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This is the Mk 2 design for the Supersonic Pulsometer.

The Mk2 is designed to be run from an AC induction heater and begins the integration into an inline design, for later upgrading to the Mk3 and Mk4, which both run from a fire based heat source.

The Mk 1 was designed around AC and DC automotive spark plugs and is being worked on by me, however both versions of the Mk1 require a connection to earth on the body of the device making it live and a shock hazard.

The Mk2 using AC induction heating via a coil allows the ground to be made separate from the device, improving safety and allowing precise control of energy input.

The system is completely automatic with a water chamber heated to 100C creating steam pressure. The steam bleeds through a small annular gap into the steam chamber, bleeding again through a small annular gap past the dump valve piston which is held shut by spring pressure.

When the steam reaches the snapvalve governer pressure builds until the piston is snapped back, dumping pressure to atmosphere, which creates a pressure drop behind the dump valve piston, opening the chamber exhaust.

At this point the steam can flow through the radial porting, closing the non return valve in the air inlet and passing through the De Laval Sleeve accelerating the steam to supersonic speeds.

The supersonic steam forms a shockwave which compresses the air in the top of the chamber and drives the water column below it out through the pump exhaust through the NRV.

When the steam reaches the bottom of the tube it goes through the radial porting holes which are acting as a diffuser and mixes the liquid water, air and steam in a turbulent flow. The steam then condenses creating a rapid volume change inside the tube.

As the steam condensing has created a negative pressure relative to atmosphere the water pump chamber is refilled from a water supply at the bottom of the system with a rising water level. At the same time atmospheric pressure opens the air NRV and the pump chamber fills with air from the top of the chamber, resetting the system for the next cycle.

The process now repeats and we have an automatic steam powered water pump.

The idea behind this is to use the central heating radiator system in your house as the primary heat exchanger providing heat, and the pump pressure storing the energy in the gravitational field via use of an attic water storage tank. The water can then be released in a controlled fashion via a flow control valve to match your pump rate, and the water can be used to drive a small Turgo turbine generator to create electrical power.

Later versions will use the boiling of the water in a pure system so that the water can also be drunk or used for crop irrigation.

Rob  :)
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I'm working Down in NY these few days [till monday].
Oh Boy do I like the looks of that ,This will be an amazing tool for the world!

However the biggest tool of all is your selfless example,and that my friend is going to open some doors !!

You inspire.........

I'll ring you when I get Home tomorrow!!
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Hi Rob
This dose indeed sound like an interesting setup,and i am looking forward to the further development of this system.Is there any video footage of one of your devices running?,as that would be great to see.

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Hi Brad,

Yeah it is an interesting setup and gets even more exciting when we reach the Mk 5 and Mk 6 but that's a conversation for another day...

I don't like making videos as a rule, and I never leave any of my setup's built up, just a workshop full of parts that answer specific questions. However, I have recently made a couple of videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyvJdjVGY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuDeGMuqKmA

The first video is an early version of the Mk 1 explaining the theory of operation and components.

The second video shows the Snapvalve Governer build and functional test. If you can build a Snapvalve Governer then you can build the piston dump valve, because in the Mk2 they are exactly the same! I was so impressed with the Snapvalve's operating characteristics and reliability, as well as other factors I had to consider that it became the valve of choice for the Mk2.

If you want to know why I am starting this little group now, it is because Chet told me about this a few weeks ago:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/13574-underwater-steam-jet.html

You will notice the similarities between the Underwater Steam Jet and my Supersonic Pulsometer because they are based on similar principles. I anticipated the move to patent supersonic steam fluid devices and this is the reason all of my designs are built with off the shelf components and minimal tooling. You cannot suppress by patent what people can build themselves if they have the knowledge.

Unfortunately I am right in the middle of a house move at the moment and all my stuff is in boxes which is incredibly frustrating as I am in the final stages of build prototyping. When I can unpack and get my workshop set back up I will be putting together Mk2 kits for final assembly by the people I send them too. Should be no customs issues etc. because it's just a box of standard parts, but if you know how to assemble them then they become a steam powered water pump. If you want a kit when the time comes no problem, your in this group for a reason, I noticed your enthusiasm for Induction Heating in general and thought you might like the opportunity to be the first person in the world to build and run the Mk2 ? I am building the Mk1 DC and Chet is going to build the Mk1 AC. I also have to finish the Mk3, Mk4 designs before I can begin on the Mk5 which is quite a different kettle of fish altogether!

Any questions just ask,

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There are a handful of folks here interested in your offering. Some may be confused regarding exactly how your devices will solve the energy crisis. Maybe the answer is buried somewhere in one of your posted texts.

Anyway we support you in your efforts, some here are interested.

BTW...nice drawings, and thanks for the videos.
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You cannot solve a manufactured energy crisis, what you can do is become the manufacturer of your energy processing and thus remove control from those that would restrict it's availability creating a shortage to maximise profit.

Rob.

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Hopefully this should clear up some confusion.

The Mk 1 AC and DC versions were designed with off the shelf components to run on electricity so that you can accurately and easily measure your energy input. Now you can change variables within the system and accurately see the efficiency change at the output. It is a test rig basically allowing you to maximise the systems efficiency without expensive measuring equipment and specialist hired help.

The Mk 2 removes the problem of the housing being live with the integration of an AC induction heater, an additional benefit is the removal of the possibility of any AC or DC electrolysis taking place which would damage the structural integrity of the pressure housing, improving safety. I was also able to streamline the design into an inline version which is more efficient, compact and easier to build. this is also a test rig for analysing the efficiency of the system. Of course the electrically powered versions have their own merit but they are a stepping stone to the Mk 3.

The Mk 3 is designed to be run from an open fire, just like a camp stove, using the water sleeve boiler and chimney flow principles similar to the kelly kettle design. This is a stepping stone to the Mk 4 which is where we want to get to...

The Mk 4 incorporates everything we have learned so far and improves the Mk 3 design by integrating a gasifier in place of the open fire. This does two things, it allows the radiant heat from the pyrolysis chamber to be recycled in the same way as the earlier designs heating a water sleeve chamber and also creates a secondary output from the combustible gases. When the combustible gases are burnt through a clean burning nozzle we can now power a second Pulsometer with the heat produced from the flame.

The Mk 5 gets really interesting because we do not have to burn the combustible gases like in the Mk 4, but we can detonate them which changes the rate of energy release to create a shockwave. The heat energy will still be recoverable in the same way as burning the gases but we have gained an additional output in the form of the shockwave which is capable of doing work itself. Now we have potentially 3 power outputs from one fuel source, all doing work. No rules violated at all, just efficient use of all the potential outputs available via manipulation of the rate of energy release and efficient energy recycling within the system.

The basic function of the Pulsometer is to use a heat source to pump water, and we know from the historical record the use of these pumps was in draining mine shafts. This needed a high volume mass flow rate at relatively low pressure but it was able to pump this amount of water to a high head relative to the gravitational field. If we were to integrate the pump into an eco dome structure that provided both housing and a growing environment for crops we would have personal control of all a humans survival needs as long as we had a heat source to run it, which would encourage mass replanting of forests in your local habitat.

So the fuel would be used to create heat, which would run the steam pump. A heat exchanger at the same gravitational potential as the pump would extract and recycle the heat for the system before the water is pumped up to storage tank high above at the centre of the enclosure. This water can then be easily controlled with a flow control valve to run a small water wheel turbine providing AC electricity form the generator, and also DC via rectification. If the system was charged with potable water it would be drinking and irrigation quality, and water purified by distillation in the steam process would replace any water used for survival. You can remove as much water as you like form the system as long as the rate matches the distillation rate it is being produced, a simple sizing issue.

If done correctly you will have drinking water, irrigation for crop growing, a water pump that runs from a heat source, heating and electricity. As long as you have fuel you control everything you need to survive. Eco cities as opposed to concrete jungles. Of course you can also integrate the system into your house in the short term by using a heat exchanger plate for your central heating radiator system, maintaining the purity of the steam produced for drinking, and a water storage tank in the attic to run the gravity feed for the turbine producing electricity. It is an extremely versatile system that you control and you can build and maintain yourself.

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Thanks for expanding on the various models and explanations of operation. you seem to have an extensive knowledge of hydraulic engineering. Was this your field of interest? How did you get started in this direction?


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The explanation of the models applies to the Pulsometer device development tree and some general theory, the system it is integrated into will be expanded on next, and that is really the secret you are looking for that is buried in my work. Not got time now but I will see if I can get it done before I go to bed.

My knowledge is my knowledge, no way to measure it really. If you ask someone with lot's of qualifications on a big fat paycheck they will probably say I don't know what I am talking about, but note they don't say that to me. If you can back up what you say with facts and references that is generally a good benchmark to judge someones knowledge. I have heard it said that the smart man is not someone who knows everything but one who knows where to find the answer.

Wait for my next post, I think you will like it...

Rob   ;)


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The explanation of the models applies to the Pulsometer device development tree and some general theory, the system it is integrated into will be expanded on next, and that is really the secret you are looking for that is buried in my work. Not got time now but I will see if I can get it done before I go to bed.

My knowledge is my knowledge, no way to measure it really. If you ask someone with lot's of qualifications on a big fat paycheck they will probably say I don't know what I am talking about, but note they don't say that to me. If you can back up what you say with facts and references that is generally a good benchmark to judge someones knowledge. I have heard it said that the smart man is not someone who knows everything but one who knows where to find the answer.

Wait for my next post, I think you will like it...

Rob   ;)

Regarding your last paragraph, I know exactly what you mean, and agree fully.

Looking forward to your next post.
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Lets cut things down to the basics, real simplistic analysis.

How does a car engine work ?

Fuel (Energy In) > Power > Heat (waste)

Heat is classed as waste because it is not doing work as Power, but it is doing work on the medium surrounding it, so only the Power efficiency is measured. However in truth, the engine is 100% efficient, a certain percentage to Power, and a certain percentage to waste Heat, typically a 20 / 80 split.

How does a turbine work ?

Fuel (Energy In) > Power > Heat (waste)

Heat is classed as waste because it is not doing work as Power, but it is doing work on the medium surrounding it, so only the Power efficiency is measured. However in truth, the turbine is 100% efficient, a certain percentage to Power, and a certain percentage to waste Heat, typically a 35 / 65 split.

Now let's look at the typical energy setup of your home.

There are two major Energy In types to your home:

The central heating system typically runs on natural gas which is the fuel piped into your home, this is burnt in the boiler and heats water in the radiator heat exchangers, which do work on the ambient air. 100% of the fuel is tasked to do work as Heat.

The Electrical Power system is generated at a centralised location and piped into your home, is utilised by devices that consume Power, and produce waste Heat. Alternatively a device such as an electric fire is tasked to convert 100% of it's electrical input energy to do work as Heat.

What should be obvious is that an engine or a turbine produces both Power and Heat, but in your house supply you get the choice of one or the other, or the choice to convert one into the other. What you do not get is both from the same device, powered with a single fuel. This is key to understand, you need an engine and you need a fuel supply you control and process to control the Power and Heat functions simultaneously.

So let's look at the Pulsometer system.

I have already shown how the Pulsometer can be run from any Heat source, because it is based around a static head of steam pressure. This creates the opportunity for a modular design to run a Pulsometer from any source of fuel you can lay your hands on, even plastic gasification etc.

The Pulsometer does two things:

It generates a reciprocal self resetting Power stroke, operating on pneumatic and hydraulic principles.

It transports Heat through Specific Heat physics principles around a hydraulic system.

So the Pulsometer can be classed as a Heat engine, as it has a self governing operating cycle, that self resets, and drives a fluid piston that can do work. A heat exchanger at the same gravitational potential as the pump will transfer both Specific and Latent Heat energy with only friction losses to overcome. Once the Heat has been recycled to the feedwater the Power stroke can be used to do work within the gravitational field and pump the fluid up to an overhead tank. This fluid can then be released through a flow control valve to a nozzle that drives a turbine generating a rotary moment that drives a generator for AC power.

As you can see the Pulsometer system is designed to utilise 100% of the fuel to do work, but in a unique way because 100% of the fuel is dedicated to Power output and 100% of the fuel is dedicated to Heat exchange. Both properties doing work independently of each other.

If you understand that then this should make sense:

http://www.worcester-bosch.co.uk/homeowner/boilers/gas-boilers/greenstar-25si

A standard natural gas powered combi condensing boiler, 90.1% efficient, note the net temperature rise never gets anywhere near 100C because then you are entering the Power phase and this boiler only provides Heat for your radiator network exchanger system. 24kW output of Heat.

http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/wood_burning_stoves/Woodfire-RS-series-insert-stoves.html

The RS24 outputs 23kW of Heat. It is just one of many boiler stoves I could have picked and can be seamlessly integrated into your radiator central heating system via a heat exchanger plate keeping the pure water supply from the contaminated radiator water supply.

Hopefully now you can see that what I am proposing, and have designed, is not only viable but is done already to high levels of engineering excellence in isolation. By combining the correct technologies, with the correct principles of operation, in the correct way I will be able to take ANY Fuel and generate Heat, which will create a static head of steam pressure, which will generate a Power stroke in the pump, which will then transport Heat around the Exchanger, which will then store the now ambient temperature mass of water in the gravitational field, which will be released to drive a turbine generating electricity. I will be able to do all this without a single electronic component (except for the AC generator) by using pressure differentials to automatically govern the system.

I can combine both the power station and the heating station into one device that you control, can build yourself from off the shelf easily available cheap components, and will run on any fuel or heat source of your choice with modular multi fuel flexibility depending on availability.

Why do I need to solve a manufactured energy crisis when I can bypass it completely ? Just cut them off...

Imagine Power and Heat that you never pay a $ for, not to mention water purification by steam distillation as a bonus...

Safety is built in as well but I am tired now so cover that another time, but I will say the Snapvalve piston design does everything, regulation, power and safety...

Rob  :-X


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We share the same vision,I would say we work towards the same goal.
One thing I have been working on over the last year or so is that Heat Source [will be starting up on that again next week].

I look forward with great anticipation to building your device and running demonstrations !!

 also looking forward to bringing this tech to people who can use it the most.which will give me some "face time" with the charity groups and other Orgs. that I hope will get on board with subsidizing men like yourself and others here who work towards this same goal.

I qm setting up a wee Machine Shop in the next few weeks here specifically to work on some of your Techs .
 should have it up and running by the time your ready to ship .

thank you!
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http://www.baxi.co.uk/products/2137/

Hi Rob

only just seen this, very interesting, one of my old stamping grounds back in the 80's when I developed a mains pressure hot water system that did not need all the special safty systems and special installers. I won the best inovative design of the year at the international building exhibition at Birmingham NEC in 1989, it was on the Newman Tonks PLC stand whom were distributors for this. A long story of the start of my downfall through devious PLC's, banks and governments. >:(

Your hho pulser is interesting and could be designed into an engine to power a generator, could it become OU? I'm sure it could if the water splitting is done in a certain way O0

best regards

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The system is modular so you could build many hho pulser's into a manifold and stagger the timing, but it's not for a traditional engine, it's for a hydraulic turbine. A water wheel operating at 85% + efficiency is the rotor that drives the alternator.

The SP has the coil acting as an input, creating heat and a static head of steam pressure. Two dump valves are necessary to trigger the process and do work. shhop inverts some aspects of the process, losing a dump valve on the way, and potentially using the snapvalve as a primary trigger achieving self regulation via system pressure differentials. The electrical switch and circuit built into the snapvalve governer system may prove totally unnecessary, but fun.

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Your hho pulser is interesting and could be designed into an engine to power a generator, could it become OU? I'm sure it could if the water splitting is done in a certain way O0

The hhop and the Supersonic Pulsometer can be combined into numerous versions of shhop.

Electricity into a hho cell can produce both hho and steam, as long as there is enough H and O floating around in the steam then there is potentially enough to cause a recombination event via a spark. Due to an artifact of how I build my cells there are often little pools of water at the fitting joins that are not displaced out of the pump outlet, but are displaced when the relative vacuum is created in the cell as well as natural surface vaporisation of the water due to the sudden drop in pressure. These water droplets should condense the steam component of the gas and I think of it as splash condensation, similar principle to splash lubrication in an ICE.

When it comes to OU neither approach alone will achieve this in my opinion. What I am seeking to do is combine fluid dynamics and quantum electrodynamics into a single device. I intend to do this by placing a coil around the cell and have a linear piston core that is first displaced by positive pressure and then returned to starting position via the vacuum created, so it oscillates through the core, at the same time the hho recombination occurs and potentially generates an electromagnetic field pulse. Need more parts before I can build that prototype but not too far to go now!



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Some may be confused regarding exactly how your devices will solve the energy crisis. Maybe the answer is buried somewhere in one of your posted texts.

Just for fun.. 8)

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