'.

In this Video we show the 2 Polarities of the Charged Gas made by just reversing the electrodes.... No One else on the planet can make IMPLOSIVE gas in any format you care to build. Dan Winters saw this enough times to start a website on Implosion technologies... No one can duplicate this. It is Unique and you will Never understand it with the closed Mindset you display.
https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4

what I provided was..... is a rigorous and scientific comparison....  of Advanced forms of this technology.  I met Mike McRae Williams the day he finally delivered this report to Joe.
These guys travel all over Australia and know every method on the Planet to clean up waste. You placed no importance on the decades of Industrial research and solutions. Instead wanting MORE reports. Its never enough with you guys.

Charlie Spiers took back to Melbourne Uni 16 samples of water for testing. Charlie was the Head of Earth Resources for the Victorian Gov't and Head of Implementing Carbon Credits for the Govt. He came back twice because he couldnt get his head around where the salt went, You see.  Charlie and Joe went down to the Ocean and collected 1000 litres of High Tide sea water. They came back and ran it through the same Cell used in that Carrington Report (Joe has MANY variations of this Cell) Salt water in and Pure Fresh water out.  Charlie came back a second time because he couldnt get his "Mind around where the salt went" Charlie wont ever provide the reports from the Uni. He would NOT sign his name to any report. But yet he still wanted to know. You on the other hand just want more reports.

It was enough for Mike and his company but in the report it does say why this didnt go ahead.

This isnt the only example of these sort of tests. The Brisbane sewerage works couldnt believe shit could turn into drinking water which Joe Drinks EVERY TIME.

Nor could the Brisbane Uni when we transmuted a Honey like TAR liquid into fresh water that the Head of R&D SANTOS Metagasco also drank as it exited the Cell.

No for you Pico, nothing will ever awaken your mind. Asleeple you will remain

This vid
https://rumble.com/vhrm63-magnetic-in-line-joecell-restructuring-ocean-sea-water-into-fresh.-2nd-came.html
is me videoing Rebecca who is videoing a presentation to take back to the USA which is the video I posted earlier.

Now Rebecca visited Joe several times and even brought with her a PhD Chemist with his own water testing kit leaving Nothing to chance.
He would NOT provide a written report either.

I really dont need to read your skepticism but without it others will never learn there IS NEW MAGNETIC TECHNOLOGY out there. Not the same ole same ole shitty 2 electroded methodology from the Modern Physicists of today.

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.14, 02:39:14

In this Video we show the 2 Polarities of the Charged Gas made by just reversing the electrodes.... No One else on the planet can make IMPLOSIVE gas in any format you care to build. Dan Winters saw this enough times to start a website on Implosion technologies... No one can duplicate this. It is Unique and you will Never understand it with the closed Mindset you display.
https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4

Apparently, you watch this video and believe it shows something happening that is unexplainable by everyday science.  And because of this, alternate "pseudoscience" type theories must be conjured to explain its operation.  You see something amazing, almost magical, to marvel at.

However, an electrochemist would watch this video and right off the top of his head think of several metal ion related electrochemical reactions that could inhibit the production of oxygen when the cell is connected with one polarity applied, and not inhibit the oxygen when the cell polarity is reversed (looks like oxy is inhibited in the first part of the video).  The electrochemist would see nothing unusual or extraordinary.

Science deniers rarely know much about the science they deny...

PW   

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 03:58:13
Apparently, you watch this video

PW   

In actual fact. I am the cameraman and they are my family. This was done the next day after Charlie Spiers had left. He saw it too.
So having seen this Implosion Demo of Compression energy or North Pole cold fusion energies, as a rough guess over a 100 times. Just never got around to making a video that is presentable with real people in the actual environment these discoveries were made.

The Cell used for this Implosion and the Opposite and equal Action of heat burn expansion, has been used many times as a Teaching Cell.
I did the course, my son did the course, and several others. Peter Stevens the man who made Joe Famous and started the ball rolling by borrowing the first cell and showing others, never saw or knew any of this. Peter feigned finding god after visiting the Walter Russell Science Centre.

This is the First Lesson of Operation. once you build it and want to put water into it the first time. literally hooking up the electrodes and .....
Now Joes does each of these steps and then its your turn. You repeat exactly what he does.
1. Each component as it's assembled is 'sparked' with a battery to remove Memory but we also need to wash it out under plain tap water or Liquid Electricity and Ones Bio Field Become One. You know that Y factor? Well here you can learn about it.
2. Fill it up from the tap. Understanding water source differences based upon Earth Charged Frequencies like those at the top of a mountain spring that have hydrologists scratching there heads in silence comes as Lesson 2. Primary Water. Definitely a pseudo science because if it was real it would be fake news.
3. return cell back to 'insulated cradle' or a bucket.
4. Make sure the battery is Charged and connect using an alligator clip the Negative Electrode from the Battery to the centre tube and then the positive to the outer Cylinder and WATCH. People have spent HOURS watching bubble this way. Some do it for WEEKS and MONTHS. Some see bubbles and some dont. My son didnt get bubbles. Then Joe gets bubbles and Son tries again and no bubbles. Then you ask the universe for help and it replies Ask and ye shall receive bubbles. It then Bubbles. I not only didnt get bubbles the first time but the Battery had ZERO spark when arcing the terminals. I, in an instant, flattened the battery. Im good. So Joe said fix it. The ole coil between the battery terminals trick. I had flattened one side of the battery. more here https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4549.msg109595;topicseen#msg109595
5. We repeat this changing places as many times as it takes for pico to get it.
Now Your Spirit has learned how to program a JoeCell in a Mental Universe said Hermes. A Water Dowser operates exactly the same way.

I believe you deny having critical thinking skills. But I could be wrong

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 03:58:13
Science deniers rarely know much about the science they deny...

That phrase is a keeper!

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 01:02:40
The use of electrolysis to remove dissolved solids from water has been well studied and put into commercial applications for some time.  A search using the word electrolysis in concert with the likes of "sludge, wastewater, process water, electrochemical reactor, etc" will provide a wealth of information on the subject.  Electrolysis converts dissolved solids into precipitates and gases and can be used to dewater sludge and process wastewater.  It is used by some municipalities as an alternative to chemical flocculants during wastewater treatment.

My municipality uses this method to precipitate contaminants in waste water.

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 01:02:40
What is never provided is a rigorous and scientific comparison to prove the Joe cell performs any better than a standard or purpose built electrolyzer in a similar application. 

Indeed but that is not surprising - the concept of rigor is alien to loose minds and gardeners.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.14, 06:32:48
My municipality uses this method to precipitate contaminants in waste water.
We dont have any precipitate so no its the same method... try again



Indeed but that is not surprising - the concept of rigor is alien to loose minds and gardeners.
the concept of comprehension is beyond some too. There is no "drop out' with 4 ring magnets and 2 washers over a pipe even with raw sewerage. If it will go through a foot valve it comes out as Water. Charlie Speirs "I cant get my mind around where the salt went"
The "electric Tube cell" does have drop out. But our drop out unlike yours, will NOT re-dissolve back into ANY water. Again a New Methodology to make real inert fertilizer instead of grey water back into the drinking water for the SilverJoe Silver generator Cell to release it as Memory.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.14, 06:20:16
That phrase is a keeper!

My science is better than your science
Yours pollutes the Planet and Mine cleans it up.

North Pole Cleans and South Pole Dirties or Rusts.

place a piece of Iron between two North poles and the iron becomes Rustless or stainless. Dont ask how to do it now so you will fail and come back with proof and then I give you the instructions because you are hard headed now will Ya?
My Magnetic Science is better than your furnace Science for stainless steel. Sorta like free energy. An equal effect at a Penny of the price.
Now go prove it to yourself and if you need instructions Ask and all will be revealed. As long as you change your attitude Im sure it will work

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.14, 07:05:04
As long as you change your attitude I'm sure it will work

An attitude-dependent experiment, WTF ?!
Looks like you are setting up the stage for my attitude as a reason for the failure of the experiment.

As You think so it will be
We create our own reality

Player 2 leaves The Ring

   Player #3 is wondering what all this discussion has to do with free energy from crystals...
And, just how much energy can a Joecell or crystals provide?

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.14, 13:43:01
   Player #3 is wondering what all this discussion has to do with free energy from crystals...
And, just how much energy can a Joecell or crystals provide?

   NickZ

a Samsung or Smartdrive motor/generator 'JoeCell' can output 2500W+ from a 'flat' battery input (small battery, only 7A-hr.)

but understand you can't measure this power with meters, you can only USE it.

once running, it's self-sustaining just like the Human body is self-sustaining.
ALL this discussion is necessary because nobody on this forum understands what electricity actually IS !!!
yet we want it for FREE, this thing we don't comprehend ???

Cheers,
wlw

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.14, 13:43:01
Player #3 is wondering what all this discussion has to do with free energy from crystals...

Good question.

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.14, 14:49:55
a Samsung or Smartdrive motor/generator 'JoeCell' can output 2500W+ from a 'flat' battery input (small battery, only 7A-hr.)

Cheers,
wlw

Does this battery have Corrugated plates by any chance?

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.14, 14:49:55
a Samsung or Smartdrive motor/generator 'JoeCell' can output 2500W+ from a 'flat' battery input (small battery, only 7A-hr.)

For how long?

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.14, 14:49:55
but understand you can't measure this power with meters, you can only USE it.

Can it be used to power a 2500W electric resistive space heater ?

(https://medias.netatmo.com/content/445594a1-48b6-4452-8ef8-5e450964e761.jpg)

Quote from: whitelightningwizard on 2023.12.14, 14:49:55
...
a Samsung or Smartdrive motor/generator 'JoeCell' can output 2500W+ from a 'flat' battery input (small battery, only 7A-hr.)

but understand you can't measure this power with meters, you can only USE it.  once running, it's self-sustaining...

Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?  How do you know it outputs 2500W if you can't measure it?

PW

Note :
Designation as potential "replicator" ( player ??)
Requires a dog in the hunt ..
There are several who are inline to replicate,
requires actual "crystal",and I suspect "claimants" ( MerLynn)
Approval ( meets his criteria for a successful replication )

Steps down that path are in the works ( might take a few days or a week to coordinate ( in OZ)
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Possibly "Samsung " replication falls into same category (OZ)
PPS
EDIT for picowatt comment below
Yes all measurement protocols are always part of replicator discussions.

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.14, 13:43:01
   Player #3 is wondering what all this discussion has to do with free energy from crystals...

Indeed...

The title of this thread and its original post is related to a claim that when a laser beam is split into multiple beams using a "special crystal", the sum of the measured "power" of those multiple beams is greater than the "power" measured from the original beam.  In other words, a claim of overunity (more power out than in), presumably due to the "special" crystal.

A pdf document was attached to the OP that provided some details as to how measurements were performed and their results.

The document states that a phototransistor was used as a measurement sensor.  I could not find a data sheet for the phototransistor specified (If anyone else can find a data sheet for the Z3235 specified in the pdf doc, please post a link...).

There is no mention of any power source or bias method utilized with the phototransistor.  Additionally, the measurements provided were given as a voltage instead of current.

If the Z3235 is indeed a phototransistor (or photodiode), it is possible that the claimant, not understanding how to use a phototransitor, merely measured the voltage between the phototransistor's terminals.  If this is the case, the data provided is meaningless and the original claim would therefore be unsupported by the evidence provided.

Claimant was questioned about this possibility and was asked to provide additional information regarding how the phototransistor was utilized during the performance of his experiments.

Many posts later, these questions remain unanswered...

PW   

   Thanks PW:
   It would be more convincing if he were to show something working, input and output readings etc .., but I guess that is too much to ask. But, will it self run??? The only proof that we need to see... Not more measurement errors or split laser beams on special crystals, that do no actual useful work. Or just provide MAs worth of power, as proof.
I asked about the output, and what it can do.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2023.12.14, 13:43:01
   Player #3 is wondering what all this discussion has to do with free energy from crystals...
And, just how much energy can a Joecell or crystals provide?

   NickZ

This discussion diverged from Crystals into some basic Aetheric Science. Which is required for "some" crystal over unity energy devices.
And is a must for the JoeCell energy production.

This energy output is measured in terms of Load it can provide. We had 3 induction Cook Tops at 2000 watts each and it easily heated up 2 but the third shut it down. So it could be said the load were our measuring devices and provided the answer. This was in relation to the Vacuum Cell.

The Samsung at 100 rpm ran 3 x 150 watt work lights and 2 bench grinder motors. Spinning it faster just burned everything out.

The Crystals are 1000x and then some, times over unity.

A JoeCell, if made as a Cold Fusion Battery would be 1000x easily
How much 'power' does it take to desalinate a 1000 litres of Sea water? If the Magnetic Cell does it in an instant (and this subject needs expanding and clarification)  then its Kilowatt hour output is in the Millions.

Quote from: Grumage on 2023.12.14, 15:10:06
Does this battery have Corrugated plates by any chance?

Some where I gave the Alchemy of Batteries on this site.
A quick recap.
A Water JoeCell is the Alchemy of adding Fire to Water.  (electricity is Fire)
The Alchemy of a NiCad battery is adding Earth to Earth
The Alchemy of a car battery is adding Water to Earth
The Alchemy of the Samsung motor is adding Fire to Fire. (rotating magnetic Fields interacting)

The actual Alchemy of a Battery is defined as Two Elemental Frequencies in a shared 'medium'.
And there are only 4 Elemental States of Matter. With a 5th Element , the Aether or Quintessence as the State of Matter (Prima Matter) That Binds them all together, as another way to say it. Russell says it as "without the Universal Mind there is no creation" or thereabouts

This is the science that built everything in stone. This is Hermes Trismegistus Laws of the Universe science. This is Aristotle's Science. This is Democratis's ATOM science, This is Thales Everything is Water Science and Life is in Everything Science. This is Walter Russell science, This is Tesla Science. This is JoeCell Science.
This isnt some Mythical electron science.

Tesla spoke about PRESSURE in the Circuit from T1000.  Russell calls it Expansion. Joe and I call it South Pole Positive Heat or Ex-plosion energies. Joe and I tell it in the TERMS that you will PLAY with it in a Lab. Russell is very much Theoretical in Nature. And the others have been relegated into Mythology. And NO ONE to this day knows anything about how Tesla thought about it.

The Highly educated contemporaries of Tesla didnt understand the term PRESSURE in the Circuit. Undefinable.... more in the Realms of Non Physical. So LITERALLY they invented the Particle 'electron' to explain Tesla's "electricity".
Tesla Said in effect Energy is Vibration.
So they Invented Einstein to counter this with Energy is related to mass and speed.
Youse all have been lied to for so long you cant reverse any device on this forum because your Science is FAKE.
And this relates to How crystals function in YOUR circuits


No corrugated plates.

Quote from: verpies on 2023.12.14, 15:12:39
For how long? FOREVER
Can it be used to power a 2500W electric resistive space heater ?
Works on Hot Plates and Standard 240VAC motors, Incandescent and LED light bulbs

(https://medias.netatmo.com/content/445594a1-48b6-4452-8ef8-5e450964e761.jpg)

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 15:58:58
Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?  How do you know it outputs 2500W if you can't measure it?

PW

Again, Our evidence is available to show you anytime.

Again. We are't going to invite the black hats to come and take us away.

We measure it by Load for the umteenth time. How many hot plates boiling water will it run.
We literally had a rack of 100 light bulbs and needed more Load and so added hotplates because this is what we had laying around. We build everything from junk and left over scrap or what we have on hand.

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.14, 20:37:05
Again, Our evidence is available to show you anytime.

Do you have a video of what that demonstration would look like?

Are measurements allowed?

PW

Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.14, 16:47:15
Indeed...

The title of this thread and its original post is related to a claim that when a laser beam is split into multiple beams using a "special crystal", the sum of the measured "power" of those multiple beams is greater than the "power" measured from the original beam.  In other words, a claim of overunity (more power out than in), presumably due to the "special" crystal.

Correct.

A pdf document was attached to the OP that provided some details as to how measurements were performed and their results.

Correct. Each Inventor will then make their own device and then have their own ORIGINAL IP.

The document states that a phototransistor was used as a measurement sensor.  I could not find a data sheet for the phototransistor specified (If anyone else can find a data sheet for the Z3235 specified in the pdf doc, please post a link...).

Attached is a Picture of a 'Watch" made of Pure Silver and Gold Inlays with Platinum Rings inside filled with Charged Water powered with the Solar Diodes as used in the crystal laser doc. To make a kind of mini Precious metal JoeCell Energizer for the Human Body that one wears instead of placing hands or body in a JoeCell for Bio Electric Field Enhancement similar to the Aquachifootbath.com  We made 11 of them. When I showed one to Joe, he picked it up and all he hairs on his arm stood up and he said, finally you've made something I like.

There is no mention of any power source or bias method utilized with the phototransistor.  Additionally, the measurements provided were given as a voltage instead of current.

Once this 'application' of lasers and crystals is understood, Its a pandoras box. Its obtuse for a reason.

If the Z3235 is indeed a phototransistor (or photodiode), it is possible that the claimant, not understanding how to use a phototransitor, merely measured the voltage between the phototransistor's terminals.  If this is the case, the data provided is meaningless and the original claim would therefore be unsupported by the evidence provided.

Claimant was questioned about this possibility and was asked to provide additional information regarding how the phototransistor was utilized during the performance of his experiments.

Many posts later, these questions remain unanswered... 
True, we got side tracked on transistors as a way for you to see for yourselves very little is understood about the Crystal in a Transistor and everything happens for a reason. So to understand crystal over unity first we need to know ALL there is to know about a crystal. (we arent there yet) I can teach you how to do it but any evidence I provide is a noose around my neck and like that hard head verpies and Desal by Magnetics, the controversy and failure to understand anything about what a Magnet is, comes into play much less comprehend what is being said or watched on VIDEO EVIDENCE, followed up BY an independent fact checkers Report,... YOU WONT UNDERSTAND without a basics of magnetic Science.  The Special Crystal. I would have thought I'd have to answer more on this subject before this. You can end you life with one of these. I dont want that on my Karmic Consciousness. Its available but not for attitudes like verpies so no its not 'public yet'. Privately, yes but according to how this info is received in these threads.

PW   

Player advances one step.

Just a post to bring some points made in other threads relevant to this one.

The distraction of Magnetic and para-magnetic to materials is by design To Hide the true Nature of magnetism or the Magnetic Bias of 'elements'.
The distraction of Alkaline and Acidic to the Magnetic Polarity of Liquids (or whatever) is by design so you dont understand Magnetic BIAS of the GASES or LIQUIDS as evidenced in this Video.....  https://rumble.com/vh7v87-im-plosions-and-ex-plosions-demo.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=4
Copper is a 'South Pole' metal and Iron is a 'North Pole' Metal. Together they make a Battery.

Our words have confused our thoughts because there is no Magnetism in the Atom Structure of PARTICLE theory but there is Para-magnetism in the practical applications of this particle theory....  We call this Dissociative Cognizance





WATCH Joe de-pole neodymium magnets with HIS HANDS... in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM3x2z5Twno
towards the end around 8 minute mark.

Joe works with Ferrite Magnets. Neodymium is NOT magnetic. Its a Static Catalyst to enhance the Field Effect of Iron. Just Like Chromium added to iron is a Catalyst to INHIBIT the Field effect of Iron as in Non Residual Magnetic Stainless Steel. So it dont rust just like iron being conditioned with a Pure North Pole Energy as a washer between two SAME North Pole FERRITE Ring magnets.




Allen from Philosophy.org gave me a 'pen' that could detect the North Pole Field of any magnet with a light indicator. He wanted me to give it to JoeCell as a present.

So on my next visit, I handed it to Joe and he said to keep it cause he didnt need it. But its a present Joe.

So Joe picked up a magnet and used the pen and every time he held it to the magnet's N it either lite up and the next time didnt light up North Pole. He did this repeatedly to prove his point.
Joe can Flip the poles by Touch.
In another demo he took to magnets and holding them close together for a second the Field Just Collapsed in each magnet leaving a couple lumps of ferrite. Then doing the reverse they became magnetic again.

Magnets are not what they say they are.
Back to the drawing board.

Many have seen Joe flip the Polarity of the Battery in the car making the 'spark' to the spark plug the wrong polarity and no matter how you crank the engine over it will not start.

In another demo, the battery was flat from the lights being left on. To start the car a COIL was placed between the 2 terminals of the Battery so the Other Side of the Battery was now active and in an second of turning the key,. the engine started. Batteries also arent what you think they are.

Understanding these two NON PHYSICAL Phenomena will upwise humans immensely.

Posted by MerLynn:

Quote
Solar Diodes as used in the crystal laser doc

So, now you are claiming you did not use a "Z3235 phototransistor" as was stated in the "crystal laser test.pdf"?

I think its time to consider "pulling the plug" on this entire thread...

PW

Semantics, colloquially speaking, as similar I could have said anything. I interrupted my Call to Papers for Steve at Tesla Tech to write that post and such errors occur.

On that Note I would rather you never posted again on this Bench. you are not here to learn but to find fault with the 'explanation or terminology' NOT the Science.
Any error is enough for you it seems, so consider yourself out of the game.
Your skepticism is no longer needed in this discourse.

Any non relevant post by you will be deleted if this attitude persists. You couldve just asked for clarification but no, you went for the juggler

Quote from: MerLynn on 2023.12.15, 02:04:15
Semantics, colloquially speaking, as similar I could have said anything. I interrupted my Call to Papers for Steve at Tesla Tech to write that post and such errors occur.

So what was used?  A "phototransistor" or a "solar cell"?

It is not semantics, they are completely different devices with different operating characteristics.

I have repeatedly asked how the phototransistors were utilized during the cited tests and you have repeatedly ignored those questions.  If you can't answer the questions, or don't know how a phototransistor should be used in a circuit, man up and just say so...

PW

Did receive a note from TinselKoala on this part number
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Those guys...
Z3235 is not a phototransistor
It is an IR emitter LED
940 nm, blue diffused package, GaAs crystal
Like all LEDs it can respond like a photodetector when stimulated by the proper wavelength
Perhaps this is where the confusion exists

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Z3235:
Vf 1.2V @ 20mA If
5mm diffuse blue package
About 2 USD per each
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Did receive a note from TinselKoala on this part number
Quote
Those guys...
Z3235 is not a phototransistor
It is an IR emitter LED
940 nm, blue diffused package, GaAs crystal
Like all LEDs it can respond like a photodetector when stimulated by the proper wavelength
Perhaps this is where the confusion exists

Additional quote

Z3235:
Vf 1.2V @ 20mA If
5mm diffuse blue package
About 2 USD per each
End quote


Patience is a virtue

@pico
It matters naught the numbers dont match. Things always happen for a reason.
Takes a wizard to understand these "works in mysterious ways".
Crystals arent for everyone.
We did the experiment, We got the results.
It wasnt the only one. It was a R&D Company.
If its the wrong one for the job, pick another one. Surely by now you can do it better than we did.
I do remember it was the same as we used in the watches.
None of us were qualified electricians and I didnt think to check numbers...
Until you actually do the experiment and clearly its not that difficult.
Will you know the power of an Atlantean Fire Crystal of mythological fame.
Your attitude precludes you from perfecting the Intent of the Experiment and if you succeeded you would own a priceless item.
AND YOU WOULD HAVE INVENTED IT
Man you closed that door of opportunity with such haste.
Now there's NO chance you will try. And I aint spoon feeding you anymore.

And this is a good thing.
This Tech isnt for everyone and certainly not you.
You have tainted the mindset of the forum to be supreme judge of anything you've never heard of before.

So perhaps things in time are mysteriously arranged to shed light 2 decades later.
My UFO encounter at 17 has had a lifetime of synchronicity and prophetic occurrences. Uri Geller claimed his powers came from a close encounter.
Believe what you will,
But believe no more in Crystals as you will never understand them just like diodes and transistors or the very Vibrational energy you so desperately seek and believe you deserve more of than you can earn. This is above your pay grade attitude.
But really congratulations for finding a chink in my Armour. Its still impregnable tho.
And Ive spoken enough of this.

But you did learn and hear things you would never have thought possible to be dreamed up much less the product of 32 years of Research and Development Experiments. Creating a 100 million industry and counting. Where's your runs on the board? Its rhetorical.