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poynt99	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #25 on: 2010-11-21, 02:08:57 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3213 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Interesting results core. Keep at it. Could you please place a link to your Youtube channel? .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

poynt99	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #26 on: 2010-11-21, 02:12:20 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3213 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Core, Yes, mixing/modulation is an interesting concept, and seems to be along the lines that this guy talks about: http://ut27972.narod.ru/Book_2/85_Book_2_part_85.htm It's difficult to read the Google translation (at least for me), but there is some interesting stuff there. The ferrite core being a non-linear medium (at its saturation thresholds) could indeed make an interesting mixing chamber. .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

poynt99	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #27 on: 2010-11-21, 02:30:11 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3213 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	One thing I'll mention about this guy's talk on the spark gap drive voltage; I'm not sure I agree with his notion that the voltage across the spark gap will remain unipolar. See the diagram below: The spark gap is switching at least one energized inductance, so I see the kickback causing bipolar currents across the SG. The "+НП" represents one SG threshold. Am I missing something? .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

ion	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #28 on: 2010-11-21, 04:14:55 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Tried to upload the English pdf but was too large (2.7 Meg) After a brief scan of the document, one thing I can say for sure: these guys are crackerjack at designing with discrete components. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

poynt99	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #29 on: 2010-11-21, 04:51:01 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3213 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	ION, email the pdf to me and I will have it hosted with a link. Is this a pdf of the Google translation? .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #30 on: 2010-11-21, 09:55:20 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	Looks significant but i cannot speak Russian http://next-energy.2x2forum.ru/forum-f4/tema-t19-50.htm#5607

Grumpy	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #31 on: 2010-11-21, 16:08:13 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3947 tExB=qr	nothing there

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #32 on: 2010-11-21, 20:01:00 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	OOPS oh really, what apart from the circuit you mean

Grumpy	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #33 on: 2010-11-21, 20:23:27 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3947 tExB=qr	I mean that there is nothing there that will help you with replication of Kapanadze's Device. SR's purported replication is undocumented and unproven, as are all of the other replications. CosmoLV has been preaching the an ever evolving spiel of crap for over a year now. He was kicked off Energetic several months ago. Back then he insisted that the primary of the Kapanadze "garden coil" was bifilar like Tesla's coil for electromagnets. This increases the capacitance significantly and makes this approach very doubtful. Also, every replication and discussion ignores the fact that the thick outer coil appears to be "open", and that the cable through the center of the coils appears to be the only thing that is grounded. Also, looking at the other "garden coil" in Kapanadze's home, the cable in the center (core) appears to be folded back and forth, possibly to increase it's surface area. Based on these observations, no one has really replicated the "garden coil", and no one is even close.

S4alien4U	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #34 on: 2010-11-21, 21:03:08 »
Group: Guest	Very interesting device. « Last Edit: 2010-12-11, 05:21:21 by EcrossB »

Grumpy	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #35 on: 2010-11-21, 22:09:16 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3947 tExB=qr	Quote from: S4alien4U on 2010-11-21, 21:03:08 These devices are not OU, but simply obfuscated step up transformers. See! I am not the only one with a BS meter!

Core	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #36 on: 2010-11-21, 23:36:07 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2010-11-21, 20:23:27 SR's purported replication is undocumented and unproven, as are all of the other replications. I agree here. I sometimes wonder if he dropped off the scene because he was ashamed. He took a lot of attention from Tariel. I have already spent some money of ferrite rings. I guess I'll work my last idea through and concentrate on Tariel's device. Respectfully, Core

duff	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #37 on: 2010-11-22, 16:22:51 »
Group: Guest	@Core Have you seen these posts from SR? http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=333.msg5960#msg5960 It sounds to me that he is talking about NMR and a core magnetic material with a high Natural Abundance. 59Co has a natural abundance of 100% as does 55Mn, however there are health issues associated with 55Mn fumes. SR did mention having a headache and fever for two days. Quote The first process allows them to relax, the second turn, so that all these small magnets are created resulting field and powerful. It sounds like he is talking about pulse rate/duty cycle that allow for relaxation times. Typically there or only uV responses coming from NMR but who knows. Maybe he tapped into another potential. « Last Edit: 2010-11-23, 15:59:21 by duff »

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #38 on: 2010-11-23, 13:40:17 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	I notice in the video SR is using a line transformer from an old TV, it looks like a very old black & white tv transformer which would be AC output @ about 20kv no split diode contained inside these transformers, this would have a long diode in series with the EHT lead to the final anode of the tube(Stick Rectifier) but It could also be a line transformer from a valve colour tv and these were much lower voltage because they fed a tripler or cockroft multiplier stage, these again were AC, the blue spark across the gap reminds me of the good old test for a faulty tripler loading the line stage, this consisted of unsoldering the tripler feed from the transformer, powering on said tv and holding a screwdriver near the tab on the transformer, a nice blue spark could be drawn if the line stage was ok I would class this spark as cold, when there's dc content the spark is hot, violent and normally white. He's definatley got a cold spark there

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #39 on: 2010-11-23, 13:51:50 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	OK just watched it again, and i also just noticed he's using the scan coil plug to hold the spark gap wire Defiantly a colour tv, and dam if i remember in the UK there were 3 makes that used those green scan plugs, Grundig and ITT and Philips. Philips didn't use a white Line transformer as far as i can remember, ITT is possible but more likely is early Grundig colour portable, those electrolytics he's using seem to ring a bell for grundig as well, i wish my memory was a bit sharper.

poynt99	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #40 on: 2010-11-23, 14:19:48 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3213 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Hi Peter. Which transformer are you referring to? (as there are two in his device). .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #41 on: 2010-11-23, 14:32:47 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	The white one, in fact i now know which make model and line transformer he has used Been trying to wind back my memory , I have fixed loads of these TV's but about 20 years ago, i was wrong above, it's definatly a Philips portable colour, the line transformer was white and it fed a tripler, it also used the green scan connectors, although sometimes orange were used, it's a KT2 chassis.

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #42 on: 2010-11-23, 14:37:49 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	I am trying to find a picture of the KT2 transformer. So far found only the Later version of the KT3 which was Split diode based. Same shape but the final anode lead screwed into the transformer via the nut you see on the transformer, i cannot remember exactly how the KT2 connected to the triple, it may have been the same way. Note the appearance of this transformer is different to the original because this was a replacement by another transformer manufacturer. EDIT The KT2 transformer didn't have the red wire you see either, this is for A1 and focus voltage generation chain, which the KT2 did from a tap on the tripler. I have found a circuit of the KT2 not sure if anyone is really interested in that but i will upload just incase, he's certainly using a number of components from it, including some of the wiring loom. ------------------------ PHILIPS KT2 CHASSIS TV D.pdf.zip (1128.53 kB - downloaded 675 times.)

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #43 on: 2010-11-23, 15:08:07 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	I guess it's still possible it could be an early Grundig also, they also used green scan coil connectors and i think i can remember a white molded transformer in one as well, i wish i could find some pictures of these chassis to rule each out or even pictures of the original LOPTX

Peterae	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #44 on: 2010-11-23, 20:28:53 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3871	Slight problem with this device guys, theres a twin corded wire going under the table just north/east of the bulb, both bulb connections are at the south end of the bulb, the wire can be seen dangling down by his feet at 4:17 is the best the wire even swings as if it's suspended from the underside of the table, but also at 3:11, 5:24, 6:58 and a few other times Worst still the wires connected to the bulb are the same colour, so it's quiet possible his device is not even driving the bulb $:-\$ but a straight connection to the mains supply, plus this splits to drive his mains transformer. ------------------------ SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication Con401.jpg (56.35 kB, 1024x648 - viewed 4934 times.)

Grumpy	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #45 on: 2010-11-23, 20:36:34 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3947 tExB=qr	Quote Holly came from Miami, F.L.A. Hitch-hiked her way across the USA Plucked her eyebrows on the way Shaved her legs and then he was a she She says, Hey babe Take a walk on the wild side Hey honey Take a walk on the wild side the first image is an old idea that doesn't work (oops) second image is latest idea. ------------------------ SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication Kapanadze _Grumpy_Schematic.PNG (46.96 kB, 659x631 - viewed 11639 times.) SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication Grumpy_Kapanadze Coil explanation_10-20-2010.PNG (23.16 kB, 705x561 - viewed 5515 times.) « Last Edit: 2010-11-24, 02:15:17 by Grumpy »

poynt99	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #46 on: 2010-11-24, 02:14:16 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3213 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Grumps, The core wire B-field would be "static" ?? .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

Grumpy	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #47 on: 2010-11-24, 02:18:32 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3947 tExB=qr	sorry that was an old idea that doesn't work 10-20-2010 diagram is the latest idea

Core	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #48 on: 2010-11-24, 02:51:01 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Peterae on 2010-11-23, 20:28:53 Slight problem with this device guys, theres a twin corded wire going under the table just north/east of the bulb, both bulb connections are at the south end of the bulb, the wire can be seen dangling down by his feet at 4:17 is the best the wire even swings as if it's suspended from the underside of the table, but also at 3:11, 5:24, 6:58 and a few other times Worst still the wires connected to the bulb are the same colour, so it's quiet possible his device is not even driving the bulb $:-\$ but a straight connection to the mains supply, plus this splits to drive his mains transformer. A lot of things don't add up or make sense with the SR193 device. I have tried putting myself in his position but everything I come up with is opposite of what he has done. For starters SR is an avid FE researcher. Like anyone else I'm sure he has seen or has heard about devices that can easily raise an eyebrow. He was most likely like anyone else that has asked for more information before claiming it legit. Now here we have a guy who say's he has replicated Tariel's device. The big problem is that there is only one video and in this video there is no camera shot of 'under the table'. Ironically Tariel has about nine or so video's and practically all angles of his device have been filmed. SR must of known that his one video would not legitimize the device. So why wouldn't he film another one? There is no indication that his device can run an inductive load. It makes no sense to go into hiding, most people, if not all, love to silence there critics. One thing for sure he has distracted many people from working on replicating TK's device. One crazy theory I'll start is that the device is a hoax and this was his way to draw Tariel to him. Kinda like 'Hey we have something in common soooo..... what's your secret'. Respectfully, Core

Core	Re: SR193's (nextenergyru) TK Replication « Reply #49 on: 2010-11-24, 03:09:14 »
Group: Guest	@Grumpy That second setup will light a small bulb with high frequency. Shorting the spark gap lights it brighter. Respectfully, Core

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