Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #100 on: 2025-04-01, 20:46:33 »

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Use for those pesky one use throw away plastic flash cameras.

You can make a pop gun from firing capacitor into salt water in a large plastic syringe. The plunger will shoot out + hit the wall. Electrolysis of water for Hydrogen gas and fire same time. Insert 2 screws close together at the compression end of syringe with water. Keep the whole board. Use battery to run the charger circuit for the capacitor. (Use instead of lighting up a flash lamp.) Man from Philippines did this awhile back.. Another man discharged 500uf capacitor charged from several hundred volts supply, into mower engine spark plug. Salt water was put on end electrodes. When fired as electrolysis, it forms hydrogen gas and fires plug same time. His engine crankshaft turned over one revolution. Bench test was repeated. There are regular electrolytic caps and also whats called photo flash type which are called low ESR. These type discharge faster, less internal heating, and release more energy in one blast.
The Horvath US Patent showed how to run electrolysis cell on capacitor discharges which ended up as 30v + 200 pulse amps to electrodes in electrolyte, at 10khz.. Full schematic and parts list. Car ran on water.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #101 on: 2025-04-04, 00:48:04 »

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Reference Aug 27, 2008 Waterfuel1978 Forum

Briggs Magnetron with triple coils assembly, inductor,- used with standard Ignition coil bench tester. Daveand5 noted the leakage inductance crossover voltage 150v to the low volts side. When wires hooked up, the Briggs 15kv coil gave out an unusual 40kv. Range switch on 50kv. He noted also the plastic tub holder had helped raise up voltage. He suggested increasing the 2nd and third coil size for further change.

After reading this paper over considerable amount of time, I recently got the idea of COORELATIONS. I did this years ago with other subjects, and it works. If you do some bench tests and note 4 outcomes, but only mention 2 or 3 to others over long period, the people still have questions. The originator may deem it not significant to talk about.

Based on these other COORELATIONS I find that the Georgia people neglected to tell of ignition major voltage change, when firing spark plugs with the new S1R coils assembly.

With the S1r coils having reversed source flows of power, there is inherent designed in interference placed on the spark cable-bare wire. This we already know forms longer on time of spark ATDC and mild magnetism at tips of plug. The Georgia techs failed to mention about increased volts firing the spark plugs. They called it boosting the ignition cable by adding more current. Volts + current are 2 different things and by different methods. Inverter output current and magnetic field impressed.

(1.) The plastic deli tub holding the S1R electrical wiring acted as a capacitance for aiding the increased voltage of output. We know the general DC power supplies use a filter capacitor after the diodes, that raises up the end volts.

(2.) The 2008 bench test indicated an abnormal change of ignition volts going as to 40KV.

(3.) Nathren said the earlier 60 turns coil over plug wire test on fender of car engine formed magnetic field that fired spark plug in air with white/blue ball flame blast. Under compression it is stronger.

(4.) Nathren said that the Briggs 18HP engine tests with S1r coils gave higher output voltage than the car engine ignition coils.

Therefore, because of correlations, it is my contention that it is normal for our S1R windings coils to increase the Magnetron high voltage to a much higher range for firing saltwater solution for successful running a water engine.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #102 on: 2025-04-04, 16:59:08 »

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Most people don't take the time to read all messages on subject. They don't like long paragraphs. There were 2 demonstrations back in 2008 regarding mower engine running at idle speed on salt water. The battery supplied amps for start only. The idle RPM dual alternators supplied up to15 amps for conversion circuit. Alternators + ignition self running by 12 +1 magnets and crankshaft rotation. . The Ignition coil on a Briggs engine is called a Magnetron (with SS trigger). The S1R coils assembly does 3 things. Am ample increase in high voltage, extension of timing from TDC to -34 degrees ATDC, and applying mild magnetism to spark plug electrodes. The added Inverter box supplies additional power 120v AC to DC , about 10Amps Peak pulse Amps to spark plug. This circuit was used by the tech people on all the earlier car engines tested . Those used also a special relay per cylinder. The S1R coils replaces the unabtainable obsolete 60 cycles traffic signals control relays. Approx 4A to electromagnet coils over plug wire, and 11 amps to primary side of Inverter, for 15 A Max 12-14v DC from alternators full wave DC. The mower circuit also used an inductor of 1.75millihenry , and extra required spark gap. The plastic housing had room for 1 relay . There was talk about the relay diode joint with high volts entrance point forming Radiant Energy that may have increased conversion efficiency. The Vacuum sealed relay stops loss of RF in ambiant air. The salt water and 120v DC at plug forms hydrogen gas and fires same time. (spark plug electrolysis) There was also water vapor pressure contributing to the piston compression. There are several US Patents on same thing, going way back in time. Low engine power output but usable, as for instance operating an electrical 120v AC power generator. The tech people said a higher HP engine required by ratio to add a generator requiring certain HP. Ohm's laws still in effect.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #103 on: 2025-04-05, 23:27:10 »

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This message is in regards to the Georgia conversions on the earlier 4,6, 8-cylinder engines used with mineral water. The shop had worked on hundreds of adjustments for years , trying to get it right. They talked about surging, rough engines, and some actual improvement came when it was Nathren (father) who was the only one who noticed about EGR being used on the better running engines.
I had made up a list of possibilities of minor changes that I had never submitted to them, possibly they never thought of.

Today I wanted to tell you about one of those on the list. The Georgia techs used the same Inverter box on each car with the matching relays per cylinder, to make use of the inductors and diodes. Now,....... There are several types of Inverters 110v AC output. (I prefer the 220v units as diodes bank loses about 10 volts)

There is the low frequency 60 cycles as modified corrected sine wave (square waves).
The 500W 20khz high frequency open board China Inverters with multiple outputs.
The 500-600W 60 cycles pure sine wave circuit Inverter unit.

Why this is important is because Inverters also give a specification for Peak, temporary current under 40% duty cycle. Such as 400W to 800W with an associated peak amps pulse current. The cheaper quality Inverters are mostly modified sine wave. What that means is, not quality repeatable same peak current in fast pulses. It is now assumed that the Georgia techs needed to change their input power to Pure Sine Wave , more costly Inverters. It has to do with type of electrical load as resistive, inductive, etc. They had never , over the years finally corrected the engine running problem. Also, source to purchase exact special relays never found. They had been using the Green Inverter box Power On Board 400watts, modified sine wave, 12vDC to 110v AC.
I have an array of different Inverter boxes collected over time.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #104 on: 2025-04-08, 18:33:29 »

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The shop in Georgia had converted several cars , as 4,6,8 cylinder engines on mineral water. They all had standard alternators. The one most talked about was the 1978 Chevy ElCamino V8 running on mineral water. There was a separate 2nd battery used to run the Inverter box . The alternator charged both batteries with diode isolation box. For off idle power, the main jet in carb is re drilled about 33% larger. The car reported to get 18MPG water, but after later reusing some of the waste exhaust drippings, the mileage went way higher , due to the addition of Nitrogen embedded in the expelled water. Smother running engine also. The other v8 on engine stand was running electrical power generator 24 hours always on. The regular alternator recharged battery, and the GENERATOR provided free electricity for work shop. Data taken from the now shut down web forum. Spark plug electrolysis for hydrogen gas + water vapor pressure.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #105 on: 2025-04-23, 15:14:37 »

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The DC generator is mounted under flywheel of all Briggs riding lawn mowers engines. The 2 AC wires extend to rectification to recharge battery or provide power to extra circuit. The flywheel contains 13 permanent magnets. 12 for the generator and 1 for the ignition. No input is used to run generator or ignition other than turning crankshaft. When hydrogen gas fuel is made at spark plug , the engine starts running. The battery was used for the starter motor only, then completely shut off. Power to make electrolysis is then coming from generator at idle speed. Salt water is allowed to flow into top of carb from hose + bottle. Diodes needed to get DC to make low efficiency electrolysis of water. Fuel gas forms at tips of spark plug and fires same time. The added wire coil changes the timing ,as is needed with hydrogen. The spark plug receives what is called pulse PEAK DC current as about 10A. Spark plug was changed to Champion QC12YC at 125 ohms , rather than original 4000ohms resistance. They also come apart to remove resistor to get a Zero ohms racing plug. ( copper #12 wire segment replacement)

You can verify an old used engine would just run by adding 70% alcohol, or acetylene gas from carbide stones + water added, and also Ether spray into carb. The sound of Nathren's water engine on hydrogen sounds like a water pump. Youtube (2 )videos by S1R9A9M9

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #106 on: 2025-06-03, 17:41:42 »

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The mower ignition coil has a lower high voltage output than car engines. I was collecting data on various means to increase this. The unusual modification of upside down old style armature magneto, (not magnetron), allows for positive high volts , but at a lowered level, since they are all type called autotransformer, with 3 terminals. I noticed on the modern Harley motorcycles the ignition coil was different. I purchased one $50, and examined it. The transformer secondary side is not connected to anything. Later, I found out the Briggs dual spark plug engines have either single or dual ignition Magnetrons. I purchased samples of the one with dual cables. One side cylinder fires negative high volts, and the other fires positive high volts. This is the best method to obtain positive only high volts ignition., at highest volts.without loss. One side hooks to ground.
Back in 2008, there was a circuit on Internet called the capacitor70 circuit for several purposes. I had the idea this was incorporated in the set up of 2008 You tube videos called S1R9A9M9 to enhance the process of running mower engine on water to hydrogen and electrified water vapor pressure as polarized molecules repulsion, pushing piston. The Cap70 circuit is similar to a C.D.I with PF capacitors firing separate primary of step up FERRITE TOROID transformer to increase high volts of car/ mower engine. Ferrite can saturate and has to be designed properly. Ignition is very low current flow and low duty cycle, and core should work. This also isolates the grounds of ignition and added power supply. The circuit however allows high volts to go through the low volts full wave rectifier to get to the spark plug. Not a good idea. I suspected circuit was used in the S1R9A9M9 successful video demonstrations. 2 people indicated it worked. I am presently hooking up to try this on parts and UU ferrite core set mounted on wooden board. U cores are easier to wind, and have the same proper full contained flux path., not like open rod core. 500-1000PF , several caps in series with total voltage tolerance and ferrite core 1:3 step up windings. Resonance of L + C high frequency runs secondary side wound with #16 gauge ignition cable. Experimenters have to keep the grounds separate of the Inverter + ignition, and battery ground. I did a lot of study research before buying parts. Minimum 24KV and pulse peak 7 amps required ,- not average amps.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #107 on: 2025-07-18, 20:52:02 »

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On another note,.....The Briggs brand lawn mower ignition coils have one for a 2 cyl. engine. Those engines DO use either 1 or 2 ignition coils for twin cylinders. I found out , that the dual cables type, single Magnetron coil, is NOT An "autotransformer." The autotransformer has 3 terminals only. The special dual cables type Magnetron has no connection to the PRIMARY side. THEREFORE, 4 TERMINALS SEPARATE. You can put one secondary cable to ground and then get FULL POSITIVE HIGH VOLTS OUT! This is a pulse output circuit, not an AC circuit. Conversion fuel circuits wotk better using positive high volts through spark plug to negative ground. You can get a similar modern Chinese model on Ebay, for less money.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #108 on: 2025-07-18, 22:26:16 »

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Study S1R9A9M9 conversions from 2005-2019. Internet data and shut down web site Waterfuel1978 Google Groups. Zero ohms Spark plug firing water solution with > 100volts DC at peak 7-10 amps pulse , at about 1-2 amps average DC on scope. DC to AC Inverter secondary side 120v - 220v AC to DC. See the 2 You tube videos . Tiny plug electrodes require higher volts!. His 1978 El Camino got 18mpg on just water in carb. Must have EGR to get the Nitrogen embedded in the exhausted water reused. Georgia work shop had V8 on engine stand with power generator making free electricity for shop. Inventor helper Nathren, revealing the data on web forum was arrested and jailed for pornography to stop the technical data. . Hydrogen + Oxygen gas evolved and fired along with pressure expansion of water vapor of repulsing polarized water molecules. (Brown's Gas) The vacuum in intake manifold causes VOLATILE action on water so as subservient to further actions ionization. His Briggs 18HP mower engine with water bottle and hose to carb, shown working using parts in plastic tub on side of engine , such as inductor coil and electromagnet to change to late timing ATDC.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #109 on: 2025-07-19, 17:07:46 »

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Hydrogen + Oxygen gas evolved and fired along with pressure expansion of water vapor of repulsing polarized water molecules. (Brown's Gas) The vacuum in intake manifold causes VOLATILE action on water VAPOR so as subservient to further actions ionization. Currently I am duplicating the original circuit with small mounted Briggs lawnmower engine, similar to his on You Tube video. Radiant Energy may be involved from the original sealed vacuum chamber relay coils and diode interaction with high voltage pulse. (on/off/on diode) R.E. not escape to ambient air , so as follows circuit to spark plug tips in chamber. The Georgia technicians called them the "magic relays" The new ones they used in all the engine conversions, one set dual coils relay PER CYLINDER, were replacements for the Georgia electric pole boxes for the traffic control lights 60 cycle , - green + red 6v bulbs, now obsolete as changed over to solid state. Years ago, I had found 2 messages that told of positive engine conversion using the S1R9A9M9 technique with spark plug and S1R triple coils electromagnet. Of course you know that 500uf capacitor charged to several hundred volts DC will discharge to plug with salt water solution and revolve 4 cycle small engine. But that's not the S1R method. The unit like that called Aquapulse was sold years ago.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #110 on: 2025-07-26, 22:34:26 »

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Mower engine Ran On Hydrogen From Water 2008

Another update conversion parts. Made replacement for the original Georgia special Relays they used back then , as vacuumed box chamber with 2 inductors, diodes and Tesla magnetic spark gap. Radiant energy to emit from 2 points. Inverter to DC power supply also completed + protection diodes bank + P.W.M. controller. Just finished the water tank processor with tiny bubbles air pump and magnetic polarization of plastic water line with neodymium magnets. Easier to extract hydrogen with electrolysis with H +H +O as polarized with the 106 degree angle shifted to 108 degrees.These are improvements to the conversion done back in 2005-2008.Engine casting insulated from bat neg , so as no interference with expensive Inverter box pure sine wave. Ignition changed to positive High volts only. The Briggs engine has no adjustment for timing , so as the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet provides field over plug wire as going up to late 34 degrees ATDC. The shut down web site had no replacement for the relays , so no completed circuit was released to the public. Took me 3 months to get the sealed box configured. Ohms law formula always used. The 6 stage project nearing completion. Manifold vacuum action causes volatility of water vapor and with the polarization, forms vapor pressure that aids the hydrogen combustion pressure. (Browns gas) The required embedded 78% Nitrogen added to water aids the Hydrogen burning process. It's also in the exhaust gases, - "EGR" The S1R9A9M9 method of spark plug electrolysis had several cars converted , lower power output , of course, but only Briggs engine was put on video. The shop tech's kept their own records, only Nathren put data on the web forum that I copied. In the 2 You tube 2008 videos, the engine was started with battery, battery removed, then the dual alternators under flywheel ran the circuit. Check out what a water engine sounds like. Questions?

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #111 on: 2025-08-04, 02:53:11 »

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Mower Converted Water/Hydrogen

Those engines converted in Georgia 2005-2008, as I said before, had used electrolysis at spark plug at over 100volts dc for the hydrogen generated, but had also used BROWN'S Gas. Some people don't know about that. With a pulsed type DC power supply there is an electrical charge put on water vapor that also produces pressure due to expansion of like polarity gas. Both together form the piston pressure that runs the engine. The circuit also used Radiant Energy from the vacuum chamber Bakelite dual coils + diode that enhanced the reaction. The dual alternators on the mower engine ran electrical circuit on the built in 12 magnets providing AC when shaft is turned. The converted car engines used 2 batteries with alternator charging both during driving. Later, It was found that EGR Nitrogen added to engine increased efficiency further. Tech data taken, copied, from original web forum , now shut down.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #112 on: 2025-08-12, 00:42:22 »

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How To Increase High Volts Of Lawn Mower Ignition Coil?

I ran across recently a statement made by Nathren long time back, in Georgia, from the shut down tech web forum. It was a reference to the use of very mini Tesla Coil in conjunction with the Briggs engine Magnetron ignition. This would provide Radiant Energy, and increased voltage to spark plug. The old forum said that the technicians noted a higher voltage on the lawn mower running engine than the conversions done on car engines. for water to Hydrogen spark plug electrolysis with resulting self running from the 12 alternator magnets. 2005-2008.
No core miniature air core wire wound forms were called Color TV Delay Lines ,- magnet wire on cardboard tube or the smaller radio coil RF inductors. The R.E. would be and aid to the conversion.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #113 on: 2025-08-24, 00:17:14 »

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S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water 2008

I rebuilt another S1R electromagnet, as to be able to reduce input current from 4 A to 1.5A. Has to do with doubling number turns so as the magnetic field is same with 1/2 current. 39 turns now for 1.5 amp draw. Direct proportion of turns to field. Remember that we are using the power that would be associated from Briggs alternator as 4A + 11 A for max 15A capability at idle speed.

My other (same) S1R coil was put inside my NEW much larger vacuum chamber with many pin terminals , so as can have various connections for various purposes. The Briggs is factory set timing, so as the VARIED power resistor with coil allows for varying magnetic field for tests. The 60 cycle inverter box as pure sine wave will be used with push button single pulse , and then later with regular on time running of power supply. The 7A Peak pulse will be read on the ground return side to Inverter DC with VOLTS SCOPE fast reading over 1 ohm metal resistor. 7 volts read is 7 pulse amps. E / R = I . Currently finishing up the 6" Carlon larger box and smaller 4" box. Both include the Tesla magnetic spark gap. I am assuming release of (2) radiant energies inside Vacuum box not escaping into Ambient air and following the wiring and inductors to spark plug. High V enters exact at cathode of diode in-between inductors. I really like the heatsink/fan assembly being sold as obsolete from old style computers. The dell unit is way cheaper than purchasing separate sink + 12v fan. Hole drilled in center for mounting MOSFET pass transistor. Complete cheap modules available for preset frequency + duty cycle control. Inverter is 220 v with separate adjustable module for reducing AC to about 130v AC. Then full wave rectifier. Has 2 protections for power input inverter using 15kv diodes bank with vertical blowing fan, and no battery ground hooked to engine metal. (Starter only) I have choice of + or minus high volts at full level. I also installed new water delivery system as upper tank with CERAMIC type TINY TYPE bubbler with DC air pump to get Nitrogen embedded water, and neodymium magnets along length of water hose to carb. (polarized water separates easier) Alum square tube holds strong magnets in place with interior tubing.

The original 60 turns coil test in Georgia was the prerequisite for the S1R coils. No photo, The circuit showed that ignition cable could be INFLUENCED by external magnetic field. The S1R coils served several purposes. Nathren just wanted a cheap method of doing it. He said the magnetic field quit only when plug fired. 2 ways - ignition pulse intercepts diode in Magic Relay shutting off low volts, and ignition volts causes interference in S1r coils other low volts side.

Vacuum boxes contain S1r coils, magnetic gap, 2 inductors and diodes. A second spark gap in series is required to keep spark plug working with water solution.

Push button for initial test of moving piston. Self-running engine requires revolving, so as there is a FAST much-lowered compression at bottom of stroke , affecting water to water vapor , then as susceptible to further influence. There is to be also polarized water vapor repelling, and increasing piston pressure.

Set up now has a different smaller Briggs 8.5 HP engine that has a starter and plastic ring changeable alternator. Just purchased cheap flywheel that has the LARGE magnets for the alternator for more current output. The use of Aluminum ring gear on steel flywheel allows for use of plastic small gear on starter. COMPLETE ELECTRICAL ISOLATION for the expensive China Inverter box.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #114 on: 2025-12-31, 18:48:04 »

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Long time back I made failed sketches regarding diodes protection of the 400watt inverter that was used on cars conversions in Georgia back at that time. It BUGGED me that the system still was working after 3000 miles on chevy car. My recent clipboard drawing with erasable ink pen finally showed promise. I knew that somewhat similar set up had to be on the Briggs engine. Here goes, — The starter position of car switch provides 12v to ignition coils. The plug gets full 12kv high voltage. When key running on position , there is a ballast resistor that puts 6volts worth of high volts to ignition coil. Now it's 6kv firings. The Georgia schematic on the web forum Waterfuel1978 @ yahoo.com showed only 4 possible diodes following the Inverter box. That's about 3200V protection. Two in the bridge rectifier1kv + 1KV and 2 in the circuit as 600v each. The bridge rectifier was not shown. Remember , the technicians in shop did all the work, Nathren father was non tech person. He only looked over the shoulders, and reported work done on the web forum. As resistors add up in series to input resistance, spark gap voltages in series also add up to beginning high volts. The Chevy distributor with spinning ROTOR provides the first of 2 spark gaps. Loss of 3KV. So now, there is about 3, 200volts protection against 3000volts ignition final voltage.

The second thing going on is that the spark plug AIR gap of high resistance is way reduced , due to the water solution. Less high volts is needed to fire plug. The project viability has gotten way higher.

The main energy power supply as DC is required to be minimum 100v or higher. Some guys used Inverter 220vAC . This is because the volts input to water solution is WAY REDUCED by 10 TIMES. 220 becomes 22. 110v becomes 11volts. DC low efficiency electrolysis requires minimum 3 volts. (You can't use 12v going to 1.2volts through water solution) Current gets reduced way down , due to tiny electrodes specific area of plug tips. (Not large plates in water)

Zero ohms resistance Champion / Autolite spark plugs pass the needed DC current as 2.8A average or 7 Peak Amps on scope. The circuit resistance by OHMS LAW requires volts divided by certain resistance to get the 2.8A. The circuit diodes reduce the 110v down, then the 10 to 1 reduction , so as the Relay resistance in series was total 1.2ohms at about 10volts DC. Close enough as 8A, to make Hydrogen gas and electrified water vapor pressure.

The system had been enhanced by the radiant energy provided inside the relay by the high volts against the diode cathode inbetween the 2 inductors. The R.E. Follows the wires to spark plug. One set double coils relay per cylinder. That's why they were called the "Magic relays".

I refer you to the old documents you read long ago about the Engineer
Who had US Patent on the added diode circuit to regular CDI ignition booster. The main discharge capacitor has LEFT OVER volts charge after firing Primary, so as the balance 50v 1ufd cap discharges balance through microwave blocking diode to high volts side. The loud SNAP at spark plug was aided by what he called the front side Capacitor. You can also use his Back Side Capacitor as high volts PF capacitor across the spark plug. The PF gets quick first charged by ignition, then when ignition then fires plug, the added energy makes extra snap energy , as called PLASMA SPARK.

I believe that the Briggs engine could have used the other, Tesla added circuit as ignition voltage booster, but would have needed way more diodes protection, that greatly reduced down the final needed low volts, to get the required amps.
I did recent bench tests regarding back side capacitors , liked the 20-30KV Blue ceramic capacitor as 1000PF- .01uf, - good snap noise. This design added is dangerous , and can put you on the floor. This simple method to get Plasma Spark that THEN allows the main amps to go through spark plugs. A plastic tube with insulated wire is necessary to safely discharge that capacitor before putting in the fingers.

As per my previous messages, I found out there are 3 types of Inverter boxes - square wave, modified square wave, and Pure Sine Wave types. Georgia people used the wrong one and always had uneven engines running, but they did run. Electrical loads that include 1.75mh +1.75mh, Inductors must have pure sine wave energy.

To further isolate the main Inverter box from shorting, on the Briggs engine, the return line at bottom of plug goes directly back to the Inverter terminal. The battery neg, is not connected to engine casting. You don't want 2 grounds together, inverter secondary DC neg and battery neg. The starter motor has the battery neg only. . The starter is electrically insulated from engine using nylon plastic bolts and washers. Lots of guys long time back had burned out their expensive Inverters with shorts. (neg to neg) Of course you can use 2 separate batteries.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #116 on: 2026-02-10, 01:21:49 »

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This video is an offshute of the earlier car engine conversions of spark plug electrolysis in Georgia . It is assumed, the same method was applied to the lawn mower engine here. The plastic tub holds the electromagnet putting field over plug wire to retard the timing , for use with hydrogen gas. Also in there is the dual coils relay for use with ONLY the interior 2 inductors and center diode. It is believed the vacuum sealed relay forms RADIANT ENERGY that benefits the firings. RE not escape because of no air, and follows wiring to plug. The 110v AC to Dc inverter (hidden in cement block rear hole ) sends 7 amps peak current as 2.6 amps average DC current through zero ohm Champion spark plug just AFTER the high volts pulse. The Magnetron trigger is aided by an added on, put together Patent TESLA small circuit that increases the Primary back emf , so as the secondary side gives way higher ignition volts, about 24KV as needed. Lawn mower ignition needs to be boosted up as equal to auto ignition coils. Uneven engine runnings during 2005-2008, was allieviated when adding in EGR for the Nitrogen content. Also the Inverter box should be changed to pure sine wave type,- not modified square wave type as commonly used, as not good with inductive electrical loads. The Briggs engine was self running on the ring , dual alternators under flywheel. The small flashlight battery pack for the ignition modification only used milliamps. The large car battery was only there for the starter motor, then completely disconnected. Low power conversion, but 18HP shown as working. The green Inverter in video background was broken and just left in video. That's why man said inverter WAS NOT USED in the 2 successful 2008 You Tube videos of S1R9A9M9.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #117 on: 2026-02-19, 22:42:29 »

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Data was finally found , about how to increase ignition volts on mower engine with SS Magnetron. It was a small parts set up from a Tesla US Patent. Yes, it adds a small inductor coil, diode, condenser, (capacitor) and wiring. One guy tested this and got 40KV on 50KV scale of ignition tester box. . Mower coils are usually 6-15KV . The conversion to Hydrogen requires firing at minimum 24KV or higher, for setting up the small plasma conduction path for the forthcoming heavier current to spark plug. Nathren in Georgia , about 2008, had said statement about implementing small Tesla circuit. This is in reference to the 2 Youtube videos of running 18HP Briggs engine on water in carb, - to hydrogen gas of spark plug electrolysis. There it is. There is Youtube video showing the bench set up to increase volts. My power supply on wood board is now complete for bench test of engine this spring. 7 amps average current from large wattage inverter box, but used on 17% dutycycle., as flywheel goes around per cycle.Their engines in Georgia did run, but unevenly, and they never figured it out why. They were using the wrong type Inverter box of 3 types. Inductors, as part of an electrical load require a pure sine wave type inverter . (2 inductors in relay) The secondary 110v side ALSO needs #gauge wire capable of 7 average amps flow. We know they had a 750watt Inverter box. The green 400W box was broken, and just left in the 2 videos as a distraction, cables not connected.. About 4 amps for the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet and about 11 amps for the inverter input side. Nathren said conversion took about 15 amps. THAT is max capability of the dual alternators on the Briggs 18HP engine. Main large battery is disconnected., after starter used. WHAT NATHREN PROBABLY MEANT, WHEN HE SAID THE ENGINE WOULD QUIT LATER WHEN BATTERY RAN DOWN, HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DISCONNECTED CAR BATTERY. . HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL MILLIAMPS USE BATTERY FOR THE ADDED TESLA CIRCUIT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT BATTERY GROUND , SO AS KEEPING THE MAGNETRON WORKING. The side tab terminal on Magnetron is normally used to shut off lawnmower, by grounding the tab. A different flashlight battery pack has a different ground. What happens is, there is an increase in the back EMF of primary side, so as the ignition is raised up higher.in kv.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #118 on: 2026-03-04, 00:38:28 »

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Nowadays, I'm doing the investigation of the lawnmower engine converted to run on plain water in carburetor. Spark plug electrolysis for Hydrogen gas , with self running engine. Why? because the initial battery is used for starter, then disconnected. The ignition has no battery input, as the magnet on flywheel runs the Magnetron. The power for idle speed comes from the normal dual alternators forming about 15 amps DC with bridge rectifier. (12) magnets on flywheel power the ring coils, Inverter box is used , along with a hand wound electromagnet OVER THE PLUG WIRE to change timing to ATDC. Looks like 4 A + 11 amp. The web forum is shut down. 2005-2008. See his (2) S1R9A9M9 YouTube videos of running engine. The special relay used in series may have provided Radiant Energy as an aid, because the chamber is in vacuum , so as no air dissipation. 3 technicians and Nathren the father. Son Nathren helped with conversions of cars and the Briggs 18HP engine. Small Tesla circuit for back EMF of primary of Magnetron raised up the high voltage also. There are many OLD Patents on water powered engines.The wife complained , as she wanted her 1978 El Camino V8 back that was converted , and on 18MPG water only in tank. She divorced him, and the (

relays were then put on a stationary shop engine running a power generator on water line only for free electricity for shop. Supposedly about 7amps discharge at the required 110 volts DC. Duty cycle about 17% - 34%. Tiny electrodes need 100volts and the water solution drops the voltage by 10 times. They called them the "Magic Relays" as that was the main help for the electrical circuit, using 1.75mh -diode-1.75mh inductor coils, .6ohm each coil. Source- Georgia power pole electrical box as for ac switching of Georgia traffic signal lights 6 volt.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #119 on: 2026-03-06, 00:00:17 »

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Research To Get Thing Done

I do my own research on a subject like you should, and do bench tests of parts circuits. Most Hydrogen circuits use a separate electrolyte cell with large plates/tubes. That allows for a very low voltage. Back in 2005 onward in Georgia, a workshop converted several cars as 4cyl, 6 cyl, 8 cyl and a tractor for spark plug electrolysis. These all used a special relay per cylinder as per PARTS, (not relay use) In 2008 a couple videos came out on the Briggs mower engine. I surmised, the same set up was used , except that a timing change retarded method had to be designed. Magnetic field from electromagnet extends spark time to ATDC. Because of the low duty cycle, of flywheel going around, the input power was low. The technicians and Nathren LATER changed their story , made lies, and misinformation came out, due to many guys getting hurt attempting their own conversions, and not knowing what they were doing. Data stopped , web forum shut down. Then there are others who don't believe in anything past the end of their nose. There are Ohm's laws formulas to apply, and Patented and non Patented methods to increase efficiency of standard, normal, low efficiency electrolysis. Seek and ye shall find. The turtle does not go forward unless he sticks his head out of his shell.

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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #120 on: 2026-03-25, 16:22:15 »

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Source Derivation of Original S1R9A9M9 Triple Coils Assembly

I made up paper folders for the different sections of S1R project. Today informing you about the 3 main components of the mower engine conversion of 2008, and reasons why. I'm going with the flow. The technicians in Georgia work shop did all the tinkering. Nathren senior is a non technical person. Long ago, I was the one who told you about the Briggs on board Dual alternators, running on 12 permanent magnets. Nathren said there weren't any. I found photo of the alternators wire harness behind starter showing as being present. With car battery removed , after starter use, there has to be source of electrical power. Now it is reasonably assumed the new mower engine is converted same way as the cars, with Inverter + Relay. The dimensions of relay allow fit inside plastic tub sideways, with S1r coil.

The technicians had earlier did a test in engine compartment about a hand wound electromagnet. That was called the 60 turns coil test. I sent you paper on that. 20 amps battery DC current flows through wire coil 60 turns OVER PLUG WIRE with steel core with amp gauge and resistor load. When ignition fires, the gauge momentary drops to 12 amps. 60% balance amps in electromagnet due to the ignition line inducing reactance ohms into the low volts line. By viewing on their oscilloscope, the TIME extension of spark was realized.
Now, in general, the magnetic field is in direct proportion to amps current within the same LENGTH coil. So the maximum amps from alternators as 15AMPS DC full wave rectified is divided up for 4.4A SEPARATE electromagnet to load resistor to ground, and 10.6 amps Inverter box primary side. Core steel nail or long screw was 3/16" at 3-4" long. 10.6+4.4 = 15 amps. So then reducing down the 20A to 4.4A is the SAME ratio 4.5 of winds. So 60 turns / 4.5 = "13" turns #16 gauge insulated wire S1R9A9M9 electromagnet. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
The #12-#14 bare copper wire was used as a FRAME SUPPORT for 90 degree 7 winds. The idea was to cause disruption interference with the ignition coil Magnetron to form longer on time for use with hydrogen fuel. 90 degrees and the lower magnetic field. CORE STEEL ONLY UNDER !3 TURNS as the electromagnet.
I did bench tests with neon bulbs graduated meter showing transfer of 90-200 volts induction to battery side coils. Some guys in forum grabbed the ends of low volts wires and got shocked. I also determined that bare wire cannot be used as shorting, "tick tick" noise and flash . This will cause uneven engine running. Insulated 16 gauge wire also shorted occasionally. I finally used 10KV white china high voltage cable to stop the shorts.
The conversion process needs an edge for efficiency. The car conversions worked, so to put it on video, the Briggs engine should work the same way. Nathren senior, shorted out the Green inverter box and left it in the videos. He said Inverter not used. Another smaller wattage unit was used for videos and probably hidden in cement block hole or underneath in ground hole. 100 volts is required for the tiny spark plug electrodes.
The Magic Relays, per cylinder, most likely were giving off Radiant Energy on each of the engines. High volts hits diode cathode . Diode shuts off. Plug fires, then diode on, releasing Radiant Energy. Data was from the alternate energy forum on Internet. The Relays perfect sealed chamber full vacuum allowed no dispersion of energy waves into air. The extra new energy follows circuit to spark plugs.
The triple coils is hooked up, through, from one end to the other end. In that regard your Megatran drawing is CORRECT. The old Georgia forum stated that it was just easier to wind 3 separate wire coils, with joint. Based on my drawing scenarios, the numbers 5 and 1 line, 7, and 13 turns are correct. The field was to slightly only adjust for late timing past TDC to get about 7 PEAK amps. Longer on time in milliseconds, past about 15% duty cycle, would lower the Peak pulse amps. The Georgia tech people said about 7 amps current was best for spark plug at about .080" gap , and the eventual slower eroding of electrodes. Please write back so I know you got my message.

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