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Great improvement, you have been a great help throughout this process. I'll continue forward with this approach.

It worked very well and we'll never hear from him again? :)
That's gratitude for you...
   

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I couldn't find a better place for it, so I'm putting it here (for those who are interested.) For my part, this is just a thought experiment for the next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_vGXL6h-k

I have seen some experimenters repeat the thought process of N. Tesla. A transformer driven in short pulses (or pulse packets) as an energy transfer device.
Testing whether there can be excess energy. Or whether it can be connected to the spatial ether.

For my part, the investigation of this was as follows. Is it possible for the two frequencies (primary/secondary) to interact but move separately. Primary pulse train/secondary sine wave.
That is, from the quote :

 "... In order to amplify the electrical movement in the secondary winding as much as possible, it is essential that its inductive connection with the primary winding A should not be too close, as in conventional transformers, but should be loose to allow free oscillation - that is, their mutual inductance should be small ...""

 Thus realizing (and looking for) the way forward.
Thank you.

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hey Ata

interesting that the separation between the primary and secondary you speak of, in only that much spacing to get the effect, AND in a closed core. wouldnt have thought it could be before now. have seen similar with a bar or rod core, not closed as you show.

are the windings the same? 
have you moved the windings closer to each other to compare?

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hey Ata

interesting that the separation between the primary and secondary you speak of, in only that much spacing to get the effect, AND in a closed core. wouldnt have thought it could be before now. have seen similar with a bar or rod core, not closed as you show.

are the windings the same? 
have you moved the windings closer to each other to compare?

mags

Hi Magluvin!

I will try to answer your question as much as possible. Possibly in not entirely professional terms!

As I have inserted some thoughts in the description,so my opinion must be analysed in the sense of it.But I reserve the right to be wrong.

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On the separateness of the magnetic parts of the primary and secondary coils,i.e. the extent to which they affect each other.

The separate recording in the description was aimed at this. The full-fill rectangular infill sign shapes. The current one is driven only in pulse (i.e. only variable and not alternating) and only in short pulse.

What I mean. We know well that N.Tesla paid special attention to very short pulse drive.(rotary mercury switch in pulse pack)
As far as I know, the essence of this is the delay of the electron,or the delay of its effect.
I was curious about the difference between the displacement current and the bias current. What I can understand from it.

My answer to your question.
The coils are 1:1 in the same cross section.
The fill of the coils is not physically adjustable. You can certainly make an adjustable version. But that would be the subject of another experiment.

That's all I was interested in for now.


Thanks.

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its just had me thinking, what would be the difference in what your doing, separating the windings in the core, vs winding a primary on one sode of a toroid and the secondary on the other side with some space between them?

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its just had me thinking, what would be the difference in what your doing, separating the windings in the core, vs winding a primary on one side of a toroid and the secondary on the other side with some space between them?
Like this:

   
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The current one is driven only in pulse (i.e. only variable and not alternating) and only in short pulse.
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What do you call “short pulse”?
If it's ns, the “transformer” model is wrong. The whole device, including the coils and connection wires, must be considered as transmission lines, and radiating.


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What do you call “short pulse”?
If it's ns, the “transformer” model is wrong. The whole device, including the coils and connection wires, must be considered as transmission lines, and radiating.

You're right about that.( roughly 500ns) But I'm still curious about the performance ratios. That remains to be seen.
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its just had me thinking, what would be the difference in what your doing, separating the windings in the core, vs winding a primary on one sode of a toroid and the secondary on the other side with some space between them?

mags

It must be good in the form that verpies drew it. But then you have to put a bridging shunt between the two coils.
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You're right about that.( roughly 500ns) But I'm still curious about the performance ratios. That remains to be seen.
Atti.

500 ns is only 2 MHz, but if it's rectangular, it means that there will be non-negligible components up to at least 14 MHz. The behaviour of the circuit will then depend on the implementation (tighter or looser turns, relative positions of the elements that influence capacitive coupling, induction in the electronics by the elements that radiate, etc.), so it won't be possible to evaluate the principle but only a particular setup full of various uncontrolled effects or artefacts. At these frequencies, RF engineering must be used (coaxial cables, shielding, etc.).




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