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No, neutralization is a minor componet compared to Lenz.

I would agree and I have done many similar experiments. Balancing two magnets in attraction with two in repulsion, balanced PM switched reluctance motors and switched electromagnet neutralization allowing the magnet to freewheel past register.

Lenz is the issue in my opinion as well and the more power generated the more current/stronger magnetic field and resistance to motion. It is the same effect as when we drop a PM down a copper pipe producing eddy currents. Our output coil is basically a current loop/eddy current generator just like our copper pipe. After all these years it still amazes me how much resistance a conductive copper pipe or plate can produce on a moving magnet. The braking force is massive which explains why it becomes so hard to turn a generator under load.

You may like this... a while back I built a switched current generator which was specifically designed to inhibit Lenz law. That is, if large output currents produce a large magnetic field and this produces a large eddy current like braking force then my control circuit should stop the induced current the moment it is produced. However Power is Volts times Amps so less current means less power but it also means less braking force.

So my Arduino circuit controller used an MPPT (Maximum Power Point Tracking) algorithm to track the point where the "least current" produced the most output power while also requiring the least input power. Which makes it an "efficiency tracker" finding the single point where Lenz Law applies the least... pretty neat stuff. I think we all wish we had more time to pursue different idea's and we should make the time if we can.

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Which makes it an "efficiency tracker" finding the single point
where Lenz Law applies the least...

With high speed switching circuitry such things are possible.

I've often wondered about using a Pulse Width Modulation
circuit to accomplish a similar result.  Similar to how Pure
Sine Wave Inverters operate but with an opposite pulsing
scheme:  maximum pulse width near zero crossings and
minimum pulse width at the voltage peaks to create a voltage
and current relationship similar to a Negative Resistance..

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I think we all wish we had more time to pursue different idea's
and we should make the time if we can.

Couldn't agree more!  Maybe in our next lives we'll all have
all the time we would like to have for experimentation and
tinkering.

Regarding this input to The Conversation which shifts around,
I'm always puzzled when people speak of possible "violations
of the laws" which describe electrical and electromagnetic
phenomena.

The "Laws" are simply observations which do not limit
potential (possible) performance.  There is still much that
we do not know.

Tesla, when conducting his experiments in Colorado, made
an important discovery relating to the vast amount of electrical
energy that exists within Planet Earth's atmosphere courtesy
of our Sun.  There are several very old patents which describe
methods of extracting electrical energy from the atmospheric
electrical capacitor.  It is surprising that this concept hasn't
been exploited on a large scale.

But then again, maybe not so surprising.  Tesla's Tower in
Long Island was demolished to prevent such an eventuality
early in the last century.  Someone was concerned.
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Here is a web page that Experimenters and Tinkerers should
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Regarding this input to The Conversation which shifts around,
I'm always puzzled when people speak of possible "violations
of the laws" which describe electrical and electromagnetic
phenomena.

The "Laws" are simply observations which do not limit
potential (possible) performance.  There is still much that
we do not know.

Most all of "the laws" are simply a statement of the obvious within a narrow context. For example, if I'm holding an apple and let go it falls and the force causing the apple to fall is called gravity. However it never mentions "what" gravity is only what it normally does under certain conditions. The law of gravity does not actually state that gravity cannot be manipulated or negated only what it normally does. Do you see how that works?, yet many people read more into it than is present. They say gravity always applies which is not true but more so an opinion based on ignorance because they do not know if it always applies or not. Thus while any given law may be objective within a narrow context it can also be subjective if one knew what gravity is in reality and how to manipulate it. It always relates to intelligence, knowledge and understanding.

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Here is a web page that Experimenters and Tinkerers should
find extremely interesting.

  Many thanks for the site. There, I found a link to old mags and in one issue I found the signal gen perfect for the job at hand. The beauty of it is, it also has the option of a single shot pulse too. Now if I can figure out what is the best value for a cap to capture the fly back of a coil most efficiently, I will be ready to test a theory I have.

Will be contacting the site owner and thanking him personally for all he is sharing there.


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AC,

You've said it very well indeed!


Thay,

You're welcome and thanks to you for providing the site
owner some very positive feedback.

Our World is controlled by some very bad people but
at the same time there are many really good people
who delight in doing what is good.


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A bit of an " eye opener "  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK-6V-jOH0


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Interesting video however the real climate data does not support these theories. I like his mantra though... "it's not our fault" however as many times as he repeats it it's still on us. 95% of the fish in the oceans gone and the rest collapsing and being replaced by plastic is on us. The massive amounts of pollutants in the air, water and soil is on us, the wildlife, fish and plant life dying all around us is on us, all the blame does not fall on a "solar cycle", that's rubbish.

The picture below is India this week and if we keep this adolescent behavior up this is what all our neighborhoods will look like in the future. A picture is worth a thousand words isn't it?.

You see, for all the nonsense being peddled on social media how this is not our fault the cold hard facts on the ground do not lie. Everything is becoming more and more toxic and more and more things are dying because of our actions. It's not CO2 and solar cycles, those are simply toys for the simple minded to play with and distract them from the facts. I mean it is so utterly ridiculous and so far removed from the truth I have to assume it can only be a form of mental illness.

A mental illness... not unlike the coal miners inhaling black death laced with heavy metals day after day. Then they would drag it home killing there own family, there own innocent children, day after day making any excuse not to acknowledge what they have done. In the end does it matter what they believe?, does it matter?, because they have killed themselves and their own family out of ignorance. Even as there children's hair and teeth were falling out, even as they were being consumed by cancer these men, and I use this term liberally, would tell us nothing is wrong and they have done no wrong. You have to ask yourself, what "kind of man" would do this to their own family?... I do not think you will like the answer.

Grumage, the only eye opener is that you would fall for the oldest sales pitch in the book by some slick talking salesman. However I get it and like you I am old, it's just that I don't listen to old people who have nothing left to lose with death at their doorstep I listen to young people who have everything to lose. It is a matter of credibility in my mind and the only person we should trust is the one who has everything to lose... do you understand?.

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So your opinion now is fact? I'm glad you know all this so you can teach us how to be good little socialists and communists, I know those young kids are so wise and all knowing with tons of experience from their liberal schooling they can now lead the way for us stupid old people who have no experience and no knowledge of anything important.  All we do is destroy the world by eating and surviving if we really cared we would lay down and die so these brilliant young people can take over and save the world... Do you ever listen to yourself, keep watching CNN and MSNBC etc. so you are up on all the latest news and information we wouldn't want you to be lied to. I just know it's going to save us all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5ZjU7ka9A



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Eye opener indeed!!  Learning TRUTH is a wonderful thing.

Whenever we evaluate conditions upon Planet Earth we
must determine what is the most powerful and predominant
source of energy.  Our Sun is very well designed for its job.

To AC's list of pollutants we must also include Killer Drugs and
Agricultural Chemicals.  The harms we're inflicting upon life on
our Planet are inexcusable.  Unfortunately, these "solutions" which
are killing life on our Planet are thrust upon us by government
regulations and policies.  The People have too little choice.

But who is ultimately responsible?  It is not the lowly People.
It is the Money Sucking International Conglomerated Massive
Corporations controlled by Evil People who are small in number
but who are able to force practices to suit their purposes and
to limit the choices available to the lowly People.

Follow the Money and yes, the Insanity.  They are Sociopath.

All of what is presently happening on Planet Earth has been foretold.
Change is coming.  First the Change to eliminate all that is Bad which
is characterized by all of the chaos and turmoil we are feeling.

This will be followed by the Change which will Restore Good to the
Planet.  Our lives here on this Planet are really just beginning.  We
are learning necessary lessons to never again be tempted to do
what is bad.
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Room,

Poignant Link.  Many thanks!

To expand upon the theme is Dr. Pieczenik who reveals inside "skinny."
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So your opinion now is fact? I'm glad you know all this so you can teach us how to be good little socialists and communists, I know those young kids are so wise and all knowing with tons of experience from their liberal schooling they can now lead the way for us stupid old people who have no experience and no knowledge of anything important.  All we do is destroy the world by eating and surviving if we really cared we would lay down and die so these brilliant young people can take over and save the world... Do you ever listen to yourself, keep watching CNN and MSNBC etc. so you are up on all the latest news and information we wouldn't want you to be lied to. I just know it's going to save us all.

Ah... the political us versus them card.

However there is no "them" there is only "us" when we look at the planet as a whole and it is our collective problem. As well it should be obvious that the younger generation could not have created this fiasco because they weren't even around twenty years ago. So yes we did this because we were the only one's present who had the capacity to do it.. who else could it be?.

Your also pushing the typical fake media card which is nonsensical and getting old. In fact every form of media everywhere on the planet has very real concerns with increasing levels of pollution. Even Fox news claims we have a very real problem...https://www.foxnews.com/category/science/planet-earth/pollution. Are all the right wing media outlets good little socialists catering to our kids as well?.

What I am claiming is that we are responsible for creating this toxic mess, it is a scientific fact every responsible adult agree's on and we have a responsibility to do something rather than deny it's a problem. As well the reason I said what I did was because from my personal experience the only demographic which seems to be in complete denial that pollution is a very real problem is older males with a vested interest in the fossil fuel industry or maintaining the status quo.

Personally I think it drives them crazy that they cannot push there CO2 is good for plants and climate change is natural false narrative any longer. The problem has become too big and in our face for anyone to deny it any longer.
Do you ever listen to yourself?, I show you a picture of a city bathed in toxic smog and you get triggered going on some rant about socialism and CNN?.

Look, mistakes were made, we made them, we own them and now we should be the one's coming up with solutions not denying we have a problem. The only relevant question is what solutions do we have which can solve our problems and right our wrongs.

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I would also like to address this offensive false narrative... "So your opinion now is fact? I'm glad you know all this so you can teach us how to be good little socialists and communists".

First, when I say we have a very real problem with pollution I am stating a fact not an opinion...period.

Second, when I say we have a collective problem with pollution which needs a solution I am referring to Free Energy which is why I would hope we are here. With clean, sustainable free energy comes true freedom and independence from being at the mercy of paying for utilities/fossil fuels and generating pollution. In fact this is the polar opposite of socialism and anyone who claims negating pollution with FE is socialist or communist has psychological problems in my opinion. In no rational, responsible world could acknowledging our problems as real and working towards FE be considered socialist... period, end of debate.

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 Politics Religion and Sports

No quicker path to dividing men and causing a ruckus.

Below the Founders here tried to outline this open source Forums goals
and what we do here.
I see no mention anywhere of the above  [Politics Religion or Sports ]

Perhaps we agree on Open source and FE research ??
We have never had better equipment [unbelievably inexpensive and available]
and we don't lack for good ideas [here and elsewhere]

nor the talent and determination [everywhere there is THIRST

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Politics Religion and Sports
No quicker path to dividing men and causing a ruckus.

Agreed, I find it odd that when people start talking about pollution and the environment it always seems to degenerate off topic to socialism and CNN... why?.

I would also point out that pollution/climate change is the impetus which could drive alternative energy sources including Free Energy into the mainstream. Look at the line of reason and why pollution/climate change denier's are also alternative/free energy deniers.

1)Deny pollution and climate change are a problem.
2)If there is no problem then there is no real need or necessity for alternative/free energy.
3)Ergo... we can just keep burning fossil fuels and hold the status quo.

Thus I would submit the pollution/climate change deniers have no real interest in free energy and in most cases are acting against the interests of this forum and it's members. I believe they are pushing a false narrative... "if there are no problems then we do not need solutions" to quietly inhibit the conversations about free energy.

We could ask, where did all the builders go, where did all the real in depth conversations about FE go?. I believe the forums have become littered with paid shills and hacks who wish to disrupt the conversation and part of it revolves around denial we even have a real problem that needs a solution. The next part is also obvious in my opinion and relates to the "oh look a squirrel" phenomena where persons change the topic or spam a conversation with irrelevant links.

These are my observations and I believe they are valid. You have to ask yourself... why after so many years do we not have any real progress and why is it almost impossible to even have an intelligent conversation in the forums any more?.

My suggestion to the real inventors with integrity would be to bypass the forums and start making video's to get the information out.
1)Make video's showing real devices and explain how they work.
2)Make video's explaining a circuit or experiment explaining the concept.
3)Make video's about concepts or theories relating to FE.

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Obviously I hit a nerve there, I would have another suggestion as to who is the real troll or paid shill on this Forum!

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No quicker path to dividing men and causing a ruckus.

Why do men choose to divide and cause a ruckus?

Is it a power and control thing?

Men need not act belligerently.  So, why do they do so?

It is all in the mind.

It is EGO.

It is PRIDE.

We have all been "conditioned" to make stupid choices.

Stupid behavioral choices.  Macho choices.

There is a better way.

AC's observations are correct.  We do all bear some degree
of responsibility for what is Wrong with and what is Bad in our
World.  Some much more-so than others, but we will all
of us be held accountable.

We are all "damaged goods" who fall short of what we
might have been; What we shall become in the future.

Our Earth and its People will be healed.
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Obviously I hit a nerve there, I would have another suggestion as to who is the real troll or paid shill on this Forum!

To be honest I don't think your a paid shill or a troll because you do have constructive input, do not actually troll people from thread to thread and generally do not intend to distract in my opinion.

I do believe you have issues with climate change/pollution for what appears to be political beliefs or a vested interest possibly (rural, farmer, oilfield) however that in no way constitutes a paid shill. The last part of my post was more my thoughts about what I was seeing over at OU.com. No offense but I would consider your criticism to be polite by comparison.

As well my socialism/CNN crack was in response to your post however you would not believe how many times I have heard it from other people. I say "we have a climate change/pollution problem" and the response is "socialism, fake media and Hillary Clinton/Justin Trudeau". Sure I understand the false narrative however it is not substantiated by facts in my opinion nor does it ever address the actual problem.

My issue is this... I know way too many good, honest, hard working, intelligent people I have know since childhood who have bought into what appears to complete and utter bs for reasons I cannot seem to understand. I know this because I can justify everything I say with reason and facts however when I ask them to justify there position they have nothing of substance..."socialism, fake media and Hillary Clinton/Justin Trudeau".

Perhaps you could explain this to me because obviously I'm missing something.

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It is EGO.
It is PRIDE.
We have all been "conditioned" to make stupid choices.
Stupid behavioral choices.  Macho choices.
There is a better way.
AC's observations are correct.  We do all bear some degree
of responsibility for what is Wrong with and what is Bad in our
World.  Some much more-so than others, but we will all
of us be held accountable.

I think you nailed it.
I see this toxic masculinity/psychotic competitiveness thing happening where people refuse to accept they could be wrong about anything verging on insanity. Many people refuse to even debate a matter based on observable facts and logic and reason. We all know where this is coming from, we know, however I'm not going to give anyone the satisfaction of saying it outright.

There is one common truth we all share, when we refuse to acknowledge the facts and that we have a problem we all lose.

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Yes, the world has changed drastically in just these last 5 years.
The quality of life that existed 20 years ago almost seems like a
century ago.

There is a new de- humanizer on the block, it's called technology
And, as we continue to technologically advanced the more anxious
and unsettled we will become. Life was not meant to be run by
computers and robots. Today, when computers stop almost
everything stops along with it. We live in a constant state of
anticipation that prevents us from enjoying the moment and our lives.

Once the computers and robots take the rest of the jobs away our
character and self-esteem will continue to erode as we become
worthless contributors to society.

It's this same technology that will destroy us in the end. The damage
already done to the planet is almost irreversible.

What has been written will come to be and no human being can stop it.

I agree with much of what JG has said.

Technology is a tool in the hands of the few who are able to pull the strings.

Our strings.

Let us hope that Truth will prevail here.  Odds are not looking good.

This is how it is done.
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Ah... the political us versus them card.

However there is no "them" there is only "us" when we look at the planet as a whole and it is our collective problem. As well it should be obvious that the younger generation could not have created this fiasco because they weren't even around twenty years ago. So yes we did this because we were the only one's present who had the capacity to do it.. who else could it be?.

Your also pushing the typical fake media card which is nonsensical and getting old. In fact every form of media everywhere on the planet has very real concerns with increasing levels of pollution. Even Fox news claims we have a very real problem...https://www.foxnews.com/category/science/planet-earth/pollution. Are all the right wing media outlets good little socialists catering to our kids as well?.

What I am claiming is that we are responsible for creating this toxic mess, it is a scientific fact every responsible adult agree's on and we have a responsibility to do something rather than deny it's a problem. As well the reason I said what I did was because from my personal experience the only demographic which seems to be in complete denial that pollution is a very real problem is older males with a vested interest in the fossil fuel industry or maintaining the status quo.

Personally I think it drives them crazy that they cannot push there CO2 is good for plants and climate change is natural false narrative any longer. The problem has become too big and in our face for anyone to deny it any longer.
Do you ever listen to yourself?, I show you a picture of a city bathed in toxic smog and you get triggered going on some rant about socialism and CNN?.

Look, mistakes were made, we made them, we own them and now we should be the one's coming up with solutions not denying we have a problem. The only relevant question is what solutions do we have which can solve our problems and right our wrongs.

Regards

Dear AC,
  Since you are playing nice I will talk with you even though it is not my job to educate you and it takes time away from my work on trying to save the planet.  It's every mans job to educate themselves, unfortunately you have listened to the lies for so long you now believe them to be truth.  When you say friends and family and others you talk to have a different view of things then you, do you ever think that maybe you could be the one who is wrong and they are right?  There is one area of mutual agreement between you and I and that is pollution, we are doing damage to ourselves and we need to control it and try to minimize it.  But the rest of what you think is BS, lets look at so called climate change, are you aware that 500 climate scientists just gave a presentation at the UN saying that there is no climate change occurring on earth, a degree or two of average warming is absolutely nothing compared to the temperatures experienced in the past, as much as 14 degrees hotter then now and much much colder periods called ice ages.

  The world didn't end then nor will it now, what you don't seem to understand is there is an agenda going on to take control of this planet.  That can't be done to an armed populace so first thing is to dumb them down so they don't recognize the fact they are being controlled by lies and big lies, and then freedom of speech must go, can't have the truth being told, then disarm the citizenry under so called gun control so they can't fight back, are you beginning to see the picture.  This is being done by the globalists and new world order people who I don't have to name and cause Peterae problems he don't need here and then in the end one global religion will be implemented by them.

You came back to this site blasting president Trump, for what, he is not what you have been told by your leftist loony liberals this man tells the truth and that you can't seem to wrap your head around.  Leftist liberals wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in the face, they are being led down the garden path by socialists, and as Carl Marks said socialism is the first step toward communism and how has that worked out for the countries that have tried it?  Oh your going to say how about Sweden, well did you know Sweden is actually a capitalist form of government that have implemented some socialist ideas such as health care, probably not.

I'm not pushing some fake media card,  they are FAKE NEWS, they make up stories to trap you into there fake thinking, the main stream media is owned and controlled by like 6 corporations, and I would imagine all controlled somehow by the Soros organization which also owns and controlls the Democratic Socialist Party of America, their official name.  It's not me who believes in lies, if you want to know who is driving this agenda just look at where 90% of all the trouble on Earth is coming from I hardly think I need to name them.

Regards
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PS Pictures don't mean much to me anymore as they can be made to show you anything, for all I know that was just morning fog or photo shopped.


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Dear AC,
  Since you are playing nice I will talk with you even though it is not my job to educate you and it takes time away from my work on trying to save the planet.  It's every mans job to educate themselves, unfortunately you have listened to the lies for so long you now believe them to be truth.  When you say friends and family and others you talk to have a different view of things then you, do you ever think that maybe you could be the one who is wrong and they are right?  There is one area of mutual agreement between you and I and that is pollution, we are doing damage to ourselves and we need to control it and try to minimize it.  But the rest of what you think is BS, lets look at so called climate change, are you aware that 500 climate scientists just gave a presentation at the UN saying that there is no climate change occurring on earth, a degree or two of average warming is absolutely nothing compared to the temperatures experienced in the past, as much as 14 degrees hotter then now and much much colder periods called ice ages.

  The world didn't end then nor will it now, what you don't seem to understand is there is an agenda going on to take control of this planet.  That can't be done to an armed populace so first thing is to dumb them down so they don't recognize the fact they are being controlled by lies and big lies, and then freedom of speech must go, can't have the truth being told, then disarm the citizenry under so called gun control so they can't fight back, are you beginning to see the picture.  This is being done by the globalists and new world order people who I don't have to name and cause Peterae problems he don't need here and then in the end one global religion will be implemented by them.

You came back to this site blasting president Trump, for what, he is not what you have been told by your leftist loony liberals this man tells the truth and that you can't seem to wrap your head around.  Leftist liberals wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in the face, they are being led down the garden path by socialists, and as Carl Marks said socialism is the first step toward communism and how has that worked out for the countries that have tried it?  Oh your going to say how about Sweden, well did you know Sweden is actually a capitalist form of government that have implemented some socialist ideas such as health care, probably not.

I'm not pushing some fake media card,  they are FAKE NEWS, they make up stories to trap you into there fake thinking, the main stream media is owned and controlled by like 6 corporations, and I would imagine all controlled somehow by the Soros organization which also owns and controlls the Democratic Socialist Party of America, their official name.  It's not me who believes in lies, if you want to know who is driving this agenda just look at where 90% of all the trouble on Earth is coming from I hardly think I need to name them.

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The Climate Change camp is concerned over the increasingly
violent weather systems which have begun to appear and do
enormous damage over the past decade or so.

The Media are not able to expose the Truth about how our
Weather is being modified and manipulated.  The Media
are not able to expose the Truth about what they now call
Persistent Con-Trails in the skies.  The Media have been
instructed to, instead, create the impression that the severe
weather events and their destructive aftermath are the
result of human activities and that the People should be
Taxed in order to "prevent" climate change.

Because the Weather Control Programs are classified
Secret and Higher, the People are unaware of how our
weather is being toyed with for Military Advantage
as well as Imperial Advantage.  The Weather has
effectively been "weaponized" in order to effect
social and political change.  Another aspect of the
program of perpetual warfare to establish full spectrum
dominance over all of the nations on Planet Earth.

Warfare has been the weapon of choice to subdue
nations as well as culling the population, but occasionally
the People express anti-war sentiment which forces
government to resort to other means equally effective.
Weather Warfare is what we are seeing.

It is a nasty business.  It is built upon lies.
The People are deceived.

America First!  A slogan of deceit.

It is not being done for the American People.


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Given enough time, the Love of Money Disease infects everything.

Always for a "good cause" such as Saving the Planet.

As you will see, there really is "The Matrix."


The channel has many interesting scientific documentaries.


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I'm not pushing some fake media card,  they are FAKE NEWS, they make up stories to trap you into there fake thinking, the main stream media is owned and controlled by like 6 corporations, and I would imagine all controlled somehow by the Soros organization which also owns and controlls the Democratic Socialist Party of America, their official name.  It's not me who believes in lies, if you want to know who is driving this agenda just look at where 90% of all the trouble on Earth is coming from I hardly think I need to name them.

Thanks for the reply and I have heard similar thoughts to yours from many people I know.

As a centrist with neither strong Conservative or Liberal beliefs it's hard to wrap my mind around all the anxiety and polarization on both sides. What I can tell you as a rural person is that the environment is going to hell and a hand basket because of pollution. It's not some nonsense on the news it's in my own back yard so when anyone tells me nothing is wrong I'm going to call bs. I used to fish but the rivers are toxic, I used to hunt but chronic wasting disease trashed the deer and elk population. It's all going to hell and the only thing which seems to be on most peoples mind is how there going to make there next dollar.

Here is another problem and maybe I could get some input on this. The weaker more liberal/socialist side of me wants to open source free energy to the masses for the greater good. However the more Conservative/business side say's no I should get stinking rich like Trump and all of you can pay me as much as you can afford so I can be a multi-billionaire. As it were many people may have convinced me that maybe I should move in that direction and as they say... when in Rome do as the Romans.

However, the Romans, as we know had more balls than brains and got lazy eventually being overrun by the barbarian hordes. However in this day and age we have jets and a person could just buy a nice island well away from the hordes and live happily ever after. 

So it leaves this question hanging out there... if I did believe you and embraced Trump and his beliefs then should I stop sharing and do my best to corner the energy market and manipulate you and everyone else for profit?.

Regards


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