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Author Topic: Wesley news #2 Wesley succesfully performs his TK test in a remote location  (Read 120228 times)

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Thanks GL, got it.

Seems that he made modes to the circuit, but basicly the same

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Dear All.

Would this work ??

Cheers Graham.

çGrum, I will have to think about this one, the square wave gen, what it might be!!

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çGrum, I will have to think about this one, the square wave gen, what it might be!!

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Mike,

The block in the circuit diagram marked "G" is like this attachment.

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Mike,

The block in the circuit diagram marked "G" is like this attachment.

GL

Are you sure about that? where did you get the circuit from?

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GL

I will have to look at that more, using a PWM control chip of this standard in relation to the circuit posted, hmmm

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Are you sure about that? where did you get the circuit from?

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Mike,

He did post this circuit in his former 30 Watt circuit drawing on a Russian forum.
Then he posted the 60 and 80 Watt version. He was probably lazy and did use the
same oscillator (as I posted) in the new version, but on the new version drawing he
did just draw a block "G" to show the oscillator. The AUX in my drawing was
not used in the 30 Watt version. But in the 60 and 80 Watt version he added a
transistor and did use the AUX to drive that transistor. All three versions attached.
Also attached the coil design he uses.

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Wesley has translated the new Guys Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n22MNKrusA&feature=youtu.be

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Dear All.

This cropped up on OU.Com.

Groundloop here are your component values !!  :)

But no coil data other than the fact that it looks to have similarities to Otto !!  ;)

Cheers Grum.


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Dear All.

A slightly cleaner view !! :)

Cheers Grum.


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Dear All.

A slightly cleaner view !! :)

Cheers Grum.

Grum,

Thanks. :-)

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Dear All.

This cropped up on OU.Com.

Groundloop here are your component values !!  :)

But no coil data other than the fact that it looks to have similarities to Otto !!  ;)

Cheers Grum.

Grum,

The coil drawing in your first picture differs from the coils in the video.
It will be impossible to replicate this circuit without any information on what the coil design are.

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Grum,

The coil drawing in your first picture differs from the coils in the video.
It will be impossible to replicate this circuit without any information on what the coil design are.

GL.

Yes I must agree, L1 is not @ 90 degrees I think or he would have shown this another way. To run L1 as the core in 4 parts connected in series just makes no sense to me

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I understand that L1 is a copper or aluminium tape like coil with 4 turns on a 12 cm former.
90 degrees on that are wrapped L2 and L3 normal wire coils.

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I understand that L1 is a copper or aluminium tape like coil with 4 turns on a 12 cm former.
90 degrees on that are wrapped L2 and L3 normal wire coils.

Regards Itsu

Then this is á la SM as people "envisage" with a core coil, the four individual coils in the diagram meant to depict the four turns!

I really do think there is a lot of misinformation going on. Where did the idea of the core in the SM tpu's come from to start with? somebody's idea that it has to be like that to get rotation? it's been going on for years and years about this core coil, was it SM who said it was like that?

I'm open to anything "if" there is a strong support argument O0

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P S.  I personally am in favour by 80:20 of multiple frequency induction, possibly in the low audio range (bass sub hearing level), which is why the SM tpu vibrated. Well wasn't SM a speaker specialist? begs to think more of the man's background and how he stumbled onto this, think about what I posted on crowd control weapon, timing, dates etc!!!!


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well, I think it is simple to grasp now...however not simple to make working device  :-X
it's all about generating radio waves but not letting them to escape but catch and use to rise current
ever heard about a simple wire sparking on itself (end to end) nearby the radio transmitter ?  :D
   

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Dear All.

Yes, there definitively is an error between the two schematics shown, however a close scrutiny of the video pictures and the diameter given in that hand drawn schematic should give enough clues to wind the coil !!

I have attached a PDF of Otto's work and I see a close resemblance !! I even managed to successfully replicate the coil kick from page 9.

From that, I carried out further tests with a Torroidal transformer. I used a 12/12 to 240 V off the shelf transformer. I attached the output from a 12 V to 240 V cheapo inverter, the live to the start of one 12 v leg and the neutral to its opposite 12 v leg. Leaving open ends.
In other words, there was no closed circuit. I then attached a FWBR to the 240 v winding and was surprised to see a capacitor on the DC side charge up readily !!  This situation did not occur with a sinus signal but the effect was seen, if driven by the square wave output from the inverter.

In short, noise can make voltage !!  I think Mag's has also been looking at this phenomenon too. Using a higher frequency than mine??

Cheers Grum.



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Translates Vasmus   Number 8

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I toke a shot at this Akula 1W selfrunner circuit.

I know there are a lot of unknowns like transistors/diodes used and more important the construction of the 3 way coil.

At the end of the video there you can see how i think the coil could have been made.

Transistors/diodes used up till now:

NPN:  2N3055
      2n2222a
      mje13009
      mje3055
      mje13007

PNP:  bc557
      2n5401
      2n2905

diodes: UF4007
        1n4004
        1n4148
    
The R1 resistor is shown as 56K, but in other diagrams (see further back in this thread), it is shown as 100Ohm. I tried both.    

There are no oscillations going when feeding with 3V, also quick switching on/off does not trigger anything special.

Video here:  http://youtu.be/BdiTVJXMVTI

Perhaps i will have to redo the coil, putting more turns for L1 (like 4x 5 turns) to get the frequency down as it now resonates around 2.9MHz

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thank you for sharing your efforts here.

your Youtube link does not go thru.

Thx
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Heh heh I see Grumage same request  30 secs later
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Dear Itsu.

I can't seem to open the link to your video.

Could you try re posting the link please??

Cheers Grum.

BTW. A little bird told me the device runs around 1.7 MHz !!  ;)


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Sorry guys, not sure what happened, but it should be corrected now.

Yes, i saw that frequency mentioned before (1.7MHz), so that's perhaps something to tune for.
Any chance that little bird can tell us more?

I contacted Akula on an Email address i had, but after 3 days no reponse, so no little bird overhere   ;D

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Sorry guys, not sure what happened, but it should be corrected now.

Yes, i saw that frequency mentioned before (1.7MHz), so that's perhaps something to tune for.
Any chance that little bird can tell us more?

I contacted Akula on an Email address i had, but after 3 days no reponse, so no little bird overhere   ;D

Regards Itsu

Itsu,

I did see your video, great work. But I think that you should try
a coil more like the one in the videos. The coils are wound ALL the same
direction. There are 4 coils outside the 2 inner coils. The 4 coils are
connected in series.

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Itsu,

I did see your video, great work. But I think that you should try
a coil more like the one in the videos. The coils are wound ALL the same
direction. There are 4 coils outside the 2 inner coils. The 4 coils are
connected in series.

GL.

Hi Groundloop,

thanks for the comment, you could be right, but are you sure?
I mean, look at the drawing, does it not show that L1 is 90 degrees of from L2/L3?

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Dear Itsu.

IMO the coils are miss identified !! I think that L1 and L3 are inverted.  I wonder if the single ended coil that is wound around the circumference of the former acts as an antenna? Possibly to a length or fraction thereof of the wavelength of the frequency ??

I really do commend you for your work, I wish I was better at the electronic stuff !!

Cheers Grum.


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Dear Itsu.

IMO the coils are miss identified !! I think that L1 and L3 are inverted.  I wonder if the single ended coil that is wound around the circumference of the former acts as an antenna? Possibly to a length or fraction thereof of the wavelength of the frequency ??

I really do commend you for your work, I wish I was better at the electronic stuff !!

Cheers Grum.

Hi Grum,

i am not sure i can follow you, what do you mean by "inverted"?
L3 is the single ended coil, so it can not be swapped (inverted?) by the L1 coil  :o

L3 is what i call the feedback coil and it will trigger the NPN transistor.

These pictures are similar as the hand drawn circuit (contains the 100 Ohm instead of 56K R4) and depicts the L1 coil as Groundloop suggests:

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