Pulsed / Radiant Energy > Gray's Devices

Observing emanations of the Sparkus Gappus

(1/2) > >>



I would like share here some theory and experiments related to spark gap.
In my opinion this is most promising "low tech" (home brew) approach to get practical FE.

Below a few selected quotes of legendary member Ded Ivan (grandpa Ivan) from www.skif.biz forum (translated)

--- Quote ---Source: https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=96361#96361
dedivan | Post: 96361 - Date: 13.01.08 (08:27)
«FEME Post: 96357 От 13.Jan.2008 (09:40)
Is it interesting to academics? They're “grown-up children”.

Well, yes. And we just adults. And problems we have are more boring.
Therefore, we need to be closer to practice. And in practice, here what we have.
Energy achievable in a spark on a “table installation” - 100 mJ
without the involvement of the special measures for extreme HV installations.
This corresponds to 10 kV and 1 kA.
For real 30 kHz per second discharge gap we get 30,000 sparks or 3000 joules.
This equal to power of 3 kW.
If we recall that Tesla had in his black box 12 tubes (which is usually misunderstood as electronic
tubes) Than the power of such setup will be 36 kilowatts, or 50 horsepower,that closely matches the
power of the engine on Tesla’s car.
Perhaps easier to make a high-frequency spark gap? Or more powerful?
Higher frequency gap can not be achieved because of the inertia of the gas properties.
It takes time for the restoration of ionized molecules. The smaller the discharge gap, the faster the
recovery, but less than the rate of multiplication of electrons in the avalanche,and therefore less
But the more powerful is possible. But the overall power gain will not be achieved, since such a gap will have
more inertia, and will decrease the pulse frequency.
Apparently this is the best option since the time of Tesla.
And for the car and for home - average power consumption for heating and all the other needs just
in order of 20-30 kW.
Although when you consider that for providing house electricity is enough power 3-5 kW,
and for an electric vehicle with storage batteries and recovery system also enough 5 kW, version
with 2 spark gaps will be in demand.

--- End quote ---

Source: https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=96341#96341

--- Quote ---dedivan | Post: 96341 - Date: 12.01.08 (23:35)
Physicists are now seen avalanche process like this. And recognize that the current is high and that
it is not closed at this time,i.e. power supply does not waste power to make this current, but about
the power they modestly keep quiet. Otherwise you'll have to explain where it come from, but
IMHO without ether there no explanation.
pic14.1 Electron avalanche (see attached)
a – siplified shape and charge distribution in the electron avalanche in two successive points of
time; arrows indicate the direction of the external field E 0 and the movement velocity V m of the
avalanche head.
б – Avalanche photo in a cloud chamber (CO 2 gas, P = 150torr, horizontal strip – electrodes,
spacing L = 3.6sm, voltage pulse duration 250ns )

--- End quote ---

Translator note: picture from the book “Gas discharge physics” by Yuri Petrovich Raiser, page 420
can be downloaded e.g. from here http://energy.bmstu.ru/e08/bibl.php (language: Russian)

Source: https://skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=97287#97287

--- Quote ---dedivan | Post: 97287 - Date: 20.01.08 (05:43)
The first two drawings - theory, but the third is a picture, it is a fact.
It can be seen here that the avalanche begins from one seed electron, it is only on it power supply
waste energy.
And until such time as the avalanche did not reach the anode current is not closed.
How source spending its energy on avalanche movement?
This is similar to when the grandson sees me on the street and runs to me
with acceleration, yelling - “granpaaa”. How I am spending energy on its acceleration?
And in the spark gap we can calculate speed that should be acquired by electron in an electric field.
Only here the measurements show that the speed is several times higher.
And this is how you want to count on any math- additional energy, excess energy to the electric
field source.
And the explanation in the official physics is - reflex positive charge is formed in the metal anode.
So it added accelerates electrons.
But since this is very much in contrary to the interpretation adopted by the law of energy
conservation, physics keeps carefully silent energy side of this phenomenon.
Without the use of ether, and the internal energy of the ether is not possible here explain the
appearance of additional energy. And since there is no such thing like ether, is better not try make
any explanations.
Let's try from the point of view of mathematics. Look again at the picture, let the motion of
electrons from the cathode to the anode source spends its energy, but note avalanche that extended
even across the field, and this movement in all canons of mathematics no longer has to do with the
source of energy, precisely because it is perpendicular to the field vector.
This movement creates a transverse electromagnetic wave, like a drop falling into the water.
That's it, and we catch it with a current transformer. And because of this wave vector is transverse to
the vector of source field,we have the energy independence of the wave energy from the original
electric field.

--- End quote ---

Source: https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=97288#97288

--- Quote ---dedivan | Post: 97288 - Date: 20.01.08 (05:57)
Another note to the avalanche photo from the book. Please note that this photo is the discharge in
carbon dioxide. It is electronegative gas, i.e. it captures most of the avalanche of electrons, not
giving them greatly multiply. But there are also other gases that do not trap electrons,
such as nitrogen and helium. But if to take photos in them, there would be no such
beautiful pictures and would be a picture of very wide avalanche.
From the biography of Tesla – he was watching the birth of a snow avalanche
from snowball thrown from the mountain, determined the direction of his thoughts.
This transverse expansion of avalanches are most surprised him.

--- End quote ---


[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

Go to full version