Rossi admits e-cat device is non-nuclear; not LENR -Sterling

[PhysicsProf]

From PESN:  http://pesn.com/2012/03/11/9602054_Rossi_Tells_Florida_Bureau_He_Has_No_Factory_No_Nuclear_Reactions/

Includes an apology from Sterling Allan.

I should note that I have been warning about Rossi's claims of a proton-nickel reaction, while refusing to provide gamma spectra, for over a year.

Rossi Tells Florida Bureau He Has No U.S. Factory, No Nuclear Reactions

An inspector from the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control said that Rossi told him "No nuclear reactions occur during the process;" and "There are no radiation readings above background when the device is in operation;" and "Currently all production, distribution and use of these devices is overseas."


Here is an Google satellite view (see red "A" half way up and 2/3 to the right) of the condo listed as Leonardo Corporation's headquarters at 1351 Lincoln Rd., Suite 505, Miami Beach, Florida. Street view shows them to be apartment housing, not office complexes.


By Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News

Yesterday, the New Energy Times published the following statement regarding Andrea Rossi and his E-Cat:

   Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the Energy Catalyzer, told an inspector from the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control that he has no factory in the United States and that no nuclear reactions occur in his devices.

  Rossi's statements contradict nearly everything he has said in the last year about his claims of a factory and his development of a low-energy nuclear reaction device.

   Rossi told the bureau that his device produces thermal energy of six times the electrical energy input. However, for the last several years, Rossi claimed nuclear reactions occur in his device.

   The bureau responded to a citizen's complaint, made by Gary Wright of Las Vegas, in February. New Energy Times obtained the report from this blog. Wright was concerned that Rossi's device had failed proper nuclear certifications or, if not, that Rossi was committing fraud.

I looked through the very lengthy report surrounding that complaint and follow-up. It contains a detailed review of Andrea Rossi's claims and dealings with the E-Cat, as well as some of his previous work with biofuel and waste to energy. It documents extensively the fact that 1) Andrea Rossi has been claiming nuclear events in his E-Cat process, and 2) Andrea Rossi has been claiming the establishment of U.S. manufacturing.

An inspector from the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control, Jim Stokes, met with Rossi in Rossi's Miami apartment on Feb. 29, 2012. Here is the concluding text from his report that is included in the aforementioned collection, along with official insignia:

   "I spoke with [Mr.] Rossi concerning the construction and operation of his E-Cat device. He stated the active ingredients are powdered nickel and a tablet containing a compound which releases hydrogen gas during the process. [Rossi states that] the output thermal energy is six times the electrical energy input. He acknowledged that no nuclear reactions occur during the process and that only low-energy photons in the energy range of 50 to 100 KeV occur within the device. There are no radiation readings above background when the device is in operation. Since the device is not a reactor, the [Nuclear Regulatory Commission] does not have jurisdiction. Since there [are] no radioactive materials used in the construction and no radioactive waste generated by it, the state of Florida Bureau of Radiation Control has no jurisdiction. [Rossi states that] currently all production, distribution and use of these devices is overseas. [Rossi states that he] has arranged to meet with Underwriters Laboratories (UL) to seek approval for manufacture in the United States. I thanked [Mr.] Rossi for his time meeting with me."

Let me enumerate some of the most obvious contradictions by Rossi:

   * "No nuclear reactions occur during the process." This contradicts his earlier claims, and it contradicts what other researchers are finding and reporting in similar set-ups. If he was not lying to Jim Stokes, then he has been lying to all the rest of us. Reference: Replicators (as of January 12, 2012) - An annotated and linked list of reports of 14 people who have achieved a Ni + H reaction. (NickelPower)
   * "There are no radiation readings above background when the device is in operation." This contradicts earlier claims, and it contradicts what other researchers are finding and reporting in similar set-ups. Such a measurement is a key signal that the technology is nuclear, and valid as claimed. When I was at the October 28, 2011 test in Bologna, I talked to the guy making background radiation readings for the test, and he said that gamma radiation had been measured more than a year ago from the E-Cat when Rossi still allowed the reactor to be open. Since then, it has been shielded, and no radiation has been detected coming from the unit during operation. Defkalion's 3rd party testing presently under way in Greece includes the detection of gamma radiation as evidence of the nuclear events taking place. Maybe according to Stokes, gamma radiation doesn't count as "nuclear". At least from a regulatory point of view, it is essentially benign at low levels.
   * "Currently all production, distribution and use of these devices is overseas." This contradicts Rossi's public claims of establishing manufacturing in the US; and it contradicts his claims of the technology being tested by UL (a US company), mentioned in the next sentence. How could they test it if they are not "using" it? Considering his intention to manufacture in the U.S., if indeed nothing is happening yet (which is not how he has portrayed this publicly), he should have replied, "Not yet, but let's stay in touch."

Anyone who has been following the E-Cat saga can see how blatant these contradictions are that Rossi made to Jim Stokes compared to what he has said to all of us over the past year.

For example, in his March 2 interview with Ruby Carat of Cold Fusion Now (after his meeting with Stokes) he said:

   "The robotized line is already under construction. The factory will be in the United States of America, the E-Cat will be a Made In The USA product, both in the industrial and the domestic version."

If he was trying to get out of having to come into compliance with nuclear regulations, that seems unethical. Anyone dealing with nuclear processes needs to jump through the necessary hoops to be legal and to assure the customer that they are safe. Because the gamma radiation is so low, and can be shielded easily, it shouldn't be that difficult to jump through the needed hoops. I can't fathom that he was just being lazy and hadn't even considered this before Jim Stokes showed up. He should have been able to say, "Here are the measures we have taken so far."

These contradictions remind me of when he gave me permission to post http://leonardo-ecat.com as his official site on 11.11.11, then later that day started telling people that he never authorized the site. I have a recording of the Skype conversation in which he gave me that authorization. Despite what you think about how adequate the site I prepared was, he loved it, and gave his thumbs up the morning I announced it. Then when negative comments started coming in, he publicly said he never approved it.

Not only does he seem to change his story to suit his purposes and present circumstances, but he also seems to think nothing about backstabbing people who are genuinely trying to help him. I'm not the only victim and witness to that behavior. It seems to be his modus operandi with many of the people he works with, from what I can tell through the various conversations I've had with multiple people. He is not a team player.

He deserves credit as a pioneer in the Ni-H LENR field, but I don't have high expectations about his ability to pull off a successful launch of a company that will introduce this product to the market. These attributes of misrepresenting himself and backstabbing are not only show-stoppers but are also detrimental to the LENR field as a whole.

I'm taking the E-Cat out of our Top 5 and am dropping it low among the runners up. I've also added this to the Buyer's Beware page. He may still surprise us and end up pulling something off, but I don't think it is likely.

I apologize to anyone that I've encouraged to try and do business with Andrea Rossi, and I retract my endorsement. At the same time, I hope, for the sake of the planet, that someone might come along who is able to interface with Rossi and help him make some important course corrections and clean up his act and pull off a successful introduction of cold fusion technology to the marketplace.

[Farrah Day]

Lies, lies and more lies, eh!

Sterling, 'retracts his endorsement', lol.  Until the next time eh, Sterling.  Does any one with half-a-brain really take any notice of anything Sterling endorses?  

Makes you smile doesn't it. Seems like the penny might have finally dropped for Sterling on this one. Better late than never - unless of course you are one of those unfortunates who have already donated or invested in Rossi, due to Sterling's, 'endorsement'.

How - in the real world - can this incompetent fool think that he has the necessary credentials for endorsing anything? The mind boggles!

[muDped]

Aye, that may be true.

But Sterling gets people talking and expressing
opinions about his "News."

He ignites controversy and drama.

Eventually all is "exposed."

It's more about Commerce than Science...

[BEP]

Eventually, all will be exposed. I doubt it has been, to-date.


Who says low level Gamma is a concern of the NRC?

Who says 'reaction' must be nuclear?

As for having a production line being assembled but no factory to place them... so what? That is the normal way things work. What isn't normal is no indication of an actual future location being announced. Well, I can think of when that is normal.

He is obviously a snake but maybe smarter than he seems. If you had something that actually put more out than in wouldn't you explain it in a more believable way than just 'more out than in'? If there is any truth to such a claim he SHOULD lie about it until he has made substantial sales. Otherwise, he would have no more chance than any other that might have been true.


I'm not surprised at the backtracking. That is SOP in this field.

No, I never believed his claims anyway 

The story isn't over, yet.

[Farrah Day]

Aye, that may be true.

But Sterling gets people talking and expressing
opinions about his "News."

He ignites controversy and drama.

Agreed, he certainly does that!

[exnihiloest]

Great news, Sterling is becoming a skeptic!
http://pesn.com/2012/03/17/9602058_Howard-Johnson_Magnet-Motor_Scam_Hosted-by-Clickbank/


If he continues in this way, he could remove from his site 95% of the subject matter, which is either scams or nonsenses.