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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #200 on: 2022-06-09, 23:01:45 »
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Quote from: partzman on 2022-06-05, 01:20:36
SL,

Nice work and thanks for sharing this!!!

I have a question regarding your flat top current waveforms on the rotor coils.  How did you achieve this?

Regards,
Pm


PM,

Sorry for the delay in answering your ?  Got "wrapped-around-the-axle" trying to optimize
the brass-board before it becomes a physically machined fabrication - measure twice; cut once!

For simulations the "flat top current waveforms" are set in the CAE software. You can tell it
to input any waveform you require through a "create your wavform" graphics dialogue box.
All three CAE programs [CST, SW-EMS, AEDT] use nearly the same scheme for a direct coil
excitation signal.

For the partial bench tests (very brief) a couple of dual channel Juntek JDS-2900 Signal Generators (FG's)
drive TI (Texas Instruments) UCC21530EVM-286 Evaluation Modules (a SiC MOSFET driver board) which
in turn drives the Littlefuse SiC FETs (Silicone Carbide high speed, high voltage) which, in turn, feed the coils.

The JDS-2900 is quite versatile so various input signal combinations can be easily tried. Programmable Logic
Inputs from the Digilent Analog Discovery2 instrument also works well but it's logic level pulses only.

When time permits, a proper microprocessor based (STM32 series demo board with display) driver scheme
will be designed (will probably use the same TI Eval Module) and SiC's. But first lets see if the thing works
with the bench test setup.

Will post the Processor design if it gets that far successfully.

Regards,

SL
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #201 on: 2022-06-10, 13:57:48 »
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Quote from: solarlab on 2022-06-09, 23:01:45

PM,

Sorry for the delay in answering your ?  Got "wrapped-around-the-axle" trying to optimize
the brass-board before it becomes a physically machined fabrication - measure twice; cut once!

For simulations the "flat top current waveforms" are set in the CAE software. You can tell it
to input any waveform you require through a "create your wavform" graphics dialogue box.
All three CAE programs [CST, SW-EMS, AEDT] use nearly the same scheme for a direct coil
excitation signal.

For the partial bench tests (very brief) a couple of dual channel Juntek JDS-2900 Signal Generators (FG's)
drive TI (Texas Instruments) UCC21530EVM-286 Evaluation Modules (a SiC MOSFET driver board) which
in turn drives the Littlefuse SiC FETs (Silicone Carbide high speed, high voltage) which, in turn, feed the coils.

The JDS-2900 is quite versatile so various input signal combinations can be easily tried. Programmable Logic
Inputs from the Digilent Analog Discovery2 instrument also works well but it's logic level pulses only.

When time permits, a proper microprocessor based (STM32 series demo board with display) driver scheme
will be designed (will probably use the same TI Eval Module) and SiC's. But first lets see if the thing works
with the bench test setup.

Will post the Processor design if it gets that far successfully.

Regards,

SL

SL,

OK thanks for that!  I'm still trying to figure out the total drive sequence but will anxious to hear about the results of your bench results, even preliminary stuff.

Regards,
Pm
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #202 on: 2022-06-11, 17:35:40 »
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Quote from: partzman on 2022-06-10, 13:57:48
SL,

OK thanks for that!  I'm still trying to figure out the total drive sequence but will anxious to hear about the results of your bench results, even preliminary stuff.

Regards,
Pm

PM,

Since the Holcomb LinGen DRIVER circuits and board are quite technical, the
design will likely be posted at "All About Circuits" and include a parallel Forum
with the details, discussions, and what not. (might also use one of the other typical sites)

Keep an eye out there - should be named something like "Holcomb LinGen Driver."

From their Website: [you're likely familiar with it]

"All About Circuits is one of the world’s largest and most active independent
online communities for electrical engineers."

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/about-us/

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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #203 on: 2022-06-11, 19:36:11 »

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https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/about-us/
Is it possible to find a circuit diagram of a frequency converter "LENZE" on this resource of yours?
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #204 on: 2022-06-11, 20:36:41 »
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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-06-11, 19:36:11
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/about-us/
Is it possible to find a circuit diagram of a frequency converter "LENZE" on this resource of yours?

Try the "site search" - that might be why they included it... so you could find "LENZE"

Or just ask the admin...
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #205 on: 2022-06-17, 18:19:25 »
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Domain Alignment, Relaxation, Re-Alignment and Timing

To properly finish out the Holcomb technical discussion, a fundamental, but important, aspect of the
device is magnetic domain alignment and relaxation as they relate to timing.

Pointing this out again - since it's important to understanding yet another significant difference!

This is also quite evident when examining the CAE simulations. [Links are below, at the end.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1VJ65LcXM&t=7s

One comment by "tgdyt2" and the "Holcomb" reply:
tgdyt2 (comment)
2 months ago

Apparently in all your study of physics you never stumbled across this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy
You can't create energy out of nothing. Something must be consumed/transformed. Electron "spin" itself
does not possess energy, and it if did, you would be taking it away, thus changing it, which could not be
perpetual.  E=mc²  Are you transforming matter into energy?  You can't do that forever either.

Holcomb Energy Systems (reply)
2 months ago (edited)

All generators operate by taking advantage of this alignment mechanism. However, the standard generator
rotor only aligns the domains one time at start-up, and then gets no further energy advantage from the
aligning process.

In comparison, the HES aligns the domains and relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns
and relaxes continuously every 4 milliseconds. Therefore we get the magnification effect 250 times per second.

[Note: Apparently YT has messed with the comments section]

Examining these simulations it becomes quite clear what relavance the domain alignment plays:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98900#msg98900
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98901#msg98901
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98908#msg98908

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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #206 on: 2022-06-18, 03:17:04 »

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Quote from: solarlab on 2022-06-17, 18:19:25
You can't create energy out of nothing. Something must be consumed/transformed. Electron "spin" itself
does not possess energy, and it if did, you would be taking it away, thus changing it, which could not be
perpetual.  E=mc²  Are you transforming matter into energy?

It's interesting to bring up E=MC^2, since in the covariant flavor of Lorentz' Special Relativity, C^2 effectively becomes a variable (since the measured velocity-of-a-signal is dependent on the reference frame it's being viewed from).

Imagine an observer that was falling toward and into a black hole singularity.
* From their POV, the rest of the universe would appear to be accelerating and blue-shifting, to the point that all light from the universe blue-shifts all the way into gamma rays.
IE: from their POV, boundless energy is being created from thin air as their time slows down.
* From our POV, the observer would appear to be slowing down to the point that they may appear to stop.  From our POV, they would appear to be losing energy as they decelerate.  And any radio transmissions from them would appear to red-shift, eventually into mere fractions of a cycle per-second.

Not a very practical thought-experiment, but I find it a novel/interesting concept to think about when pondering theoretical frameworks to 'scifi-tier' science. C.C


https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1003/1003.2273.pdf
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Mach%E2%80%99s-Principle-and-a-Variable-Speed-of-Light-Unzicker/945e189e11179cabb2559720ff7814341575e5bc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_redshift


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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #207 on: 2022-06-18, 06:16:38 »
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Hakasyas,

Your quote was from some clown on the YT comments regarding the Halcomb video.

It was addressed by Holcomb in a good technical manner that makes perfect sense.

So there is little or no relavence to the Holcomb HES system and your post.

Sorry, but the subject is practical excess energy generators and how they work,
not some thought experiment or Wikipedia nonsense!

SL
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #208 on: 2022-06-18, 14:39:38 »

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Quote from: solarlab on 2022-06-18, 06:16:38
Sorry, but the subject is practical excess energy generators and how they work,
not some thought experiment or Wikipedia nonsense!

The thought-experiment becomes more practical when one realizes that 'C' is simply a derivation of the magnetic and dielectric properties of any given reference frame.

With this in-mind, one might be able to begin modeling the Holcomb purely from parametric variation of impedance.  No magic particles or fancy buzzwords, just a generator with a constantly-changing inductance modulated at an even multiple of its fundamental frequency.

I'm not trying to drag off-topic, I'm trying to lay a bread-crumb trail to explain Holcomb from a solid conceptual/predictive framework. ;)


Edit: I don't want to cloud up the convo too much with theory/math though, will continue in a separate thread if I get any deeper into this.


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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #209 on: 2022-06-18, 15:41:02 »
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This would not explain Holcomb, as a parametric change always has an energy cost, the one of 'C' being easy to calculate.

We would have to explain why this one would not have any, or where the energy would come from that would allow the parametric modification.


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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #210 on: 2022-06-18, 19:00:32 »
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Quote from: Hakasays on 2022-06-18, 14:39:38
The thought-experiment becomes more practical when one realizes that 'C' is simply a derivation of the magnetic and dielectric properties of any given reference frame.

With this in-mind, one might be able to begin modeling the Holcomb purely from parametric variation of impedance.  No magic particles or fancy buzzwords, just a generator with a constantly-changing inductance modulated at an even multiple of its fundamental frequency.

I'm not trying to drag off-topic, I'm trying to lay a bread-crumb trail to explain Holcomb from a solid conceptual/predictive framework. ;)


Edit: I don't want to cloud up the convo too much with theory/math though, will continue in a separate thread if I get any deeper into this.

Hakasays,


In simple terms, the formulas given define the "cap" on the speed of light - otherwise it would be infinitly instant!
Also sets the inductor/capacitor Tau (5-Tau) otherwise they would charge/discharge instantly - sets electron speed.

Note: Higher voltage makes the electron go faster and thus gain more energy!

Have a look at these videos, especially the first one:

The Ultimate Speed - An Exploration with High Energy Electrons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0BOpiMQXQA
   Notes at:  23:07 - 25:50,  32:00 - 33:30.

MATTER WAVES & PHYSICS BELL LABS FILM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx-7FAEV6AM

Similiarities of Wave Behavior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k


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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #211 on: 2022-06-19, 05:54:08 »

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Good links Solar, I knew we'd find some common ground :P

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Also sets the inductor/capacitor Tau (5-Tau) otherwise they would charge/discharge instantly - sets electron speed.
A key takeaway that inductance+capacitance (ie:impedance) need not remain constant.  In a synchronous motor or rotary electrostatic converter or magnetic amplifier the impedance is constantly changing with respect to time, which changes the character of the energy circulating within the LC circuit.


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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #212 on: 2022-06-19, 06:31:18 »
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Quote from: Hakasays on 2022-06-19, 05:54:08
Good links Solar, I knew we'd find some common ground :P
A key takeaway that inductance+capacitance (ie:impedance) need not remain constant.  In a synchronous motor or rotary electrostatic converter or magnetic amplifier the impedance is constantly changing with respect to time, which changes the character of the energy circulating within the LC circuit.

Hakasays,

Might want to be a little careful when making an analogy between the Holcomb devices and motors or
electrostatic converters or mag amps.

They are quite different beasts and, it appears to me at least, the only commonality is they both
involve magnetics with a few fundamental B and H characteristics.

Although I haven't publish full reports on the simulations, there are a few graphs found here:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98977#msg98977

Don't see any real variation in the Coil Inductance/impedance - a very small bump - as seen in the attachment below. Probably quite
normal as the pole coil is a simple wire winding at low frequency.

There is no LC circuit other than interwinding capacitance which is nominal.

SL
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #213 on: 2022-06-19, 06:39:39 »
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ooops - fat finger cockpit error - missed approach...
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #214 on: 2022-06-20, 16:46:33 »
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Hoping you all had a pleasant Father's Day - being  "Father" is a little tough some times - but it's one of a very few great rewards in life, IMHO!

Starting the LinGen when there isn't any other way (remote, but possible - you never know)

A Shaker Flashlight method is one approach (thanks Cadman). An analysis of one such device is attached.

There are several good improvments to the examined flashlight that are mentioned in the article. Another excellent upgrade
is replacing the NiMH battery with a Super Capacitor (recent developments in this technology have really allowed these
to become viable and cost effective).

Some brief study on this phase of the project has proven to be quite interesting and exciting. Haven't actually designed
anything in a while - a lot of facinating developments have occured in the last few years.

Have a great evening and a good week!

SL

Posting this here since it's directly related (?) and within the context. Also contains some interesting, not so obvious, observations.

As a seperate device - shake to charge the Shaker's SuperCap; when charged, connect Shaker to the HES LinGen to transfer this charge to
LinGen internal SuperCap; then press the LinGen "Start Button." A few seconds of "shaking" will produce enough current in the SuperCap
to fire-up the LinGen. Once the LinGen is activated, unplug the Shaker.


   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #215 on: 2022-06-23, 09:13:32 »

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There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox ". So that the excess current energy in the stator is not wasted to create a fast rotating field. :-\
I untill don't know how...
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #216 on: 2022-06-23, 16:46:51 »
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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-06-23, 09:13:32
There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox ". So that the excess current energy in the stator is not wasted to create a fast rotating field. :-\
I untill don't know how...


Clearly shown in these frame captures:
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #217 on: 2022-06-23, 16:50:45 »
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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-06-23, 09:13:32
There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox ". So that the excess current energy in the stator is not wasted to create a fast rotating field. :-\
I untill don't know how...


Also, clearly shown in this CAE animation:
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #218 on: 2022-06-23, 16:52:35 »
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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-06-23, 09:13:32
There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox ". So that the excess current energy in the stator is not wasted to create a fast rotating field. :-\
I untill don't know how...


Results are also clear:
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #219 on: 2022-06-23, 17:04:21 »
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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-06-23, 09:13:32
There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox ". So that the excess current energy in the stator is not wasted to create a fast rotating field. :-\
I untill don't know how...


And a little Quote from Mark Twain:
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #220 on: 2022-06-23, 18:28:59 »

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And a little Quote from Mark Twain:
If I am a stupid person, then in vain. :) The idea is not meaningless.
Answer better, how can you increase the speed of rotation of the magnetic field
 without increasing the switching frequency of the stator?
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #221 on: 2022-06-23, 18:57:25 »
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Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-06-23, 18:28:59
If I am a stupid person, then in vain. :) The idea is not meaningless.
Answer better, how can you increase the speed of rotation of the magnetic field
 without increasing the switching frequency of the stator?

Figure it out, or, look it up - like all the rest of us have had to do!
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #222 on: 2022-06-23, 19:45:28 »

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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #223 on: 2022-06-23, 21:48:44 »
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https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=RU251522614&docAn=2018147625
I already found. This is called a magnetic gear.


BTW, cute Cat pic...

How, in any way, is this patent/idea related to Dr. Holcomb's technology? 

It contains "permanent magnets," "a hollow cylinder magnetic conductor," "more permanent magnets,"
"more internal pernament magnets," "more external permanent magnets," and "a low speed shaft rigidly
connected to inner rotor," plus, "a high speed shaft rigidly attached to the outer rotor.

In short: It's a MAGNETIC REDUCTION GEAR, nothing more, and not even remotely related to a Holcomb device that I can see.

So, you found a "magnetic gear" and you ask "How can this be used to increase the rotating magnetic field found in the Holcomb
generator without increasing the pulse rate." You tell me, I'm all eyes and ears!

Please! Give me a break...  If/when you come up with your next "earth shattering" discovery - think about it first, then analyze it,
develop it, write it up, and only then present it if it's truely related. Adding to this thread for shits and grins or Brownie Points is a
giant waste of time and consumes needless effort and space.

Thanks in advance.   And - who's "opinion? - From: "There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's
creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox "."
   
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Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #224 on: 2022-06-24, 06:02:35 »

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  And - who's "opinion? - From: "There is an opinion that the rotation of the virtual magnetic field after it's
creating ,must be accelerated by a "virtual gearbox "."
It was uttered by one member of the rasko-speaking forums.
It was simply said that it would be nice to speed up the rotation of the field.
Higher speed, higher EMF  He said and disappeared. And I have been thinking for several days.
Everything else is my thoughts. I also pulled the magnetic gearbox into Holcomb's device.
   
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