For those who may remember Theoria Apophasis or Ken Wheeler who wrote a book on Magnetism and posted for awhile on overunity.com you may be familiar with this man who is truly genius (based on his background and his writings that is my opinion). He has a new youtube out 3 days ago. He has 305,000 followers so I think he has captured a fair audience on his youtubes which is a lot more than most of the free energy related videos that cover real information and not just fake gadgets. I think there are likely some real genius level people on this forum also but Ken Wheeler is ... if nothing else a very deep thinker and it would seem really has great knowledge on magnetism and related info.
His new video is titled "FREE ENERGY & OVER-UNITY PROOF. Point Source Energy" in which he states you cannot have overunity without the Aether. I think you may find some interesting info in his video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq7pw1LBlaM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq7pw1LBlaM)
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Quote from: stivep on 2023.12.28, 13:07:07
Here is what he says about himself in his own words:So he says he is the enthusiast that in my words:
- knows how to play out smoothly, a scenario , in the style of a "talking head."
- heavily colliding with known, accepted and recognized physics in certain areas to the point of total rejection by these skilled in art enough to see it.
physics rejected term "overunity" as colliding with 2nd law of thermodynamics.
physics rejected term " eather" as an old outdated, disproved, concept form 19th/early 20th century .
Wesley
Well Wesley, Verpies, and others of like mind are in the wrong place to be repeating your book learned conventional ideas, and, to be preaching your stuff to us here. This is a free energy forum, remember.
Your ideas are not needed, not welcome, either. Nor will ever produce a self runner, nor OU.
The only thing that is disproved, is your attitude here. And the many times you've said the same BS about zenneck waves, and transferring energy from point A to point B. And telling us that TK is lying. You are so full of it... I asked you to prove your claim. But, you will never do that.
Boring...and not free energy, at all.
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Then if this free energy forum is "nonsense", to you, and you say that there is no need for OU, nor free energy needed, nor possible, then why are you here?
Like Chet told you, if you make a claim be prepared to show it doing so. So far you have not ever done that, as yet. But claim that zenneck waves transfer, are responsible for what Kapanadze has shown. Which means that he is lying, as you see it. While you are providing NO Proof.
That is what is nonsense, Wesley.
NickZ
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Quote from: e2matrix on 2023.12.27, 23:59:42
For those who may remember Theoria Apophasis or Ken Wheeler who wrote a book on Magnetism and posted for awhile on overunity.com you may be familiar with this man who is truly genius (based on his background and his writings that is my opinion).
Forum guidelines prevent me from stating my true opinion of this person, but "genius" is the last word that would come to my mind.
I do recommend that anyone interested in what this guy has to say find the thread at OU.com (if still available) and read that thread before blindly following what he has to say. The "evidence" he presented in that thread (and in his book) to support his assertions was easily refuted with facts to which he responded with the rudest and most profane posts I have ever read on OU.com. I was surprised it was allowed on that forum...
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He has 305,000 followers so I think he has captured a fair audience on his youtubes which is a lot more than most of the free energy related videos that cover real information and not just fake gadgets.
I certainly hope we have not reduced the determination of credibility or scientific accuracy to the number of "followers" someone has on a YouTube channel.
Long before the internet, there were those that had "followers". It usually did not work out well for them...
PW
I did have conversations years ago with Ken ( on phone)
Discussing his Bismuth and Magnet ( strong neodymium) and "Heat ?" claims.. which at the time were amazing claims which seemed True ( his very expensive thermal imaging camera as evidence), as I recall his claim that magnetic field is always ( ?) in motion?
And it would therefore generate a heat anomaly when presented with the opportunity to engage with Bismuth ..( his thermal imaging camera seemed to support this claim)
There were many replication attempts (by physicists and layman) in caloric vessels.
Not one Caloric test showed this anomaly.. I remember asking him in a phone call for suggestions to help verify his "obvious" ( to him) results...
Was the last time we spoke.
I believe member TinselKoala pointed out a _reflective_ artifact ( heat signature ) which such cameras can exhibit ..
And I believe he looked up the exact make and model which Mr.Wheeler used and found an addendum related to infrared and artifacts ( a memo)
This seemed the only explanation at the time .
Respectfully submitted
Chet K
PS
Sorry for off topic "a bit"
However if Mr.Wheeler has any experiments which can be independently verified ( replication (s)?
Open source FE community would be very appreciative!
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Quote from: picowatt on 2023.12.28, 20:10:05
Forum guidelines prevent me from stating my true opinion of this person, but "genius" is the last word that would come to my mind.
I do recommend that anyone interested in what this guy has to say find the thread at OU.com (if still available) and read that thread before blindly following what he has to say. The "evidence" he presented in that thread (and in his book) to support his assertions was easily refuted with facts to which he responded with the rudest and most profane posts I have ever read on OU.com. I was surprised it was allowed on that forum...
I certainly hope we have not reduced the determination of credibility or scientific accuracy to the number of "followers" someone has on a YouTube channel.
Long before the internet, there were those that had "followers". It usually did not work out well for them...
PW
There was a certain person on the OU forum that seemed to fancy himself as the top 'guru' and when Ken Wheeler came on there it seemed the 'guru' who I won't name was threatened that his superior position was fading and he went on the attack of Wheeler in a very nasty way. If I recall Wheeler's wife had just died and this 'guru' called Wheeler a liar about that and was very abusive to Wheeler. It appeared the attack was intended to infuriate Wheeler to the point he would leave. So if Wheeler was talking sh*t back it is no surprise. So you may not know Wheelers background but genius or not he has written some very deep thought books and does translations other languages. Just one example: "Pythagoras, Plato and Pythagoras, Plato and the Golden Ratio" subtitle "The Golden Ratio and the Pentagram in the philosophy of the Pythagoreans"
Other books with links:
Monistic Metaphysics of the Sakya disciples
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z_ZzRX2V8zuZHbacYA60kSPGFQ6zLUeh/view
ON ANATTA/ANATMAN in fact and doctrine. Against modern Buddhism
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I32V1pAVgNznEL1aHDIoMC43vyHR_O96/view
The Assassination of the Buddha
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O_JsQXV_F3eR5LWXG2NEAA8IoyKGC5oL/view
The Alpha & Light Simile in the Root Doctrine of the Atman as Highest Teaching. Egyptian & Indian
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DAwaVLNrPwt67ns75UlL4Gl6og-lMTmN/view
PROFESSIONAL ENNEADS IN GREEK
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S_jEAbkNyvNjtHtFr6OUjzRaaSfHMUUu/view
SECRETS OF THE INDEFINITE DYAD IN PLOTINUS' MYSTICISM AND METAPHYSICS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1igB4Lc00TkU11Lc3KuShbJiqKhMPB4UO/view
Aurea Sapientia explaining the universe:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NXMM8GjqiFsg8KeayUFId6YtrP873PRl/view
TOPMOST BOOKS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C_wgNprUYtREQgVpInCQp2_Fi0HRMUTT/view
CORE OF ORIGINAL BUDDHISM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mQHI4L6xe4FM7VxF0DxiIaGDB2E19T_Q/view
PARAPHRASABLE CORE OF ORIGINAL BUDDHISM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tzoHeRhRkcrf_sylBGlTmx0eKxM1tNsA/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ORboa2cgko_xjdfGgW9pi33cturzAJyf/view
AUTHENTIC DHAMMAPADA TRANSLATION
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_0c8OmA7h8DOYdHy3Evfo7NgO72f-NIX/view
AUTHENTIC EIGHTFOLD PATH
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1opFSmkGudEWJhcaZ0c3rCVzQH7pbrhwk/view
THE EMERALD TABLET
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mf1pS1e0tN3jDoZLeYwo7dl4D6smvoTu/view
METAPHYSICS OF GHOSTS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1efL7wW2WxLwYyto3oPmVJ0kiYv-xshEL/view
GRAVITY DEFINED
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16B5Ec8fvVdurp87DsdYMb5Ma0BUWl8RI/view
AVIJJA AND MONISTIC EMANATIONISM IN ORIGINAL BUDDHISM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sSCq8TmvBE8u975GqPgyQkRv9H_oCX27/view
GOTMA IS MARA, IS EVIL IN THE NIKAYAS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IraeukZj0THhQvrehbJxbUrCy_3mL-9a/view
AGAINST ATHEISM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fnPGjNePPRVIMPjD93Ttgzo3p_ASk5Fk/view
NOUS/CITTA/SPIRIT IN ORIGINAL BUDDHISM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DQl3D8ChW7610C4RKjlckJwNJm8hvHFx/view
Download my FREE BOOK: Uncovering the Missing Secrets of Magnetism 3 rd edition:
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Download my FREE Field Definitions article here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K_0zJJd4U1QKpl8aHeZlIJebmKCttZtk/view?usp=sharing
IMPORTANT PASSAGES OF THE NIKAYAS, MY TRANSLATIONS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1il2gky4P4-MXtM72MngS47sYhDaf0Vz4/view
SELECT PLOTINUS TRANSLATIONS
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FJ_hWJCh6WxrDf7AfdD5nOGV1AAKDzvA/view
PYTHAGORAS PLATO AND THE GOLDEN RATIO
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R8MViUqHJXzmtPs4AORGXUAgGUSSru5x/view
SENTENCE SEGUES
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BJMZSt0LGkMzGIzQB0BLbAOh0oEzLBhf/view
THE SECRET OF WATER
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1plnTHFFXuc3zSvLGfpK-b-FeToEFbeRK/view
ORIGINAL BUDDHISM & ATMAN DR, AKC
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ORSdqJ-1LmVMgAHwYiRt0SwqeHIiRM6F/view
ORIGINAL BUDDHISM DR, AKC
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZZwozWViHtwolDHzM8GB1qgWfKbLkOh/view
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Quote from: e2matrix on 2023.12.30, 07:12:58
There was a certain person on the OU forum that seemed to fancy himself as the top 'guru' and when Ken Wheeler came on there it seemed the 'guru' who I won't name was threatened that his superior position was fading and he went on the attack of Wheeler in a very nasty way.
I don't recall anyone attacking him as you state, but it was some time ago so my memory may have faded regarding that.
However, I do recall that any refutations of the claims he made using his thermal camera, or that a large neo magnet was able to bend a laser beam, were met with all manner of foul language and personal attacks from him.
If a claimant is presented with evidence that proves their claim to be false, and that claimant responds with ad hominem attacks and foul language rather than simply admitting they were wrong, I tend to take the rest of their claims with a grain of salt...
PW
picowatt
QuoteIf a claimant is presented with evidence that proves their claim to be false, and that claimant responds with ad hominem attacks and foul language rather than simply admitting they were wrong, I tend to take the rest of their claims with a grain of salt...
Indeed, if a person talks and acts like a six year old then it's easy to assume they also think like one.
I suppose if nothing else it makes our job of spotting the con men and fakes much easier. For example, the majority of real FE inventors most likely to have working technology were always calm, mature, well spoken and knowledgeable. They never forced there ideas on others or threatened people. They simply made there claim and said we can take it or leave it.
Key point, it was never about people or there beliefs it was always about science, technology and understanding.
AC
The idea here was to point out that Lawrence Livermore achieved a net energy gain in a fusion experiment using lasers on as well as several other confirmations of this method. More power out than in. I was not trying to promote Ken Wheeler as much as I am saying here is another very educated person that despite a bit of ego and his demeanor that is not uncommon among high IQ individuals (is that how you judge everyone AC?) who is saying the Aether (or zero point or whatever other name you may want to call it) is going to need to be involved to get extra energy. My other reason for starting this thread was to point out that here is someone else beside Merlynn talking about the Aether and how it may be the real source of any extra energy. I would suggest that unless you have achieved a good amount of overunity you might want to consider other opinions on how to achieve that.
Dear friends ,
I know Mr.Wheeler from the internet for about 12 years.
He repeats the same things again, again and all over again.
You will never ever get any valuable information , about FE or OU from Mr.Wheeler.
He can translate Greek , can speak Rusian and has some knolege about magnets and magnetic fields.
He offers books , free of charge , and he is a really good guy...however,
Theory is theory , and repeating stuff all over again for 12 years..will not solve anything.
You can get your hopes up....if you want..but that will not do any good.
Stay Safe.
Best regards.
@Sollaris1989 :-*
Quote from: e2matrix on 2023.12.30, 22:28:10
The idea here was to point out that Lawrence Livermore achieved a net energy gain in a fusion experiment using lasers on as well as several other confirmations of this method. More power out than in.
Just to be clear, they proved that a specific amount of energy delivered to their target, arranged as it was, can induce fusion and release more energy than the amount of energy that was delivered to the target. In this sense, there was a net energy gain, i.e., more power out than in.
However, the methods used to generate the energy delivered to the target (lasers, etc) were very inefficient. The "wall socket" to fusion output efficiency was less than 10%.
PW
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Wesley
If you are now writing that this Zeneck is FE?
Here is appropriate board for that
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4560.msg109928;topicseen#msg109928
Will be interesting to see what has changed since last replication attempt ( that would be good place to start
As all parties involved are still available to comment!
Apologies to E2 for off topic
Note : here as yet undefined ( by main stream) gain mechanisms
can be referred to as whatever the claimant wishes ( Aether etc etc)
No one will argue that point ( initially)
However as it becomes more understood.. it may fit into places already defined within the box ..
Also RE MerLynn claims, that is still ongoing off forum ( hopefully this next year a visit to site .
Respectfully
Chet K
one person said that perpetuum mobile is not exist because it violates the law of cause and effect as well.
https://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=64:682:217#217 (https://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=64:682:217#217)
I'm going to toss one more morsel out there for consideration and this is NOT from Ken Wheeler. So how about info from a man who is a qualified Astrophysicist and Aerospace Engineer, whose name appears on several patents and patent disclosures. He spent over 30 years working for the US government under the waived unacknowledged special access program known as Majestic. a "black projects" program of the US Navy.
"MAJestic has driven the Research and Development efforts of American companies for decades now.
MAJestic has provided Velcro, LED's, fiber optics, computers, integrated circuits, artificial intelligence, nano-technology, carbon
fibers, and many more "everyday" technologies that are in daily use. But this organization is involved in much more than that. The
organization is in the process of developing "Star Trek" technologies such as "teleporters", "warp drive", and other technologies
that are considered so advanced that they are the realm of fantasy.
Everything you Know is Wrong.
Everything that the reader knows, think they know, read, and have studied is all wrong. It is wrong. That is the best and only way
that I can say it. What we think we know is in complete variance to the true and real reality.
The truth is that, at best, humans understand only the most trivial of the mechanics of the universe. The use of a computer instead of
one's own brain to derive Maxwell's equations is a pure example of this. We think we are masters of our world because of the tools
that we fabricate. That is like saying that your wife is a gourmet chef because she makes a "killer" tuna casserole.
It's not true. Not at all. So for starters, let's knock the human understanding of itself down a notch or two. Humans know diddly
squat about reality. We know jack shit.
I ask the reader to imagine that everything that you have learned about the world, science, the universe, man, history, and religion is
WRONG.
It is wrong.
It is wrong, wrong, wrong.
It is all WRONG!"
Info from the books and website of Robert Vannrox.
So after all these years if we haven't found a way to produce the energy we seek maybe it is time to consider the Aether or other things not taught in 'science'.
e2matrix
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Info from the books and website of Robert Vannrox.
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It's your thread ...
Got a link ?
Respectfully
Chet
To the New Year ( for us earthlings
Quote from: Chet K on 2024.01.01, 01:44:11
e2matrix
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Info from the books and website of Robert Vannrox.
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It's your thread ...
Got a link ?
Respectfully
Chet
To the New Year ( for us earthlings
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0645310212
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0645310239
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0645310247
Note that it is a bit complex about how long he worked in Majestic - links above will show 20 years but I've seen 30 more often and in some ways he is still working with a 'special' group going on 40 years. I mention this because on Amazon you'll see reference to 20 rather than 30 as I posted above.
One more for new ways of thinking. The book titled: E Squared Nine Do It Yourself Energy Experiments That Prove Your Thoughts Create Your Reality
Attached below.
And "Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science
becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the
universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man."
—ALBERT EINSTEIN
And I'm sure most members here are familiar with Charles Steinmetz, mathematician and electrical engineer and professor who fostered the development of alternating current.
"The greatest discovery and development of the coming years
will be along spiritual lines. Here is a force which history
clearly teaches has been the greatest power in the development
of man and history, and yet we have been merely playing with
it and have never seriously studied it as we have physical
forces. Some day people will learn that material things do not
bring happiness and are of little use in making men and
women creative and powerful. Then the scientists of the world
will turn their laboratories over to the study of the spiritual
forces. When this day comes, the world will see more
advancement in one generation than it has in the past four."
—CHARLES PROTEUS STEINMETZ
Quote:- Despite all this hype, we appear to live in an electrically charged universe.
If your going to fill peoples heads with un proved negative info presented as facts please make sure it's fact and not claptrap sudo science fiction BS.
Many thanks Sil
https://energywavetheory.com/explanations/aether/
Quote from: Chet K on 2023.12.31, 17:34:04
Wesley
If you are now writing that this Zeneck is FE?
Good question
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2024.01.03, 07:24:03
Quote:- Despite all this hype, we appear to live in an electrically charged universe.
If your going to fill peoples heads with un proved negative info presented as facts please make sure it's fact and not claptrap sudo science fiction BS.
Many thanks Sil
https://energywavetheory.com/explanations/aether/
The site you linked seems to be more of a debate about whether the aether exists or not without a definitive answer. As seen in the paragraph below taken from your link it posits that it can exist depending on some factors:
"The aether exists and it is the medium for propagating light and other longitudinal and transverse (electromagnetic) waves across the universe. It is the fabric of our universe, consisting of tiny granules that transfer energy in the form of waves. Its structure and properties were worked out in the section on spacetime. In fact, it has a density property in the wave constants that appears in all of the energy wave equations. Without an aether, or without this density property, none of the calculations performed in this theory would be possible. Therefore, there must be an explanation to the null Michelson-Morley experiment if the aether exists."
It's also funny that the video on that page you linked about the Aether concludes that the Aether
does exist. Did you even watch that video? In that video it mentions the Nobel prize winner Lorentz concluded that the Michelson-Morley experiment failed to consider length contraction. It also quotes Einstein as saying "We may assume the existence of an Aether".
I would ask that until someone can definitively prove it does not exist that you may want to consider it is a possible source of overunity power. As they say "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
Quote from: e2matrix on 2024.01.03, 17:52:02
The site you linked seems to be more of a debate about whether the aether exists or not without a definitive answer. As seen in the paragraph below taken from your link it posits that it can exist depending on some factors:
"The aether exists and it is the medium for propagating light and other longitudinal and transverse (electromagnetic) waves across the universe. It is the fabric of our universe, consisting of tiny granules that transfer energy in the form of waves. Its structure and properties were worked out in the section on spacetime. In fact, it has a density property in the wave constants that appears in all of the energy wave equations. Without an aether, or without this density property, none of the calculations performed in this theory would be possible. Therefore, there must be an explanation to the null Michelson-Morley experiment if the aether exists."
It's also funny that the video on that page you linked about the Aether concludes that the Aether does exist. Did you even watch that video? In that video it mentions the Nobel prize winner Lorentz concluded that the Michelson-Morley experiment failed to consider length contraction. It also quotes Einstein as saying "We may assume the existence of an Aether".
I would ask that until someone can definitively prove it does not exist that you may want to consider it is a possible source of overunity power. As they say "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
So you need to calm down before you blow a fuse!
The link is just a link that looks at both sides, The word Aether or ether
is a American terminology over here its the environment or dark matter
all the waste energy ends up in it, we need to suck zero point from that store be fore it destroys the planet or the demy gods with there toys in uniforms do it for us. Do you know now? O0 O0
Sil
Just a note to Members and OP regarding past experiences etc with persons not involved in this forum ( in this case Ken W and links to battles at OU.com)
Please no reboots of fights or conflicts from other forums ( cross forum battles not permitted)
It is too easy to turn topics ( and forum) upside down .
Best to just move forward... in the theme of FE research .. no stone left unturned.
That being said ..if there is something Mr.W has presented which can be shared towards this FE goal ( tested?)
Please do .
Respectfully
Chet K
We don't know how our space works, we don't know what exists besides our Universe.
In what way do we exist? What is the density of vacuum? Why do we move from the past to the future through an immeasurably short moment in time of the present?
How was our space formed? Of what?
Was there a "big bang" or was it something else?
If you think that it was a long time ago and far away, then it is not so.
Has the event called the "big bang" ended?
Or do we live in it, here and now?
And we don't know just how to produce light. While we are still being told that light and heat come all the way from the Sun to the Earth. Which is NOT true. Square of the distance must not apply, then.
So much for the scientific method...
We are also told that our tides are produced by the pull from the moon. Again, this is NOT the cause. Nor is there any proof of any of this, either. Just as there is no proof of there ever being a big bang, either. All just BS.
Good job cows cant fly >:-) O0
The light comes from higher charged particles falling into lower ones when they hit the atmosphere, something like that.
I have already explain how light is manufactured on our planet. And does not come from the Sun.
So, I will not explain it again.
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2024.01.12, 18:52:14
I have already explain how light is manufactured on our planet. And does not come from the Sun.
So, I will not explain it again.
NickZ
it's something like, when charged partials hit the upper atmosphere where they lose energy and emit light similar to Rory borealis. According to research.
Have you got a pointer to your hypothesis or hyper link?
Sil
Read the book called Oahspe. Meaning Earth, Air and Spirit.1000 pages of objective truths.
The original creators of the term "Starship".
Online pdf, OAHSPE.
Books are nice
Experiments to show a theory
Much nicer IMO
Gravity and attraction?
Nick
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We are also told that our tides are produced by the pull from the moon. Again, this is NOT the cause. Nor is there any proof of any of this, either.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=70-_GBymrck
I like presenters comments, show the brutal honesty of science and physics ( theory's and "truth")
Steve
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EDIT: I want to address the comments that say gravity isn't a force, it's the curvature of space time. There's an interesting philosophical point here. The way I think of it is this (I'm not the first to say this but I can't remember who was): physics just gives us models for how the univers works. None of them are "true" but some of them are useful. Newton's model of gravity that describes it as a force is really useful. It doesn't work in certain circumstances. Einstein's model, that describes gravity not as a force, works in more circumstances but is more cumbersome. You pick the mode that best suits what you're doing. In this vide Newton's model is the most appropriate in my opinion. So talking about gravity as a force is perfectly reasonable. Like, imagine being in a physics lab with some springs and pulley or whatever, and you're trying to balance the forces, and every time you mention the force of gravity, someone pipes us and says "I think you'll find gravity isn't a force". That person is unhelpful. Other commenters are saying gravity isn't a force for another reason, which I believe is related to a non spherical model of the earth that they believe in. We can safely ignore those comments.
Here's a fun fact: if you scaled down the earth and moon system until the earth was the size of a bowling ball (keeping the density the same), it would still take the moon 27 days to orbit the earth. This is true in general. Like if you scaled down the ISS as well, that would take the same 90 minutes to orbit as it does now. It's true at any scale, not just bowling ball scale!
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Another fun fact... Gravity is a misnomer. There is no such thing as what is called gravity. Nor is there a pull from the center of the planet. Wrong conclusion, once again.
The main Earth Vortex is what causes the inward push, that is called gravity, which is not a pull, as science explains.
NickZ
Words
are just words , if there are experiments which
Require these words to succeed ?( I hope not)
Experiments which work or show an anomaly ,Regardless of the words or phrases,or persons!
That is all most care about,
a _result_!!
which is a new gain mechanism...heretofore not understood , or new to science!
If your theory requires a different path ( wired or arranged etc etc) to show an empirical result/gain mechanism
That is no problem.
If words are now some hill to die on ? Or perpetually fight over ...
I certainly hope not !
Results are all that matter.
Respectfully
Chet K
Quote from: NickZ on 2024.01.13, 19:21:47
Another fun fact... Gravity is a misnomer. There is no such thing as what is called gravity. Nor is there a pull from the center of the planet. Wrong conclusion, once again.
The main Earth Vortex is what causes the inward push, that is called gravity, which is not a pull, as science explains.
NickZ
I came to the same conclusion and we could ask what attraction is fundamentally. In fact, what we falsely call attraction is an external force causing two objects to move towards each other as a push-pull.
Here's a clue, if we dug a hole through the Earth and jumped in we would fall towards the center and remain there. You see after we passed Earths center we would be rising towards the other side of the Earth not falling. In fact, the force we call gravity always moves objects towards the mass center of other objects not the surface. Now, if we fell to the center of the Earth and remained there then logically there is no gravity at the exact center of the Earth. Which may explain why our planet has a moving molten metal core where the heaviest elements gravitated to the core and got stuck there.
From these kinds of examples and thought experiments we can learn quite a few useful concepts.
AC
The aether, as I understand it, is a primordial energy that pervades the universe, and can be accessed or provoked and channeled into various states, making COP>1 possible. I would say the term overunity is problematic, because it is generally used within a closed system frame of reference, suggesting that such a system is producing more output that is put into it.
However, in reality, while entropy and system losses are undeniable, no system is completely closed to the all-pervasive presence of aether.
It's just a matter of interacting with the aether in the proper way to bring excess charge into a system to produce COP >1, which some call overunity. No laws are broken if we take the aether's limitless potential into account and practice intellectual honesty in acknowledging that every system has open system characteristics, despite all efforts to be closed to outside forces.
Quote from: Bob Smith on 2024.01.13, 23:31:59
The aether, as I understand it, is a primordial energy that pervades the universe, and can be accessed or provoked and channeled into various states, making COP>1 possible. I would say the term overunity is problematic, because it is generally used within a closed system frame of reference, suggesting that such a system is producing more output that is put into it.
However, in reality, while entropy and system losses are undeniable, no system is completely closed to the all-pervasive presence of aether.
It's just a matter of interacting with the aether in the proper way to bring excess charge into a system to produce COP >1, which some call overunity. No laws are broken if we take the aether's limitless potential into account and practice intellectual honesty in acknowledging that every system has open system characteristics, despite all efforts to be closed to outside forces.
I completely agree with you. The material world is male and females are the energy in physics this would be the nucleaus and the electron cloud that is much lighter in mass near it to hold everything together, clockwise and anti clockwise infinite currents being continuously compressed together by energy of the medium to create more "children" in the marerial word we call atoms and above. Sometimes this does create a child in an unpaired electron. That forever emits its signal that it wants its anti spinning partner to be complete. I mean look at how electron ANTI spinning pairs form perfect bonds and this unique electron pair bond emits in the nearby Aether so much energy that it forms a scaffold to hold otherwise the same charged cloud of electrons AND protons together while everything wants to fly apart if there was no spin. However from time to time in this sea of energy you have an unpaired little spinning electron a child of this marriage of infinite harmony and spin. A new child is born in a higher level of this energy spectrum, one that was born out of pure energy itself. And all it wants is its own counter spinning electron to bond with, so it can hold the maaaaasively larger nucleus together. Without the electromagnetic nature of these electron all atoms would have no structure and fall apart but this what we now call dark energy is what hold everything together and created more children aka lone spinning object that seek their anti spin partner to form more energy.
So free energy was always in plane sight. get two magnets that are opposite to each other and you creat something like an electron pair bond extracting untold amount of "free energy" which was always there to begin with as spooky "dark" energy we dont understand. Everything repeats on ever level from atoms to cells to consciousness to massive galaxies to universes. Each another scale of how two spinning anti poles create massive energies that serve as the scaffold of the very univers we live in. What we call the Aether is the energy field that is holding matter and dark matter together. If you do the math this is terrifyingly accurate in how much percent is dark energy and matter.
What was needed to build the scaffold to bring the big heavy male and the light female the electron together. Electrons spinning anti each other. So if we want to liberate this ocean of energy we need to bring two anti spins together and how not more simpler than by using a large magnification of the electron namely a permanent magnet.
Does the earth's rotation direction affect for propagation of Zenneck surface waves ?
@Bob Smith
In science, a theory is only necessary to explain new facts or facts still unexplained, and it must be formalized to be useful, that is to say to be able to express quantified experimental results, and therefore to be able to access the rank of "theory".
Until now ether is presented to us as a wordy and vague concept into which everyone puts anything. Note that I am not opposed to the existence of an ether, but as long as it remains in the larval state because those who talk about it do not define it and experimentally we do not need it until now, it wastes time in our quest for FE.
What are the facts that current theories would not explain and that the theory of an ether would explain, and how? What new does the concept of ether predict and according to what formalism?
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re last two posts
What on earth are you pair on about and what does it have to do with extracting energy from the 'electric universe', absolutely nothing.
Sorry fellers but your having a laugh, and filling peoples heads of those who want to learn with utter irrelevant junk that's nothing to do with energy extraction from the environment.
if i was Chet I think I would just erase the last two posts of pure junk, and force you two to have your posts inspected and vetted before publication.
Sil
All his posts are absolute junk. His only point is to show that he can not produce any electrical output using any means. But wants us to know how smart he is.
NickZ
Quote from: AlienGrey on 2024.01.03, 07:24:03
Quote:- Despite all this hype, we appear to live in an electrically charged universe.
If your going to fill peoples heads with un proved negative info presented as facts please make sure it's fact and not claptrap sudo science fiction BS.
Many thanks Sil
https://energywavetheory.com/explanations/aether/
And is why the original pyramid builders were so much more advanced than our best scientist today. As they had priest/scientists. Not limited in their use of non material science and knowledge. That current science is ignoring,
on purpose, today.
Pyramid were used as Stargates to other worlds and to non physical dimensions in space. Like in the movie Stargate.
Telepathy and other things were used to communicate instantly between worlds, dimensions, and different time zones.
Merlynn is not the only one that believes in an Aether...and, in multi dimensional space.
Current science is still wondering if we are alone in the universe...
Duh!!! They must think that we are like dumb kids to fool, as long as possible.
NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on 2024.01.29, 14:02:31
And is why the original pyramid builders were so much more advanced than our best scientist today.
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Disinformation, and of no use for producing free energy.
Quote from: stivep on 2024.01.29, 01:59:52
These waves do not radiate in 3D space called free space. they are waves trapped in the waveguide commonly in TM mode.
But our waveguide also travels together with the earth in the speed roughly one thousand km/h.
And in which direction it moves is never mind ? And what is the reference point for the Zenneck wave?
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Lots of copy and paste, but, not even the tiniest LED shown
lighting for free.
Wesley, did you get carried away on your waveguide?
NickZ
Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2024.01.29, 15:45:12
But our waveguide also travels together with the earth in the speed roughly one thousand km/h.
And in which direction it moves is never mind ? And what is the reference point for the Zenneck wave?
Indeed, many people have trouble wrapping there mind around abstract concepts of motion.
Since we and the ground were standing on is actually moving at thousands of km/hr through space a true braking action with respect to space could appear to us as an acceleration. In effect, we could come to absolute rest in space and the rest of the nearby material stuff keeps going.
Which is just another reminder that were immersed in a sea of energy. All energy relates to the motion of something on some level however the concept of motion is relative.
https://www.space.com/33527-how-fast-is-earth-moving.html
QuoteAs well as moving around the Sun, the Sun and Earth are orbiting around the dense center of our galaxy at some 447,000 miles per hour (200 km/s). Our galaxy, in turn, is moving relative to the other galaxies around us, and so all the mass in the universe is continuously dancing around.
Everything in the universe is, therefore, in motion.
AC