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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #100 on: 2018-10-15, 03:31:13 »

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Oh yeah, I had forgotten about the GK4. 

Anyway, it's to show that a changing electric field interacts with a static magnetic field.

The different TPU configurations all place a rotating electric field perpendicular to a static magnetic field, and so do both of spherics' devices.
   
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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #101 on: 2018-10-15, 03:56:34 »

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Marco's dancing magnets.
A lot has gone by. I still ponder over powering up the GK4 again. But then I realize I can just jerry rig the door switch on my microwave oven to leave the door open to reproduce the same event.
My 48v GK4 test had led me to believe that one could use lower voltages. And they can.
But the additional angular alignment is then added to the mix. I forgot about the Spherics too. And I had posted about this of the GK4 being a randomized open face microwave then Spherics showed the actuation of control angles to enable the event in controlled manor. That is when I knew Spherics was in the atomic sciences.
Any way back to bench for me right now. I have to test my HVPS to find the higher possible operating voltage limit.


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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #102 on: 2018-10-15, 22:28:58 »

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If I had time, I would wind up a TPU with the collector in the center like SM described to prove it works. 

Three horizontal collectors, electric field coils (sequentially pulsed) wrapped around the collectors, and the static magnetic field around the electric field coils.  Poloidal winding is a pain though.  Probably do the e-field coils in segments and then run the control coils through them and pull them into a circle.
   
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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #103 on: 2018-10-16, 20:27:41 »

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The electric field coil can be wrapped on polystyrene tubing the slipped over the collector.

Or just use radio shack wired spools.

I have alot of these in inventory that I will just pull out and do a test.

This way a copper or FE collector will show the difference.

I have a number of these in posts across the planet.

Don't want to search that out but skip the distractions.
But really don't need a full TPU to show this. An single turn FE loop with a shack spool on it would suffice. Got that in inventory too.


But the real secret is using the FE wire instead of a plasma core.


Status on HVPS: Works great. Burnt a 5w ceramic resistor open.


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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #104 on: 2018-10-25, 05:54:31 »

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Performed high voltage DC test of 200 VDC. zero amps read. test


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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #105 on: 2018-10-25, 19:53:36 »

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Next combination.

These tests will not produce amperage as there is a break in the flux line, one with the power supply and two with the amp meter.


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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #106 on: 2020-08-17, 23:33:17 »

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Hello everyone,
Been juggling too much life lately and have to take a break.
I got to wondering about injecting 2 mixed frequencies into a single Tesla coil primary then splitting them into tuned tanks of the dual secondaries comprised of twin lead antenna wire. Its a Tesla coil with an air core.
I have seen very complicated radio circuits that deal with multiple frequencies but i am trying to keep it simple.
The drawing shows how simplistic I want this to be. I tried modelling in Falstad simulator but there seems to be inherent misgivings about its operation.
If a single primary is not possible then I added the dual primary design.I start with a secondary that is already built. It is 5" diameter and an inductance of 18uh and 53 turns. There is an inherent capacitance of 290pf. The primary is 16 turns of a single side of lamp wire.
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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #107 on: 2020-08-18, 00:15:38 »

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Interesting thought!

Will your secondary windings differ to accommodate the two
separate frequencies?  Tuning Capacitors?

Will the two frequencies be fairly close or possibly harmonics?

Are you aiming for the typical High Voltage Tesla Coil output?

I believe it will work.  The concept certainly works with Audio
Transformers.  Multiple frequencies that can be individually
tuned and isolated.

And it works with Receiving Antennae.  Well, sort of.  The Antenna
doesn't resonate at all frequencies but they can easily be
individually tuned and isolated.  Aboard ship we had a single antenna
feeding numerous separate receivers operating at different frequencies.

Some of our Transmitting Antennae were "broadband" and could be used
with several different frequencies at once.

Yes, it should work!


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Re: LTPU Center Toroid Breakout « Reply #108 on: 2020-08-18, 01:55:39 »

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Quote from: muDped on 2020-08-18, 00:15:38
Interesting thought!

Will your secondary windings differ to accommodate the two
separate frequencies?  Tuning Capacitors?

Will the two frequencies be fairly close or possibly harmonics?

Are you aiming for the typical High Voltage Tesla Coil output?

I believe it will work.  The concept certainly works with Audio
Transformers.  Multiple frequencies that can be individually
tuned and isolated.

And it works with Receiving Antennae.  Well, sort of.  The Antenna
doesn't resonate at all frequencies but they can easily be
individually tuned and isolated.  Aboard ship we had a single antenna
feeding numerous separate receivers operating at different frequencies.

Some of our Transmitting Antennae were "broadband" and could be used
with several different frequencies at once.

Yes, it should work!
In regards to the two secondaries there will be an offset.
At the start this is a bailywick since I only have the secondary specifications: Wire length, wind diameter, and 18uh of L. I can easily change the primary length.
It is also on a slider sheath to enable moving along the secondary to change the ratio between voltage and current.
Simplicity is in my crawl because I believe this build can be kept looking just like something Tesla would have built. Windings, caps, coils, resistors and diodes and nothing else.
The thing is that when achieved this can be driven by two oscillators or a stungun/broadband.
Once this transmission side is done then that supplies the parameters for receivers.


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