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The one thing i have learned from this thread(even though i already new it to be so),is just how dishonest creationists are.
For example
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There are many questions which Evolution has no
answer for. The lack of Scientific Answers does not,
however, prevent the use of Guesswork to support
their underlying Agenda.Evolution it self provides all the answers required.
Science has no agenda as such,other than to seek knowledge.
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The Evolution Agenda is merely a temporary distraction.
It is not necessarily a bad thing that Evolutionists seek
answers while supporting erroneous beliefsScience is not a belief based system,nor is evolution erroneous.
In fact,the only belief/faith based system which continually projects erroneous beliefs are the creationist.
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Many have already done so.Their eyes have been
opened to see how all life has been wonderfully
designed.When in fact,many surveys have shown that the number of people who believe in god is dropping fast,and more are taking up the fact of evolution. Even christians them self are starting to admit the bible is a book of impossibilities.
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In the future Evolution will fade away as just another case
of the folly of man.In actual fact,as man becomes wiser and smarter,we find that religion is that which is fading away.
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I have presented clear scientific evidence for how creation could have happened.When in actual fact,not one single piece of evidence has been presented in this thread that supports creation--all here can read the thread,and see for them self.
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I have also posted clear reasons why evolution is not possible even including the math from a very famous and well-know atheist who came to the conclusion that mathematically evolution was not possible.No math what so ever has been presented to show evolution was not possible.
The math that was presented was in relation of the probability of life beginning,which has nothing at all to do with how life evolves over time.
But speaking of math,i wonder what the odds are of a super natural being creating man from nothing but dust?.
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Even that has been rejected with no explanation except to say that math didn't prove evolution was not possible.Which it did not,as evolution of life over time is not,nor has it ever been about the beginning of life.
Speaking of math being rejected,can you explain yet as to where all the water went that covered all the high hills and mountains under the heavens by 15 cubits ?.
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So I guess math is not part of real science now.Yes it is.
Can you show one thing in the bible that can be proven correct by real science ? (that excludes creation science,as that was found by the supreme court not to be real science-as most smart people already knew)
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without DNA there can be no RNA, and without RNA there can be no DNAAnother untruth.
In fact,activated RNA is what makes DNA,and there are some viruses that have RNA and no DNA
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Change over time simply cannot explain how complex organs such as eyes or ears could have developed.Once again,not true.
There are many explanations of how complex organs can evolve from simpler forms over time.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-surprising-origins-of-evolutionary-complexity/?redirect=1The explanations given by science are far more probable than-poof,there you go,have some eyes made from dust.
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The scientific method cannot be used to prove events which occurred outside of human observation. No one observed the origin of the universe by either chance or design, but scientific evidence via mathematical probability can be used to support either a chance or design origins for the universe.And again-untrue.
Science is used every day to determine events that took place in the past.
For example,science knows that the !heavens! universe is much older than 6000 years.
The andromeda galaxy for example is 2.5 million light years away from earth. That alone tells us the the !heavens! and earth has existed for at least 2.5 million years--of course it is much older than that.
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The odds of an average protein molecule coming into existence by chance is 10 to the 65th power.Nothing to do with the evolution of life over time,but they are far better odds than a super natural being creating the heavens and earth out of nothing,and all living things out of dust.
BTW,i am yet to receive an answer to my question.
If all things were created,who created God ?.
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It has been shown that the basic building blocks of life, such as amino acid molecules, can come into existence by chance, but it has never been shown that these basic building blocks can come together into a sequence by chance to form protein molecules.As Adam was the first man on earth,it has never been shown that man was made from dust.
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In the midst of arguments over evolution and intelligent design, it is amazing how many in society, including the very educated, believe that scientists had already created life in the laboratory. No such thing has ever happened.No,not quite.Science has not discovered how life could have started.
But they are a lot closer than being able to create life from dust.
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Natural laws are adequate to explain how the order in life, the universe, and even a microwave oven operates, but mere undirected natural laws cannot fully explain the origin of such order.And natural laws fully exclude the super natural.
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It is only fair that evidence supporting intelligent design be presented to studentsThere is no evidence that supports intelligent design.
That is why creation science was banned from schools.
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But, when all the evidence is presented it should show beyond all reasonable doubt that life didn’t originate by chance but by designAnd the opposite happened.
Evolution is a scientific fact,and the theories that explain the facts have also been presented,and found to be correct.
What creationist do not understand is that whether evolution is fact of fiction is no longer up for debate.
Evolution has been found to be fact many years ago,and the theories were to follow.
As i explained before,the social meaning for theory is different than the scientific meaning for theory.
In science you fist prove something to be fact. Then once that is done,you develop a theory that explains the fact.
Creation on the other hand is science fiction-->creation science.
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The Institute for Creation Research (www.icr.org) offers excellent articles, books, and resources from Master’s or Ph.D degreed scientists showing how true science supports creation.There is no such thing as true creation science.
Creation is a belief based system,and so creation science is not real science.
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The Chance of Evolution Ever Occurring is so Remote as to be Mathematically Impossible.All pay careful attention to this.
We are a carbon based life form-as is all life here on earth.
Amino Acids are the building blocks of life.
Lets have a look at what fell to earth in 1969-->which happens to be the year i was born,and the 28th of September was the day my son was born.whats the chances of that lol.
https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC6EK8H_murchison-meteorite-the-building-blocks-of-life?guid=994f64f6-12c5-4449-a1b8-4cc2653c3559Quote:
The Murchison Meteorite amazes us and like many enthusiasts we wish we were around to experience the fall. The Murchison Meteorite is one of the rarest types of meteorites known to man, and has been expensively studied. It is a carbonaceous chondrites, only 1% of all known meteorites are carbonaceous chondrites. It is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old! It contains Amino Acids which are the building blocks of life! Oh so exciting!Now,imagine how many of these type of meteorites fell to earth over billions of years.
How's our chances looking now?
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How much of what was believed in 1991 regarding Life and
Evolution has remained unchanged?And once again,another great untruth by the creationists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolutionAnd i quote:
The vast majority of the scientific community and academia supports evolutionary theory as the only explanation that can fully account for observations in the fields of biology, paleontology, molecular biology, genetics, anthropology, and others.[18][19][20][21][22] A 1991 Gallup poll found that about 5% of American scientists (including those with training outside biology) identified themselves as creationists.[23][24]
Additionally, the scientific community considers intelligent design, a neo-creationist offshoot, to be unscientific,[25] pseudoscience,[26][27] or junk science.[28][29] The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has stated that intelligent design "and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life" are not science because they cannot be tested by experiment, do not generate any predictions, and propose no new hypotheses of their own.[30] In September 2005, 38 Nobel laureates issued a statement saying "Intelligent design is fundamentally unscientific; it cannot be tested as scientific theory because its central conclusion is based on belief in the intervention of a supernatural agent."[31] In October 2005, a coalition representing more than 70,000 Australian scientists and science teachers issued a statement saying "intelligent design is not science" and calling on "all schools not to teach Intelligent Design (ID) as science, because it fails to qualify on every count as a scientific theory".I could keep going on and on,and continue to show just how the creationists are totally wrong,verging on the boarder of complete ignorance.
So there you have it.
Throughout this thread,and seemingly on my own,i have defended true science,and exposed religion for what it is,and how it can turn good people into those that have been !!blinded by the light!!
Religion,as you have seen,will tech you,and have you disregarding all that is true.
Tunnel vision is developed,and all science, scientific proofs,math,and physics are disregarded as being absolute rubbish once one takes in god.
Thank me i got out before it was too late.
When an idiot comes up against a master.
Man i love this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isV9hWXpNjcBrad
Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.
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