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Allcanadian:
Copied from my posts on OU.com

In my experiments I found there is no real difference between splitting the (+) or the (-). So while some like Gray split the (+) even more inventors like Tesla, Carlos Benitez, Hendershot were splitting the (-).

Splitting the (+) is a series circuit configuration where a higher (+) polarity is discharged into a lower (+) polarity. So we place two 12v batteries in series for 24v and connect the (+)24v terminal to the (+) terminal of another 12v battery and connect the negative terminals together. This gives us 24v series minus the reversed 12v battery for a true circuit voltage of 12v.

(-)12v(+)----(-)12v(+)--<<<<<<--(+)12v(-),   Note >>> is the electron current.

The real question is why do it, what is the benefit?.

This concept is difficult for most people because they can understand concepts like voltage, current and power however the concept of Energy is generally foreign to them. Think of it this way, if I place a resistor in series with a battery the energy tends to dissipate in the resistor as heat and not the battery because it forms a circuit node in the resistor. However if I shorted the battery with a heavy bar the node is now within the battery which overheats and tends to explode. As such energy nodes are formed in every circuit where opposite (+) and (-) polarities merge and energy is transformed, nodes can concentrate or dissipate energy.

Now if we split the positives and short the connection between the 24v(+) and the 12v(+) terminals the circuit node is now within the 12v battery which charges rapidly. So even with a dead short in the system at worst were recharging the 12v battery versus generating heat elsewhere. As such, splitting like polarities is a simple way to increase efficiency and reduce I^2R losses by controlling where energy dissipates within a circuit.

There is much more to it because these nodes where energy can either dissipate or concentrate can become motional within a circuit. However these advanced concepts are far beyond the scope of this conversation.

Regards
AC

Allcanadian:
I didn't know Gray had used this kind of black box configuration which sounds very similar to many other devices. Most inventors tend to distract from the actual process involved which is why many FE replicators only concentrating on his conversion tube failed to produce the results they wanted. The Benitez patents which "split the negative" describe what Gray was doing in much more detail and don't use a conversion tube which is not required.

So FE researchers need to be aware that most patents are loaded with "red herring" attributes. Some include a black box or special conversion tube or special triode tube or multi-alloy valve or specific conductor lengths configured or wound in strange ways which is basically nonsense meant to distract.

The actual process or effect is so simple it's almost comical and patented by Tesla in his radiant energy patent...US685958A, Method of utilizing radiant energy.

Simply put, when a plate, tube or any object is placed near a spark gap producing a "Volt Arc Discharge" or VAD it produces the "photoelectric effect" on said object. So it's kind of like a poor man's solar cell without all the fancy materials, band gaps and such which we can manufacture for next to nothing. The hard UV and other radiation from the VAD strips the collector plate/tube of electrons utilizing the photoelectric effect to drive any load while also recharging it's source. The masters like Tesla, T.H.Moray and Chernetskii knew this well before gray, where do you think he got the idea from?...

So we split the (+) or (-) from two sources to ensure our conduction energy is conserved while also producing a VAD or radiant event. Then we extract additional energy from the VAD or radiant event using the photoelectric effect to drive a load and also recharge our source. As many inventors claimed, even a child could understand it, because everything we really need to know can be found in any grade school science textbook.

There lies the key, knowledge and understanding of how nature works or simply put ... science.

As well I'm disclosing this technology because it's already obsolete and a VAD isn't actually required to produce the desired effects. Imagine that this is basically a completely unknown area of science which is already obsolete. In fact, it became obsolete before it even got started...

Regards
AC

Chet K:
AllCanadian
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Simply put, when a plate, tube or any object is placed near a spark gap producing a "Volt Arc Discharge" or VAD it produces the "photoelectric effect" on said object. So it's kind of like a poor man's solar cell without all the fancy materials, band gaps and such which we can manufacture for next to nothing. The hard UV and other radiation from the VAD strips the collector plate/tube of electrons utilizing the photoelectric effect to drive any load while also recharging it's source. The masters like Tesla, T.H.Moray and Chernetskii knew this well before gray, where do you think he got the idea from?...
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So many have played with spark gaps
And many would clear off the bench and make room to try an experiment?

Would be amazing to harvest excess energy in such a simple way?

Can you make a circuit suggestion?

Thx
Chet





Allcanadian:
Chet

--- Quote ---So many have played with spark gaps
And many would clear off the bench and make room to try an experiment?
Can you make a circuit suggestion?
--- End quote ---

If you look at the Gray circuit you will notice he has two sources feeding his spark gap ie, splitting the positive. One source is HV charging a few HV caps on the bottom electrode and the other source low voltage from a battery on the top electrode.

Below is a circuit many should recognize from the "water fuel plasma spark plug" threads years ago which is almost identical to Gray's. The electrical discharges from these circuits can be explosive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voSp9qQH14g

Link for different circuit designs.
Panacea....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAqG27_1MQA

As always, if our circuits cannot do something fundamentally different then the result cannot be different.

Regards
AC






hermes:
Hi everyone,

I have experimented today and made a great discovery that has to do with the Edwin V. Gray capacitor discharge motor.

Take two 4700 uF / 25 volt capacitors. Connect them in parallel so that you get 9400 uF / 25 volts and charge them with 9 volts from a 9 volt battery. Take an electromagnet whose one end attracts a permanent magnet. Connect a 3 amp diode in series with the capacitor and connect the diode and capacitor to the electromagnet. Check how far the permanent magnet fires.

Connect 2 4700 uF / 25 volt capacitors in series so that you get 2350 uF / 50 volts and charge them with two 9 volt batteries in series, so the total voltage is 18 volts. Take an electromagnet whose one end attracts a permanent magnet. Connect a 3 amp diode in series with the capacitor and connect the diode and capacitor to the electromagnet. Check how far the permanent magnet fires.

By entering the values in the following capacitor energy calculator: https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/capacitor-energy

You get the current charge and the energy charge and can calculate how far the permanent magnet is fired. Is that in line with the theory?

You will find more information on my Edwin V. Gray page that I have made today: http://gratisenergi.se/gray.htm

Best Wishes, Hermes  :)

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