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Yes, just that acetic acid (vinegar) is a milder acid than the hydrochloric acid and the resulting salt is a milder, too.

Pure zinc metal dissolved in pure hydrochloric acid yields zinc chloride. The chloride ion is quite aggressive.
Pure zinc metal dissolved in pure acetic acid yields zinc acetate.  The acetate ion is quite mild.
Ultrasonic Vaping is a good route of administration if it is diluted 1:10000 or more.
Thermal Vaping is not so good because its high temperature renders the chemicals more reactive and irritating and will decompose others such as the hydroxychloroquine. azithromycin and nicotianamine.

Something like this?

https://tinyurl.com/weqgfnx


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Something like this?
https://tinyurl.com/weqgfnx
Yes, if the droplets it makes are small.
   

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This is a must see for all scientists here:
https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs

https://youtu.be/2UdtKssU7po
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The various simulations make the point rather dramatically.

Very interesting.

When we must go "out" for food or drink what would be
effective preventative measures?  Are masks adequate
or should more be done?

Verpies,

Your second link above to Tech Ingredients presentation
on Ozone and Alcohol answers questions about the
masks.

I'm wondering though, about Hydrogen Peroxide.  Is
the readily available 3% solution of any use?
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I'm wondering though, about Hydrogen Peroxide.  Is
the readily available 3% solution of any use?
IMO it is after prolonged contact
   
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A cure - I've used this for many years when needed and it works like nothing else...

https://jimhumble.co/

https://jimhumble.co/blog/a-word-on-coronavirus
   
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And it seems whilst America is on lock down and  'social distancing' becomes the norm and whilst transport is minimised  and Americans in a stupor
None of that applies to this little group of stalwarts - 5G and their fleets of vans are a hive of activity it seems .
Far from social distancing  they are being very social indeed around the community .
Particularly around Schools . Is this your local school I wonder ?
Do tell – drive past and hoot the hell out of it  (as long as its on the way to the shops of course)  I'm sure someone reading knows this place ! Not unsurprisingly this delivery driver phones the advertised number and asks the question ----  IS THIS TO DO WITH THE VIRUS ??- well he would wouldn't he ? we are all in solitary confinment under mashal law and country by country facing financial ruin and these guys are having a party or something more sinister I suspect.

https://youtu.be/GR0vAiWbOY8

This time I have it copied - first -  so if its erased I'll post the hell of it – everywhere but Google censored shit  tube! where as muDped has pointed out - The truth becomes a violation!  might I suggest you reading do the same thing with anything that tweaks you suspicions (including this) I suggest do it now - these things are being wiped out within an hour -- remember the Dr ?
5G fleets? and hords of workmen  well it certainly isn't -pandemic obedience – now is it ?
Why would it be so very very important to install 5G ? well again its got to be a 'best shot' but I'd bet a pound to a pinch of shit that meat can be put on these bones
This is a copy and paste of a book sales pitch

 http://www.emfinspect.com/the-invisible-rainbow-book/

This author has linked to coronavirus to 5G and I've already seen that linked here on OUR  however f.y.i

https://www.5gexposed.com/2020/03/22/5g-and-the-coronavirus/?print=pdf

perhaps I have an askance view but the time writing about and  discussing  -new cures-  is surly  simply a distraction now?
as I pointed out to Jimboot its been done and dusted trial be fire too ! --- long ago in the time scale of this so called pandemic.
 I have already posted the French clinical results and that's been superseded by the hundreds and hundreds of cases confronted  by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko 
OK it might be nice to have a few alternatives but realistically the cure is there it has been for some time.
– AND ISNT BEING APPLIED –  that is the whole and basic problem . -at least as far as the farce being presented is concerned
That being BLATENTLY  the case  then the why not and what is really going on becomes paramount not going over well established and trodden ground. We have it seems got the wheel and  its got the brake solidly applied. or do you see these basic facts differently?
Sure a few more wheels would be nice but to get the brake off this one and find out who dared to apply it!  is far far more important in my opinion, or do you differ with this fundimental ?
any new wheel would also have the brakes applied for sure – by the very same bastards I suspect .
A rapid cure isn't on their agenda months of martial law and causing forced world wide financial ruin with a huge death toll might well be.
As good  Dr Zelenko  has told us very few of us will suffer any awful effects from this disease .In fact no doubt many of us have had the thing and don't know it!
What isn't happening is cures that are badly required for the old and frail – Are not getting made or getting to health centres  - To put it bluntly if we already have the wheel do we need to make other types instead of using the thing . sure the usual research can plod about in the background at a snails pace for years  as usual but that isn't whats needed here, is it?


Kind regards Duncan

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We need a good diy 5g detector with level meter, pocket size. Lol could map safer routes. Maybe. But would be good to know if it is stronger in places we spend more time.
Imagine where different towers create nodes of maybe very high peaks in certain places.

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This whole catastrophe with the elderly being slowly
"exterminated" has the familiar ring of "Soylent Green."

Movies have been used as the harbinger of future events.

Could it be that the AGENDA really is the removal of the
burden of the Elderly and the Disadvantaged?

This New Normal that we find ourselves immersed in isn't
looking too awfully good...

Quote from: Soylent Green review
This movie paints a very bleak future for planet Earth.  What makes
this movie so good is that the future seen may very well be a reality
someday.  A poisoned environment, an overpopulated planet and
total disregard for human life all seem to be in their early stages
today.  Soylent Green is a very good and very believable film.


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This I suspect is nearer the mark muDped and I think you can forget the 'slowly' bit these guys are busy - only this is actual events not hollywood. I would with respect refrain from identifying any particular group for the control here.
This is surly intermeshed (thats what Bilderberg does)  . Not sure I like the 'style' of this documentary, from many years ago now .
It being rather an American take on an international regime which had its origins in the third Reich at the end of WW2  arranged by Martin Bormann Reich's minister of finance greatly assisted (by accident I would hope) with  USA operation 'paper clip' where untold numbers of high ranking Nazi's entered the USA and were 're-branded' – The possible future of your children and grandchildren might well be judged by this quotation of Bormann's

It is enough if they can count up to one hundred. At best an education which produces useful coolies for us is admissible. Every educated person is a future enemy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Martin Bormann

Still this outragious  bit of skulduggery  might well  bring this all into full light. What couldn't be achieved by war and force of arms has perhaps been done by stealth over the years.   
- one currency – one government – one reich  (if this farce continues long enough and the simple available remedies we already have are not shipped to emergency centres and applied )
perhaps not in one hit but it has got the signature I suggest.
You see it isn't that bits of this may be true . Its that they have proliferated, people have refused to wake up never mind look at the ducks being assembled . Now all of the ducks (most of which are illegal) are not only assembled they are lined up. Sad to say if this is correct it's a poor look out for the old and frail and other 'inferiors' (like me)

https://youtu.be/wW-gQCp_18Y


(That's Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall at 47.24 (all royals are supposed to be apolitical b.t.w)  pity hubby Charles has the corona virus (seemingly) I hope he gets well on his holiday estate don't you ?
I expect many more celebrity (?)  Bilderberger's to join the virus circus. Seems they are especially susceptible to the virus (and publicity for the cause)
 
So Alex Jones over eggs the cake and as far as he's concerned America is the world, still you get the picture. The people have been snoozing none of this should ever have been allowed to develop - but it has .  - well prepared - well planned - covert - international  (all the hall marks) - so they pushed the button .
 
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http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
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We need a good diy 5g detector with level meter, pocket size. Lol could map safer routes. Maybe. But would be good to know if it is stronger in places we spend more time.
Imagine where different towers create nodes of maybe very high peaks in certain places.

Mags

Perhaps your right Mags - but rather it needs stopping and PDQ - I dont want to sleep in a faraday cage. these nuts need sorting out. I don't want or need faster comm's - happy with a landline , It was better quieter times I assure you .
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How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ?
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
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A cure - I've used this for many years when needed and it works like nothing else...

https://jimhumble.co/

https://jimhumble.co/blog/a-word-on-coronavirus

e2matrix love the cure , been down those deep mines myself (City deep)  'the cure' I suggest isn't the problem - never has been and isn't the strategy thats being played out here. this is social engineering I suspect , If it isn't then those effective cures should have been at the cole face long ago - they are not . There is buisness being done instead  - masks and wot not Dyson general motors et-al
Do you want to be personaly healthy with a cure - so you can live as a slave - thats put a bit rough but its how it pans out I think.
there's a big move being played out here
As those that have experianced the so called pandemic relate most youngsters and healthy folks barely register the thing. a few sniffles perhaps. We have cures thats also been established 
The cures are not being employed thats been established too. however,  The all important why not isn't established. A bit like resonant water fracture seems  - its not allowed .
Not at all sure we need lots and lots of cures its pointless. most of us will not require them anyway . what is required I suggest is the effective (and they are very effective look at the clinical graphs)  cures to get forced to the coal face and release this ridiculous strangle hold -- thats how I see it . we dont need another wheel do we ?although its nice, we want the brakes taken off the ones we have. 
Neither is it personal thing - its the numbers (alledgedly) of frail thats holding the world in ransom - or do you see different ? overwhelming the health services 'flattening the curve' all that nonsence  - give them the smarties that have been shown to work - if they saved 300 critically ill they will save 3000  the rest of us will sniffle a bit - if not and it gets a bit more serious I'm happy to eat the smarties for 6 days with the other OAPs - slap someone about and get the smarties to where they are needed  honestly wouldn't  that  - end this generated saga ?   
kindest regards Duncan
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How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ?
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
whilst we know little .. friends remember,
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. .. bit like resonant water fracture seems  - its not allowed .

Do you mean John Worrell Keely, 42.7khz and all that? Not allowed? Has anybody has got it together in a marketable form?


   
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Do you mean John Worrell Keely, 42.7khz and all that? Not allowed? Has anybody has got it together in a marketable form?
many times - some died and there's much information elswhere on this forum . not a subject for deep discussion here I would suggest .
its nothing to do with marketable form - rather what the people who run the market will allow - end of this particular subject on this thread - my error I should not have mentioned it I guess we all need to stay focused exclusively (incuding me)  on this present scourge -  that has been presented to us - apologies and kind regards Paul - Duncan
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How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ?
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
whilst we know little .. friends remember,
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ?
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
whilst we know little .. friends remember,
In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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Thanks Duncan.

Here is The Appeal to Stop 5G on Earth and in Space.

-   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -

This may have much to do with all of the turmoil.


A wee bit o' humor attached.
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How to explain the situation in France?

It has the look of something very sinister.


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Out of the two scenario's I really do hope what you indicate with this link is the correct avenue muDped.
It stands to reason I guess the scent would be similar The Bilderberg's would use the same dance steps for sure and its a well known axiom – It takes a thief to catch a thief .
I take nothing for granted regarding that toxic organisation slippery as a snake I'm sure those members are slimy enough to slither under a door without the need of opening it – if necessary with a top hat on too.
All live in the lap of luxury and most have never washed a pot in their parasitic lives. It takes skillful manipulation to do that.     
I do honestly hope I am entirely wrong on this occasion and you are locked on the right scent . As the scroll unrolls we'll see 
Que Sera, Sera – like the airport customers 'we also stand and wait'
your link makes things look just a little brighter. (perhaps)
My uderstanding of the petro dollar and Saudi relationship is however rather different to that portrayed  (I guess to save you time the relevent bit is about  9 mins in on the first section) Its very difficult for a liar to maintain the lie – If the portrayal of the Petro- dollar trickery is such an obvious corruption of the truth how much else is fiction ?

f.y.i these few videos from years ago have rather more the ring of truth. In both examples I intentionally use old video's - People like to re-write history to suit actions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPoZJNT1eM

https://youtu.be/Oid_95vUZAc

https://youtu.be/vCde8IjS-GE

In short I would suggest  the US dollar gallently extricating itself from the Riyal is at best being economical with the truth. Perhaps America can now profess to be a major oil producer (since the huge Alaska discoveries) and is happy to sever ties with Saudi Arabia -isn't this the base of that and  Bilderberg again ?

https://youtu.be/CZFO1tq5OeI?t=2965

and other disturbing events - HAARP (for instance)

There are then things that don't fit in this presentation - they have been altered for what reason I wouldn't know. It still has the reek of Bilderberg to me, but as I wrote I really hope I'm wrong because that direction is no friend of humanity. It is however quite capable of this as a deception. --- follow the money  -

kindest regards Duncan

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How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ?
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
whilst we know little .. friends remember,
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Prototype of Air-Driven Ambu box

This video shows the results of our first week of intensive working The Ambu or bag valve mask is confined within a rigid perspex box. This box can be pressurised from a 4 bar line. When it is pressurised, the Ambu compresses, providing an inhalation. When the pressure is switched off, the Ambu re-inflates.

20th Mar 2020

I believe that all the electronics used to control the cycle could be replaced with a large snapvalve on top of the box. This would mean that a single compressor could run many ventilators built with off the shelf parts simultaneously. A pressure regulator, flow control valve, psi gauge and snapvalve could all be manually set to achieve the desired cycle time and pressure. A 3D printed snapvalve would probably be the way to go.

What do you guys think ?


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Prototype of Air-Driven Ambu box

This video shows the results of our first week of intensive working The Ambu or bag valve mask is confined within a rigid perspex box. This box can be pressurised from a 4 bar line. When it is pressurised, the Ambu compresses, providing an inhalation. When the pressure is switched off, the Ambu re-inflates.

20th Mar 2020

I believe that all the electronics used to control the cycle could be replaced with a large snapvalve on top of the box. This would mean that a single compressor could run many ventilators built with off the shelf parts simultaneously. A pressure regulator, flow control valve, psi gauge and snapvalve could all be manually set to achieve the desired cycle time and pressure. A 3D printed snapvalve would probably be the way to go.

What do you guys think ?

looks very impressive to me - very good effort


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http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf
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   Thanks for that work, EA.

    Question regarding hydroxychloroquine + anti-biotics --  does this work against coronavirus? 
I seek a scientific answer, not a "politically correct" answer.

One paper I found:  https://aac.asm.org/content/53/8/3416
   

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It is unfortunate that the CDC, the FDA and seemingly the entire
Health Care Industry at their uppermost levels have become
very Political and Love of Money oriented.

Corruption overpowers honest research.

The People suffer.
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    Question regarding hydroxychloroquine + anti-biotics --  does this work against coronavirus? 
I seek a scientific answer, not a "politically correct" answer.
It is a leading question. The plus sign suggests that hydroxychloroquine somehow potentiates antibiotics.  It doesn't.

There is only one antibiotic that independently impedes the replication of the SARS-CoV-2, the Azithromycin.
...and Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are merely ionophores that facilitate the transport of Zinc 2+ ions across the bilipid walls of human cells.
It is these Zinc 2+ ions that are responsible for the inhibition of the viral Replicase (RdRP). So the best results are achieved by first opening the ionophores with Hydroxychloroquine followed by Zinc ion supplementation by inhalation 4h later.

You can find references to scientific papers about this, e.g. in video update #32 and subsequent ones on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos
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Verpies,

You've given us a really great link!

Very informative.  Many thanks.

I've always looked at fever as being beneficial.


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