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I would not be surprised if the German wings co-pilot was targeted for hypnosis programming due to his past discrepancies.
It makes no sense to me that a man could fly a plane into the ground and they can hear him breathing normally on the tape but he does not speak or anything. Surely a person about to knowingly fly into a mountain would mutter some kind of final words. This is why I think he may have been in an hypnotic trance, possibly triggered by the captain leaving the cockpit.

Using mentally unstable people for psyops lackies would be the best way. eg. Martin Bryant.

It is another strange one that. I'm not buying the official story already.

Conversely if the guy was just depressed and did did do that on his own with his own mind in control then that says a lot about the state of today's world that he was not found out in the psych tests. Maybe they confused "depression" for "desperation".

Gives me yet another reason tom refuse to fly on commercial aircraft. I'll get on an ADF Herc or Orion any day, but no way on this Earth will I get on board a Tiger airlines Jet ect.

Two in the cockpit at all times seems like it should be a routine measure, seems idiotic not to do that.

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I can't confirm this to be true, since I'm not on the inside, so to speak:  Supposedly ALL commercial aircraft for the past 25 years have installed remote piloting electronics.

If this is in fact true, can anyone explain why it would matter if anyone was in the cockpit?  Wouldn't it be obvious if an aircraft was off course to take corrective measures?

Taking a small step forward, one might also start to wonder about the whole terrorist high-jacking farce in general.


The powers that be can wreck as many aircraft as they want, it won't change my mind that we are not getting the real truth about anything.
   

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All Lufthansa flights are electronically monitored continuously
in order to detect and correct any malfunctions.  Germanwings
is Lufthansa.

Quote from: Lufthansa Technik Frankfurt
“Constant monitoring of all aircraft in the Maintenance Control Center Lufthansa Technik's Maintenance Control Center monitors the technical status of the serviced aircraft worldwide, both on the ground and in the air, and controls necessary procedures. The structural statuses of the aircraft and the due dates for required and planned modifications and tasks are constantly tracked and monitored.

Everything that is part of fleet management is controlled here around the clock and around the world. At the Lufthansa Traffic Control Center in Frankfurt, staff compile all required data on the Lufthansa fleet operating worldwide using what is known as the ACARS system (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System), a data network using HF radio and satellites, and analyze it. Potential faults are immediately detected."

Whatever it was which caused the plane's rapid descent
(highly abnormal) should be within the electronic record.

Has a point of impact been determined which would have caused
the aircraft to disintegrate or is it suspiciously similar to the MH-17
debris field?  Did the aircraft disintegrate before it made contact
with any mountain?

The cover story regarding the co-pilot may be a possibility but
I doubt that it is the real cause of the tragedy.  Other aircraft in
that same general vicinity have experienced rapid loss of altitude
very mysteriously in recent weeks as well.  Fortunately, they were
able to recover and regain control before crashing.



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Did the aircraft disintegrate before it made contact
with any mountain?

Good question as it has been reported the tail section was mostly intact.  So did it just come loose or was it detached by some aerial assault?
   

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Just finished watching this video. What makes it so different is from 45 minutes on. Gives reason as to why people prefer to just look the other way,and bury there head in the sand. I dont think  it will be long before this is all reopened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUYya6bPGw


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Lets assume for a moment we could know exactly and with great detail what happened that day.  What would we learn...?
  • About human psychology?
  • Military technology?
  • Financial systems?
  • Organization and structure of governmental systems?
  • Short and long term agendas?

I suspect it would be so revealing no one could deny their present understanding of the world around them to be inconsistent with their actual reality.  And what might that lead to?

Change.  And a lot of it.  I would go so far as to say a complete revolution.  It would be clear to all, power has been amassed in the hands of those not responsible enough to have it.

A complete knowledge of how and why the major events of September 11th, 2001 took place, by every individual on the planet, would forever change the world.  People would no longer take their own knowledge for granted; they would leave no stone unturned.  They would seek proof in everything, a thorough understanding of everything.  The desire for true knowledge would be overwhelming as it would be a way out of our current condition, likely the only way out.

So yes TinMan, we (as a populace) can no longer bury our heads in the sand.  We must engage.
   

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Lets assume for a moment we could know exactly and with great detail what happened that day.  What would we learn...?
  • About human psychology?
  • Military technology?
  • Financial systems?
  • Organization and structure of governmental systems?
  • Short and long term agendas?

I suspect it would be so revealing no one could deny their present understanding of the world around them to be inconsistent with their actual reality.  And what might that lead to?

Change.  And a lot of it.  I would go so far as to say a complete revolution.  It would be clear to all, power has been amassed in the hands of those not responsible enough to have it.

A complete knowledge of how and why the major events of September 11th, 2001 took place, by every individual on the planet, would forever change the world.  People would no longer take their own knowledge for granted; they would leave no stone unturned.  They would seek proof in everything, a thorough understanding of everything.  The desire for true knowledge would be overwhelming as it would be a way out of our current condition, likely the only way out.

So yes TinMan, we (as a populace) can no longer bury our heads in the sand.  We must engage.
It is funny Matt-the thing that made me take another look at this 9/11 fiasco. Sterling actually kicked it off,and it snowballed from there on in. MarkE of course came into play,and then the sh-t hit the fan . He (and another who shall remain nameless) decided to pay out on Steve(physics Prof),so i up'd the anti.

During that discussion it became apparent that MarkE and a few others there really are in a state of denial. The more MarkE talks and tries to explain thing's,the more apparent it becomes that he just doesn't know what he is talking about in relation to thing's that should be self explanatory . One claim is that he believes that no straight thinking half decent physicist would use the term free fall,as apparently there is no such thing when subjected to earths atmosphere-->this was in reference to tower 7 coming down-just above free fall speed. That discussion bought about me looking at the reports from NIST,and the official report from the national commission on terror attacks really opened my eyes as to just how far fetched the official story is.

I'm hopping Steve will jump in again,and give us any update info on another investigation that may be just around the corner.


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If anyone is a plant to steer things in another direction, he is, the vibrations around his words are some what uneasing >:-)

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So put your minds at work guy's,who here can work out what MarkE cannot.
How did building 7 drop slightly faster than free fall speed?-->what is the only way building can fall faster than free fall speed.
When we say free fall speed,we are assuming that there is no air resistance,so free fall speed as in a vacuum.


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building 7 is a no-brainer.

They don't ever mention it on the news in the UK at 911 anniversaries

Building 7 is not even worth a debate.
When I have  mentioned it to some of my unaware colleagues they have been  shocked.
Building 7 was HQ to some of US's most secret services and designed to withstand
a nuclear blast.

It's a no-brainer.

Even a six year old can understand the implications.


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Whenever I went to building 7 during construction to do testing or training  [the last time was for the fireproofing contractor]
everybody on the Job was saying "whats up with the iron here?? why so huge ??

I have NEVER seen Iron like that , the  Diagonal cross bracing on the lower level really sticks in my Mind, of course
this construction was to a much higher standard than pre 1993 bombing .

I have never really reached out to the guys that were on these jobs... the trades  never talk about accidents
Death or  injuries.[a superstition] and in this case it seems to be quite true, I know that queries would NOT be well received by Men still working in the field [superstitious and "bad Luck to talk about these things"]

I have to say that this belief system grew on me over the years too..
   

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Whenever I went to building 7 during construction to do testing or training  [the last time was for the fireproofing contractor]
everybody on the Job was saying "whats up with the iron here?? why so huge ??

I have NEVER seen Iron like that , the  Diagonal cross bracing on the lower level really sticks in my Mind, of course
this construction was to a much higher standard than pre 1993 bombing .

I have never really reached out to the guys that were on these jobs... the trades  never talk about accidents
Death or  injuries.[a superstition] and in this case it seems to be quite true, I know that queries would NOT be well received by Men still working in the field [superstitious and "bad Luck to talk about these things"]

I have to say that this belief system grew on me over the years too..

Steel cutting charges, the only way that building could come down the way it did, and a lot of them.

I wounder if there was an underground link with the twin towers!!! there maybe your control link to the bringing down of the towers, then after get rid of the evidence, job done ???

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So put your minds at work guy's,who here can work out what MarkE cannot.
How did building 7 drop slightly faster than free fall speed?-->what is the only way building can fall faster than free fall speed.
When we say free fall speed,we are assuming that there is no air resistance,so free fall speed as in a vacuum.

Most video equipment scans at 30 frames per second, so with video of the building falling and good location markers, one should be able to empirically calculate the speed of gravity, which should be approximately 32 ft/s2.  If by doing the work you find the building fell faster than 32 ft/s2, someone has a little explaining to do, because now we have a recorded event where the force of gravity was actually altered here on planet earth.  I'd seriously like to see that explained outside any possible margin of error.  If this can be proven, I hope you all understand just how sophisticated the real perpetrators of this event are.  Probably wouldn't be too wise to go letting the air out of their tires.

Now, if the increased speed is due to a massive pressure differential between the air above the building and the air (or lack of) inside the building, that's a bit different.  First thing that comes to my mind is something like HHO creating a massive implosion.  I would think under these conditions we would see the exterior of the building crimp in from all sides, not just the top.  Has anyone seen a good profile video of building 7 falling?
   

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Most video equipment scans at 30 frames per second, so with video of the building falling and good location markers, one should be able to empirically calculate the speed of gravity, which should be approximately 32 ft/s2.  If by doing the work you find the building fell faster than 32 ft/s2, someone has a little explaining to do, because now we have a recorded event where the force of gravity was actually altered here on planet earth.  I'd seriously like to see that explained outside any possible margin of error.  If this can be proven, I hope you all understand just how sophisticated the real perpetrators of this event are.  Probably wouldn't be too wise to go letting the air out of their tires.

Now, if the increased speed is due to a massive pressure differential between the air above the building and the air (or lack of) inside the building, that's a bit different.  First thing that comes to my mind is something like HHO creating a massive implosion.  I would think under these conditions we would see the exterior of the building crimp in from all sides, not just the top.  Has anyone seen a good profile video of building 7 falling?
Here are my thoughts on it. When they refer to falling faster than free fall speed,most demolition mobs include air resistance when they say free fall speed,not free fall speed in a vacuum. This being the case,if a building is bought down using explosives,then what would occur?. When the explosives go of,a huge pressure wave exits in the building due to rapid heating of the air inside .But the rapid heating then turns,and rapid cooling starts once all thermal energy has been released by the explosives. This causes a vacuum in the building for a brief time,and i believe that this is how a faster than atmospheric free fall can occur. When a building collapses due to damage,it always comes down in bit's and pieces,and not all the building collapses.


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I came across this video proving the news videos of the plane hitting the tower were CGI,  is this real, did anybody see this before?

http://youtu.be/m5Dl5jIdtdk


And faked victim names?  

http://youtu.be/PoZEuj1VPv0


Actor with men in black around Fox News reporter on 911,  the guy says all the buzz words and plants the official story.  Crowd control?

http://youtu.be/Z45hI6YuC-I

How can we bring these criminals to justice?

« Last Edit: 2015-07-21, 09:58:17 by EMdevices »
   
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How can we brink these criminals to justice?

Simple.  Continue to do nothing.

After they have eaten and destroyed everything good in this world, they will begin eating themselves, because it's all they know, it's all they are.
   

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Whistle Blower reveals secret program to train
terrorists for America's hegemony.


While the U.S. likes to accuse other nations of being
"sponsors of terrorism" it looks as if the greatest
sponsor of all is the U.S. itself.  Of course, many of
you already knew that...


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I just watched this incredible documentary on the conspiracy of 9/11, so much research all put together.  Wow!   It's long but so absorbing of ones attention, make sure you watch it till the end.

http://youtu.be/O1GCeuSr3Mk
   
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Whether you are an Akula fan or not, I found it interesting he shared this video on his Google+ page:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSW4SG1npqY

Seems to me the only ones left to convince are those "resources" still engaged in the hegemony.  Everyone else already knows...
   

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I just watched this incredible documentary on the conspiracy of 9/11, so much research all put together.  Wow!   It's long but so absorbing of ones attention, make sure you watch it till the end.

The New Pearl Harbor - 9/11


Thanks for the link.

Aye, the last two minutes are very strange.  Where were
the calls actually made from and how was it pulled off?

One day we will know all of the details;  all of the TRUTH.
The psychopaths who dream up these "events" and carry
them out seem not to be aware that all human activity is
"watched" and "placed into the record" for future
accountability.  They really believe that they're getting away
with murder...

Matt,

The Moon Landing Hoax Compilation
tells a great story.  The deception and coverup is conceived of
and executed from the very highest levels of government.


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The Moon Landing Hoax Compilation
tells a great story.  The deception and coverup is conceived of
and executed from the very highest levels of government.

It just seems odd to me, wasn't it JFK that initiated the space-race?  They had already killed him in '63.  So why concoct such a hoax in '69.

It reminds me of the line in Apocalypse Now where Captain Willard tells Colonel Kurtz, "I don't see any method at all."

These creatures truly want the freedom to do anything, any time they have the urge.  They simply exist to do, without conscience, without morals or ethics.  I'm not convinced ending one of these creatures lives is actually murder.  First it would have to be proved to me beyond a reasonable doubt they are actually alive.  Sure would be nice to find some old wizard hiding in a cave someplace that could tell us how to end this curse.  There has been enough lies, deception, murder, torture, destruction and other atrocities committed in the last few centuries to last the entire lifetime of earth itself.


To get back on topic, here's another article:
http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/07/peeling-911-onion-layers-of-plots.html
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One more on the Moon Hoax.  Just for the record.
http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
   

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Dear All.

My wife came across this little snippet this morning.

http://yournewswire.com/alternative-energy-insider-the-elite-are-panicking/

Relevant ??

Cheers Grum.


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