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I was watching Russ Gries & John Hutchinson play with a 1n4749 diode and how it was picking up a few mA. I made a quick radiant collector using these diodes instead of germaniums and it charges up pretty quickly to 2v without an aerial or ground in the sunlight. Is there any thoughts on these sorts of diodes efficiency vs solar panels?
   

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Also if I hook up a single diode in full sunlight to the dmm I get 410mv If I make an av plug with the same diodes it climbs steadily but maxes out at 820mv in full sunlight. What the...? I would have thought it would have kept filling the electrolytic caps.
   

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aaah ok , thanks. That makes sense. Just used to charging caps on pulse gens
   
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Aha !
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I've been down this route and enjoyed it immensely. Yep, diodes do it, a cut open old metal type 2N3055 and such will also do it.
EPROMs from 1970's test equipment or old arcade games are particularly good. I have 2 sets of 2 EPROMs on my kitchen window sill, that power blocking oscillators with LEDs on. They've run for a year now and look a bit different...work great.

A large 60x 1N4148 panel didn't quite do what I expected. It topped out at about 16V and the current was mere uA. But it did work, all in series. Looking at Matts post, that's about the finding, but only ever tried it with the 1N4148 type.
Apparently, leaving a diode perfectly still for about a year allows it to 'bring in' some surprising voltage and current. Presumably the test leads are soldered on and taped down etc. Never tried it and i've no idea of the source now to link to.

Related, in a way are LEDs and their power generating. Greens seem to work best, typically bringing in 2V and, I think, 100uA or so. Enough to drive the same sort of oscillator anyway (Lidmotor Penny type of circuit).
Another thing is to heat LEDs while they are in the sun. The power throughput goes up.



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Thanks Wallace I think I'll makes a panel from these zeners. Use it to charge a battery that powers my front gate light. Maybe put a joule their in between. I'll have to do some more research, I'd like to understand this phenomena more and how it differs toPVs
   
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Who was it that proposed taking the top off a transistor, exposing the semiconductor within and using that?

I tried, ruined a couple of good transistors and then desisted.
   
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It's worth doing Gromit..if you have plenty of anything silicon that can see light.

Paul - Rimstar has a decent video on transistor energy scavenging...runs a calculator on a few opened transistors in this video:

[youtube]2bUc8RqSFXs[/youtube]


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Just a thought....

Yes, almost any P/N junction exposed to light will produce a current. You may wish to also look into thermionic generators using the same solid state device.

Perhaps you can make it run double-duty as a photo-voltaic and thermionic generator  :o

My games with decapitated transistors proved you could get a couple of watts with the right light exposure and transfer of heat from emitter to collector.

   
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