Assuming that the magnetic field was rotating would it make more sense to drag the field along the length of a wire ( horizontal collector) or to drag it over a wire at 90deg (vertical collector) ?
Hey DS
I sent a post on OU.Com an age ago and said exactly this in bold. No immediate answer as one may expect but DC out on the faraday unit sorta does this. Squeeze the hose by longitudinal compression, great idea and lets call it magnetoStriction. Better still lets stay inside the box and safely get nowhere.
Astronaut or astronomer, wearing the shirt or window shopping or man or mouse. We here mostly touch the stars and for an unfortunate few a burning we get.
After classing all replicators as dare devils and heroes is this the missing link?
Attention held someone here knows something to end the game. As has been posted very recently a thread on unexpected anomolies or observations needs proposing or maybe doing.
What do you think?
between 45 and 90 degrees based on precession as a requirement
Quote from: Grumpy on 2010.04.16, 19:02:20
between 45 and 90 degrees based on precession as a requirement
That is what i was thinking..
I was going back through the pdf with the alleged letters from SM and trying to see what added up.
If the magnetic component motion was circular in th X axis then the collectors should be vertical
and...
If the magnetic component was ( a-la-tesla ) pulsing up and down in the Y axis then the collectors should be horizontal
Unless....
The collectors needed to be 90 deg to the resonator to resonantly decouple them so as not to throw the frequency way off when someone touched the outer windings ( collectors )
:P
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Ok all you smart people....
What is the output difference between A and B? and why?
In fig A as the magnetic crosses the first wire do the other seven become the load on the output of wire one?
Just a thought, maybe you should try asking if it's possible to make all the other wires appear momentarily open circuit
http://members.tm.net/lapointe/Marx_Theory.html
Quote from: Peterae on 2010.04.16, 21:09:22
Just a thought, maybe you should try asking if it's possible to make all the other wires appear momentarily open circuit
http://members.tm.net/lapointe/Marx_Theory.html
Peterae - interesting idea...
Did you ever see the litz tank i built?
I am trying to figure out if there is not one diode per conductor if they will null a portion of each other.
If you look at Fig A as a gas dynamic and think of the diodes as check valves, then the pressure is distributed ( diluted) , but in Fig B the pressure is isolated.
Quote from: darkspeed on 2010.04.16, 23:30:00
...I am trying to figure out if there is not one diode per conductor if they will null a portion of each other.
If you look at Fig A as a gas dynamic and think of the diodes as check valves, then the pressure is distributed ( diluted) , but in Fig B the pressure is isolated.
Having seen the .jpg drawing in reply post #4, a theoretical question comes to my mind: looking at Fig A, with the apparent 'pressure(voltage?) distributed' would this also apply to a high voltage diode string rectifying a square/sine wave with voltage distributed across all diodes equally?
Wait. Those diodes I just mentioned would be in series, not parallel. That being so, in Fig. A, voltage could then vary across individual wires. This could be why multiple push-pull parallel transistor sets in inverters each has a base resistor to itself.
Also, in photovoltaic solar panel arrays, each module always has a blocking diode to itself to prevent battery drain at night. But, in that case, power spikes can burn out a single diode in an array unless the diode is big enough to handle the total power output---which can be relatively expensive.
Hi Ds
No i dint think i have seen your litz Experiment, do you have a link?
It's difficult to imagine he used a diode for each collection wire if there were indeed 1000's of parallel collector wires, each diode would need to be rated to carry the output power level or at least shared between a few at a time, i would only use more collectors if they all worked at the same time this way you increase your output level and spread it across the whole bunch of them, so if say a 1000 wires were in parallel then a field would be needed to sweep all 1000 at the same time or if a field could be produced to sweep maybe a quarter of the circumference then at least each quarter could be isolated and have a diode.
A question how would he be able to put the wires in series, to do this he would need a return leg back to the other side and this would cancel any induced potential, unless the return leg was outside of the inducing field area or magnetically shielded maybe.
Peter
Each wire end has two 1kv diodes + -
660 strands per wire
i use it for looking for small signals
Quote from: Peterae on 2010.04.17, 07:09:37
Hi Ds
No i dint think i have seen your litz Experiment, do you have a link?
It's difficult to imagine he used a diode for each collection wire if there were indeed 1000's of parallel collector wires, each diode would need to be rated to carry the output power level or at least shared between a few at a time, i would only use more collectors if they all worked at the same time this way you increase your output level and spread it across the whole bunch of them, so if say a 1000 wires were in parallel then a field would be needed to sweep all 1000 at the same time or if a field could be produced to sweep maybe a quarter of the circumference then at least each quarter could be isolated and have a diode.
A question how would he be able to put the wires in series, to do this he would need a return leg back to the other side and this would cancel any induced potential, unless the return leg was outside of the inducing field area or magnetically shielded maybe.
Peter
If the magnetic field is what i think it is it may be very narrow - but probably not narrower than one strip of 26 conductor ribbon cable... I was just thinking of all possible amplification
It also leaves us in a quandary as to where the OU part comes into play if it is indeed straight induction and collection with some rotation involved, so little real info is known.
One interesting clue that no one has mentioned is the magnetic shadow effect and that he destroyed loads of magnets to study it, this could well be the underlying mode of OU production, i believe he hinted at some technical papers in a university library or something, never heard anything about this effect yet is probably the most important aspect.
Even more annoying if SM is still alive i bet one of the Ouers lives within a stones throw of him somewhere without knowing, very frustrating having poor pictures/ videos and no verified technical data of mode of operation.
There were a lot of magnets in those videos...
There was mention of iron wire..
if you were able to sample a magnets energy at thousands of times per second it would really add up...
this has always bothered me
There was a Russian a long time ago that was using a tesla coils resonant pulse to disrupt ( turn off ) a magnets field.. i will see if i can find the info..
If you could turn a magnet on and off at 35khz that would be something!!
@darkspeed
I have 200 feet of 1650 strands of 44 awg wire ordered from New England Wire. It is a 12 awg equivalent that I think is on the FTPU outer ring. I need to do some more tests in that direction. Will cost about $300 landed. If "wire is very important", this should quality. lol
I brought up the single dioding to parallel dioding question on OU.Com also. On your Litz build you mention your diodes are 1kv rated but I think this is too much. I will be doing the same type of build but the diodes will be germanium so instead of requiring .7 volts, all you need is .2 volts. That's 333% less energy required to pass the diode right there. Otherwise, that .7 volts will still create the same effect of mutual wire to wire induction.
In your Fig A, when that magnet passes the first wire, the total wire system is energized. If in Fig B your diodes require .7 volts, then that total wire scheme will be buffered by the diodes until you have more then .7 volts. When you reach above .7 volts, that diode will act like a zenor diode in that condition because you are always going from zero upwards. But if in Fig B your diodes are germanium, then as soon as any small energy is available, it will pass and not be able to stay in the total grid, thus it will provide less total Lenz condition. Sorry if my thinking is low level but that's the way i see it.
Also, with a magnet over a wire, depending on how the magnet polarity is coming out, well either way, you do not want any of the poles to be perpendicular to the wire because let's say you use the north pole, it will send the field in both directions over the wire and this will result in a cancellation effect. All you want, well all you really need is 1/2 of one polarity, then 1/2 of the other polarity if the magnet is spinning. If it is traveling over a wire, you just need 1/2 a polarity. Actually a spinning magnet should have 4 (or multiples of 4) pick up coils to maximize the spin-to-energy-output potential. Otherwise you are turning a magnet with energy and not maximizing the potential return. If the magnet is turning on its blotch wall axis, I think the best pick up coil will be many bifilar wound coils with one diode on one coil and another diode on the other coil but on the other side. So one of the bifilar picks up the north field and the other picks up the south field and none will hold the charge so the charges leaves the system as it is produced. Hard to explain with just words.
pretty sure conventional EM induction is not a factor
Look at a battery, or even the photoelectric effect - no induction just conversion
Wattsup:
QuoteActually a spinning magnet should have 4 (or multiples of 4) pick up coils to maximize the spin-to-energy-output potential. Otherwise you are turning a magnet with energy and not maximizing the potential return.Actually a spinning magnet should have 4 (or multiples of 4) pick up coils to maximize the spin-to-energy-output potential. Otherwise you are turning a magnet with energy and not maximizing the potential return.
This is actually a popular misconception. Let me give you the train of thought. This is about pure classical induction, not sure if your real discussion is about this exactly, but it is worth mentioning anyways.
We assume the spinning magnet is getting its energy from some other source, it could be a pulsing drive coil or some other source of mechanical energy.
Now you look at the case of two vs. four pick-up coils. In either setup the pick-up coils have to drive some sort of an electrical load. So you could have a setup where each coil outputs 10 units of power into the load. With two coils you have 20 units of power and with four coils you have 40 units of power into the load.
However, you can just as easily have the two-coil setup outputting 2 x 20 = 40 units of power into the load, which would be equal to the previously mentioned four-coil setup.
The important point is that more coils can certainly increase your power output as compared to two coils, but you can't get more energy out of the spinning rotor. If you increase your power output then you increase the mechanical power drain on the rotor. There is nothing extra that you can get from four coils as compared to two coils, in both cases it is theoretically possible to have the same mechanical power drain on the rotor. Hence when you often read experimenters claim that they are going to add extra coils in hopes of getting free energy, they are believing a popular misconception.
Anyway, my old beaten-horse comment is that for any kind of motor setup with pick-up coils people should start playing with different load resistors. You don't even need the full-wave bridge rectifier, that's just used by default by lots of experimenters when you don't really need it.
Imagine a typical home-brew Bedini motor or some other type of pulse motor. If you have a nicely coupled set of pick-up coils, and you find the right load matching resistors, then chances are that the motor will come grinding to a halt. That might surprise some people. Get the motor up to speed with no loads on the pick-up coils and then flip a switch to engage the matching load resistors and watch the motor go thunk-thunk-thunk and die. That's because with well-coupled pick-up coils and matching load resistors can burn off more power than the drive coil can supply all by itself. The motor slows down under load, slowing the energizing pulse rate which lowers the supplied power. This causes a positive feedback loop that goes in the "down" direction and the motor eventually stops.
The other popular misconception is that if your pick-up coils have more turns you can get better performance from them. It's not the case. The most important factor is the geometry of the coils, not the number of turns. You want the loop of the coil to be as big as or bigger than the front face of the rotor magnet. As long as you do that, then you can decide how many turns you want to meet your desired output voltage at your desired RPM. Obviously if you need a large number of turns then you start getting more resistive losses in the wire of the coil itself. There are ways around that though.
MileHigh
Hi EM
Interesting idea on the use of the SBM
As far as I can tell a single balanced mixer multiplies the Local Oscillator input with the RF input. Granted the output sum will be high in voltage amplitude, but will also be highly load sensitive (high impedance output) therefore there can be no power gain, and assuredly a small loss from diode drops etc.
Expanding on your idea and considering application to the FTPU, lets say one of the loops on the spool feeds the Input,and the Output drives the second loop on the spool. If the coils were phased for positive feedback, this would cause regeneration via air coupling between the coils and voltage multiplication in the mixer.
Probably would be best for the output loop to be parallel resonant (high impedance) and the input coil to be series resonant (low impedance). This would be an optimum match the characteristics of the mixer.
Could you expand a bit on the thought process that led you to the single balanced mixer as a possible TPU solution?
Thanks
As will happen, this topic got buried and no one commented on the SBM idea by EMdevices or the comments I added. Give it another look as I did some editing and added a schematic.
Here'e another version showing how the mixer transformer can be a CM choke as seen in SM's FTPU
Some may find this article interesting
http://www.crystalinks.com/levitationtibet.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/levitationtibet.html)
ION
I am in Love with your last diagram
Anyone see an old post i made regarding the OTPU legs
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=38.msg237#msg237
Looks like i may have a new way of capturing the energy from the kick.
I already have circuitry creating the Aetheral event, i just need magnets near the event to couple the common mode choke to the event to capture and convert the energy into a usable form.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=272.msg3783#msg3783
Quote from: Peterae on 2010.08.12, 19:46:09
ION
I am in Love with your last diagram
Anyone see an old post i made regarding the OTPU legs
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=38.msg237#msg237
Looks like i may have a new way of capturing the energy from the kick.
I already have circuitry creating the Aetheral event, i just need magnets near the event to couple the common mode choke to the event to capture and convert the energy into a usable form.
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=272.msg3783#msg3783
I thought I could just apply an orthogonal mag field and convert it but this has not worked out yet. This has led me back to "rotation" as a requirement and my initial direction.
G I have a feeling it will work for me, the reason being that when the event occurs i get a tug on a neo magnet, if i bias the common mode choke using a magnet that is close coupled to two event coils i should be able to focus the event energy and try conversion, it is in effect causing a very similar thing to rotation but the movement is converted to linear motion within the legs.
For a long time I thought dual rotation was required in the OTPU, that is, around the vertical axis and the poloidal fashion. I'm still convinced the OTPU is practically the inverse of the others with rotation still being a requirement.
However, a few months ago I settled for the only rotation being poloidal.
Things don't need to rotate to cause rotation.
I like your thinking Peter.
Peterae, thanks for your comments, I may have another schematic coming, having given it more thought.
I certainly remember your post regarding the leg of the TPU and the TV ferrite coil.
There are several factors that make this arrangement interesting. I think most may have missed it. I will list them:
1) Voltage multiplication of the mixer. This allows regeneration when the loop is closed.
2) High current oscillation in the series resonant loop (creates high current that couples back into core via single turn, low impedance of series resonance.)
3) High impedance of parallel loop. Allows the regenerative effect to occur and create quite an electric field since the impedance can rise to near infinity, limited only by the "Q" of the tank.
4) Coupling between the two resonant loops.
5) It is the high current in the series resonant loop that creates the heating effect.
Peterae...where could I find a sketch of what you are now working with? Has it been posted on OUR?
maybe I missed it but am very interested.
Hi ION
Yeah i could see where EM and yourself were pointing with the mixer, it is very unlikely i am clever enough to get that working so will let you guys carry on your great work.
Thanks for the interest in my circuit.
All the circuits are in my bench, for the above video link the setup is relatively simple.
Here's a brief discovery path.
I built a nS digital Monostable capable of nS pulse delay and nS pulse width control, when 2 of these are fed from a single pulse source one module can be swept on the delay thus phase delaying one channel by 0-255nS, width also has a setting of 0-255nS although after fet stages minimum is about 60nS, I use a micro board to automate the thumb switch increment for phase scan.
Circuit of Digital Mono Board
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=217.0
This led to the discovery of a very sharp pulse appearing using both channels to drive either a bifilar or connecting together to drive one coil, i have loads of videos of this, when one coil was driven by both fet channels every now and then a burst of RF would be released at certain phase delays which caused my electronics to become unstable, this caused random firing of the fet stages, during this random firing of sharp pulses i heard explosion noises from a 22 turn piece of wire wound on a wooden former, i could also hear white noise from the coil.
The Pulse with videos
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=37.0
This was the Explosion in the wire first discovery video
I heard these explosions when i first started TPU research by mixing Fundamental, 2nd and 3rd harmonics in a coil wound on a ferrite ring, the explosion noises were weak and coming from the core. Fundamental Freq was about 35kHz
I then decided to inject white noise into each channel of the digital mono. it occurred to me that SM's discovery path was probably to inject white-noise into his bifilar speaker coil, the digital mono was only really producing narrow pulses i didn't need to use the phase delay for this, with the white-noise generators i could now produce the explosions by driving bifilar coils, before with the re triggering i could only get it using a monofilar drive coil.
White Noise Module
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=273.0
With both channels being driven by white-noise generators the video was taken of the resulting crackling noise from the single core coax which had the bifilar wound axially for the coax length.
Note a 20 Ohm load resistor was across the 1 loop of coax inner wire and was scoped to produce the video
Regarding the FTPU and OTPU, it is doubtful there were any large batteries in these devices. Yet the OTPU windings got hot while in operation.
It would seem that energy is being absorbed from somewhere? and some of it was dissipated in the windings.
For this reason I have confined myself to what can be done with a small battery (say 9V or smaller) as a startup device to initiate some type of absorption of energy. This starter battery could have been hidden in either FTPU, OTPU or subsequent devices.
I have refrained from using large power sources as an initiator, because i don't see this happening in any of SM's devices. I was doing high power testing early on but have abandoned that for a more gentle approach to the problem.
It is logical that the small power source may have been used for some type of oscillator. It may also have been used for a high voltage step up circuit that contained an oscillator. Lastly it may have been used merely to create a DC bias. Any of these could be used to initiate a heretofore undiscovered process that absorbs the energy from somewhere? and releases it for utilization.
Considering the first possibility, the power source for a low power local oscillator as part of a Single Balanced Mixer that was set up with positive feedback loops for regeneration is a reasonable approach.
Quote from: Peterae on 2010.08.12, 21:18:21
G I have a feeling it will work for me, the reason being that when the event occurs i get a tug on a neo magnet, if i bias the common mode choke using a magnet that is close coupled to two event coils i should be able to focus the event energy and try conversion, it is in effect causing a very similar thing to rotation but the movement is converted to linear motion within the legs.
At 4kv and about 30kHz rep rate, that "tug" gets pretty serious.
Rotation adds other things that only exists in rotating systems.
One might say we are building a model of a particle. They are perpetual too.
Quote from: ION on 2010.08.13, 13:18:08
It is logical that the small power source may have been used for some type of oscillator. It may also have been used for a high voltage step up circuit that contained an oscillator. Lastly it may have been used merely to create a DC bias. Any of these could be used to initiate a heretofore undiscovered process that absorbs the energy from somewhere? and releases it for utilization.
Considering the first possibility, the power source for a low power local oscillator as part of a Single Balanced Mixer that was set up with positive feedback loops for regeneration is a reasonable approach.
exactly!
old topic i know
but how many turns per collector do you guys think i should start with...
is that metal or magnet wire that i circled (nah i decided that that is silver colored speaker wire strand)
steel wire ???
if so does that mean there is iron wire wrapped around for control coils
On overunity.com there were theories that the tpu used iron wire in its constriction none worked out.There were theories on control coils ,they didn't work out. Here is a picture of the two toroids used
in the big tpu,notice that the white wire is neatly placed across the toroid on the right side.On the left side the white wire,is sloppily placed across the toroid.Notice to that the white wire goes across the right toroid directly across.On the left toroid the white wire is not directly across the toroid .The question is why,I have my theories as to why,what are other members thinking on this.
my idea was that these where transformers rather than chokes ..because why would you try to get a amp reading off a choke.. and i also think that the emails from sm don't go along with the collector design.. because on the mtpu was like brian collins said 99% cork... ( in between top and bottom ) cause it took him longer to cut thought the top and the bottom than it did the middle on the 15'' unit.. ion said the spark jumped off the left torroid to the base.. i saw that and thought that would be a transformer problem rather than a choke issue when turning off the unit.. i've spent 25 hours reading though the forum on sm tpu stuff before asking any questions.. i lost a lot when helene hit north carolina and when i went to overunity.com to get a lot of my circuit diagrams back.. i found out the website was lost.. give me some time to recover some equipment and i will be back working on this tpu.. it really reminds me of the 3 transformer design i made in 2009 which was based off a tube audio amp ... i really thank you for replying to me..
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.02.22, 01:45:38
On overunity.com there were theories that the tpu used iron wire in its constriction none worked out.There were theories on control coils ,they didn't work out. Here is a picture of the two toroids used
in the big tpu,notice that the white wire is neatly placed across the toroid on the right side.On the left side the white wire,is sloppily placed across the toroid.Notice to that the white wire goes across the right toroid directly across.On the left toroid the white wire is not directly across the toroid .The question is why,I have my theories as to why,what are other members thinking on this.
There were cabinets magnets inserted into each TPU that stuck. Watch the videos again. This adheres 100% with the Kunel patent. It takes an EMP('lightning from the sky' to quote SM) to break the flux connection in space/ Kunel air gap. 'Broken fuses make great spark gaps' to quote SM. The TPU is wound like a circular Tesla coil. The center toroids are the feed coils of the Armstrong oscillators into the two huge charge pumps which the large rings are part of. The large caps and diodes are by the inside edges of the outer ring. Each cap also has the necessary bleeder resistor on it.
The secret is to not allow the flux to keep its density in a central core material. Diffuse it in to space so it can be modulated. Review the High Q multiplier circuit.
'It really is quite simple' to quote SM. He never argued with any of my posts.
Why would he tell you how to build a tpu,that was how he made hes money,by
tricking investors and giving them nothing,a coman of sorts.
The toroids have very little inductance I demonstrated this,due to how there wound.
A lot of mythology about the tpu has come over the years,SM did not
know how the tpu worked only that it worked,he stated this,during when
jack durban posted on overunity.com.The tpu is not related to any other
device,except the KAP device.This is why its more than 20 years and nobody
has figured how to make one ,I don't follow myths.I can never understand why
people can't see what a liar SM was or is.Also under conservation of energy
and matter,no free energy devices can exist,however energy converters
can exist,example solar panel,light energy into electrical energy.
For the tpu to be real it has to be an energy converter,the energy that
it converts must be close,I think its gravitational energy to electrical
energy.It will require a new theory of gravity in a local area.
is it just vertical windings on this tpu .. maybe its a redesign of the previous one with horizonal windings.. ?
Here is a video I made a while back,in my opinion the tpu generates large
current pulses.Most things of the tpu fall under conventional theory,however 2 things
don't, current amplification and a gyroscopic effect.How the coil is wound
does not matter only that you have a parallel wire like in a lamp cord
wire,this forms a transformer of sorts the primary wire supplies strong current pulses to the secondary,this feeds a rectifier and capacitors.Each current pulse charges the capacitors, this charge powers the florescent light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJpVNd2w84Y
This is on the small tpu,all real tpu's have a torroid.
In my opinion the torroid is like a transistor,with a transistor you need resistors,capacitors,inductors to make a circuit work.In my opinion
the tpu is an energy converter not a free energy device.I also believe
the tpu was not perfected enough to be able to sell it or manufacture it.
Keep in mind most of the parts came from radio shack,when someone tries to
replicate the tpu they forget what was available with radio shack at the time.
In my opinion there are 3 parts to an overunity device.
1. A basic unit ,you input ac or dc and get out more than you put in.
2. A start circuit is needed to start the device
3. A looping circuit is needed to keep the device running with no external energy inputs
This applies to the kap device.
1. In the green box video there's a basic device,the input is less than 100 watts,the output is 5,000 watts.
2. The green box is started by a 12vdc to 220 vac inverter powered by a 12v battery,you could plug it into the 220 vac outlet also.
3.Theres a transformer 220vac to 12 vac with a bridge rectifier in the 12 vac part.
The output of the green box is hooked to the 220vac input of transformer, the 12vac of the transformer goes
thru the bridge rectifier to the input of the inverter,this forms the looping
circuit.
I found an interesting circuit for a buck converter it uses a 12 volt relay
it came from a YouTube short.I modified a few things, ideal for a start circuit.
A small buck converter changes the 9vdc from a 9 volt battery to 12vdc or higher this goes to the relay
the relay circuit goes to over 100vdc very fast.A solid state start up circuit
would be better, however I want to keep things simple,with very few parts,also a start up circuit would be used very little.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.05.30, 03:55:17
In my opinion the tpu is an energy converter not a free energy device.
What energy does it convert to electric energy ?
Verpies,gravity is the energy source,you can not overcome conservation of
energy and matter,no free energy devices are possible,in my opinion.I believe
both
the tpu and the Kapanadze devices are powered by gravity,there is a close
connection between gravity fields and
magnetic fields.Heres a thought experiment,I have a solar panel 100 watts
hooked to a few lights drawing close to the current the panel puts out
in direct sun light.The panel is turned side ways now the lights dim or turn
off.You removed or weaken the source of the energy,sun light.In a first tpu
video SM turns the first tpu upside down and it stopped working.In the
aquarium Kapanadze device video,they have a 2kw heater hooked up and turned
on,as they lifted the plastic box and turn it sideways,the heater turned
off.When they
turned it back the heater came back on.The tpu has a gyroscopic effect
indicating a gravity interaction from a device made up mostly of wire.
In the Kapanadze device it has a separate wound coil in the tpu the coil is
wound in a circle,the gyroscopic effect occurs in the coil.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.05.31, 00:24:40
Verpies, gravity is the energy source,
Gravity is a conservative force field. What goes up, must come down.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.05.31, 00:24:40
you can not overcome conservation of energy and matter,
...but matter can be converted into energy. For example, that's where the energy to power your solar panels comes from.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.05.31, 00:24:40
The tpu has a gyroscopic effect indicating a gravity interaction from a device made up mostly of wire.
Why immediately "gravity" ?
Our common experiences tell us that gyroscopic effects are caused by spinning masses.
It seems that the natural association of a gyroscopic effects would be with mass and rotation or spin. The latter motions can be macroscopic or microscopic but macroscopic spin or rotation seem to be excluded because they are not observed in this system.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.05.31, 00:24:40
In a first TPU video SM turns the first TPU upside down and it stopped working.
This time, gravity forms a natural association with this behavior even if it influences mercury in a switch.
However gravity is not the only field that can influence a physical system when turned 180°.
Electric and magnetic fields (constant or varying) can also influence physical systems, e.g. as in FID, EdH, etc... These fields affect matter's internals much more than gravity.
Moment of inertia during the turn can influence a mechanical system, too, but that is not an influence on matter's internals.
Considering the above, gravity is not the exclusive influencer nor the most plausible one.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.05.31, 00:24:40
...no free energy devices are possible, in my opinion.
Shall I cancel your membership then ?
Verpies,as for free energy I don't believe you can get something for nothing.
Most free energy devices try to get around some law,never has worked.
Do I believe you can have a device that appears to be a free energy device
absolutely.I believe the tpu and Kapanadze device are as close to real
free energy devices as you can get.The concept of gravity as an energy
source is a bizarre concept never the less I believe this is the case,what do you
believe powers the tpu and the Kapanadze device.Whatever powers the Kapanadze
device is
very powerful the one in turkey was over 100kw.In fusion in the sun ,hydrogen
is combined into helium the energy comes from the binding force since it
requires less energy to hold protons near each in helium,its given off as
excess energy,
energy was not created it was recycled,which is what the law says.
Matter into energy ,energy into matter your not creating energy only
recycling it.Well on the tpu turned upside down and turning off you maybe
right.On the Kapanadze device it clearly shows the 2kw heater turning off I believe
there was a clearer video made but can't find it.Whatever powers the Kapanadze
device has to be very close to the Kapanadze device whats closer than gravity to it.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.06.01, 06:11:13
Verpies, as for free energy I don't believe you can get something for nothing.
Matter is not nothing.
Quote from: Cheappower2012 on 2026.06.01, 06:11:13
Matter into energy ...
... you're not creating energy...
Correct, conversion is not creation ...but I never mentioned creation, so why are you arguing against it ?
Verpies,There is no argument, energy can change its form into mass ,mass can change
into energy.
I mentioned creation of energy as an argument against free energy since
energy can not be created or destroyed,it can only change its form.
This setup will pulse the toroid from 1 Hz to 11 Hz
adjustable.The aluminum platform that the SM toroid sits on
may play a part as the toroid creates eddy currents in an
aluminum plate placed on top of the toroid in my set up.There
are other things needed to connect to the toroid to get a
possible effect,this setup is to investigate if there is an
effect.
Steven Mark had to,in my opinion used one of these 3 methods to pulse the toroid,in my opinion.I View the toroid like a transistor
,you need other parts to get it to work,likewise with the toroid.The magnetic field,a repulsive field at the cross section,I believe
has an effect on gravity,which I think is the source of the energy of the tpu.If I'm correct
the how to pulse the toroid is very important.I view
the tpu as a current amplifier.
1.Use a high current SCR they had them in the 1990's
2. Use a high current relay
3. Use a xenon strobe circuit,it works,but pulses are
weaker than other ways.
The strobe board ,I added 2, 100 mfd flash caps and reduced the value
of a resistor to get faster charging of the caps.
you can get a pulsing but its weak.
The relay circuit,very strong pulses,I added a variable
pulse rate circuit.
One speculation is gravity is bent by the repulsive field of the
toroid,it is also fragmented,the bending causes the gravity field
to travel along the wire,causing a push, the gravity field is
fragmented,it can not push atoms.However it can push free electrons,as this gravity wave moves thru the wire,more and
more electrons are pushed,this causes a current increase,the
length of the wire plays a big part in the operation of
the tpu and the Kapanadze device.The current amplification happens
in the coil.In my opinion there is a close relationship
between gravity and magnetic fields,if you could bend
a gravity field could you not create a lifting force,pushing objects away from the earth into space.