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Title: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.09, 03:40:58
This process, which in the past I have called the 'Dual pulse protocol' has garnered my attention. The Companion wave (as it is publicly known) process seems to hold the key to all the devices not using rotors for mechanical BEMF.
Having attained this result in the past and seeing numerous documents explaining this I am going to use this result to hopefully loopback.
I have seen the comp wave result in numerous tests of mine and others. Bibhas De and Spherics both attest to the validity of this with very exacting specifications that matched what I had setup in my test. Spherics warnings matched with what SM had alluded to.

Using the 3 channel phasing controller I built from the good graces of JDO300's design with the SSR boards he also designed I can initialize the controller with a script that setups up the exact parameters I used to acquire the comp wave results. I can acquire this result adhoc by simply turning things on now.
I have a number of coil winds that are suited to perform the comp wave results. I first adhered to a setup by Grumpy and JDO300 using a toilet paper roll. This was safe. The next step was to 'put it in a ring'. I did just that but wound the bifilar zip with spaces to apply inherent cancellation. This is the coil that jacked the household GFIs. I was quite pleased with this adjustment. The comp wave did what I thought it would do and that is affect devices at a distant. Something that Bibhas De has mentioned in his document that Grumpy posted.
Currently I have a voice coil attached. These are the ones posted previously in the 'What is known about the TPU'. I purchased 2. I am low side driving the coil pair with a 200vdc potential and max 200ma using my EC600 electrostatic power supply. The first test was high side driven and when I ran the script my pc froze. On my isolated scope there appears a series of high spikes of 90 to 100v at regular intervals.

The EC600 is one sweet device. When I shut off the channels in the controller software the EC600 senses no load and decouples the input power.
Looking at the software screen the viewer can see the setup parameters of the Spherics parameters from page 19 of the AVEC 1.0 document. The top of the page explicitly mentions voice coils.


I continue on...
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: exnihiloest on 2011.05.09, 10:12:20
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.05.09, 03:40:58
...The Companion wave (as it is publicly known) process seems to hold the key to all the devices not using rotors for mechanical BEMF.
...

Thanks for reminding me about the "companion wave". I read about it some years ago then I forgot it. Even though the bases are very fragile, both theoretically (Bibhas De is considering only empty space with no charge sources, Rho = 0, J = 0) and experimentally (crossed field antennae do not support his theory, they are just shortened antennae radiating classically with only a bit better efficiency due to the radiation of both magnetic and electric fields from the near zone), his way of thinking is interesting. I'll take a look at it again.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.09, 15:48:29
What I have attained in alot of my tests are the very high frequency wave forms appear as bursts, in parts of the base waveforms, or fully across the scope screen. The HF is always 1MGHZ to 20MGHZ. I had been pursuing builds based on coil topology, build and setup configurations, Frequency / pulsing / on-off time, rise and fall times, voltage amperage, biasing, but have always seen the HF. So that is what I am following at this point.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: exnihiloest on 2011.05.10, 10:21:12
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.05.09, 15:48:29
What I have attained in alot of my tests are the very high frequency wave forms appear as bursts, in parts of the base waveforms, or across the fully scope screen. The HF is always 1MGHZ to 20MGHZ. I had been pursuing builds based on coil topology, build and setup configurations, Frequency / pulsing / on-off time, rise and fall times, voltage amperage, biasing, but have always seen the HF. So that is what I am following at this point.

Although I am very interested in antennae and have several TRX, I have not experimented in this field relatively to the "companion wave". I was interested in Bibhas De's viewpoint about the Poynting vector because I have in mind different questions about energy in EM fields, that are not clearly answered by physics.

For example if we have two distant omnidirectional antennae not influencing each other and radiating the same signal, their signals interfere in free space. In some locations the field doubles when their waves are in phase (there, energy is multiplied by 4 because proportional to the square of the amplitude of the field) and in other locations, it is zero (destructive interference). In any case, energy in the whole space is conserved, but there is strange question about the path of the energy. We see that the energy is radiated the same in all directions around each antenna but doesn't arrive in some points, meaning that energy didn't not follow a straight line. The energy is located only where the field is located. Two fields adds, but the energy of two fields don't, the energy of the resultant field is not the sum of the energy of the two field taken separately.
All is happening as if the energy didn't move but would be a potential energy available at any location where there is a field and becoming real when an antenna transforms the field in a HF current. So the idea of an energy flow viewed with a Poynting vector becomes meaningless.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.10, 14:29:03
@Ex
Good point. Maybe we are missing another parameter?
The comp wave can be attained albeit I have seen a small one. If you apply 1million volts to an aluminum plate the plate moves. Comp wave extreme or just a high potential deflection?

QuoteEverything is ether. Elements are a stable pattern in the ether. The oscillation of the ether as a whole allows the patterns to
continue. It provides the energy to keep spherical ether patterns continuing whilst allowing those spherical ether patterns
to also emit ether waves. All elements emit ether waves.
You apply a voltage across a conductor. Ether waves are propagated from both ends at the same time. As they move
through the copper the ether waves that the copper is made from cause further strong waves to move out from copper into
the ether around it, (This is the ether shock wave), whether or not that ether is patterned into the elements of what
constitutes air.
The ether shock wave is NOT the magnetic field. The ether surrounding the copper, could be ether patterned into air, or
ether patterned into insulator, or just ether. This ether interferes, if you like, with the shock wave, and causes subsequent
ether waves to affect the ether waves of the copper. It's a cyclical interaction that settles to a repeatable pattern of
interaction. Once the repeatable pattern is established even though you still have the same voltage across the conductor
the wave from the copper is effectively attentuated and goes into building this repeatable pattern. PART OF the repeatable
pattern is the magnetic field. All these waves are longitudinal.
A SEP coil generates a stable repeating pattern in the ether. Anether shockwave travelling through this pattern causes
this stable repeating pattern to alter. As the shock passes the pattern reverts but in a finite amount of time. If you send out
another ether shock before the pattern reverts completely, and from a different location, you can now manipulate the
pattern, expand the pattern, or cause the pattern to rotate around in space. Even if this pattern does not manifest in a way
that we measure as a magnetic field, it can still interact with copper to produce a current like effect.
The amplitude of the shock ether wave depends on the physical amount of copper the ether waves from both ends of the
copper coil travel through and on the voltage applied across the coil.

You want constant pulse width in time, not percentage duty cycle, across frequencies.
The shock wave comes from the copper. The HV causes the copper to generate the shock wave. + previous answers.
Faster rise time, faster fall time. Time spent at top of pulse should be only large enough to generate a feeble magnetic
field. Straight up, straight down. I'll send a diagram.
To be able to apply the voltage and remove the voltage before the current rises too high requires the highest inductance
possible.

The magnetic component is manipulation of the atoms. The current production is the manipulations of electrons. The companion wave component is the manipulation of either the nucleus or the atomic or subatomic bonds.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: exnihiloest on 2011.05.11, 09:29:07
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.05.10, 14:29:03
@Ex
Good point. Maybe we are missing another parameter?
The comp wave can be attained albeit I have seen a small one. If you apply 1million volts to an aluminum plate the plate moves. Comp wave extreme or just a high potential deflection?

Quote
...
The shock wave comes from the copper. The HV causes the copper to generate the shock wave. + previous answers.
Faster rise time, faster fall time. Time spent at top of pulse should be only large enough to generate a feeble magnetic
field. Straight up, straight down. I'll send a diagram.
To be able to apply the voltage and remove the voltage before the current rises too high requires the highest inductance
possible

I understand that the goal is to create the shock while avoiding a magnetic field. But any accelerated charge radiates EM waves and EM waves carry a magnetic field. The shorter the rise time, the more the acceleration of electrons, the higher the frequencies. Even an single period of a sin signal at Ghz frequencies has a rise time much shorter than that we could obtained from a squared pulse by discharging a HV capacitor in a straight copper conductor. So I'm not convinced we could observe by this mean something else than a burst of classical EM waves.

Quote
The magnetic component is manipulation of the atoms. The current production is the manipulations of electrons. The companion wave component is the manipulation of either the nucleus or the atomic or subatomic bonds.

We must be careful. In particular, relativity explains also magnetism viewed by an observer, as effects of length contraction on moving electrons when there is not for the positive charges which are at rest in the lattice of the conductor, thus an apparent difference of the positive/negative charge density. A magnetic field and an electric field are identical effects viewed from different referentials. Remarkably this is perfectly compatible with Maxwell's equations. So we face two powerful theories saying the same. I think that only very clever experiments could make appear new phenomena at the fringe. I have not much time now but I will reread the papers about the companion wave, may be there is a way.


Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.11, 17:17:11
@EX,
Everything we can see or measure at any given point are merely an after effect or deprication of a previoulsy higher frequency aspect. Advancing our visibility further into the past of the aquisition moment is the goal of science. The moments are always attainable but how do we quantify? Are the tools we have capable of discrete measurements, the fine line between did we measure or are we affected and how do we separate the two?

The fringe, in this case, is the boundary where our tools of matter in this band of existence are placed in such a configuration of use as to allow us to expose the artifacts of the fringe or to see just over the boundary of what we deem as the current reality. Or broadening our scope of acceptance by numerous proofs.

Basically the OU monkeys are playing with handgrenades be they alive or duds.

Following good RF mechanics:
The two coils must be attached to each other as close as possible to the coiling. Having 2 connecting leads from 2 coils connected with alligator clip leads changes the dynamics and depricates the environment for the comp wave production.
Posted is a picture from Wattsup of just this solution and one wire soltuons.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.13, 19:50:54
QuoteMore on Energies in the Electron Vortex

The kinetic energy of the vortex is what remains when the "hole" creating the vortex is closed.   It is equal to mc2 as shown above.   Kinetic energy must be equal to potential energy.   The centrifugal force used to hold the hole open for the vortex to form is mc2/r.   The energy used to open the hole is the same as the potential energy that would erupt were the hole to be closed.   It is (mc2/r)r which is mc2 because energy equals force multiplied by the distance over which it acts.   So we can see that in a nether vortex such as the electron, Ek = Ep = mc2 where Ep is potential energy.

Gravity at the vortex center would be shown by the equation g = c2/2r where "g" is gravity and "r" is the radius at the electron center.
Kp = mgr = m(c2/2r)r = mc2/2.   This is the potential energy of mass or Mass at the electron center prior to a fall to the exact center of the vortex from the vortex periphery.   Note that it is half of the total kinetic and potential energy of the vortex were the hole to close suddenly. This is the potential energy due to gravity.

However, there is also the tangential component of mass or Mass that is moving at velocity "c".   This also has a potential energy that is equal to that due to gravity.   The two potential energies, the one due to gravity and the one due to the tangential component (angular momentum) total the same as the kinetic energy for the vortex (which is mc2).

mc2/2 + mc2/2 = mc2

http://www.softcom.net/users/greebo/vortex.htm (http://www.softcom.net/users/greebo/vortex.htm)
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.15, 04:00:58
Coil is U.S. paper towel roll of 42 turns of bifilar speaker cord. Inductance is <2mh.
Only using single silver run.
Cannot compress the highest spike any less.
Had the EC600 upto 400VDC and smoked the Li-ion battery on the isolated scope. The scope still works.

Test #1
using EC600
100vdc applied
resistor is 430 ohms
Delay is 100ns
Compwave appears.

Test #2
Using EC600
100vdc applied
Resistor is 330 ohms
Delay is  67.20ns
Compwave appears slight sine wave moves from main wave to right of screen like ripple in a pond but back and forth at a speed of 1 sec of the screen distance.
Ringing also appears on input pulses


Test #3
Using Battery for coil supply
12vdc applied
No comp wave at all but large ringing.
Ringing also appears on input pulses

So as I try to apply more current the compwave becomes more difficult to attain or maintain.

I had a setup last year to do this and cannot remember what the driver voltage set up was. My bad.
It seems this setup only works with very low inductance coil. The parameter seems to be any voltage, low current, low inductance.
Another attempt is to bias the unused used bifilar line to setup a magnetic field.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.16, 03:07:51
Apply a 12vdc bias @5ma to secondary. Shortened delay to 33.6ns and digital meters goes to 1.
Put delay at 84ns and meter show 15vdc on a 12vdc RV battery.

Will put ECD600 100vdc through bias coil next.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: exnihiloest on 2011.05.16, 06:31:46

The "companion wave" is a momentum wave. It can be detected only by the mechanical force exerted onto an antenna mounted on a piezoelectric sensor. There is no possibility of direct electric measurement of the source. See §4 http://www.bibhasde.com/veipaper.pdf
The paper dating 1993, I'm afraid the author failed in realizing himself the experiment.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Grumpy on 2011.05.16, 14:07:30
Apply the bias to both wires of the bifilar coil.

When you have several in a circle, you can connect the DC bias, wrap right over the bifilar coil and connect to the next bifilar coils section.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.18, 02:50:25
Added bifilar coupling coil.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.21, 21:03:10
Any low inductance air core winding will do as a compression wave generator.
The pulse protocol specifications are exactly as Spheric stated. I did not change the parameters when swapping to this next coil.
Next I bias this one. It is smaller and fits on the bench.
Then I swap in the paper tube one as a verification.
Then i pull 3 low inductance coils out of inventory and put them in a circle. This exact placement will perform better than Hutchison's random placement.
This has a secondary of high inductance in a 6" Tesla coil like John Hutichson uses.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79.0;attach=5031 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=79.0;attach=5031)

QuoteElectrogravity and mass
There might be a link between Harold Puthoff's Polarized Vacuum (PV) theory, which models
gravitic effects, and the presented scalar field: a bidirectional longitudinal electroscalar wave.
Two superimposed LES waves that travel in opposite direction can result in a standing scalar
field wave. The components of the two opposite LES waves cancel each other, as pointed out by
Tom Bearden. The time derivative of this standing scalar wave is equivalent to a space charge
(see equation (6)), or in other words, a vacuum polarization. This pattern of bidirectional LES
waves (space charge) alters the diëlectric 'constant' of space slightly, which explains the bending
of light (TEM) waves by gravity. Without the exact definition of the LES wave, Tom Bearden's
notion of a 'standing bidirectional scalar wave' cannot be understood at all, and also the
theoretical link with Puthoff's PV theory would not exist. The bidirectional LES wave requires a
'phase lock' of two LES waves in opposite direction. This tuned phase between the bidirectional
LES waves, transmitted by two massive bodies, could be gravity.

The Hutchison effect includes levitation of heavy objects. Hutchison's equipment consists of two
or more tuned Tesla transformers, such that a bidirectional standing scalar S wave might be
induced between the Tesla transformers. The longitudinal electric field might be cancelled by
means of proper tuning of the transformers. The paragraph "Electrodynamical free energy
devices" described that indeed a Tesla transformer can induce observable longitudinal
electroscalar field waves, because of the high voltage high frequency characteristics.

Thermoscalar effects
Solids, fluids or gasses can be heated or cooled by direct thermic conduction or by means of
electromagnetic fields. By definition, a scalar field S can also induce thermic effects in metals or
plasmas, since the longitudinal S force F = qvS accelerates or decelerates charged particles.
Several thermoscalar effects can be described:
The Hutchison effect
Suppose S>0, then positive ions or nuclei are accelerated while negative ions or electrons are
decelerated. For instance, the speed of conduction electrons in metals can be greatly reduced
while the vibration speed of the metal nuclei is slightly increased, since the mass of the nuclei is
much greater than the electron mass. Because of the decelerated conduction electrons (that form
the glue between the metal nuclei) the atomic bonds break, and so the metal melts, distorts,
ruptures, without noticeable rise in temperature. This has been observed by John Hutchison: the
jellification and distortion of metals by an external field, without apparent rise in temperature of
the metal object.
Cold current effect
When S<0, then the positively charged metal lattice atoms are decelerated (cooled down) while
the conduction electrons are accelerated by the longitudinal scalar field force. This could very
well explain the cold current phenomenon where the temperature of conductive medium drops
and at the same time an extra current is observed, since the accelerated electrons diffuse away
from the cold spot into a warmer area with less energetic electrons. Several researchers have
observed this cold current phenomenon, such as Nikola Tesla, Thomas Moray, Edwin Gray and
Floyd Sweet.
Efficient lighting
A gas could also be ionised, or its orbital electrons excited into higher energy states, by means of
a negative S field, since such a field accelerates electrons while the positively charged nuclei are
decellerated. This means that ordinary lamps can emit light without a temperature rise of the
light bulb, so the lamp shines and it does not get hot. Such an effect has been reported by Floyd
Sweet. The energy efficiency of the light bulb is enhanced greatly by means of scalar field
excitation.
And why wouldn't a functioning TPU pull lightning out of the sky? It is just a Tesla coil as a horizontal platform.


This looks like Tariel Kapanadze's Diagram in his explanation of the special capacitance model and magnetic pole placement of Magnacoaster.
QuoteIt does not offer a good explanation for free energy claims that involve permanent magnets,
unless magnets are not just magnets but also sources of scalar fields. Some experimenters
speculate about scalar effects induced by two magnets glued together: north pole agains north
pole, or south pole against south pole
. Then the magnetic fields cancel partially, which might
reveal the presence of a scalar field. Except for a rotational magnetic potential a non-rotational
magnetic potential might be induced by magnets. The secret of the mysterious Sweet magnets
might not be based on magnetism at all: Sweet described the conditioning of the motional
electric field in his essay "Nothing is Something". This means that the Sweet magnets could have
been electrets as well, perhaps showed a permanent cylindrical electrical polarization and
perhaps extra scalar field properties. Then the claimed free energy effect, the observed cooling
effect and the observed reduced-weight effect by Sweet might all be based on electroscalar field
effects.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.22, 04:30:28
3 coils on bottom copper core. Pulsed in parallel. Inductance is a little higher than previous Tesla coil so compwave a little smaller.
Bias is next on Tesla primary.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Grumpy on 2011.05.22, 14:44:11
Did you try a dc bias on the bifilar coil?
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.22, 17:12:46
Using this circuit for coil bias.
Put a 2.2k ohm in the +12vdc RV battery circuit.

Waveform is altered with +12vdc 5ma bias applied.
Next session will increase current of bias.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on 2011.05.23, 18:11:21
With respect to Reply #6:
Thanks for the "one wire solutions" and the *two-wire-Mobius-though-two-coils*.  They're easier than trying to hand-wind a conventional Mobius.

--Lee
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Grumpy on 2011.05.24, 01:23:58
Sweet's magnets were conditioned to produce a diverging/converging magnetic field.    This may make a scalar field more accessible.  Coils pointing inwards also provide this sort of magnetic field.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.26, 03:28:10
Not mine. Thanks to Otto...

Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on 2011.05.23, 18:11:21
With respect to Reply #6:
Thanks for the "one wire solutions" and the *two-wire-Mobius-though-two-coils*.  They're easier than trying to hand-wind a conventional Mobius.

--Lee

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.28, 01:24:36
4 primaries wired in parallel.
4 secondaries wired in series, biased with 2.2k ohm resistor and 12v battery.
Same specs as single primary.
No difference as of yet. Needs more testing.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.05.28, 17:32:50
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.05.22, 04:30:28
3 coils on bottom copper core. Pulsed in parallel. Inductance is a little higher than previous Tesla coil so compwave a little smaller.
Bias is next on Tesla primary.

@GK

I put a closeup of your coil.

Your horizontals seem like you took twin speaker wire wound 2 something turns, in two sets per ring. If this is the case then please consider trying this.

Based on each horizontal loop wire turned 3 times.

L     - 1 - 1 - 1           Top layer three turns
      - 1 - 2                goes to second layer in same direction
      - 2 - 2 - 2 - C      2nd layer three turns then to Common 
C    - 3 - 3 - 3           3rd layer three turns then to Common 
      - 4 - 3                goes to third layer in same direction
      - 4 - 4 - 4 - R      Bottom layer

Put all three rings in parallel and run the whole coil in tandem.

Run L C and R off your audio output.

Put the long verticals in parallel or series as you want the output or keep them all separate for  now to identify their output polarities before you make an output strategy. Tank it and measure as you adjust frequencies on that freg gen program.
Once yo find the right frequency, play with the phasing.

I would say around 11,0000 hertz range but you will quickly find the sweet spot anyways. Then play with the phasing. Don't use those small coils yet.

Keep a nice magnet around to put it near the coils. If you have small neos like what I used in my moving litz wire video, try putting it in the center of the build.

Nice build by the way.

********* Pulsing coils ********

I have a new way of looking at coils and would like to share it with you.
Man if I noticed this years ago, I think it would have saved us so much time.

First of all we all agree that a scope will show the waveform of voltage/current activity or frequency responses at the scope point. OK so take any coil that has a center tap. Pulse one end and scope that end, you will see the response. Put the scope probe on the center tap and you will see half the first response. Now put the probe on the other coil end and you will see NO RESPONSE. On average, half the coil responds, the other half does not. NO matter if the coil is a straight piece of wire, a one turn loop or a 100 mile long wound coil, only half of it will really responds to the pulse. That is because the side that is connected permanently to the coil has already biased the complete coil and upon connection it will simply recede back into its half of the coil when the connection is made. It does not have to respond since it is already at its maximum forward position.

Remember in my pulsing coils videos when I pulsed the toroid coil and placed a Litz wire loop over it to light my LED, the LED would only light at a specific cross section and by moving it slightly off, the LED would not light up. Not knowing this, the loop was either on an active or non-active side of the coil.

If you want to have a strong pulse "reverberate" through 1 complete coil, or a complete Otto mode quadro coiling system, or whatever coiling system, YOU WILL ALWAYS NEED TWO IN SERIES. The pulse enters the first coil and thinks the complete first coil is only half of the total of two coils. So the pulse passes the coil completely. Then you pulse from the second coil side and now the pulse thinks it is only half of the total of two coils and passes it completely. You can have identical coils in series or two different coils in series as long as they are complimentary in inductance.

Telsa did this in the Tesla Ozone Patent. Two coils in series so the primary of the working circuit really was pulsing through out the coil and not only in half the primary coil. The capacitor discharge flys accros the primary and lands inside the coil of high inductance. Almost all the maximum level of the discharge is in the primary. Now I understand Teslas' logic for this.

Just think of the FTPU. Center toroid has two coils. There are two rings. There are two overwound coils. Always two.

The center toroid has two coils in bucking mode. If pulsed from one side, it will have only one of the coils active. So you pulse for one side, then the other side, and so on.  The electronics to do this is above my head but maybe with an H-bridge type, or a simple pulse that splits with knowledge of the coils.

Romero's wheel uses drive coils. Two in series so I know that at least one of them is being used 100%, otherwise you are stuck with 50% of each coil. I know, some will say the 50% of one coil is still 100% of the energy put into it. Yes, but you are better off using a little more energy with two coils and have then each work 100% for the effect. Also with drive coils pushing against magnets, always pulse on the end that starts the wind closest to the core. At least if you have such a single coil that is only 50% active, put the active half nearest the core and if you have to switch the polarity against a magnet, then turn the coil itself and don't just switch the wires.This is where many go wrong. lol

So, to summarize lets look at a simple loop. Remember those???????

When pulsing DC from one end....

1 loop makes half an active loop,
2 loops in parallel but offset 180 degrees will produce two distinct half active loops.
2 loops in series makes 1 active loop,
2 1/4 turns of a loop will make a 1 1/8 loop active loop.

Think of this. If you wind a primary on a toroid core of let's say 10 turns, then continue the wind but off the toroid for another 10 turns. Pulse on the side of the toroid and the pulse will travel accross the complete coil half that is on the toroid.

If our scopes do not lie, then electricity does not travel in a circuit. It just permeates conductors or better still, electricity is two biasing potentials that just have one goal and that is to meet and annihilate each other. This way, both return to the ether where they came from in the first place. You can see it in thunder clouds. The cloud is a loop of negative potential, the ground is a loop of positive potential. When the cloud gets as strong as the already immense ground potential, the spark starts towards the Earth, but the Earth, with a sigh of boredom toward the clouds' tirade, always sends its own spark upwards to meet the clouds' thunder bolt. Always, always and always. Electricity does not travel in one direction. It leaves both battery poles and advances into the circuit to meet at one circuit dependant point, usually somewhere in a coil because the coil has much more inductance then any other component so the chances of meeting there are greater.

One day when someone invents the NEGATIVE DIODE, we will realize this and it will open up a whole new world of electronics. I would call it bi-directional electronics.

I have been spending some major time on looking for things in EE we are doing wrong because from all the efforts, there must be some very slight errors that produce a major lack of effect. Small things, seemingly insignificant things, without the foumulas that are man derived and formulated to fit so well our reality. Look at the effects for what they are in real life, compare these to other natural phenomena to see where we are going wrong in our quest for YES "overunity". So there is definitely more to come AND MORE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND.

So when you plan to pulse a device, think that only half of it will respond.

Now, if you pulse both ends of a coil at inverse on/off, then when one side is on the other is off and there should be nothing going on at all. But if each side is adjusted so that they share a mutual on time that overlaps, that will be the real on time and the coil will now respond in both halves without an outside assistance off an added coil in series. The overlap window is very small. Otherwise if pulsing from one end, add another coil in series to it and see how it goes.

I cannot remember Tesla ever stating this outright like I have, but when you look at his designs, it seems like his was instinctive but he had to know this otherwise he would never have wanted to invent something better, like AC, that sort of takes care of the problem to a certain degree, but not completely since he was not dealing with square waves. That's why I suggest you try your above coil with sine wave audio as an easy start. Then advance to square waves but I don't know enough about the EE end to say how. Maybe with two H-Bridges one on each end with one slightly off.

wattsup

PS1: The guys that could take immediate advantage of this are those playing with JouleThief designs. If you have a 5 turns primary simply add another 5 turns to it but off the core. Pulse on the core end of the primary. see the difference. At five or more added turns, this will not change the inductance that much but now, it will make the primary that is on the core fully active. lol

PS2: Man, I am just waiting to be clobbered now.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.05.29, 04:21:20
The 2 primaries(purple and blue) are wound in opposite directions.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.03, 23:36:13
@GK

You will have to describe how the horizontal wires are wound because it will depend on that.

The way I see in each level your horizontals as being two lengths of dual speaker wire that have 2-3 turns each that you put one on top of the other before you wound the outer coils.

I made a quick drawing of how I see them and if that is how they are, showing how to connect them.

Let me know if this is clear enough or if your wind is different please advise.

wattsup
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.04, 06:58:31
Each horizontal is bifilar 4 turns each.
I will wire this up next excluding the middle set using only top and bottom layers.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.04, 16:17:43
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.06.04, 06:58:31
Each horizontal is bifilar 4 turns each.
I will wire this up next excluding the middle set using only top and bottom layers.

@GK

Given I now know how the horizontals are wound per each of your three levels as you said bifilar 4 turns, I have modified my drawing. This shows the three levels of your build and how to connect each level the same way, then put them in parallel to pulse. You can try this with only one or two, that is OK also.

The vertical winds are not shown but each level will have four as your build is done.

The top most wire receives Left means the bifilar wire that is against the top most part of the outer coils. The bottom most wire receives Right means the bottom most wire that is against the bottom most part of the outer coils. You do this per level then just parallel them.

Once this is done and you start testing to find the greatest output on your outer coils. You can then change where you are pulsing to see the differences compared to this base method.

wattsup
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.05, 01:29:18
Dual supply for avr dds controller and scalar wave detection ampilfier.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.05, 15:59:19
The GK3 has 3 layers of 16awg bifilar stranded copper. Each layer has 4 segments of 20awg solid wrapped perpendicular. Around all layers there is a cage of 1 segment wrapper of 16awg bifilar stranded copper.
I am pulsing the 3 copper cores as Wattsup has posted with 10watts left and right channels.
Have wired up the 3 red segment layers in series for scoping. 13khz with 90d phase gives highest natural p-p signal.
With the LC setup for resonance of the secondary this can be run like a Tesla coil.
By pumping in sine waves to the horizontals not only can I produce an effective aperture but short the coil at 90d or at the quarter wave length height. I can spin the magnetic field also with this sync'd pulse of the control coils.
Shorting the coil at the 90d mark essentially reproduces the Magnacoaster effort.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.06, 22:47:59
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.06.05, 15:59:19
The GK3 has 3 layers of 16awg bifilar stranded copper. Each layer has 4 segments of 20awg solid wrapped perpendicular. Around all layers there is a cage of 1 segment wrapper of 16awg bifilar stranded copper.
I am pulsing the 3 copper cores as Wattsup has posted with 10watts left and right channels.
Have wired up the 3 red segment layers in series for scoping. 13khz with 90d phase gives highest natural p-p signal.
With the LC setup for resonance of the secondary this can be run like a Tesla coil.
By pumping in sine waves to the horizontals not only can I produce an effective aperture but short the coil at 90d or at the quarter wave length height. I can spin the magnetic field also with this sync'd pulse of the control coils.
Shorting the coil at the 90d mark essentially reproduces the Magnacoaster effort.

@GK

Can you please explain something. The indications I provided were designed for the device you showed on page 1 with the three distinct levels, each having your horizontals and those four vertical coil sections (12 verticals in all). But the picture you show above is a different unit, I think. So then I gather that this newer build follows the general idea. Sorry but I am a bit confused here. And what about the other drawing you showed of the two rings and the six coils paired in twos.

wattsup


Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.07, 14:49:59
There are 3 devices.
The GK4 / iron wire core.
The one you originally posted for has only 3 segments on 3 layers.
The last one, gk3, has 4 vertical segments / control coils and 3 horizontal layers.

The common component is 3 layers of bifilar stranded. The difference is the number of control coils / segments.

The 4 segment unit, gk3, lends itself to the 2 frequencies of 90 degrees phasing.

Also in both units the horizontals are low impedance and I am proposing a test of the comp wave generation on those, but only on one of the bifilar run. This would put the event inside the control coils and directly on the other run of the bifilar pair.
If you have another train of thought for the GKBFG2k I can apply that to the that unit. I have all these set up on my bench with pulsing controls.

This last thing I want to try is the compwave generation on the GK4 because of the iron core. I don't want to get hurt again. When the core saturates and the high speed pulses hit it, the energy shoots off in all directions. What I did not mention before was I wrapped the whole thing in aluminum foil for a cage. The sparks fly off the creases. A friggin Frankencoil ! Maybe I did something wrong or right. :D

But back to the GK3 coil. I am curious as to what you suggest for the GKBFG2k using the 3 segments. Marco had posted a scheme against it with the 3 layers and 3 controls sequencially but then posted that it was wrong. It is setup and good to go by what you mentioned. The counter running pulses on the bifilar are very similar in nature to the compwave generation scheme. The tricky timing scheme you mentioned is in league with the 50ns pulses at 100ms gap. This is applicable to the 5k to 20k frequency range. Just like a speaker... So this fits the output parameters of the audio amps.

By applying square waves into the audio amps I get the same pulse shape Bruce_tpu posted 2 years ago.

A caveat here: Lets look at speed. The Muller replication without the flux cutting is a slow attempt. With the flux cutting the speed is then appreciably accelerated. The counter rotating pulses speed things up phenominally. And this is where the scalar waves come from. It is this next frequency range that is necessary. We are way beyond BEMF here. And that is the key.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.07, 23:23:01
@GK

Would it be too much trouble if you could please make a post with a picture of each unit and name the image as per their designation or add them to your last post. I just don't want to make any assumptions.

It is pretty incredible how such builds, when pulsed in a particular manner produce some very interesting coupling efficiencies that would equal or even surpass standard transformers while offering direct coupling without having to work with massive laminates.

Also, a few days ago you posted a diagram of another device that had two distinct rings with six coils wound over them. But you removed that drawing. That one really caught my eye because if the rings are not insulated, and if the coils can slide on the loops somewhat, it is a perfect candidate for understanding nodes. I put a quick drawing of it below.

wattsup
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.08, 03:43:51
Tower coils:
The 6 small vertical coils on the 3 red coils of each layer do not slide and it is 3 layers.

Smith clone:
The red one has 4 red segments,  2 horizontals with 2 verticals. I can add another vertical quickly. These slide.

Not shown are the GK3 and the GK4.
The GK4 with iron wire cores pulsed with the dual pulse compwave generation scheme does not produce the wave.
I will configure this next to pulse the outer cage windings as one long winding to see compwave generation.
Scope shot of the GK4 outer wire cage as one run.
The coil segments are all ready setup for rotation pulsing. I will try both simultaneously. The iron wire had no depricating effect on the pulsing scheme.
Its like having a set of FrankenLegos.  :D
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.09, 14:44:36
This pertains to the GK4:
The red coil is driven(12vdc) as bucking inside the light blue compwave cage(100vdc) @ 4 hertz.
The cage is supplied by the EC600 @ 7ma at 14xxx hertz. These speces were to keep the unit safe. I will attach the cage supply to an RV battery to increase the current to increase the compwave size.
Also the cage is serially connected of 4 segments. I will reconnect them all as 4 parallel segments to reduce the inductance further.
Will reconnect the 4 red segments for rotational drive.

In running the bucking set up in the cage I turned the cage on and off and nothing showed on the meters or scope but the amber monitor shows slight flux changes.

The goal is to up the power, apply slight reconfigurations and alter the 14khz down to some harmonic to match the 4 hertz of the inner coil. Also to raise the rotational frequency.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.10, 12:39:14
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.06.08, 03:43:51
Tower coils:
The 6 small vertical coils on the 3 red coils of each layer do not slide and it is 3 layers.

Smith clone:
The red one has 4 red segments,  2 horizontals with 2 verticals. I can add another vertical quickly. These slide.

Not shown are the GK3 and the GK4.
The GK4 with iron wire cores pulsed with the dual pulse compwave generation scheme does not produce the wave.
I will configure this next to pulse the outer cage windings as one long winding to see compwave generation.
Scope shot of the GK4 outer wire cage as one run.
The coil segments are all ready setup for rotation pulsing. I will try both simultaneously. The iron wire had no depricating effect on the pulsing scheme.
Its like having a set of FrankenLegos.  :D

Hi @GK

Sorry but had a few crazy days to work out.

OK, I was always thinking of the Tower coils when I suggested the audio lcr. Of course you can apply it to all your builds. Even if this is not the final answer for one build, it will give you some good learning about coil dynamics.

GK, the main reason I mentioned this regardless of this or any other system, if you build a structure that you want to ring from start to finish, then you have to make two. If you make a build and want only half to be active, then build it any way you want, this is what we are doing now. I am starting to understand that very sly fellow @brnbrade. This is where we are making some major mistakes.

If we wind an outer coil of 180 degrees and 1000 turns, we have to realize that when you pulse it on one side, only half of it will actually react in a dynamic manner. That is the pulse end. The pre-biased end will always remain pre-biased. The pulsed end will change polarity. So, if you want to make 1000 turns of wire fully reactive, you need another 1000 turns coil in series and up the input power.

That's why on the Tower Coil horizontals I suggest you pulse on the topmost and bottom most wire with the L and R and parallel the other ends to C. Your two turns was perfect so at least one 360 degree loop will be shifting.

Also, it does not matter if the Tower Coil has three verticals instead of four since I would always consider the verticals as being the output accumulators. I doubt that pulsing in the verticals will create enormous power in the rings. There would be so much cancellation events happening on that one coil to try and make head or tales of any. It is the rings that must ring, like bait for a school of fish. The bait is for ether to attack the ringing and while it does that it passes through the outer verticals (your fish net) creating your magnetic fields and permeating the area around the rings.

Now for the "Piece-de-resistance" which is that beautifully looking and tenderly build Smith clone. It just makes my mouth water with all the potential things you can do with it. I prepared a few drawings to introduce you to the possible ways of pulsing and also of considering how to pulse with other rings in future  builds.

I have to also indicate that that this build reminds me the most of the LTPU.

I think the ideal practicing rig would be a simple 100 turns coil that is wound flat and a few horizontals that can slide up or down for "nodeing around" versus the applied frequency.

wattsup

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.11, 04:52:08
@Wattsup,
On the horizontals: I am wondering if they could sit on the outside?
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.12, 15:12:13
The sites I reference are:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10606.msg281423#msg281423
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraconv.htm

I have another take on this:
As can be seen in the schematic picture below all the devices have secondary coils that are different from the primary either in inductance or frequency or both.
The timing in between the input parameters is just right that the bell is rung in a specific way as to entice a special resonance and return.

This model adheres to shorting the coil, Flux cutting, Magnetic field aiding or abetting another...
Now I know why Sauron / SM? posted those video coils!
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=26.msg133#msg133 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=26.msg133#msg133)
They would fit in all the TPUs and be very visible in size to those blocks under the open TPU. The LTPU / SM17 has 2 center tapped coils in the center.

Here is a progression of waveform attempts until a final coup' de grace'

20080501a:


20080502b:


20080502c:


20080605:


20100611:
This unit acts as a one shot, mechanical Tesla coil. I vary the input parameter of the primary and the secondaries respond.


20110612:
Have added two more primaries on the empty quadrants for a total of 4. These are moveable and slide from beginning of segment to end.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.13, 19:41:51
@GK

First off thanks for the reference to the Naudin link on Parametrics. Just some great effects and explanations are top notch.

When you look at the introduction page, Fig. 2 and it says "If in accordance whith Fig 2, the afore-mentionned core is now alternately inserted into and withdrawn from the inductance L and this inductance is, in turn a part of tank circuit, then a parametric oscillator result."

I immediately was thinking what if you put two coils side to side that share the same movable sore. When it moves into one core, it moves out of the other and vise versa making two effects with one movement. lol

OK about your videos I guess especially the last image you put up of Smith Clone with now four yellow coils, I would suggest you start with the pulsing of the top and bottom rings, If you can determine which of the top loops is the highest then put the L on that, then see which of the bottom loops in the lowest and put the R on that then put the C to the other two ends.

For now, just for noding around, leave the red coils as you can simply pulse and read off only one of the yellow coils that you again connect via a diode and a high uF capacitor with an LED. When you see a rise in output from that coil, then try to slide it left and right slightly to see how this effects the output. If it does not, then try to go to a higher frequency with again the best output, then slide that coil again to see any changes in output. The changes in output will mean the nodes are on or off the complete yellow coil width. Once you are in the right position, then add the second yellow coil (alone or in series with the first) and measure off the that. Slide the second one left and right to see if you can increase output.  Then you add the third, then the fourth. The four coils do not have to be in a perfect quadrature, as long as you find the nodes, it won't make any difference.

You can also pulse the rings and work off the red coils. You can only work with the pulse for those. Now the advent of finding one frequency that will provide maximum output to both the reds and yellows will be difficult. You may have to go and use your frequency generator to use higher frequencies.

wattsup
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.13, 22:19:23
Can do, but there is only 1 top and 1 bottom horizontal loops.
My thinking on the smith clone is to parametrically drive two segments in serial and short either the beginning or ending coil. On the white ring coil in the video as you can see I change the inductance and capacitance by grabbing the coil at the pulse end. Grabbing the coil at the ground end did nothing 'in this setup'. So the operation was a single shot parametric operation.

Quote from: wattsup on 2011.06.13, 19:41:51
@GK

First off thanks for the reference to the Naudin link on Parametrics. Just some great effects and explanations are top notch.

When you look at the introduction page, Fig. 2 and it says "If in accordance whith Fig 2, the afore-mentionned core is now alternately inserted into and withdrawn from the inductance L and this inductance is, in turn a part of tank circuit, then a parametric oscillator result."

I immediately was thinking what if you put two coils side to side that share the same movable sore. When it moves into one core, it moves out of the other and vise versa making two effects with one movement. lol

OK about your videos I guess especially the last image you put up of Smith Clone with now four yellow coils, I would suggest you start with the pulsing of the top and bottom rings, If you can determine which of the top loops is the highest then put the L on that, then see which of the bottom loops in the lowest and put the R on that then put the C to the other two ends.

For now, just for noding around, leave the red coils as you can simply pulse and read off only one of the yellow coils that you again connect via a diode and a high uF capacitor with an LED. When you see a rise in output from that coil, then try to slide it left and right slightly to see how this effects the output. If it does not, then try to go to a higher frequency with again the best output, then slide that coil again to see any changes in output. The changes in output will mean the nodes are on or off the complete yellow coil width. Once you are in the right position, then add the second yellow coil (alone or in series with the first) and measure off the that. Slide the second one left and right to see if you can increase output.  Then you add the third, then the fourth. The four coils do not have to be in a perfect quadrature, as long as you find the nodes, it won't make any difference.

You can also pulse the rings and work off the red coils. You can only work with the pulse for those. Now the advent of finding one frequency that will provide maximum output to both the reds and yellows will be difficult. You may have to go and use your frequency generator to use higher frequencies.

wattsup
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.18, 05:28:35
Since I do not have a third horizontal I have taken another approach to producing nodes and I think I have accomplished this.
I have 2 serial pairs of the red coils with a horizontal in series but as a middle coil. This creates a coil inside the red ones at 90 degrees. I get resonant coupling but it is choppy and larger than normal though only 600mv compared to 12vdc power supplied. I believe it is because of the magnetic bias of the blue horizontals.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2011.06.18, 14:47:34
@GK

I had been so absorbed in this Romero puzzle that I forgot to mention about your one turn loops. If there are only one turn on top and one turn on the bottom, just add another loop to each from the outside. It does not matter if the second loop is in or out as long as the pulse (L or R) enters the real loop sides first. The second loop could even be placed outside the real loop and turned like a pig tail. It does not have to turn around the coils. The added length of wire will put the center point at the end of the first loop which is what you want otherwise you are only really pulsing on half of the loop.

wattsup

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2011.06.19, 03:24:26
Here is the other side of the loops.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.04, 17:21:41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponderomotive_force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponderomotive_force)

QuoteThe mechanism of the ponderomotive force can be easily understood by considering the motion of the charge in an oscillating electric field. In the case of a homogeneous field, the charge returns to its initial position after one cycle of oscillation. In contrast, in the case of an inhomogeneous field, the position that the charge reaches after one cycle of oscillation shifts toward the lower field-amplitude area since the force imposed onto the charge at the turning point with a higher field amplitude is larger than that imposed at the turning point with a lower field amplitude, thus producing a net force that drives the charge toward the weak field area.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.11, 05:49:33
200vdc input, 60 spike, 1.5 ma, No magnetic field, Companion wave in a ring.
12vdc bias gets added to the blue collectors next. I will raise the supply voltage to 1000vdc.

It does no good to put one of the collectors in series yet because of the lack of magnetic field.
It does no good to add a magnet because there is nothing to extract.


There are 2 ring control coils, yellow and red separated by a vinyl run to duplicate the antenna wire on the SM17.
The 3 blue collectors are 4 turns.

Next steps:
12vdc bias gets added to the blue collectors. These are 90 degrees to the control coils.
I will raise the supply voltage to 1000vdc.
Wrap in entirety an overall bias coil to facilitate a parallel magnetic field to the controls.

We stress matter with waves of potential and not currents of electrons.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on 2012.01.11, 18:54:10
In regard to Reply #38,

I'm looking into trying to incorportate the basic design of these coil(s) into my concept(s) for UFO propulsion.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

This reply also notifies me of further replies to this thread.

--Lee
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.12, 02:02:12
Displacement current @35:25

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.13, 03:53:18
12vdc low voltage bias.
Nothing extreme on collector, 13vpp.

Will raise the voltage to 1k in increments have to hookup the microwave power supply to the collector.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.14, 04:16:43
HV protocol setup
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.14, 18:49:41
An obvious configuration from SM's statements of [No mass circuitry] and [normal coil operation].


My current build is a similar type build of the SM17. I added the smaller section of the primary pointed out by some one else at the right hand back end.
This now looks like a circular Tesla coil. I even have the 3 horizontal collectors of 4 turns each. Stranded silver coated copper. I have run this item in two different fashions. As I add parts I am changing the incident angle of the compave generation to the biases. This build is like a specific spreadsheet to throw parameters at it.
In one of the setups I need to alter the 14k running frequency(base band) of the dual pulses to match some similar strike point in the circumference.
I went from the paper tube configuration to the 4" ring configuration with ease. This pointed out to me that the low inductance coil is the key. I still have only 4ma current. The voltage is at 200vdc. The first coil winding I tried was the vertical windings on the 4"PVC. I then added a 3" subsection as a low inductance primary. The dual pulse protocol works just a well. My ec600 supply identifies when the limits of voltage, watts, or current have be reached. Very nice safety feature.
I have not added any caps to the primary or secondary windings yet. I want to maintian the compwave as I change my base parameters. I have 50 6a10 diodes. I can make bridges of any size current or voltage should the need arise.
I am focused on the two pairs of caps and the discrete components in the center of the SM17. They are there for a reason. AS I get further along with this configuration I see where and how the components are attached.
I have not seen the compwave generation applied or expressed anywhere in the OU forums except the talk of frequency per circumference.
I also have taken two things said. One by Don Smith and one by Tom bearden. Don wrapped a folded lamp cord around his arm in the 1996 demo video and commented on this is the simplicity. It flew by everybody. Tom Bearden stated that the effect was not readily seen by our primitive instruments, but that it is there. I believe capacitors can absorb energy out of the normal levels we are experienced in and the at the compwave [excess] would store in a cap. The spike is really a much greater transmission than just what we see on the scope. Similar to an EMP but at a higher band. Very much similar to when a flux field rejoins itself after the cut of a wire through it. I have not seen this model in discussion much either and it is very intruiging. The flux reconnecting in one direction creates an electron flow perpendicular to it along a conductor. But that is not what I am focusing on. It is that instant of reconnection that imparts energy.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.22, 06:04:53
The kick that I get is a 71 volt peak and 100ns wide at the base. I supply 200vdc at 400microamps.
The SOL in inches is 11,784,960,000.00
I have a 4" diameter ring of 1 3/4 inches high.
I have a bifilar vertical wrap of 56 turns. This equals 196 inches in wire length.
100ns wide equals 1,178.50 inches which is 6 times greater than the wire length.
So the kick in this build represents 6 revolutions of outward and center pressure.
Timing this to hit a certain time in the ring is a start and stop time in an established bias. The bias is on for 6 revolutions.
The Android Tricorder picks up no magnetic field at all. But the secondary winding of 1/6 the circumference picks up 8v.
The runtime frequency of the pulse scheme is 14,650.23.
I produce 6 revolutions of bias at 14,650 times a second.
This equates to 4,104 rpm. Very close to SMs statement of 5khz.
So the only thing I can surmise from this is the start and stop times of the 6 revolution window runs as a phasing around the ring.
I have a configuration here that begs for a PLL situation. But the amount of circuitry I already have here is the back seat of a small car.
I have had a DC bias field applied but the spike lessens in height.

But...
I put the scope on one of my horizontal collectors I get ~16vac with a ring down of 1 microsecond.
This is the second time I have achieved 90 degree coupling!
Then I serially connect up the other 2 horizontal collectors and I get 20vac with very enhanced ringing.
I will put a cap on that and tune it for Tesla's resonance with amplification.
Did SM not state [You can connect up 3 wires in many ways?].

Also,
I believe the thumping that the TPUs make are the sparkgap. The slowest part of the discharge where we hear the snapping is about right.
Squeezing the hose or hitting an open ended wire is the secondary of a Tesla coil.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.23, 00:16:02
I added a diode before the scope.
That blip down the line interests me. It resides there at 173.913 KHz. I raise the frequency to align to it but can not catch it.

The outer bifilar section is looped into itself from the serially connected collectors.
This puts it at a kick place where the compwave pulsing starts. This wind produces 84vac with ringdown at a length of 6us. That is where the bump on channel 1 (red) appears. Strange.
The outer bifilar is only 1/6 or 16.6% or ~66 degrees of the coil.
32 outer turns against 56 inner turns though.
I am going to wind a 15 turn trinary outer on the 32 turn outer and pulse that.
What is interesting to note is that I have no capacitors in the coil circuit and very low inductance to produce that prominent decay.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Peterae on 2012.01.23, 08:37:36
I have also seen that bump on many of my phase shift sweeps, i have never really bothered to look at it.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.23, 16:25:15
Aetheric echo?
The decay from the fets is minimal as can be seen in the immediate off time in the red trace.
When the coil ringing comes to an almost stop the blip appears.
Its like when the physical injected pressure stops the aether wants to subside at its freedom of movement. And [Blip], there it is.
There is also a [dead] zone right before the blip. Then ringing can be seen after the blip. These two sets of ringing are different compared to the coil ringing. The coil ringing does not acurately reflect the fet line ringing.

To quote SM: "It's the way coils act naturally".

Previous though now extinct...
QuoteI am going to further isolate the fets from the coil by placing more diodes. I know.... they don't do anything in this region of hyperactivity. But we are limited in the devices at hand. But my suspicion is if I further eliminate the slight ringing from the fet drive lines then I suspect I can get to that blip.
Furthermore I will place more LC blocking in line to further minimize the decay.

As of 20120124:
Removed diodes. The signal is now 135vpp.
A section of the ringing reveals a nice sinewave of 190ns or 5,263,157.89~hz.
The scope displays ~173khz.
Will add longline rc filter using the horizontal collectors as an L of 5uh.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: wattsup on 2012.01.24, 15:54:14
@GK

I think the easiest base test for your coil is simply to take a mains transformer 120v input and 12v to 25v output and connect it to your three horizontal loops in series. Put all your verticals in series to a dioded capacitor of good enough uF with or without a load. Look at input and output on the scope and volt meter the output. This is what I call force feeding since your mains transformer will give great amplitude and great sine wave switching.

Then modify the H loops in the series configuration...

Start 1) Top - center - bottom
2) Top - bottom - center
3) Top - bottom only
4) Top - center only
5) Center only

Then modify the H loops in the parallel/series configuration.

Start 6) Top/Bottom is series in parallel to center
7) Top - center - bottom all in parallel.

With all these variables, you will see different results on the output. So you find the best output config and then you start playing with your vertical coils instead of all series, check each one individually off the best H driving method and start testing the Vertical outputs with either series/parallel and even bifilar type connections to see again the best output.

Once that is done you can reverse the test and drive the V coils and measure off the H loops.

All these tests will give you some good base ideas on the dynamics of your coils and their relationships. If some configs respond at the 60Hz sine wave level, then they will respond at higher frequencies as well but then you can work out higher frequency square or sine wave pulsing always looking for any effect that gives you a better output result then the best base test.

The main question to answer at this initial stage is what is the connection configuration that will provide the maximum output. Some of the above will work against each other while others will work in tandem with each other while it may be that the best config is to not use some of the coils or loops. I have a sixth sense feeling that the center loop is not needed because the limited coil height making the center loop really out of any useful node point relative to the V coils.

Last thing about the H loops, if it was possible to get a center tap on the center loop, you could put the loops in series as top - center - bottom put the ends top and bottom ends together as one side and the center loop center tap as the other side. This will give you dual rotor type action inside the V coils but then you can play with how the H loops are connected. Like this. The first designation is which loop and the second is which wire of that loop.

Top bottom to center top - center bottom to bottom top - bottom bottom with top top on one side and center center tap to other side.
Top bottom to center bottom - center top to bottom top - bottom bottom with top top on one side and center center tap to other side.
Top bottom to center bottom - center top to bottom bottom - bottom top with top top on one side and center center tap to other side.

Keep up the good work.

wattsup

PS: In my personal perspective, the H loop should be the ether bait since the ether will want to pile onto the H loop and it must pass through the V coils to get there. Pulsing the V coils will only create to many cancellation points on the H loops plus the outer V coil will shield the ether from entering into the H loops. But that is only my perspective.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.01.29, 02:57:53
QuotePut all your verticals in series to a dioded capacitor of good enough uF with or without a load.

For any further results there would have to be .7v on the verticals 90 degree coupled from 4-12 turns with 60hz sine. That's asking alot when using 14vac 60hz with .250a.
At 112 vertical turns * 12 horizontal turns gives 1,344 coupling points.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.02.02, 05:33:53
I put this one here because of the resonance with an iron core and two coils at 90 degrees to each other.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.02.15, 18:47:07
I hope my view is not seen as a non believer by my posts.
I believe.
Look at this subject this way:
The believers are talking about the process before conduction not in conduction.
If there are those that don't understand this then they are in the realm of understanding at the conduction level.
The level before conduction presents a whole other area of device operation.
If this breaks anybody here then I ask them to get acquainted with the next step.

I have not taken alot of advice because I am trying to tap the excitation after the non conductive pulsing.
It looks like pulsing on the screen but it acts like a detonation or smacking against the fabric that makes up the supportive layer of what most believe is reality.
You can wave your hand through it because the assumption is it is nothing or a void. But the space between the subatomic particles and molecules is rock hard at the correct speed. Everything is. Water can kill if hit at a high speed. This same law of interaction applies to all matter. We swage metal by pushing at the correct speed, no?
What does anyone think of why SM mentioned the bullets hitting the side of a car? He was trying to elucidate on the subject of time or speed.

If I use current then this puts the circuit explanation in a common view that we all can basically agree on. But in the realm of prior conduction I have not seen any valid explanations or affirmation from most here except the questions from Groundloop and the terms and statements from Grumpy about displacement or cold current.

There are posters that don't know what they are looking at and when they try to announce or describe they are met with rebuttals. Most have not the knowledge to defend what they are getting as results. I doubt there is anyone here that is totally up on this subject, even myself.
But let me say this:
If you have extremely high frequency with current conduction of .5 amps and higher then you blow equipment up and hurt yourself. Obviously. What I am doing with coils now is to see where the force goes before conduction starts. Again if nobody has seen this or understands then their assessments are void. It is something new to experiment with.

I can not change the timing of my setup or I lose the returning echo. What help I ask for is to review my scope shot and advise me on what components and where I can attach to this process to make it amplify. I have on my list an aparthied capacitor.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt5.html (http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt5.html)

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5971-sr-193-sr193-study-device-theories-diagrams-schematics-experiments.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5971-sr-193-sr193-study-device-theories-diagrams-schematics-experiments.html)







Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.02.15, 22:11:02
Wattsup!,
I applied your suggestion of center tap to my current coil build. Patent 336961 - Tesla.
This shows the 3 configurations of a bifilar coil wind. These configurations also encompass all the configurations from people who claim overunity, including the aparthied capacitor.
You mentioned I did not need 3 collectors. Well 2 fit the patent configuration. And also with the compwave generation scheme. Woulda thunk it, no?

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2012.02.19, 04:27:16
I have been working with very narrow pulses and coil windings that Smith, Kapanadze, SM, EVgrey, Moray and Spherics talked about.
The idea is there is no conduction just pure potential. This is the start of the process. The way SM achieved it was using multiple frequencies to get an eclipsing overlap. The pulsing would shut off very quickly. This rings the coils. Then the next part of the process is to get a sympathetic vibratory ringing between 2 coils going. This creates a resonant transformer overload condition. Just like in every day electronic failures.
If you google [patrick j. kelly free energy] a list of his documents comes up and you will see scores of this. This is where the thumping comes from because of the shifting of the coil away from its center resonant point and back to a resonant connection. The beat frequency is 8hz Schumann. Google [schumann resonance]

This is why it is so simple. We control the overload condition just shy of self destruction. Just like SM stated. And [the coils work naturally].
Make sense?
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.03.02, 04:11:14
Dug this out from history...
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Peterae on 2013.03.02, 11:21:29
Thanks for re posting that GK

Time to re build the Tetra i think.
So the top coil of the Tetra needs to be pulsed at the NMR frequency of Iron or would it be 3rd harmonic of iron and the other 3 base coils at NMR?

http://www.webelements.com/iron/nmr.html

Isotope    57Fe       
Natural abundance /%    2.2       
Spin (I)    1/2       
Frequency relative to 1H = 100 (MHz)    3.237778       
Receptivity, DP, relative to 1H = 1.00    0.000000752       
Receptivity, DC, relative to 13C = 1.00    0.00430       
Magnetogyric ratio, γ (107 rad T-1 s-1)    0.8680624       
Magnetic moment, μ (μN)    0.1569636       
Nuclear quadrupole moment, Q/millibarn    160       
Line width factor, 1056l (m4)    -

I know the frequency will vary depending on the magnetic field strength, but  3.23MHz should be possible

My coils are brooks coils
35SWG
1.85km
774 Ohms
3.23Henrys

So am aiming for at least 3.5MHz at 350V pulses for top coil, each pulse is adjustable in phase +/- 100nS

Is the Tetra worthy of research or was it just for public consumption and not really meant to function other than to indicate the principle of operation.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.03.02, 16:19:30
Quoteto indicate the principle of operation
O0

This is the exact same message I received from Spherics before he left. 8)

He was promoting Magneto-vectorization. The builds are dependent on materials, physical configuration, and pulsing protocol. These must be and all are a congruent balance. Otherwise the test is just knob twiddling. And as @Ex and @Peterae have alluded to if you build a configuration you better know what you are aiming for otherwise you will burn out due to lack of results. The parameters have to come to a congruency where each parameter's output is affiliated with the others. The NMR can be reached be it in a material or field where the low frequencies overlap. Those vector points are the tool. And they can be very high in transition due to the finite point of the eclipse. Since the fields are not exact spheres the vectors can be altered by the angular positions of the coils or materials onto a target of materials or other fields. This process when targeted onto a solid material i.e. something non-moving, will effect the nucleus of the target. Look at all the coil related overunity devices again and you will begin to see the process that extends outside of academia in this area of research. Magnacoaster and the MRI process start at the same point. Do not argue the point of sloppiness versus complexity.
   The compwave generator that Spherics originally proposed was the key insight to all that this overunity effort is and should be focused on. But like @Ex stated, people just go off an build something based upon their electro-mechanical abilities thinking another transformer is going to cut it. Well 'No' and that is correct.

A set of steps to follow to get right into the gist of all this is:
look at the compwave generator protocol, look at the Spheric's build( I said 'look'), look at the papertube roll test that grumpy proposed and Jason and I did, then look at the Stan Deyo birthday cake build (THE LARGEST AMOUNT of Tesla coils in any given space on the planet!) I did a graphic of the fields and hairbear built one and tested it, and my attached pics., Read Russell, Shauberger, Alchemical manual, and Keely. These people talk about the match between fields and matter. Without this you're just posting like 'pin the tail on the donkey'.
   The head to head Tesla coils are a Spheric's build of diminished complexity. But this build offers a variance of physical space. And it is cheap! If the builder does not want to use Tesla coils and go through that level of complexity then simply use 2 ignition coils(watch the current draw, the focus is on potential(pressure not flow))(we don't want to burn we want to shock)(The shock is a higher speed than the current of slower speed) with iron wire pancake coils as heads facing each other to start a test bed. Distance and angle are the only physical parameters in this. Now the meat is you must know your target, what angle of the fields and the distance, and the target's molecular structure. The goal is to produce NMR at, on or in the target. Every target can be considered as media. This should make it easy and save money for anybody wanting and willing to keep on truckin' in this area. Remember this: you change the configuration you alter the effect of the other parameters. This is why Spherics was so adamant about the specifications up front.

This should be in my 'Final answer' thread. The information here is akin to the current trend of 3d printing. Grasp this, get on board and you'll be at the start of an inconceivable revolution. Otherwise, the discussions will be about the validity of processes, poster's knowledge, component operation and egos.

The large Tesla coil is strictly 120v @ 60hz operation. The coils were matched to the input parameters. The head is made up of fluorescent tubes of different gases. The radiant discharge is all that is necessary because the gases only emit their level of radiant spectrum when ionized which happens to match the same molecular components of the body. It's all in the target, baby!

There is no waste of time, only journey.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Grumpy on 2013.03.04, 14:51:46
Quote from: Peterae on 2013.03.02, 11:21:29
Is the Tetra worthy of research or was it just for public consumption and not really meant to function other than to indicate the principle of operation.

No, it is meant to function.  The high pulse-rate puts it into the reach of people with these skills.

He said you could place two copper rods in the rotating region and measure substantial voltage and current, and that you can get the pulse rate down as low as 3kz if you put a SEP around the entire tetra configuration.


Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Peterae on 2013.03.05, 20:15:33
Ah yes i forgot he said that.

So the next question is

are the 3 bottom coils pulsed at the NMR and the top would be 3rd harmonic, if so then i would need to pulse the top coil at over 9MHz which could be hard, but maybe do able i suppose
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Grumpy on 2013.03.05, 20:39:12
Quote from: Peterae on 2013.03.05, 20:15:33
Ah yes i forgot he said that.

So the next question is

are the 3 bottom coils pulsed at the NMR and the top would be 3rd harmonic, if so then i would need to pulse the top coil at over 9MHz which could be hard, but maybe do able i suppose

I recommend placing a large coil around the whole tetra assembly to organize the little things, and then pulse at a much lower rate.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.04.15, 21:01:03

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.05.03, 19:14:54
From the patent EP0099946A1 http://www.google.com/patents/EP0099946A1?cl=en (http://www.google.com/patents/EP0099946A1?cl=en):
Quote[0053]The theory of induced beta decay involves a coupling of the nuclear fragment both to the external electromagnetic field and to the weak (beta decay) interaction. The coupling constant of the weak interaction is very small. On the other hand, the coupling constant to the electromagnetic field is very much larger, particularly in view of the relatively large intensity of the applied field. Furthermore, the field can be regarded as being on for a time approaching infinity before and after the beta decay occurs. Therefore, the weak interaction is treated as a perturbation which causes a transition of the nucleus-plus-field system from one state to another. The combined nuclear-electromagnetic field system is explicitly time dependent, so the standard derivation of the perturbation formalism of beta decay (based on stationary nuclear states) is not appropriate. However, a derivation which is applicable in the presence of explicit time dependence gives a result which has the standard form.
[0054] The perturbation theory just described requires a knowledge of the state vector for the nuclear fragment in the presence of the field. The interacting nuclear wave function employed is the momentum translation approximation.
[0055] The electron emitted in the beta decay does not appear until the decay has occurred, and so its interaction with the field might be thought to be of little consequence. However, the field intensity parameter associated with induced beta decay is so large (and the mass of the electron sufficiently small) that the onset of effective interaction of the electron with the field occurs on a shorter time scale than the Heisenberg uncertainty time of the beta decay interaction. The onset of field-electron interaction is also much faster than the transit time of the newly created beta particle across the nucleus. The electron is therefore represented by a Volkov wave function, which is an exact solution for a free charged particle in the presence of an electromagnetic field.

Quote[0101]The halflife for beta decay is related to the transistion probability per unit time by [t=1n2/W]
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.06.26, 23:33:25
Module in place with Max rs232, Status Led, and piezo. Added reset button.
Power on beeps, and LED flashes.
Now the next step of debug can be executed.
Need to rebuild controller firmware image then program dspic.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: poynt99 on 2013.06.27, 00:34:43
Looks like some pretty heavy stuff there GK.  O0
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: ion on 2013.06.27, 15:07:02
Quote from: poynt99 on 2013.06.27, 00:34:43
Looks like some pretty heavy stuff there GK.  O0

If you've missed reading the Reiss patent, it contains some important clues. Read towards the end "other configurations" . See post # 81 in TK replicates.

While I don't comprehend all the math, I do get the main points of the patent, which I believe relate to the TPU construction and energy source.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.06.27, 18:28:10
Quote from: poynt99 on 2013.06.27, 00:34:43
Looks like some pretty heavy stuff there GK.  O0

This controller worked. Now the pc and ctrlr are either missing bits or some kinda nightmare. Spurious errors are happening in jasons and my unit. I'll find it. I have to compare the pc and ctrlr software heap and the rs232 bbitstream. Hacking talent never really truly goes away.  >:-)
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.06.29, 20:20:44
I got the controller working! It still needs some tweeking but the error laid in a variable definition in the firmware code. When I get that done I am back on track. This process only took a week to find the bug. I need to set the firmware up to do exactly the protocol I need. Then the fun starts. I can get back to applying to my current build. I still need to build a 2nd primary for the other side of my two tesla coil configuration. But now I have the Spheric's process back in my domain. Its been 2 years dealing with this failure. I truck on.

I must be a real geek. My depression has subsided into pure bliss over signals on a scope!
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.07.04, 05:23:50
Controller fixed.
Missing variable initialization in the firmware C code.
Can now continue along the Spherics, Keely, Hutchison, TTBrown path.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.07.04, 18:15:30
The effect of the nanopulse is easily subducted.
I told Jason about this. The dual pulse protocol has 3 components to it. The first component is the actual dual pulse itself and the second component is the spacing between the next pair coming in. The third component is the event.
The dual pulse itself, as outlined by Spherics is the necessary chain to affect copper. Key point here.
The  second component is for the actual topology of the copper itself dealing with length, gauge, loop diameter or linear section, number of windings, spacing, volume, and mass. I know some of these seem redundant or not a correct collective but these are the entities that go into a copper target we have have all been creating.
The third component is the event. This we have all seen in many ways. To the untrained or inexperienced eye this area can be very exciting or mysterious. This area is what we are trying to lay claim to but have not been taught or experienced in. This area is not your typical experience factor.
We have loops and linear length of copper. These create fields that are only the start of what is necessary. The start is the 'Bias' or created medium with which we desire to communicate with. It is an interface with the surrounding environment. Like a buffer. To directly impact the surrounding takes more power, i.e. T.T.Brown. This could be an area to deal with but that will come later as everyone finds out the 'Safe' way to work this format. Brown used aluminum as his strike medium or buffer to then push against the surrounding medium. This worked very well. Make sense so far?
What others are trying to do is, whether they know it or not, is to create a medium with which to use to push against the surrounding. What would this do? The surrounding aether is a very stable pressure. Normally we don't effect it but in very slow ways like radio. But when it is flexed it wants balance at an extreme cost. It will not be moved. But we can do this by creating an opposing extreme pressure. High frequency, high potential do this. This is nothing new.
There are a myriad attempts to move this medium. Banging coils does just that! The medium reflects back with multiple echos. Spark gap in, crashing noise out.
Back to the copper. If there are other metals involved or other copper configurations near then they become what looks to be resistive. But it is not. The other materials lay in different frequency ranges. To match this range is to get a reflection back. To not match this frequency creates a bandwidth filter that subducts the event. When copper is struck at the correct frequency it rings. Think atomically. The other materials become bandpass filters which atomically absorb the activity. This is why low impedance, low inductance, low resistance, air core primaries are so important. There are no other materials present so the activity created can be seen. The activity is there but most of the times we only see the after effect because our tools are slower and have other metals in them. If one can get the correct tool configuration then one can see the event. Or we create the event within range of where 'We ARE'.
If you change your copper topology then you change the second component, the spacing. Obviously. Different space in the copper set equals different space in the 2nd component. The first component is directly related to copper. I am sure the other materials are close to this but with some variation. Different viscosity equals different speed. When the first 2 components are correct the 3rd component, the event will appear.
What to do with the event?
It is equivalent to a very finite strike range of a spark gap. So imagine hitting a select primary with an exacting strike instead of a flood of noise. Tesla loved the conical primary because it is a natural way to tune the primary, as in variable concentric turns with varying dimensional positions. The conical configuration uses a higher band of frequencies from the array of spark gap emissions.
Here is an interesting paradigm correction. http://www.instructables.com/answers/Why-do-primary-coils-differ-in-shape-and-location-/ (http://www.instructables.com/answers/Why-do-primary-coils-differ-in-shape-and-location-/)
To achieve the correct resonant effect, for what end result I don't know, the spark gap is made more intrusive and the later stage tuning is explicit. Why not find the correct input and be done?

Without the correct input all attempts look like this: http://www.instructables.com/id/Quick-and-Dirty-Hand-Held-quotTesla-Coilquot/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Quick-and-Dirty-Hand-Held-quotTesla-Coilquot/)
Or just play with a paper clip in the wall outlet?

Just another stun gun...
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: bte on 2013.07.08, 15:49:53
I've seen a coil self-pulse when wrapped in a certain way and pulsed with an extremely high voltage pulse. It keeps "pulsing" or oscillating by itself, only the pulses are both positive and negative, like a train of alternating extremely quick spikes. I don't know what to make of that.

The coil was wrapped like a vertical solenoid, with another coil wrapped around the circumference, and the windings angled slightly. Pulsing the angled winding once, then shorting the coil causes the oscillations to continue until it breaks due to over voltage at some point (the voltage keeps rising at large rate). The vertical coil is the output, but it's totally unusable because the pulses are so quick, short, and switch polarities. Maybe it's nothing but a weird effect, but it was interesting to see.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: Peterae on 2013.07.08, 17:48:31
bte
I would say that sounds amazing, i would continue with your work or show a video of whats happening here so we can see  ^-^
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: bte on 2013.07.08, 19:11:00
I will get them to make a video and post it. Sadly, it wasn't me, but unless I've been taken for a fool, it looked real enough on the scope. (via skype)

Sorry for the interruption, I'll see if I can get a video for you guys.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.07.09, 17:20:36
@bte, i also have a nmr video on youtube. Its on my our bench. I'll find it.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.07.12, 21:34:49


The TPU had foam or cork as a dielectric layer with high voltage potential circuit. This explains why SM stated they are so simple and a new type of induction. The atomic alignment and subsequent spin occurred in the dielectric layer. The middle loop is the collector. The outer coil created a bias to feed the engine. This is starting to look like Keely and his explanation of atomic vortexes.

So the TPU is looking like a very large capacitor.

What is interesting about Stan Meyer is he created a capacitor and between the 2 plates used water as a free flowing plasma source. As it became light is was replaced with a denser medium, water. Interesting recycling loop or charge pump.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: bte on 2013.07.13, 12:04:22
I never did see a definitive diagram for the flat SM TPU, do you have a drawing that shows the windings and connections that spherics described?
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.07.16, 03:07:49
I have posted all I have from Spherics
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.07.23, 03:12:55
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1526.msg32947#msg32947 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1526.msg32947#msg32947)

QuoteTo cause precession, all you need is two orthogonal forces, and motion/translation of one of these forces.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.08.01, 20:18:49
Bench expanded. Configuration set up.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.08.17, 17:24:18
Its all about effecting a bias. Mechanically, chemically, radioactively, magnetically. Its all the same no matter what the time frame.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.08.20, 18:58:26
 I am still in tpu land. Look at patent 5568005 in 1996. Tpu inards. You'll see my lastest build has similiarites. 2 tesla coils, external excitation. Magnacoaster and Hutchison both did this also.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.09.05, 03:32:16
Sorry about the poor quality. I was just focused on getting the runtime operation captured and my setup takes up the whole 6 foot bench.


Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: ion on 2013.09.06, 00:50:34
Quote from: giantkiller on 2013.09.05, 03:32:16
Sorry about the poor quality. I was just focused on getting the runtime operation captured and my setup takes up the whole 6 foot bench.




Thanks for the video and  your substantial  effort getting all this together. Maybe as a control, you could replace all the coils with equivalent impedance resistors, just to see if your coils might be interfering with the power supply. Those large meters on the EC-600 are plastic and radio waves can go right through and into the pc board behind them and wreak havoc with the control circuitry.

I have an EC 600 and a few others and note also that they are not designed for fast transient recovery like a standard bench supply. They definitely have a long time constant, which may contribute to the bouncing you are seeing.

Carry on the good fight!
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2013.09.12, 02:37:01
I have another one. This was pointed out by Jason. In the video you can see the meters pulsating. They are pulsating in synchronization with the crickets or vice versa.
I assure that this is not a scam or setup. It is a true anomaly. I always wondered how crickets, even for miles up and down the Potomac river, could stay in synchronization. Could it be an ELF scalar wave, like a tide, moving to and fro?

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2018.08.04, 19:45:03
Any old heads remember this? Transmission reflections...

 http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3658.msg69724#msg69724 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3658.msg69724#msg69724)
My 2 cent and no domineering: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=834.0 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=834.0)
I just tried to reproduce this with Jason's SSRB boards, my two signal generators and a new rigol ds1054. Should have worked.
Alas I could not and dont know why. Could be my ignorance. Been known to happen.

I did not use Jason's controller that I built and tested with him. But with reproduction of the input parameters using sig gennys should have been easy peasy. Twas not.
I said Hmmm. I didnt want to go down setting up such a large peripheral reproduction in installing more software on the next pc. I could still do that tho. The bucket list is a fast moving train gathering new cars every day and I am at the wrong station. I had to switch tracks again and shelved any further attempts.

I hope enough read this as this is the coup de grace moment:
That secondary additive pulse arrives from a reflection to a SWR returning to the source. My other latest attempts have spelled this out.
Clue: You have to get out of the way of the return. Check the parameters in the posted thread.
When that returning pulse is in phase with the next transmission we get additive power. And that is what you are seeing. Think power line reflections.
Now position that SWR at a particular point in a ring configuration and one gets a huge additive, reflective, resonant peak.
The tester will see the grand results in their tools. I added LEDS to the sinks on the outside edge of the resonant fields and they lit very brightly(I cant remember the guys name about the two counter LEDS on a radiant probe.) No more videos from me as the last tests have become very obvious. I blew LEDS in the resonant field. I had to stack LEDS like in the stun gun charge pump stage. Again I took the stun gun circuit and inserted large resonant loops in the charge pump stage. I was chasing the attempt to build this pump greater. Operation was at 9Mhz just to compensate for the loop size. SM told me not to do this by an airport. The output inductor primary field impacts the input inductor secondary creating an in air feedback loop. I state this because when the tester gets the SWR and resonant down pat then they will want to connect differing loads to the testing circuit. And play by moving the SWR peak around the loop.

I hope this fits in with what this thread is trying to achieve and Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: ion on 2019.03.06, 15:58:26
Quote from: exnihiloest on 2011.05.09, 10:12:20
Thanks for reminding me about the "companion wave". I read about it some years ago then I forgot it. Even though the bases are very fragile, both theoretically (Bibhas De is considering only empty space with no charge sources, Rho = 0, J = 0) and experimentally (crossed field antennae do not support his theory, they are just shortened antennae radiating classically with only a bit better efficiency due to the radiation of both magnetic and electric fields from the near zone), his way of thinking is interesting. I'll take a look at it again.

F6FLT:

Have you completed your second look at this topic? Just wondering what your findings were.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: F6FLT on 2019.03.07, 09:20:01
Quote from: ion on 2019.03.06, 15:58:26
F6FLT:

Have you completed your second look at this topic? Just wondering what your findings were.

Hi Ion,

This was my last look:
Quote from: exnihiloest on 2011.05.16, 06:31:46
The "companion wave" is a momentum wave. It can be detected only by the mechanical force exerted onto an antenna mounted on a piezoelectric sensor. There is no possibility of direct electric measurement of the source. See §4 http://www.bibhasde.com/veipaper.pdf
The paper dating 1993, I'm afraid the author failed in realizing himself the experiment.

In this paper, Bibhas De calculated a force of 0.1N on an antenna in the Earth's magnetic field subjected to an EM flux of 1W/m². This is a very strong force that cannot remain unnoticed when using KW and a stronger magnetic field. The effects of momentum of an electromagnetic wave have been investigated, particularly for space propulsion, and they are considerably smaller.
There is no convincing experiment to support his theory.

Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2019.06.09, 17:55:06
The companion wave is a micro reflection. Nothing new, just another way to achieve the echo.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2022.11.14, 04:00:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5E6QyAhTB3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5E6QyAhTB3o)
They are trying to explain the vertical transition of a square pulse. That speed is what they need so its not impossible.
The goal is to counterbalance the Q squared term charge. He mentioned hitting a stable magnetic field with a pulse to get the coulombs up.
Pais is explaining the destabilization of the toroid field but he thinks one needs high energy in a plasma field. It sounds like they are disregarding reflections.
Laviolette explains high power is not necessary with square waves because the edge harmonics are microwave and higher.
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: partzman on 2022.11.14, 15:28:31
Quote from: giantkiller on 2022.11.14, 04:00:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5E6QyAhTB3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=5E6QyAhTB3o)
They are trying to explain the vertical transition of a square pulse. That speed is what they need so its not impossible.
The goal is to counterbalance the Q squared term charge. He mentioned hitting a stable magnetic field with a pulse to get the coulombs up.
Pais is explaining the destabilization of the toroid field but he thinks one needs high energy in a plasma field. It sounds like they are disregarding reflections.
Laviolette explains high power is not necessary with square waves because the edge harmonics are microwave and higher.

GK,

Thank you very much for this video link!  Anyone interested in FE should watch this interview with Pais!

Pm
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2022.11.14, 17:36:07
Freecad has Finite Element Analysis. Flux fields can be analyzed.

https://wiki.freecadweb.org/FEM_EquationFlux
(https://wiki.freecadweb.org/FEM_EquationFlux)

https://wiki.freecadweb.org/FEM_Workbench (https://wiki.freecadweb.org/FEM_Workbench)
Title: Re: Companion wave generator
Post by: giantkiller on 2022.11.14, 23:24:19
The ECD is a magnifying transmitter for the companion wave.