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Excellent thanks for that SL. I’ve printed with iron pla in the past but it has a permeability of 2 so I decided not to print a rotor. I have not looked at the Ferro resins specs though. I’ll see what I can find. I need a resin printer:)
   
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Further development of the Holcomb varient (LinGen, amongst others)
by Solarlab, et. al. has been moved to a wide bandwidth Web Page type
environment to allow for more content, video streaming with indexing
and easy browsing.

Thanks go out to the OUR folks for hosting the initial content.

Watch your PM for further details.

Best regards and good luck in your quest for OU!

Solarlab



   
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Holcomb LinGen Controller Update

F.Y.I.

STM32F7xx Controller design is in Alpha Test and it's pretty inpressive so far!

Took longer than expected to design using the ARM HAL TIM functions but it does not impact the
main processor - had a long learning curve w.r.t. the TouchGFX (LCD/Touch display functions) but
it's pretty cool - easily sets/changes the "Sequence Time/Interactions" - nice engineering  design
tool! New MOSFET & Drivers (US made) were also used - somewhat expensive but performed flawlessly.

Schematic and software might be uploaded to the web site soon. Keep an eye out...

SL

« Last Edit: 2022-09-13, 17:45:19 by solarlab »
   
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Beta is on the webside - testing looks good so far! (crossed fingers)  O0

   
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Beta is on the webside - testing looks good so far! (crossed fingers)  O0

Is there a link to it?
   

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Beta is on the webside - testing looks good so far! (crossed fingers)  O0
great can’t wait to see it when you are ready to share. Thanks.
   
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A quick update:

See attached video below (a slow go - but it works!).

   
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It would have been surprising if HES had said it wasn't working.  :)
Apart from the DNV report provided by HES, who else but HES has verified that it works?


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It would have been surprising if HES had said it wasn't working.  :)
Apart from the DNV report provided by HES, who else but HES has verified that it works?


No one else of any great OUR stature - so you might as well just move along then - nothing for you folks to see here!

 :)

BTW - what's the Troll/Shill rate per post these days?


   

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Thanks SL they are very active on LinkedIn atm. Lots of people wanting to hand over $ but no word on shipping still. Still trying a variety of winds and rotors here.
   
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Honestly that “paid to disrupt “ thing ?
It is not a proper fall back position here ( or at other forum)

this “paid shill “ response looks like loosing an argument and resorting to ….( insults and name calling?
Besides it incurs a risk of liability on our hosts behalf ( defamatory)
That being said ….
Yeah we need to get more research and less sledgehammer here !
Respectfully
Chet K
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And honestly
I have yet to speak with a builder or theorist here who does not appreciate the input of said person

HOWEVER!!
Temperance has been a part of those discussions
And how to balance this at these open source forums for the benefit of
Newer members not familiar with ….. 



   
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Honestly that “paid to disrupt “ thing ?
It is not a proper fall back position here ( or at other forum)

this “paid shill “ response looks like loosing an argument and resorting to ….( insults and name calling?
Besides it incurs a risk of liability on our hosts behalf ( defamatory)
That being said ….
Yeah we need to get more research and less sledgehammer here !
Respectfully
Chet K
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And honestly
I have yet to speak with a builder or theorist here who does not appreciate the input of said person

HOWEVER!!
Temperance has been a part of those discussions
And how to balance this at these open source forums for the benefit of
Newer members not familiar with …..


Chet K, Re: F6FLT

If it walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck and behaves like a Duck - you get the idea...

Commenting in eleven different threads in one session says it all.

BUT - making a stupid comment on this thread; that F6FLT himself knows is absolutely not
true and can be easily varified (makes his comment a complete, fabricated, lie), thus qualifies as
TROLL/SHILL material, period!


No one should tolerate this kind of abuse - and I won't - liability or not. Otherwise the forum
will become, well, what it's already become.

If this childish nonsense is not challenged it will continue - and if it continues, fine, that's your
choice - but, I refuse to tolerate it - OK! And, if it takes "sledgehammering" then so be it.

A great deal of excellent technical research and information has been presented here, by me,
so to have some bozo disrupt the thread with dumb-ass comments, then he (and you all) should expect
an extremely harsh treatment.

SL

PS - Speaking of research, why don't you try doing a little R&D, and a little less defending of the disrupters?



« Last Edit: 2022-09-22, 03:43:07 by solarlab »
   
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It cannot be denied that you have posted a large amount of research data on Holcomb !
And it represents the cutting edge in simulation technology!

I apologize if you perceived my comment as dismissive of your efforts!
Been a long day over here …

This needs more discussion

Ps
I see you added a bit at the end

( I was calling a few builders for opinions prior to posting )
I hope this time next month this will all be a moot point !
And we will have that piece of meat we so desperately need !

Have a good night
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BTW
that preaching to the Choir thing  …may feel good… but as of this writing …???
Edit for clarity ( comment below)
All claims unless profoundly obvious …example “ here it is running .. this is how you replicate it “

This will Take actual repeatable results ( which can be independently replicated) of a real world on the bench device  … ( “which hopefully are” incoming ( thanks to Mike 🤞

This will silence skeptics once and for all !







   
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It cannot be denied that you have posted a large amount of research data on Holcomb !
And it represents the cutting edge in simulation technology!

I apologize if you perceived my comment as dismissive of your efforts!
Been a long day over here …

This needs more discussion

Ps
I see you added a bit at the end

( I was calling a few builders for opinions prior to posting )
I hope this time next month this will all be a moot point !
And we will have that piece of meat we so desperately need !

Have a good night
EDIT
BTW
that preaching to the Choir thing  …may feel good… but as of this writing …???
This will Take actual repeatable results … ( incoming 🤞


Sorry, I have no idea what your talking about in your EDIT bit.

You can easily repeat the results - it's all given in the "LinGen" presentation.

Do it as many times as you need to, until you've convinced yourself... This is
the same proposition F6FLT, and others, were encouraged to do - no one did however!

Still a bit bewildered as to why not... strange?  But, hey, whatever.

Think I've repeated this a few times before.

Anyway, have a good evening!


   
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Apart from the DNV report provided by HES, who else but HES has verified that it works?


No one else of any great OUR stature - so you might as well just move along then - nothing for you folks to see here!
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If there are no credible third party measurements, I will wait for them, since I do not have the industrial means to build a replica of the machine, and no simple setup, proof of concept, has been provided. :)


The lingen seems indeed very close to Holcomb's system. In both cases moving fields are supposed to be at the origin of the OU. The problem is that a moving field is only a variable field because nothing really moves with the field, as explained there:
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg100069#msg100069

The so-called displacement of the field is therefore not the direct cause. If there really is OU, the key would be in the way fields from different sources vary and superpose.
On the other hand one wonders why so many coils. The injection of extra-energy is not global, it must be done at precise points of the device, and symmetry requires that it be done in the same way at all equivalent points, for example at each coil, in which case it is not clear why only two or three coils would not be enough.



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It's one of the simplest excess energy devices you will ever find - that is if you take a few minutes to
study it. No mystery what so ever!

Third party measurements - try Florida Power and Light - FPL.

Displacement - so many coils - etc. and other such foolishness - you obviously have no idea about
which you attempt to speak.

So, give it a pass, and just move on. Nobody here will even spend 1 second to argue with you!

For those with a genuine interest - see below:




   
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So, let's go through it again, shall we:

Dr. Holcomb's method and technique have been extensively evaluated and tested.
 
They are valid and do produce excess energy - see the previous 9 pages of this thread.

Here are some links [probably missed a few] related to the analysis evolution:

Initial thoughts (applications, etc. 2022-04-05):

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98375#msg98375

Patent link (initial target patent):

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98509#msg98509

Preliminary field roll tests:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98891#msg98891
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98892#msg98892

Magnetic Field Gain simulation tests:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98900#msg98900
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98901#msg98901
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98908#msg98908

Flat Solid-State Rotor WO 2018 134233 Holcomb:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98965#msg98965

Simulation Configuration (various and corrected timing?):

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98965#msg98965
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98977#msg98977

Timing:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99028#msg99028

Brassboard and CAE results:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99112#msg99112
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99113#msg99113
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99114#msg99114

Bench Test Driver:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99201#msg99201

Additional analysis and results:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99359#msg99359


Hopefully these will help clear up this confusion and misconception...

   
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LinGen - a simple varification of the Holcomb patent:

   
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LinGen Magnetic Field Intensity - simulation, since you can't really see the magnetic field
with your eyes:

   

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LinGen - a simple varification of the Holcomb patent:

I don;t understand how the "magnification effect" works.

Can you please explain it?
   
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I don;t understand how the "magnification effect" works.

Can you please explain it?

Dr. Holcomb explains the "magnetic effect" - BH Curve of electrical steel provides the "gain" mechanism - in this
video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1VJ65LcXM

Review the comments as well.

His patents provide, in great detail, how he uses the electrical steel [BH effect] and rotating/sliding magnetic field,
without any moving parts, to accomplish the excess energy.

Go back through this thread and hopefully you will get the idea.

Three different materials [ST37, Plexiglass, 1008] are shown in the simulation below.
Details are given in the first 9 pages of this thread and attached report.

It's important to note that differing types of magnetic steel react differently depending on
their BH characteristics (shown in the simulation ST37 versus 1008) with respect to the driving
Pulse Rate. Appreciate that the Pulse Rate and Duty Cycle are arbitrary - select/set as required.
   
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BH relationship - Linear versus Non-Linear Energy

Inductance Non-Linear Materials

Magnetic Apparent Energy for a Magnetostatic Field Solution

Typical DC B-H Loops of Magnetic Materials (shows hysteresis curves)
    - these "loops" are important when considering pulse timing (hold-off)
    - reverse polarity, and other schemes, can also be used to reduce loop hysteresis

DC Magnetization Curves for Magnetic Materials (same as above - different units - no Loop)
   
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Misc NOTES and Info

Saturated the N-4pole section (only showing 4 of 8 poles for file size reasons) to
show the Sliding Magnetic Field effect more clearly.

Photo of Holcomb testing LinGen type device. Note the "rotor laminate" in the
foreground center and lamination press to the left, N - S in center.

Primary focus at the moment are the Holcomb Large (xxxKW) round generators and
not the LinGen type devices.

Notes 12Apr22 Gramme
NOTE: Holcolm's patent WO2018134233A2 on page 2 mentions the Zenobe Gramme generator on page 2. Interestingly,
the Gramme winding does not suffer from counter-emf.

In it's original design the Gramme efficiency suffered but not because of counter-emf.
Holcolm page 3 (same patent) discusses "back EMF" or "reverse torque" and LenZ's Law in some detail.

Magnetic Gain and Domain Alignment-Relaxation

There seems to still be some confusion regarding the magnetic domain alignment, relaxation, and re-alignment. The animated gif attached
clearly shows the differences. Other animations also exist in the previous link list.

Complete alignment, complete relaxation and complete re-alignment occurs every 2 milliseconds in the animation. Holcomb refers to this
occuring every 4 milliseconds in his patent.

This gif viewer is good for stopping or slowing the animation:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gifviewer/


OK, thats it!

   
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Hopefully that was of some help and you found it interesting!

Have a great weekend...
   
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Couple hour delay so I read through this thread - all 14 pages of it - and ran across a post I did
about a month ago:

Holcomb Varification Question

1.  How is it that after studying the Holcomb patents for several days I was able to determine the four (4) basic principles
of the operation, determine how to varify these characteristics and, in turn, use several modern professional CAE tools to
simulate, and thus, varify the operation of at least one version of the Holcomb device?

2.  How is it that the "first pass" WAG (wild ass guess) design I used in the simulation yielded an output Voltage of
40 Volts peak-to-peak with a substantial co-energy component using only 8 poles (4-N & 4-S) and an ad-hoc Lap winding?

3.  If it doesn't work then how come it actually works and was proven, and shown, to work on a first pass WAG CAE implementation?

SL



Found it enlightening since, after reviewing most of the posts by some of you fellows, all my above questions were answered!

Unfortunately the answer doesn't speak well for the general "where-with-all" of most of you here (Jimboot exempted).

You know, when the mention of this "OUR Forum" surfaces in general techncal discussions there's a lot of funny expressions
and comments that sometimes surface (some are rather crude); and, after reviewing just this thread, it's pretty obvious
why these comments are what they are. There are, in fact, a few that observe in silence.

Guess I had better just remain annonamous and pretend I was never a part of this Circus!

Try and take this as constructive criticism [hard as it may be] and try to clean up your act...


 
   
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