Wesley says its a done deal TK revealed
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Wesley quote:
Well my friends it looks like the history files are being created just right now as we speak... at this very moment... At this very time I'm writing this words.
Wesley
Quote:
Yes I can
Successful replication of OU device
150W output around 5 W input.
By:
International group of people including me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBpNKSsdqw
Wesley
TK is looking very worn.
Did anyone else follow the net conversations while Wesley was narrating?
They are convinced they have done it. A couple of them sound like they know what they are talking about. I'm not fluent in the dialects used but I'm sure I understood enough.
This may become interesting :)
Thanks ramset.
I watched the video and paused it a few times to make a sketch and ponder it a bit..
On the surface it looks like a one wire charge pump until one considers the interwinding capacitance of the lower tuned RF transformer.
This capacitance completes the current loop especially at the high voltages being utilized.
He might do better with a bridge rectifier (high quality fast diode type) on the secondary of the lower transformer so that he can catch all the positive and negative hash and send it to the load.
If there is something more under the surface, it will await accurate input / output measurements.
I'll wait with reserve.
He is also smacking the transformer from two sides with spark gaps on both sides of the transformer.
Huge field jacking....
After building the Kapagen from JL Naudin (not OU but not the Kapanadze's device), I had abandoned because Kapanadze didn't provide sufficent matter. Now the schematic extracted from the video gives us informations about the principle (see the attached file).
If there is a real effect, it seems clear that the spark gaps are the key point to provide the extra-energy and the resonant circuits the means of recovering this energy. I see two resonant circuits, one with the HV coil and the 0.2 pF (value strangely weak, and surely by far much lower than the own capacity of the HV coil or than the capacity between the HV coil and the case connected to the ground), the other one is the left winding of the transformer. The natural capacity between the primary and the secondary winding can also play a role in the resonance.
According to the order of the capacitors, the working frequency should be high, in the range of some Mhz (what seems in good agreement with the size of the coil in the video)
What bothers me is that the setup is still a complete device with so many parameters that it is not duplicable. It is not a proof of concept. If there is extra-energy somewhere in this setup, a careful measurement of a very elementary circuit with the key element would be enough to show us.
Quote from: giantkiller on 2011.10.15, 14:39:23
He is also smacking the transformer from two sides with spark gaps on both sides of the transformer.
Huge field jacking....
Huge Field Jacking? This remains to be seen and is not a fact, so should be prefaced "it is my opinion".
Appears to me (my opinion) he is trading HV low current for low voltage high current. A resonant switchmode RF down converter using spark gaps instead of semiconductors or tubes. Why is the loop not closed? Even a low efficiency DC to AC converter could be used to close the loop since the COP is claimed to be around 30. Surely there is a primary driving the HV transformer (the 5 Watts input), but we won't see a watt meter on that.
EX: What is not shown in the drawing is the primary of the HV transformer that is supplying the "juice".
GK, Your colorful language amuses me. With all that "smacking and jacking", TK should be reported to the Protection Agency for abused Transformers.
I am pro free energy and quite open minded, as you guys should already know by now. I have put my professional reputation on the line quite a few times at work and elsewhere on these forums. However, this time I have to discredit the claims made in this video again, like I've done in the past with these claims.
From my own experiments in the past, I was able to light up a 60W light bulb to the same "full brightness" which is not full by any means, I did it with even less wattage then they claim. They claim to input 5 watts, I did it with slightly less than 4 watts. Did I claim over unity? NO, a bright bulb is not a quantitative measurement of output power.
I'll tell you guys what their device is:
It is an over complicated "rube goldberg" Resonant Power Converter!
EM
PS, Here's a good link to resonant converter topologies from Texas Instruments.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup085/slup085.pdf
Here's two diagrams from this document. One for Series resonant and one for Parallel resonant. On the output you always want to have a high impedance to AC currents, so you include an inductor after the diodes and before the output capacitor, else the AC currents see a short in the capacitor and the voltage drops. The rectified DC current has no problem. Impedance matching is very important!
Quote from: EMdevices on 2011.10.15, 16:02:32
I am pro free energy and quite open minded, as you guys should already know by now. I have put my professional reputation on the line quite a few times at work and elsewhere on these forums. However, this time I have to discredit the claims made in this video again, like I've done in the past with these claims.
From my own experiments in the past, I was able to light up a 60W light bulb to the same "full brightness" which is not full by any means, I did it with even less wattage then they claim. They claim to input 5 watts, I did it with slightly less than 4 watts. Did I claim over unity? NO, a bright bulb is not a quantitative measurement of output power.
EM [snip]
A fun video, with technical information starting at about the 6-minute mark, but I must agree with EM that the use of light bulbs to measure the output power -- first a 60W bulb then a 150W bulb -- is not sufficiently accurate to provide a compelling demonstration of OU.
One would like to see a kill-o-watt measuring the input power (as this appears to be running on mains) and another or something like it on the output power.
I would say, even dumping Poutput into a resistor and heating water would give a crude but convincing measurement of the output power in a case like this, where 60 to 150 Watts out is claimed. What is this coil? does anyone have any detail on that key element?
For now i also agree, another device with no solid measurements taken, yep at least a kilo watt meter on the mains would have been real handy.
Quote from: ION on 2011.10.15, 04:06:05
I watched the video and paused it a few times to make a sketch and ponder it a bit..
On the surface it looks like a one wire charge pump until one considers the interwinding capacitance of the lower tuned RF transformer.
This capacitance completes the current loop especially at the high voltages being utilized.
He might do better with a bridge rectifier (high quality fast diode type) on the secondary of the lower transformer so that he can catch all the positive and negative hash and send it to the load.
If there is something more under the surface, it will await accurate input / output measurements.
I'll wait with reserve.
Lets speculate a bit here:
I am quoting myself here because I may have inadvertantly uncovered a key element in the operation of the TK device if indeed it does provide any degree of overunity.
I am in agreement with EM and
on the surface the device appears to be a crude resonant converter.
But when one considers again the return path for the excitation, which is through the powerful electrostatic forces between the otherwise isolated windings of the lower tuned transformer, this opens a whole new way of looking at the possibility of creating electron flow in a wire using a combination of electrostatic resonance through interwinding capacitance and normal LC resonance.
This is very difficult to model in the dynamic mode since it deals with oscillating electrostatic charges, standing waves and moving waves and may be the overlooked factor also at work in some of the TPU's.
We see at least two tuned circuits in the TK device, the major one is the primary of the lower transformer, the other is on the return winding that couples to the secondary of the lower transformer. The very low pF used by this resonant circuit may be the other harmonic required to complement the interwinding capacitance, which would also be very low, on the order of a few pF.
This may be the mechanism SM spoke of "lifting the hose and squeezing it" and may be why none of our 5U4 tests ever panned out. Unless you used his exact transformer with the right proximity of windings and interwinding capacitance, you might not see it.
I could see where T H Moray may have possibly created the vacuum tube version, foregoing the spark gaps. His device required careful tuning.
This is
just an opinion based on a little thinking outside the box, and giving those guys (TK et al)the benefit of the doubt.
But something to consider.
I believe every one of those fellows built the "Kapagen" and Naudlins device! [they should have a grasp on frequency anomalies]
Some times the things that cross our path ,Do so for a reason...............
Chet
Some building instuctions
http://www.youtube.com/user/T1000LTU?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/PmJg1Kmbgk4
Chet
More build info
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The primary coil - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmJg1Kmbgk4
The tube diameter is 6 cm, length 30 cm
5x1 meter of 2mm diameter wire (50+50cm in caduceus winding)
The 2 secondary coils: 5 meters 2 mm diameter wire each
(the mass of each secondary coil match mass of primary for electrostatic resonance). The left hand + right hand winding.
The variable cap is 25kV up to 500pF capacitor for tuning.
Can't say frequency there due to high voltages for oscilloscope. See video for it and oscilloscope probe shorted and inside of TT where light bulb is shown lighted up.
good luck
Wesley is doing a tutorial PDF it seems??
Quote:
The proper material is being prepared right now possibly in three dimensional format. Maybe tomorrow if we speed up.. Additional information are being discussed as we speak. If proper tuning is applied than the same elements
may give you range of few KW.
The first and primary is to understand self resonance of flyback.
I'm doing laboratory measurements to explain how to do it without the lab.
Material will be posted in traditional to me form as chunk of information but in addition to that it will be discussed here. I can not do everything in one time .. video editing .. I'm not so good in it.. I'm much better in lab and scientific investigation ...
Please understand..
Wesley
Flyback in my particular example was using 48Khz of self resonant frequency
Do not cant on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All you have to do is get to the highest possible frequency with the highes voltage present on secondary of Flyback
but do not over do it...
This is the hint
Although Anuras T-1000 suggested that RAMP SHAPE is the best ... I did not see difference between square or triangle in regards to sinus at self resonance..
Yes he is right RAMP gives you sharp cut out.. that is what we need ...
you may see without oscilloscope many resonance points but that would be only harmonics...
The catalog resonance frequency for flyback I have is around 17KHz
But if you apply voltage to 100% of length of primary winding...
Depends which wind you use self resonance will be different at the same very Flyback..
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The biggest amplitude
I have got on square with 50% duty cycle.
remember this thing can kill so be extra careful
hint: give try of 1V only (from signal generator) and you can measure HV on secondary..!!!!!!!!! with your V meter ... make sure that your V meter works no not less than 100KHz..!!! If not it may lie to you..
Pick the highest point and you should be at resonance point.
No matter what have you give to primary you get sinus at secondary at resonance..Make sure that amplitude is the same...
NO RINGING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9UKBEEKx4w
Chet -- I watched the first vid from these fellows, and went to the URL you posted and watched some of the latest (over 1/2 hour long, no time right now for the whole half-hour vid).
Below is a screenshot from the vid. This schematic suggests to me: this is based on a Tesla coil, including the spark gap (although I do not read Russian). Perhaps an approach like Don Smith's? IS THIS CORRECT?
Steve
As you know wattsup and some other fellows are replicating this, I would imagine there will be much more relevant info in the next few days.
Personally I have gotten so turned around on these circuits lately ,I can make no comments whatsoever.
Thank you
Chet
A Method /formula to achieve OU
posted by
Shokac At TK thread
Read this:
http://elgersmad.homestead.com/files/Resonance/ChaosI.html
http://elgersmad.homestead.com/files/Resonance/index.html
From Over unity thread
From here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7679.msg304719#new
energia9
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i have experimented, things are happening the exact way aidas, arunas, wesley say, no theories will make your device work! DO IT and you will know!!!
everything has to be adjusted piece by piece, you will not suceed with a fixed thing....
trust it, the phenomenon is not explained in conventional science, and media will still try to supress it although it can be reached by anyone this time.
All physics books needs either adding more info or completely rewriting...
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@Question to EM devices
Your thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated [and remain here in this forum ,I will not post them anywhere without your permission ]
Thank you
Chet
Read the simplified construction instructions from Patrick Kelly.
I now have two Atten Oscilloscopes in USA. Tuning will not be a problem. The first FLEET prototype built in USA is now guaranteed to be OU.
Multiple LCR resonance appears to be the key. This TK device falls into this catagory. Will have much fun.
May God guide all the Researchers.
Not yet
Trying to get the latest Schematic ?????//
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7679.0;attach=56718
Ganzha
New_User
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Here is practical schematic diagram for Tiger device with ferrite Yoki from uSSr TV sets. Approval!!!!
Be aware of not approval replications from others!!!! It may cose damage your brain!
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/9781-tigers-device-0-150-1kwt-replicant-2.html#post166451
In http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/, the input is said to be 10W. The halogen is 150W but we see it is not bright. Imho 10W are enough to light the bulb as on the photo.
So there are complicated adjustments for a resonant frequency with minimum losses in the circuit, in order the halogen to light, thanks to the power of the two generators. I don't see any possible OU here. Or did I miss something?
Exnihiloest
Lindsey [mannix] and wattsup are both building this also [wesley device] . there will be more measurements coming!!
Thanks for your Comments
Chet
Quote from: exnihiloest on 2011.10.15, 15:40:39
After building the Kapagen from JL Naudin (not OU but not the Kapanadze's device), I had abandoned because Kapanadze didn't provide sufficent matter. Now the schematic extracted from the video gives us informations about the principle (see the attached file).
I've recently discovered how to upload schematics to the 'Web, and I redrew the diagram in your post to the attachment as a PDf in t\\t the bottom of this post.
Looking at the original, I'd ask:
The small coil that has a waveform attributed to it? Is that a power takeoff point or a power input point?
The bottom of the drawing has what appears to be a spark gap or possibly a set of quick disconnect arrows to the left of what might be a full wave bridge. What is it, exactly?
Are
both of the capacitor sets made of two strings of 4X larger capacitors that are in parallel to equal 6800 picofarads?
Is the input 220 VAC @60W, or is that the power takeoff point?
Note:The transformer core was drawn in three straight lines as American drawings usually show.
Sorry, the image is upside down. You might want to print off a copy for reference anyway.
Okak, now there's a problem. My drawing is backed up on my Yahoo! account, and this borrowed computer will
not allow downloads of outside files as a security measure. I can return tomorrow and reedit this post to update it with the drawing.
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on 2011.11.14, 00:24:02
Okay, now there's a problem. My drawing is backed up on my Yahoo! account, and this borrowed computer will not allow downloads of outside files as a security measure. I can return tomorrow and reedit this post to update it with the drawing.
Here you go at the bottom of the page.
Reedit:Rats! This computer won't copy from a PDF to a Windows Word file. And I can't upload from Yahoo!, either. I know where I can do this for sure. Will return later.
Re-Reedit:Finally!! There's a PDF and a Word Windows file to choose from below at bottom of pg. Ignore the file at the top of the list unless you really want to look at it. It's associated with another thread in my Bench forum. Entered by mistake.
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on 2011.11.14, 00:24:02
I've recently discovered how to upload schematics to the 'Web, and I redrew the diagram in your post to the attachment as a PDf in t\\t the bottom of this post.
Look at the quotation above. I didn't put that "t\\t" in the text. I did
indeed upload the file. That's the way it was.
I'll try again from my thumb drive backup. Bottom of pg.
I just checked: They're there, as I entered them, as of 19 Nov '11.
--Lee
Vladimir Utkin
How this works
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt5.html
http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf
This paper from Utkin (http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf) contain false and unfounded assertions, ridiculous explanations not supported by facts, misinterpretation of conventional experiments, not one duplicable OU experiment that works. It is outside of any science. I have rarely seen such a high density of nonsenses by line of text. It is a shame for Tesla that people unskilled in physics pretend to reveal his secrets, and hijack his work.
Quote from: exnihiloest on 2011.11.24, 09:46:31
This paper from Utkin (http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf) contain false and unfounded assertions, ridiculous explanations not supported by facts, misinterpretation of conventional experiments...
Maybe you would care to give a couple of examples.
Quote from: Paul-R on 2011.11.24, 13:34:09
Maybe you would care to give a couple of examples.
http://www.free-energy-info.com/VladimirUtkin.pdf, page 2 about the Faraday motor disk:
Question : "How can you produce positive electromagnetic field feedback?"
Reply: "when the current-carrying wires are tilted in one direction, their magnetic field augments the main external filed" (and decreases it if wires are tilted in the other direction)...
This can't produce positive feedback because the Lorentz force is always perpendicular to the electron speed. If the wire is tilted, the electron speed vector also, and the Lorentz force doesn't act tangentially to the disk (the best condition), but partially toward the rim or toward the center with a null result for the disk rotation.
It is just an example that I should not even give, because you are reversing the burden of proof. It is to Vladimir Utkin to prove. Where he put the math or the measurements that could logically or experimentally prove his assertions?
Can you show us a self-sustaining Faraday disk?
Tesla had no secret. He gave us every thing that could be useful, by filling patents which were much more intelligent than this paper from Utkin. Utkin has no legitimity to explain Tesla, he greatly depreciates Tesla's work.
Rave reviews from Wattsup on this one --->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71q1DPsFemw&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jbUA6_10c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GlaYj7J5s8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GlaYj7J5s8
e2matrix tuning Instructions PDF
Thankyou Team!
While This project seems to have potential on a few fronts . I have not had success except for a strange vibration in the flesh of my hand at one point.
An efficient tuned transformer at another point .
I have not ever seen the "fully bright" 150w bulb in any of the "revealing" videos.
I dont care if "oil barrens" suffer or not
I dont speak or read Russian.
Everyone take another look at the original video of TK with his green box unit in the garden:
1. The outer coil made from what looks like copper tubing "still" appears to be open on one end.
2. None of the purported, "revealing" replications has explained the need for the good ground or the difference between the two ground connections that TK demonstrates.
3. Everyone has missed the fact that the entire circuit, input and output, is powered by the battery, before TK disconnects the battery. This means that the circuit has to be energized by the battery, before it will work without the battery. Not one of the so-called "done deals" has pointed out this simple fact.
4. TK says that the most important thing is a resonance condition, which can mean several things. This implies that some sort of "tuning" of the spark rate is probably required, as everything else is fixed and the coil in the garden looks almost identical to the coil inside the house. The spark rate appears rather "slow".
5. Anyone who thinks a ferrite core is inside the primary needs his head examined.
Here is a nice picture of the coil in the house. The end of the outer coil is shown open. I never got a got view of the one on the green box unit to confirm this, so it is a "hypothesis".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUHfIaWqzR0
Thanks to the team
Chet
What video did you post? (YouTube is blocked)
Chet
That video shows as private and we cannot view it.
I will see why ??
I was looking at it when I cut and Pasted the link??
Sorry I will check it
Chet
T1000 Quote
"He is fixing circuit diagram error and will re-post video again after."
Chet
Found to contain errors and so taken off. Fix and repost.
thay
OK thanks for checking and letting us know O0
Wesley
Quote:
NEW VIDEO AFTER CORRECTIONS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ47GMvGzEc
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Do any of you fellows have a way to run 3 watts into a bulb that size for comparison?
Would it even appear lit at all?
EM devices
Could this still be the same as the low wattage bulb lighting circuit you mentioned earlier?
Thanks
Chet
Technical difficulties [again]
LITHUANIA OU EXERIMENTS VIDEO #4 SCHEMATICS AND MESUREMENT.swf
NEW VIDEO AFTER CORRECTIONS:
Will be corrected again. .
The problem I have is graphic program that in minute 11:58 for some reason show two move clips in the same time. Sory for inconvenience, I'm tired of these small glitches..Every time I lose 4 hours just for conversion and up[loading
But every time I can add something more too.
EM devices previous post on possible theory of operation [lighting a bulb]
Quote:
I am pro free energy and quite open minded, as you guys should already know by now. I have put my professional reputation on the line quite a few times at work and elsewhere on these forums. However, this time I have to discredit the claims made in this video again, like I've done in the past with these claims.
From my own experiments in the past, I was able to light up a 60W light bulb to the same "full brightness" which is not full by any means, I did it with even less wattage then they claim. They claim to input 5 watts, I did it with slightly less than 4 watts. Did I claim over unity? NO, a bright bulb is not a quantitative measurement of output power.
I'll tell you guys what their device is:
It is an over complicated "rube goldberg" Resonant Power Converter!
EM
PS, Here's a good link to resonant converter topologies from Texas Instruments.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slup085/slup085.pdf
Here's two diagrams from this document. One for Series resonant and one for Parallel resonant. On the output you always want to have a high impedance to AC currents, so you include an inductor after the diodes and before the output capacitor, else the AC currents see a short in the capacitor and the voltage drops. The rectified DC current has no problem. Impedance matching is very important!
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New video after all of the corrections
Lithuania OU Experiment #4 Wesley's Theory..swf
This is just introduction to the theory. T-1000 will be able to add a lot more.
Anyhow
Aidas
Arunas
and I we need at least good nap after all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F-AYYE50o
Wesley
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Also an action flick ............Good guy gets Zapped............
Chet
So, TK is not a "done deal" after all... :D
EDIT:
I browsed the Wesley stuff. The one gent takes a scientific approach and Wesley comes strong with the BS. The OU forum is full is that. Energia9 is right there with him. Crap like this takes away from the work of TK and from everyone's work toward the OU goal. This is why the TPU effort has become so stagnant, as well as every other device replication. It appears the "working together" is absent in human nature.
Grumpy I know you can't see Vids
But ?
For those who are interested in our working device:
Device #1 - Mixed Languages(Uncut).mpg - YouTube
Lithuania OU Experiment #4 Wesley's Theory + schematic+ explanation+step by step instruction - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F-AYYE50o
Quote from: ramset on 2011.11.30, 14:41:31
Grumpy I know you can't see Vids
But ?
For those who are interested in our working device:
Device #1 - Mixed Languages(Uncut).mpg - YouTube
Lithuania OU Experiment #4 Wesley's Theory + schematic+ explanation+step by step instruction - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2F-AYYE50o
What do you mean by "working device"?
Thats what They are saying Grumpy!!
Exactly what its making for output seems to be the definitive question ?
However as more men such as Wattsup, ETC start to get their replications running, I am Quite sure we will get some good measuring techniques for evaluation!
But to answer your question
It runs a 150 watt bulb to the brightness in the vid with 2 -3 Watts input?
I will gladly offer a comparison of this if someone will tell me how I can Do This??
Em Devices Had proposed a possible method to do this ,[I reposted it last page].
Anyhow Your up to speed .The instructions are in the Vid [How its Done]
Thanks for looking
Chet
Quote from: Grumpy on 2011.11.30, 13:51:55
So, TK is not a "done deal" after all... :D
EDIT:
I browsed the Wesley stuff. The one gent takes a scientific approach and Wesley comes strong with the BS. The OU forum is full is that. Energia9 is right there with him. Crap like this takes away from the work of TK and from everyone's work toward the OU goal. This is why the TPU effort has become so stagnant, as well as every other device replication. It appears the "working together" is absent in human nature.
And your so called scientific approach all these years that still have yielded nothing is not crap? I beg to differ. Too many 'researchers' on this forum thinks they really understand but reality most just talk shit.
cheers
chrisC
Quote from: chrisC on 2011.11.30, 20:42:08
And your so called scientific approach all these years that still have yielded nothing is not crap? I beg to differ. Too many 'researchers' on this forum thinks they really understand but reality most just talk shit.
cheers
chrisC
It is obvious that Wesley has nothing but a following of foolish lemmings, longing for the cliff experience!
I see you still don't do anything and even Lawrence has gotten the better of you! LOL! LOSER!
AHHHHH
Nice and warm and friendly here........
No sweat ... Fellahs, this man knows his S.......Tuiff
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-60.html#post169403
Another guy that has it working {lights only so far.......]
The lemmings are gonna have to do some measuring soon ... To do useful work!! [Like Daemonbart is asking]
Soon Grumpy very Soon ..............
Chet
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8999-peter-daysh-davey-water-heater-query-40.html#post169434
I ran some tests
this was fun!!
I think it will work Too
Chet
Latest Schematic
Also The heartbeat came to life in Wattsups replication early this AM
Chet
Why is the light bulb only half way in the water?
Is that a dual lead connection to the light?
HHHMMMM
So your saying I can drop the whole Light into the water??
Submerge the Metal Too??
Did Grumpy put you up to this?? =:.]
GK
I am building another device [Savic Boiler} I have been doing tests for Power in Heat Out ....over time !
This test has nothing to do with the boiler [so far???]
I realized these Guys are having a hard time doing anything but Lighting Bulbs at this time And Peeps are begging for good measurements ??
So I just did some sidewalk Calorimetry I was curious to see if the Bulb would break etc.........
Works perfect As a matter of fact it works Too good ??[performance].
No interference of ant kind with their rigs ... a really cool [hot] test that they can just plug in and run till they use One watt on the Killowatt meter
then just compare to the Baseline test.
Freaking simple and effective [at the OU rates they are claiming]
BTW
The bulb in my test.... The metal is JUST touching the water.......
I set this up in 5 minutes last night a quiiky
Thanks for looking
Chet