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 Today I noticed Woopy has been making progress with his kacher device:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8ih5msk7c&feature=channel&list=UL

I like that he does experiments and reports findings...  his diagrams could be a bit more clear...

He's running a 12V DC motor while claiming no hook-up to the + of the batteries at all...  Strange if true.
Text with vid:

QuoteQuote
Testing all my best arround the Kacher , i have seen that there is a lot of connection possible with different results.

And especially that i can get a very standard 12 volt DC motor happily spinning a prop without any " positiv " connection to the battery. And without any charged capacitor .

OK will go sleeping and perhaps tomorrow will bring some more things

good luck at all

Laurent

Attached is his diagram, from the vid.

Does anyone know WHERE in EF or OU that Woopy is posting about this?   Do you have comments on Woopy's approach?

I'd like to try it... but can't get a clear picture of what his "kacher" coil is, that is -- HOW is it wound?  and just what is the antenna he refers to?

Any answers would be appreciated.
Steve

PS -- also, noticed today there is a Free the Energy conference in Holland 9-11 Nov 2012...
http://globalbem.com/conference/

There doesn't appear to be much information
available regarding "kacher" and what it means
although there is some about Brovin and his work
in developing an audible compass. (http://video.dainutekstai.lt/w.php?a=xMiNnHzFsRQ)

What Woopy has done seems to be the result
of Radio Frequency oscillations and a coil
structure very similar to the Tesla Coil.

Some self oscillating Solid State Tesla Coils are
built in like manner with a feedback arrangement
characteristic of the Armstrong Oscillator.

"Kacher" may refer to the method of using the
high voltage secondary coil as the feedback
connection to the transistor base. (http://video.dainutekstai.lt/w.php?a=RfQMoaD4fnw)  Hopefully
additional clarification will be forthcoming.

Quote from: Dumped on 2012.07.08, 15:40:07
There doesn't appear to be much information
available regarding "kacher" and what it means
although there is some about Brovin and his work
in developing an audible compass. (http://video.dainutekstai.lt/w.php?a=xMiNnHzFsRQ)

What Woopy has done seems to be the result
of Radio Frequency oscillations and a coil
structure very similar to the Tesla Coil.

Some self oscillating Solid State Tesla Coils are
built in like manner with a feedback arrangement
characteristic of the Armstrong Oscillator.

"Kacher" may refer to the method of using the
high voltage secondary coil as the feedback
connection to the transistor base. (http://video.dainutekstai.lt/w.php?a=RfQMoaD4fnw)  Hopefully
additional clarification will be forthcoming.

  Yes, hopefully so!

I went to the Don Smith thread at EF based on a suggestion from Slider and found some relevant information, but that thread is HUGE. This vid by woopy is particularly helpful IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnHTtpPvsTQ&feature=youtu.be

This demo involves a spark coil, and he demonstrates the importance of the ground wire.  The use of AV diodes is clearly important.

 I'm impressed that in woopy's latest work with the Kacher coil, there is no spark coil needed.  I would personally prefer to replicate the latest, simpler version.  The presence of an ANTENNA is still mysterious to me -- but it is reminiscent of Moray's work IMO.

Hi PP,

Woopy posts regularly on EF in the "Donald Smith Devices too good to be true" thread, and
on OU in the "Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze" thread, but in others too.

I just today replicated his experiment, using one of my kacher (different layout) and a 12V DC fan.

It seems that the AV-plugs (UF4007 diodes) are able to convert enough RF (313Khz) to DC for the fan to run on.

Video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vBFHOTrL1Q&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Quote from: Itsu on 2012.07.08, 16:35:33
Hi PP,

Woopy posts regularly on EF in the "Donald Smith Devices too good to be true" thread, and
on OU in the "Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze" thread, but in others too.

I just today replicated his experiment, using one of my kacher (different layout) and a 12V DC fan.

It seems that the AV-plugs (UF4007 diodes) are able to convert enough RF (313Khz) to DC for the fan to run on.

Video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vBFHOTrL1Q&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

Thank you, Itsu!  I enjoyed your vid very much and especially the SCHEMATIC which you provided to us.  Also, I found the discussion at EF (seems there is a lot of background noise on the discussion there).

Woopy noted, "12 volt DC motor happily spinning a prop without any " positiv " connection to the battery"  -- but your schematic shows a connection to the positive of the battery...  Can you explain what Woopy meant?

Also, can you measure the output CURRENT from the battery?  that would tell us a lot, IMO.  (I will post this at EF also, but hope you will respond here.)

Hi PhysicsProf,

Quote-- but your schematic shows a connection to the positive of the battery if I understand correctly

Looking at my diagram, i don not see a connection to the positive of the battery.
One AV-plug goes to minus/ground of the battery, the other AV-plug goes to the antenne through the output coil, same as with Woopy's.

Anyway, this kacher i used has an input of 24.5V at 1.6A, so almost 40W!
Most is lost in heat (transistor) and RF (330Khz), and the fan (12V / 0.22A) runs of this RF via the antenna/ground.

Regards Itsu.

I've notice that these circuits with low energy consumption while tapping into high voltage have something in common:  loose coupling.

Most of the highly tuned circuit consumed just as much as idle when loaded.  The only thing they can tune to is the inductance not being used.  Maybe the key to "extra efficiency" revolves around loose inductive coupling. 

Quote from: Itsu on 2012.07.09, 09:12:35
...
Looking at my diagram, i don not see a connection to the positive of the battery.
...

You have an obvious connection to the positive of the battery (otherwise you could completely remove the battery)!
So what do you mean?!
- that the intermediate coil has an open terminal?
The intermediate coil is capacitively coupled to the primary, providing the reaction for the transistor to oscillate.
- that the output coil has no connection to the positive?
Yes it hasn't but it is a well known basic function of a transformer to isolate an input circuit from the output.
Here the output circuit is looped through the capacity between antenna and ground and so, current is drawn from the primary coil.
Very conventional circuit. Nothing new.

(http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1484.0;attach=8097;image)

exnihiloest

QuoteYou have an obvious connection to the positive of the battery...

QuoteVery conventional circuit. Nothing new.

i agree, how else could the motor run.
But how i picked up the question from physicsProf was:
"is there a direct (physical) connection between the motor and the positive of the battery".

There is none, only a inductive/capacitive coupled connection like you explained.

Thanks for your comments,  regards Itsu

Its surprising to me how people still view this type of capacitively coupled circuit as in some way magical. As exnihiloest say's - nothing new.

Hoppy

Before semiconductor, sand is sand.  Nothing new.

Very true.  This is nothing new to the "Old Hands" who've played
with these kinds of circuits in their youth.

But back then, when we were making our discoveries (becoming
educated in technology) it seemed new and fantastic.  Only to be
told by the Old Hands even then that it was really nothing new...

Sure, some of the devices are new (refined sand) but the concepts
are ageless.

As we learn we become "Old Hands" who watch the newbs begin
their journies into the wonderful world of Radio Frequency "magic."

And so it goes, et cetera, et cetera, etc...

Quote from: Itsu on 2012.07.10, 10:39:36
exnihiloest

i agree, how else could the motor run.

Well we have the choice: the ZPE of Bearden, the EM waves from Aviso, the ambient heat, the scalar waves of Meyl... in brief all the magic of "free energy"!  ;)

Quote
But how i picked up the question from physicsProf was:
"is there a direct (physical) connection between the motor and the positive of the battery".
There is none, only a inductive/capacitive coupled connection like you explained.
Thanks for your comments,  regards Itsu

Ok now it's clear and we agree. Thanks!

QuoteItsu:  But how i picked up the question from physicsProf was:
"is there a direct (physical) connection between the motor and the positive of the battery".
There is none, only a inductive/capacitive coupled connection like you explained.
Thanks for your comments,  regards Itsu

QuoteExnihiloest:  Ok now it's clear and we agree. Thanks!

I agree also; thanks for clarifying Itsu and others.   Itsu's latest vid also responds to my (actual) question by showing the voltage drop on the battery and the current draw --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqsKujwawxE&feature=em-uploademail 

Itsu's video is excellent!  Thanks much for the link PP.

(In Japanese "itsu" means "when." Pronunc. = EE-tsu)

He's not but this illustrates how words in one language
can mean something in another language too.

I'm still curious about why the coil is referred to as a
"Kacher Coil."  Does anyone know the history on this?

I haven't been able to dig anything up at all on "Kacher"
which sheds any light...  :-\

Quote from: Dumped on 2012.07.11, 20:43:27

I'm still curious about why the coil is referred to as a
"Kacher Coil."  Does anyone know the history on this?

I haven't been able to dig anything up at all on "Kacher"
which sheds any light...  :-\

I think it's called that because of that's the name of the guy who came up with that
particular method of triggering the switching, "Brovin Kacher" I think is his name.
I couldn't find out much either by searching the Net.
Maybe it should be referred to as a "Kacher oscillator" or something because it would
seem to be a Tesla transformer but self oscillating - "Self oscillating resonant air core transformer".
I made the circuit and used it on a pre existing transformer, it does work well,
but mine heated the transistor quite a bit. Still a promising circuit, mine changed
switching frequency depending on the load.

Cheers

After a couple of hours of creative "searching" with various
search terms there is finally some "light." (http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg189463/#msg189463)

"Kacher" is probably nothing more than slang or possibly
a spelling error.  But it's caught on and is probably here
to stay - even though nobody is certain how it came to
be or whether it has any connection to the circuit at all.

The web page link (http://www.radiokot.ru/lab/analog/20/) provided by xenomorphlabs (when
translated) is very interesting.

It really is a variant of the Tesla Coil.

@ Dumped,

Quote(In Japanese "itsu" means "when." Pronunc. = EE-tsu)

thanks for this, nice to know, it was actually the name of my deceased dog (a Siberian Husky)

Yes, that weblink you found has some very intresting information, and google translate does a reasonable job here.

But if this sentence is really accurate i have my doubts:

QuoteTo begin understanding the theory of the engine with 800% efficiency we take a simple generator.

Regards Itsu

Quote from: Dumped on 2012.07.12, 07:25:40
After a couple of hours of creative "searching" with various
search terms there is finally some "light." (http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg189463/#msg189463)

"Kacher" is probably nothing more than slang or possibly
a spelling error.  But it's caught on and is probably here
to stay - even though nobody is certain how it came to
be or whether it has any connection to the circuit at all.

The web page link (http://www.radiokot.ru/lab/analog/20/) provided by xenomorphlabs (when
translated) is very interesting.

It really is a variant of the Tesla Coil.

Yep. Just modify the discharge stage to match the load confiuration of the intened process target. Same as it ever was.
Now just bend it into a ring and have the head bite the tail.

What translator did you use? Bing does nothing in my attempts.
Thanks.

  Guys:
 Interesting video on the original Brovin/Kacher device, and the purpose it was used for.  I know that Dumped has already posted the link. Was that actually his name? Or, did it mean something like the "Exciter", but a "catcher" of local ambient energies, instead.
 Now many different versions of Dr. Stiffler's Exciter circuits are being worked on. But, I wonder, what happened with the Doc? Maybe he developed the no battery higher powered version? And is not telling...
 
 I have also been staying up to all hours of the night working on my version of the Exciter circuit.  But, when I am using a 12v LAB, 4.5 ah battery, as the source battery, the smaller transistors get very, very hot. Sometimes in just seconds, a 2n2222 turned red hot, and actually lit on fire, smoke all over the place.
I'm using two 1n4148 diode and a tuning led on the base now, but still getting too much heat on the transistor.  It works ok using 3 to 10 volts, but not on 12v, or higher voltages that would give good results otherwise.
Maybe someone has an idea that would help, before my wife kicks me off of the kitchen table (again), for starting fires.
   
  Brovin/Kacher video:  Just as reference
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMiNnHzFsRQ

Quote from: GiantKillerWhat translator did you use? Bing does nothing in my attempts.
Thanks.

I used Google Translate.  It does a pretty fair job.

Quote from: NickZMaybe someone has an idea that would help...

Mouser, and possibly other electronic retailers, have available some of the
new small high power transistors made especially for saturated switching.
They're about the same size as the PN2222 but are able to carry several
amperes of current.  I'll see if I can come up with a few type numbers and
prices...

NPN and PNP switching transistors.

The pages have links to the Data Sheets.  For some reason the PNP
is about half the cost  ($0.24) of the NPN ($0.59) but considering
the specs that doesn't seem too bad.  I use them in some of my
projects.

  Thanks for looking into this Dumped.  I may just have to use lower voltages, or the bigger transistors like a 2n3055, TIP31, and such.  Your thought on mosfets might also work. Some guys have mentioned that the IRF 530 and some others work on voltages under 15v. The small transistors like the MPSA06 are very cheap though, like 20 for $20, and were the ones recommended by the Doc.  He used two resonant tuned towers, instead of just one, like we are now using in the Slayer type exciters, which are very much like the Kacher set up. The different Kacher devices are getting more and more useful also.

  GiantKiller:  snake bitting its tale is what is happening alright.  What would be the advantage of the toroid shape?  It guess it may depend if the idea is to transmit the energy wireless, or to use a wired connection from the coils to the light bulbs. I was using small ferrite toroids at first as a trigger coil on my Exciter, but I'm not using them any more, as it is not really needed, especially when using higher voltages over 10 volts. My circuit fires right up with no more tuning or adjustments. It's just the transistor overheating that I'm concerned about.

Itsu: Nice video of your Katcher.  Does the longer antenna idea like you are using work additionally well for added power output? As there can be be some extra energy that may be harvested from the ambient, if the device is working properly.

  Here's a couple of pictures of my current set up, as well as a video of my Exciter running on no battery, as well as on a single homemade carbon/Al power cell. 
             Video:
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xur_VChGdzE&feature=youtu.be

  NickZ

Quote from: NickZ on 2012.07.12, 22:17:06
 GiantKiller:  snake bitting its tale is what is happening alright.  What would be the advantage of the toroid shape?  It guess it may depend if the idea is to transmit the energy wireless, or to use a wired connection from the coils to the light bulbs. I was using small ferrite toroids at first as a trigger coil on my Exciter, but I'm not using them any more, as it is not really needed, especially when using higher voltages over 10 volts. My circuit fires right up with no more tuning or adjustments. It's just the transistor overheating that I'm concerned about.

 Here's a couple of pictures of my current set up, as well as a video of my Exciter running on no battery, as well as on a single homemade carbon/Al power cell.  
            Video:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xur_VChGdzE&feature=youtu.be

 NickZ

Switch to the 3055 or IRF840s, 530s and retune. You got the heatsink there so use it. I use 12 ATV batteries.
For a current update I am modifying one of my stun guns to be the generator. Instead of letting the final / 3rd / discharge stage be the end I have directed the two ends into another larger spark gap / L / C like most of Tesla's Colorado Springs notes' schematics. I am mostly concerned with the series lc and tuning  into a fourth stage. As the voltage goes even higher with lower current then the new energy that Tesla spoke of becomes apparent. This is the TPU process.
So instead of worring about the generation and transfer stages focus on the discharge stage and how one can spread the final stage into multiple magnifying stages. The transfer and 1st discharge stage can easily be done with ignition coils. Not trying to change your direction just adding to the growth of your circuit and process.
Let me clarify:
The generation is the oscillator and inductive coupling to the spark gap stage, both are included. The transfer is the high impedance coil stage. Many fine windings with the high speed switching bounces the impedance even higher than just firing against a tuned coil. Let the spark gap be the worker not the transistor or the fet. By letting the spark gap ring the coil the transistor does not do the brute force work.
The ring shape gives an oscillating toriodal field with a compression center. Also the discharge stage can then feed or aid the generation stage by firing back into itself. Remember some of the TPU statements talked about the TPU creating lightning. Nothing fancy. The coils work naturally. Your setups already produce lightning.  O0

There is an interesting statement in the attached.

    @ GiantKiller:
   I don't understand Russian, but this video showing the lighting of a 60 watt incandescent bulb by a Kacher device has got my attention.  I love incandescent bulbs, and their quality of light.
  Reminds my of your circle with the gap, the slit copper tube they use inside the kacher.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sm-xKiStXBQ#!

  I just broke my favorite gutted CFL bulb which gave off a similar light (warm white light). Bummer!  But, I have a couple more of those warm white ungutted CFLs, that will also light off of my Exciter, even with their internal circuits still intacked.
  I managed to control the transistor overheating issue today by using a Ac to Dc wall adapter. It outputs 6 volts, and works almost as well as a 12v battery, but without the transistor going up in smoke and catching on fire. Maybe that's what they mean by kacher...

  What happens inside of the Exciter/Kacher coil is very similar to the workings of a toroid, as both types of coils compress and spin a vortex.  The straight tube does not need to be in circle, as it is already cylindrical inside.
  Here is a video that I just made showing the Exciter running on just a 5 volt cell phone Ac to Dc wall adapter.
  It's no wheres near the brightness compared to using a 12v battery, but it can run all night long without heating up the transistor.
  I also got my circuit going on solar today. Just using three garden light solar cells, to charge a Lithium 3 volt battery.  That worked almost as well on the Exciter as the cell phone charger to light the CFLs, and Leds, and with no heat build up, also
  My latest video:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnySZEno9W8&feature=youtu.be
 

Quote from: NickZ
I managed to control the transistor overheating issue today by
using an Ac to Dc wall adapter. It outputs 6 volts, and works almost
as well as a 12v battery, but without the transistor going up in smoke
and catching on fire. Maybe that's what they mean by kacher...

Aye, those hot transistor problems can be very difficult to diagnose
and cure without an oscillocope.

In order for the transistor to operate efficiently with the higher input
voltage it is necessary to adjust the biasing to assure that it functions
as a Class C (or preferably Class E) power amplifier.  Unfortunately most
simple regenerative oscillator circuits will function Class AB or B which
means that they'll run hot when the input voltage is upped.

With a scope it's possible to analyze the operational mode and add
certain components to "tune" the transistor for maximum output signal
while keeping it in the highly efficient Class C mode with narrow driving
pulses.

Without a scope there are things which may be done too.  I'll see if I can
find some simple diagrams to make the point.

In the meantime, as you've verified, reducing the input voltage always works.  ;)

The Wiki article provides a good explanation.

A page with some "tricks."

The other two pages are cool too - links at the top of the page.



The diagram above shows how "self-bias" can be added to a
transistor hookup between the Emitter and Gnd.  The resistor
may range from about 47 Ohms to several hundred ohms
depending upon the voltage powering the circuit.  The Capacitor
is typically about 0.01 uF to 0.22 uF for RF circuits.

The self bias will work to stabilize transistor operation when
the circuit is powered over a range of voltages;  the input supply
voltage may be reasonably increased without hazarding the
transistor.  Self biasing will tend to limit current pulses to a
fairly safe range.

  Dumped:
  I did something today that I think is a little unusual. I did not connect anything the the transistor base connection. And the Exciter fired up, but still overheats on 12 volts. Runs ok on 5 or 6 volts.
Slayer had mentioned that once the system starts that the base resistor could be removed and it would still work, but until today I saw that that can happen. All by accident. I didn't know it could even start without the base connected, as sometimes I tap an Av plug to the transistor control or emitter to get it going if it does want to start.
But it started all by itself, several times, with nothing on the base. I recall the Doc mentioning something about that also.  Makes me wonder if a just diode can be made to do the same thing.  And also what Gk had mentioned about using no transistor, just a spark gap, to avoid the transistor heating, and bypassing its current limits. If I understood him correctly.

 http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.msg23738#msg23738  (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=860.msg23738#msg23738)
The stun gun produces the high impact with very little stress on the transistor. But the discharge stage would be different. Your builds have the discharge stage with air core.  Your flux fields would be toriodal in shape but the ring would cause the head to bite the tail with a pole inside as a core and a pole outside as a sheath. Like leedskalnin's permanent magnet holder.
I posted the stungun link as a reference to Tesla's Colorado springs notes. He did not have transistors and depended heavily on final stage tuning.

Quote from: NickZ on 2012.07.14, 05:18:27
...
What happens inside of the Exciter/Kacher coil is very similar to the workings of a toroid, as both types of coils compress and spin a vortex.
...

Which facts could support the idea of a "vortex"?

  Good point about what facts back up the vortex idea of an Exciter/kacher circuit. However I'm not going to get into that for now, as I just want to focus on what I'm working on, without going off too far to prove a point, which I'm not really too sure or concerned about at this time.

   GK: Yes, if Tesla was able to do all that he did without transistors and such, it would lead one to believe that it is possible to produce similar results without using solid state methods, that have power limitations.

  The hang-up I'm having is with the transistor heat, and would like to stay on subject that until I resolve it.
I found that the guys using higher voltage Exciter circuits could only run them for a few minutes time, without a transistor meltdown, at 24 to 30 volts or higher levels.  It looks like capacitor filtering MAY be the solution.
I don't really want to place a resistor in line to drop the 12v or higher voltage, but to find a suitable solution to optimize the "effect generation", instead, which is already working fine, but with limited output.
Even that last video with the kacher lighting a 60 watt incandescent bulb only shows it doing so for a minute or less.
 
   If the TPU had a spark gap, there was no noise coming from it, as most of the other systems that use spark gaps have. Woopy's spark gap system seams to be very silent, and effective.

  I read the whole article on Testilian waves, but what are they, really?  There is a lot we don't know about, yet.

   

Quote from: NickZ
  Dumped:
  I did something today that I think is a little unusual.
I did not connect anything the the transistor base connection.
And the Exciter fired up, but still overheats on 12 volts. Runs ok
on 5 or 6 volts.
Slayer had mentioned that once the system starts that the base
resistor could be removed and it would still work, but until today
I saw that that can happen. All by accident. I didn't know it could
even start without the base connected, as sometimes I tap an Av
plug to the transistor control or emitter to get it going if it does want
to start.
But it started all by itself, several times, with nothing on the base.
I recall the Doc mentioning something about that also.  Makes me
wonder if a just diode can be made to do the same thing...

It sounds like what you're saying is that you removed the Startup
Resistor which connects the Base to Vcc in order to provide a small
forward bias to get the transistor conducting in order to initiate
oscillation.

Some transistors do have sufficient internal "leakage" from Collector
to Base and will start oscillation without an external startup resistor.
These transistors are nowadays rather unusual but back in the days
of Germanium transistors this sort of leakage was common.

There is variation in transistor characteristics even within a specific
type;  ie the PN2222.  Each transistor within a production run will have
its own individual specs which will differ from its neighbors slightly.
This is why in certain experimenter applications we find that some
PN2222s will work while other PN2222s will not; but all are actually
good transistors when placed in standard circuits.

Quote from: NickZThe hang-up I'm having is with the transistor heat...

Small transistor heating is the result of excessive current flow;  either
in the pulse magnitude or pulse duration, or both.

When pushed hard transistor heating is unavoidable.  In those cases
it is customary to place a "heat sink" on the transistor to help dissipate
the heat buildup.  With small transistors this may be as simple as a
piece of copper or aluminum carefully glued to the transistor body.
In years past there were special "slip-on" metallic heat sinks into
which the body of the transistor could be inserted.

To minimize heating of the transistor in power applications, such as
your Tesla Tower driver; adjustments must be made to the biasing
arrangement to minimize pulse duration and limit pulse amplitude.
Once oscillations start it is possible to transition the operation of the
transistor into solid Class C efficiency with the Self Bias RC combination
in the Emitter connection to Gnd.

The Capacitor in the Emitter connection will provide a low impedance
current path for the short drive pulses.  The Resistor alongside the
Capacitor will tend to limit prolonged current flow to a low and safe
level in the event the Base Drive pulses are excessively wide.

When carefully "tuned" the Self Bias circuit in the Emitter to Gnd
connection will tend to function as Differentiator where it presents
a low impedance to short pulses and a higher impedance to long
pulses.

This should enable increasing the applied DC Voltage to the transistor
without producing destructive heating.

Disconnecting the Startup Resistor once oscillations begin may be
helpful too in reducing transistor heating.

An alternative would be using a different type of transistor designed
to carry heavy current without excessive heat buildup such as the
Low Vce (Sat), High Gain small transistors (6 Amperes/60 Volts)
referenced earlier.

I have used the PN2222 very briefly in an application where it carried
approximately 10 Amperes of current in pulses shorter than 10 uS.
As I altered circuit parameters the transistor was eventually killed
by a large flyback spike.  It did run for several minutes though without
excessive heating before it was destroyed...

 As you mentioned, there are differences in even the same type of transistor, I've even seen that with the 2n2222, but now I'm using a pnp3906 type, which although works almost as well in reverse polarity with similar gain, it does not seam to be able to handle the heating quite as well. I've used many different transistors now, most of them do not work as well as the 2n2222 or equivalent ones. The MPSA06 is the normally recommended one, but I can't find those here, yet.
  Running  with no + connection to the base of the transistor seams to make no difference in output,  heating, or starting, in my case.
  Funny thing is that in the past I have been able to at times have my system going fine on 12v without the heat problem, but I still have not figure out what the difference was. It may just be the loading, also.
  Anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there in case someone working on this has found the solution.
The kacher video gave me some hope, as lighting a 60 watt incandescent bulb off of a tiny coil is a minor miracle.

  NickZ

You have an air core resonation producing rf. Leaving the transistor base flying in the wind of magnetic oscillations will cause the tranny to work.
Self trigggering, hmmm.
Now compare your circuits with the schematics in the Colorado springs notes or the stungutz picture. You only have the first 2 stages.

    GK:
   Yes, it's probably the leg of the base of the transistor acting like an small antenna, and thus self biasing, from the stray RF even if there is no positive battery connection to it.  It has been known to happen, I just happened on it by accident.  The RF affects all metal objects everything within a few yards range, which is a bit of a concern.  At least I don't feel any negative reaction from that type of radiation, but my Tv signal does, as it's on rabbit ears at the moment.
  So, what do you think is the cause of what was called the Testilian waves, if they are not EM waves of sorts?
What should we be shaking a stick at???  Can you venture an idea?
I've heard of non EM radiation. And as a dowser, I do feel there is more than meets to eye, or is detectable by meters, scopes, and other instruments that are available, as yet.  As an analogy, it's may be like the wind, you can't see it,  but,  you can feel it.

   NickZ

Quote from: NickZ
  Anyway, I just wanted to throw that out there in case someone
working on this has found the solution.

Aye, there are several solutions.

The MPSA06 is reasonably good for modest power levels as it
has excellent saturation characteristics.

The 3904/3906 types are not well suited for modest power levels.

There are several other transistor choices which will perform
well.  Here is one of my sources.

Good transistor selection and versatile biasing schemes
will surely make the desired difference.

Quote from: NickZ on 2012.07.15, 16:01:33
  Good point about what facts back up the vortex idea of an Exciter/kacher circuit. However I'm not going to get into that for now, as I just want to focus on what I'm working on
...

A "vortex"! Embarrassing question, isn't it?  ;D
At my knowledge, there is not one fact supporting this idea.

Quote from: NickZ on 2012.07.15, 20:18:38
...
Running  with no + connection to the base of the transistor seams to make no difference in output
...

The base of a transistor is always internally connected to the collector and to the emitter though capacities, and even to the case if it is metallic.
For example, 2N2222A from SGS:
C_eb=25pF
C_cb=8pF

When ever a greater pressure falls to a lower pressure we get a vortex.
Link to Viktor Shauberger and Walter Russel.
Fluid Dynamics http://www.evert.de/eft724e.htm (http://www.evert.de/eft724e.htm)
Walter's Periodic table of elements fits nicely onto Rodin's coil field array. Which by no streatch of the imagniation fits into the Alchemical Manual.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=walter+russell+periodic+table&id=E6C972649665FE5A31C0667010BDA9676E88B342&FORM=IQFRBA (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=walter+russell+periodic+table&id=E6C972649665FE5A31C0667010BDA9676E88B342&FORM=IQFRBA)

How does everything flow?

Quote from: NickZ
The kacher video gave me some hope, as lighting a 60 watt incandescent
bulb off of a tiny coil is a minor miracle.

That must be the video with the small coil which had what looked to
be a slotted copper tube inserted into the core.

I would really like to see that demonstration live* in order to verify
both the circuitry and its operation.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

*I'd like to be there in person to actually observe the circuit at work
and to verify all of the demonstration details.

  I don't know what you mean by "live" but, here is the link again, with the diagram at the very end of it.
I'm very curious about the whole device, as I haven't seen anyone light incandescent bulbs with a 2 inch coil.
He uses a # KT 805 Am  transistor , and a 3 k resistor. There's also a variable capacitor to tune the frequency.
It may be that the above transistor can handle the 20v, 1.1A, but who know...  Anyone speak Russian?
  link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sm-xKiStXBQ#!

   I'll also try to find something to back up the vortex idea, when I can.  Thanks for the links GK, I'll check them out.

 

Quote from: NickZ on 2012.07.16, 18:24:36
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It may be that the above transistor can handle the 20v, 1.1A, but who know...  Anyone speak Russian?
  link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sm-xKiStXBQ#!
...

What would be anomalous here? We see that the bulb is not very bright. Its brightness is fully compatible with a power of 22W.

 
"What would be anomalous here? We see that the bulb is not very bright. Its brightness is fully compatible with a power of 22W."

  Although it may not be as bright as a grid connected 220 60 watt bulb, I find it very interesting, none the less.
No one that I know of has been able to produce even this amount of light from an incandescent bulb, of any voltage, especially using a very small coil running on 1/10 the normal voltage for that bulb.

  The fact the Tesla had an electric car that could run at 90 miles per hour using NO battery, and Steven Marks produced many different TPU's that can light a bulb again with no battery, means that there is a lot more that we don't know.  Dr. Stiffler could light leds on practically nothing. 
   "We must learn to walk before we can run"...

  Dumped and All:
  As I'm still looking into the workings of the Exciter circuit operation, and how to be able to use 12v or higher input sources without the transistors heat issue, here is an explanation quoted from Dr. Stiffler concerning at least the resistors and the starting of the Exciter circuit. 
Although the Kacher may be somewhat similar in operation, in that it also uses a blocking oscillator, it may not really be the same, I don't assume to know.
The quote is given by Dr. Stiffler (below) explains the function of the 1 meg bias resistor on the transistor's base.

   "All the resistors are 1/4W and can be 1/8W. If you wanted to all the resistors (for test exploration only) can be removed after the Exciter starts oscillation. The 1M resistor is only needed to start oscillation at which point the transistor goes into a -R operational mode and does not require the DC bias offered by the base resistor.

This is not a conventional oscillator and (alpha) (gain) is not provided via the normals pathways. I keep correcting people on the assumption that this is a Collpits and even had one fellow fight that it was an Armstrong design. If one needs something conventional to feel good about the design is closest to the Clapp Oscillator. Although as with all my Exciters this is a -R Ultra Bandwidth Bifurcating Oscillator."

Quote from: NickZ
As I'm still looking into the workings of the Exciter circuit operation, and
how to be able to use 12v or higher input sources without the transistors
heat issue...

Transistor heating is the result of its operating in a "lossy" biasing mode
and/or pushing the transistor too hard (demanding too much power from
it.)  It may not be possible to attain cool operation of a transistor when it
is delivering significant power to a load - in which case some sort of heat
sink is needed to help remove heat from the transistor to prevent its
destruction.  It is possible to "tune" the biasing and feedback portions of
the transistor circuit to keep heat development to a minimum but without
an oscilloscope it is rather difficult.  It really helps to be able to analyze the
signal at the Base of the transistor when performing the "tuning."

Quote from: NickZ...here is an explanation quoted from Dr. Stiffler concerning at
least the resistors and the starting of the Exciter circuit.  
Although the Kacher may be somewhat similar in operation, in that it also uses
a blocking oscillator, it may not really be the same, I don't assume to know.
The quote is given by Dr. Stiffler (below) explains the function of the 1 meg bias
resistor on the transistor's base.

The "Kacher" method of providing regenerative feedback from the secondary
resonant coil may indeed be very similar to what Dr. Stiffler is doing with his
SEC devices.  The "Kacher" system works because of the nature of the 1/4
wave resonant coil (Tesla Coil) which presents its Low Impedance characteristic
at the Base of the transistor (Feedback Point) and its High Impedance characteristic
at the opposite end of the coil where high voltage manifests.

The 1/4 wavelenth resonant coil is not an effective "antenna" or radiator of RF
energy but it does produce a very powerful near field "induction zone" which is
capable of exciting fluorescent tubes and other devices.

Quote from: Dr. Stiffler"All the resistors are 1/4W and can be 1/8W. If you wanted to all the
resistors (for test exploration only) can be removed after the Exciter starts oscillation.
The 1M resistor is only needed to start oscillation at which point the transistor goes into
a -R operational mode and does not require the DC bias offered by the base resistor.

This is not a conventional oscillator and (alpha) (gain) is not provided via the normal
pathways. I keep correcting people on the assumption that this is a Collpits and even
had one fellow fight that it was an Armstrong design. If one needs something
conventional to feel good about the design is closest to the Clapp Oscillator. Although
as with all my Exciters this is a -R Ultra Bandwidth Bifurcating Oscillator."

Dr. Stiffler's explanation of the bias resistor function is conventional.  It is needed to
assure that the transistor is "turned on" initially to get the oscillations started.

The "-R operational mode" apparently means "negative resistance" while the "Ultra
Bandwidth Bifurcating Oscillator" is an unstable mode of operation characteristic of
certain microwave oscillators such as the Opto-Electronic Oscillator.  This explains
why the Spectrum Analyzer is essential to "tuning" the Stiffler Oscillator to attain
the broad spectrum output which signifies "multiple resonances."

Parametric Amplification?

In some of Dr. Stiffler's videos he replaces the transistor with a diode once it is
"tuned" and the circuit functions well.  This would seem to indicate that there is
parametric amplification or something similar going on.

  You know, when I work on the Exciter project, although it is a very difficult one to get working, optimally. It seams to me much more simple and easy to understand, then when words like -R Ultra bandwidth bifurcating Oscillator are used to explain its workings. Parametric Oscillator, and such.  Big words, for relatively simple concepts.
  There may be a difference to a regular RF or HF resonant circuit, as compared to a spacial coherance resonant circuit, but I understand the concept easier than trying to understand the description of it. 
  Thanks for giving me a hand with that...
 
   NickZ

Aye, the Exciter circuit which is essentially a Tesla Coil,
is much simpler than what Dr. Stiffler is aiming for with
his SEC/TSEC (PSEC?) circuits.

The Tesla Coil operates coherently at a single frequency
as determined by the coil dimensions and loading.

Dr. Stiffler's circuits have a very complex operational
mode which does enable the diode to function as an
amplifier when multiple frequencies interact properly.

I know, big words.  You know how Scientists are with
their egghead terminology!  ;)

good.