Companion wave generator

[wattsup]

Each horizontal is bifilar 4 turns each.
I will wire this up next excluding the middle set using only top and bottom layers.

@GK

Given I now know how the horizontals are wound per each of your three levels as you said bifilar 4 turns, I have modified my drawing. This shows the three levels of your build and how to connect each level the same way, then put them in parallel to pulse. You can try this with only one or two, that is OK also.

The vertical winds are not shown but each level will have four as your build is done.

The top most wire receives Left means the bifilar wire that is against the top most part of the outer coils. The bottom most wire receives Right means the bottom most wire that is against the bottom most part of the outer coils. You do this per level then just parallel them.

Once this is done and you start testing to find the greatest output on your outer coils. You can then change where you are pulsing to see the differences compared to this base method.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

Dual supply for avr dds controller and scalar wave detection ampilfier.

[giantkiller]

The GK3 has 3 layers of 16awg bifilar stranded copper. Each layer has 4 segments of 20awg solid wrapped perpendicular. Around all layers there is a cage of 1 segment wrapper of 16awg bifilar stranded copper.
I am pulsing the 3 copper cores as Wattsup has posted with 10watts left and right channels.
Have wired up the 3 red segment layers in series for scoping. 13khz with 90d phase gives highest natural p-p signal.
With the LC setup for resonance of the secondary this can be run like a Tesla coil.
By pumping in sine waves to the horizontals not only can I produce an effective aperture but short the coil at 90d or at the quarter wave length height. I can spin the magnetic field also with this sync'd pulse of the control coils.
Shorting the coil at the 90d mark essentially reproduces the Magnacoaster effort.

[wattsup]

The GK3 has 3 layers of 16awg bifilar stranded copper. Each layer has 4 segments of 20awg solid wrapped perpendicular. Around all layers there is a cage of 1 segment wrapper of 16awg bifilar stranded copper.
I am pulsing the 3 copper cores as Wattsup has posted with 10watts left and right channels.
Have wired up the 3 red segment layers in series for scoping. 13khz with 90d phase gives highest natural p-p signal.
With the LC setup for resonance of the secondary this can be run like a Tesla coil.
By pumping in sine waves to the horizontals not only can I produce an effective aperture but short the coil at 90d or at the quarter wave length height. I can spin the magnetic field also with this sync'd pulse of the control coils.
Shorting the coil at the 90d mark essentially reproduces the Magnacoaster effort.

@GK

Can you please explain something. The indications I provided were designed for the device you showed on page 1 with the three distinct levels, each having your horizontals and those four vertical coil sections (12 verticals in all). But the picture you show above is a different unit, I think. So then I gather that this newer build follows the general idea. Sorry but I am a bit confused here. And what about the other drawing you showed of the two rings and the six coils paired in twos.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

There are 3 devices.
The GK4 / iron wire core.
The one you originally posted for has only 3 segments on 3 layers.
The last one, gk3, has 4 vertical segments / control coils and 3 horizontal layers.

The common component is 3 layers of bifilar stranded. The difference is the number of control coils / segments.

The 4 segment unit, gk3, lends itself to the 2 frequencies of 90 degrees phasing.

Also in both units the horizontals are low impedance and I am proposing a test of the comp wave generation on those, but only on one of the bifilar run. This would put the event inside the control coils and directly on the other run of the bifilar pair.
If you have another train of thought for the GKBFG2k I can apply that to the that unit. I have all these set up on my bench with pulsing controls.

This last thing I want to try is the compwave generation on the GK4 because of the iron core. I don't want to get hurt again. When the core saturates and the high speed pulses hit it, the energy shoots off in all directions. What I did not mention before was I wrapped the whole thing in aluminum foil for a cage. The sparks fly off the creases. A friggin Frankencoil ! Maybe I did something wrong or right.

But back to the GK3 coil. I am curious as to what you suggest for the GKBFG2k using the 3 segments. Marco had posted a scheme against it with the 3 layers and 3 controls sequencially but then posted that it was wrong. It is setup and good to go by what you mentioned. The counter running pulses on the bifilar are very similar in nature to the compwave generation scheme. The tricky timing scheme you mentioned is in league with the 50ns pulses at 100ms gap. This is applicable to the 5k to 20k frequency range. Just like a speaker... So this fits the output parameters of the audio amps.

By applying square waves into the audio amps I get the same pulse shape Bruce_tpu posted 2 years ago.

A caveat here: Lets look at speed. The Muller replication without the flux cutting is a slow attempt. With the flux cutting the speed is then appreciably accelerated. The counter rotating pulses speed things up phenominally. And this is where the scalar waves come from. It is this next frequency range that is necessary. We are way beyond BEMF here. And that is the key.

[wattsup]

@GK

Would it be too much trouble if you could please make a post with a picture of each unit and name the image as per their designation or add them to your last post. I just don't want to make any assumptions.

It is pretty incredible how such builds, when pulsed in a particular manner produce some very interesting coupling efficiencies that would equal or even surpass standard transformers while offering direct coupling without having to work with massive laminates.

Also, a few days ago you posted a diagram of another device that had two distinct rings with six coils wound over them. But you removed that drawing. That one really caught my eye because if the rings are not insulated, and if the coils can slide on the loops somewhat, it is a perfect candidate for understanding nodes. I put a quick drawing of it below.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

Tower coils:
The 6 small vertical coils on the 3 red coils of each layer do not slide and it is 3 layers.

Smith clone:
The red one has 4 red segments,  2 horizontals with 2 verticals. I can add another vertical quickly. These slide.

Not shown are the GK3 and the GK4.
The GK4 with iron wire cores pulsed with the dual pulse compwave generation scheme does not produce the wave.
I will configure this next to pulse the outer cage windings as one long winding to see compwave generation.
Scope shot of the GK4 outer wire cage as one run.
The coil segments are all ready setup for rotation pulsing. I will try both simultaneously. The iron wire had no depricating effect on the pulsing scheme.
Its like having a set of FrankenLegos.  

[giantkiller]

This pertains to the GK4:
The red coil is driven(12vdc) as bucking inside the light blue compwave cage(100vdc) @ 4 hertz.
The cage is supplied by the EC600 @ 7ma at 14xxx hertz. These speces were to keep the unit safe. I will attach the cage supply to an RV battery to increase the current to increase the compwave size.
Also the cage is serially connected of 4 segments. I will reconnect them all as 4 parallel segments to reduce the inductance further.
Will reconnect the 4 red segments for rotational drive.

In running the bucking set up in the cage I turned the cage on and off and nothing showed on the meters or scope but the amber monitor shows slight flux changes.

The goal is to up the power, apply slight reconfigurations and alter the 14khz down to some harmonic to match the 4 hertz of the inner coil. Also to raise the rotational frequency.

[wattsup]

Tower coils:
The 6 small vertical coils on the 3 red coils of each layer do not slide and it is 3 layers.

Smith clone:
The red one has 4 red segments,  2 horizontals with 2 verticals. I can add another vertical quickly. These slide.

Not shown are the GK3 and the GK4.
The GK4 with iron wire cores pulsed with the dual pulse compwave generation scheme does not produce the wave.
I will configure this next to pulse the outer cage windings as one long winding to see compwave generation.
Scope shot of the GK4 outer wire cage as one run.
The coil segments are all ready setup for rotation pulsing. I will try both simultaneously. The iron wire had no depricating effect on the pulsing scheme.
Its like having a set of FrankenLegos.  

Hi @GK

Sorry but had a few crazy days to work out.

OK, I was always thinking of the Tower coils when I suggested the audio lcr. Of course you can apply it to all your builds. Even if this is not the final answer for one build, it will give you some good learning about coil dynamics.

GK, the main reason I mentioned this regardless of this or any other system, if you build a structure that you want to ring from start to finish, then you have to make two. If you make a build and want only half to be active, then build it any way you want, this is what we are doing now. I am starting to understand that very sly fellow @brnbrade. This is where we are making some major mistakes.

If we wind an outer coil of 180 degrees and 1000 turns, we have to realize that when you pulse it on one side, only half of it will actually react in a dynamic manner. That is the pulse end. The pre-biased end will always remain pre-biased. The pulsed end will change polarity. So, if you want to make 1000 turns of wire fully reactive, you need another 1000 turns coil in series and up the input power.

That's why on the Tower Coil horizontals I suggest you pulse on the topmost and bottom most wire with the L and R and parallel the other ends to C. Your two turns was perfect so at least one 360 degree loop will be shifting.

Also, it does not matter if the Tower Coil has three verticals instead of four since I would always consider the verticals as being the output accumulators. I doubt that pulsing in the verticals will create enormous power in the rings. There would be so much cancellation events happening on that one coil to try and make head or tales of any. It is the rings that must ring, like bait for a school of fish. The bait is for ether to attack the ringing and while it does that it passes through the outer verticals (your fish net) creating your magnetic fields and permeating the area around the rings.

Now for the "Piece-de-resistance" which is that beautifully looking and tenderly build Smith clone. It just makes my mouth water with all the potential things you can do with it. I prepared a few drawings to introduce you to the possible ways of pulsing and also of considering how to pulse with other rings in future  builds.

I have to also indicate that that this build reminds me the most of the LTPU.

I think the ideal practicing rig would be a simple 100 turns coil that is wound flat and a few horizontals that can slide up or down for "nodeing around" versus the applied frequency.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

@Wattsup,
On the horizontals: I am wondering if they could sit on the outside?

[giantkiller]

The sites I reference are:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10606.msg281423#msg281423
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraconv.htm

I have another take on this:
As can be seen in the schematic picture below all the devices have secondary coils that are different from the primary either in inductance or frequency or both.
The timing in between the input parameters is just right that the bell is rung in a specific way as to entice a special resonance and return.

This model adheres to shorting the coil, Flux cutting, Magnetic field aiding or abetting another...
Now I know why Sauron / SM? posted those video coils!
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=26.msg133#msg133
They would fit in all the TPUs and be very visible in size to those blocks under the open TPU. The LTPU / SM17 has 2 center tapped coils in the center.

Here is a progression of waveform attempts until a final coup' de grace'

20080501a:

20080502b:

20080502c:

20080605:

20100611:
This unit acts as a one shot, mechanical Tesla coil. I vary the input parameter of the primary and the secondaries respond.

20110612:
Have added two more primaries on the empty quadrants for a total of 4. These are moveable and slide from beginning of segment to end.

[wattsup]

@GK

First off thanks for the reference to the Naudin link on Parametrics. Just some great effects and explanations are top notch.

When you look at the introduction page, Fig. 2 and it says "If in accordance whith Fig 2, the afore-mentionned core is now alternately inserted into and withdrawn from the inductance L and this inductance is, in turn a part of tank circuit, then a parametric oscillator result."

I immediately was thinking what if you put two coils side to side that share the same movable sore. When it moves into one core, it moves out of the other and vise versa making two effects with one movement. lol

OK about your videos I guess especially the last image you put up of Smith Clone with now four yellow coils, I would suggest you start with the pulsing of the top and bottom rings, If you can determine which of the top loops is the highest then put the L on that, then see which of the bottom loops in the lowest and put the R on that then put the C to the other two ends.

For now, just for noding around, leave the red coils as you can simply pulse and read off only one of the yellow coils that you again connect via a diode and a high uF capacitor with an LED. When you see a rise in output from that coil, then try to slide it left and right slightly to see how this effects the output. If it does not, then try to go to a higher frequency with again the best output, then slide that coil again to see any changes in output. The changes in output will mean the nodes are on or off the complete yellow coil width. Once you are in the right position, then add the second yellow coil (alone or in series with the first) and measure off the that. Slide the second one left and right to see if you can increase output.  Then you add the third, then the fourth. The four coils do not have to be in a perfect quadrature, as long as you find the nodes, it won't make any difference.

You can also pulse the rings and work off the red coils. You can only work with the pulse for those. Now the advent of finding one frequency that will provide maximum output to both the reds and yellows will be difficult. You may have to go and use your frequency generator to use higher frequencies.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

Can do, but there is only 1 top and 1 bottom horizontal loops.
My thinking on the smith clone is to parametrically drive two segments in serial and short either the beginning or ending coil. On the white ring coil in the video as you can see I change the inductance and capacitance by grabbing the coil at the pulse end. Grabbing the coil at the ground end did nothing 'in this setup'. So the operation was a single shot parametric operation.

@GK

First off thanks for the reference to the Naudin link on Parametrics. Just some great effects and explanations are top notch.

When you look at the introduction page, Fig. 2 and it says "If in accordance whith Fig 2, the afore-mentionned core is now alternately inserted into and withdrawn from the inductance L and this inductance is, in turn a part of tank circuit, then a parametric oscillator result."

I immediately was thinking what if you put two coils side to side that share the same movable sore. When it moves into one core, it moves out of the other and vise versa making two effects with one movement. lol

OK about your videos I guess especially the last image you put up of Smith Clone with now four yellow coils, I would suggest you start with the pulsing of the top and bottom rings, If you can determine which of the top loops is the highest then put the L on that, then see which of the bottom loops in the lowest and put the R on that then put the C to the other two ends.

For now, just for noding around, leave the red coils as you can simply pulse and read off only one of the yellow coils that you again connect via a diode and a high uF capacitor with an LED. When you see a rise in output from that coil, then try to slide it left and right slightly to see how this effects the output. If it does not, then try to go to a higher frequency with again the best output, then slide that coil again to see any changes in output. The changes in output will mean the nodes are on or off the complete yellow coil width. Once you are in the right position, then add the second yellow coil (alone or in series with the first) and measure off the that. Slide the second one left and right to see if you can increase output.  Then you add the third, then the fourth. The four coils do not have to be in a perfect quadrature, as long as you find the nodes, it won't make any difference.

You can also pulse the rings and work off the red coils. You can only work with the pulse for those. Now the advent of finding one frequency that will provide maximum output to both the reds and yellows will be difficult. You may have to go and use your frequency generator to use higher frequencies.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

Since I do not have a third horizontal I have taken another approach to producing nodes and I think I have accomplished this.
I have 2 serial pairs of the red coils with a horizontal in series but as a middle coil. This creates a coil inside the red ones at 90 degrees. I get resonant coupling but it is choppy and larger than normal though only 600mv compared to 12vdc power supplied. I believe it is because of the magnetic bias of the blue horizontals.

[wattsup]

@GK

I had been so absorbed in this Romero puzzle that I forgot to mention about your one turn loops. If there are only one turn on top and one turn on the bottom, just add another loop to each from the outside. It does not matter if the second loop is in or out as long as the pulse (L or R) enters the real loop sides first. The second loop could even be placed outside the real loop and turned like a pig tail. It does not have to turn around the coils. The added length of wire will put the center point at the end of the first loop which is what you want otherwise you are only really pulsing on half of the loop.

wattsup

[giantkiller]

Here is the other side of the loops.

[giantkiller]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponderomotive_force

The mechanism of the ponderomotive force can be easily understood by considering the motion of the charge in an oscillating electric field. In the case of a homogeneous field, the charge returns to its initial position after one cycle of oscillation. In contrast, in the case of an inhomogeneous field, the position that the charge reaches after one cycle of oscillation shifts toward the lower field-amplitude area since the force imposed onto the charge at the turning point with a higher field amplitude is larger than that imposed at the turning point with a lower field amplitude, thus producing a net force that drives the charge toward the weak field area.

[giantkiller]

200vdc input, 60 spike, 1.5 ma, No magnetic field, Companion wave in a ring.
12vdc bias gets added to the blue collectors next. I will raise the supply voltage to 1000vdc.

It does no good to put one of the collectors in series yet because of the lack of magnetic field.
It does no good to add a magnet because there is nothing to extract.


There are 2 ring control coils, yellow and red separated by a vinyl run to duplicate the antenna wire on the SM17.
The 3 blue collectors are 4 turns.

Next steps:
12vdc bias gets added to the blue collectors. These are 90 degrees to the control coils.
I will raise the supply voltage to 1000vdc.
Wrap in entirety an overall bias coil to facilitate a parallel magnetic field to the controls.

We stress matter with waves of potential and not currents of electrons.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

In regard to Reply #38,

I'm looking into trying to incorportate the basic design of these coil(s) into my concept(s) for UFO propulsion.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

This reply also notifies me of further replies to this thread.

--Lee

[giantkiller]

Displacement current @35:25

[giantkiller]

12vdc low voltage bias.
Nothing extreme on collector, 13vpp.

Will raise the voltage to 1k in increments have to hookup the microwave power supply to the collector.

[giantkiller]

HV protocol setup

[giantkiller]

An obvious configuration from SM's statements of [No mass circuitry] and [normal coil operation].


My current build is a similar type build of the SM17. I added the smaller section of the primary pointed out by some one else at the right hand back end.
This now looks like a circular Tesla coil. I even have the 3 horizontal collectors of 4 turns each. Stranded silver coated copper. I have run this item in two different fashions. As I add parts I am changing the incident angle of the compave generation to the biases. This build is like a specific spreadsheet to throw parameters at it.
In one of the setups I need to alter the 14k running frequency(base band) of the dual pulses to match some similar strike point in the circumference.
I went from the paper tube configuration to the 4" ring configuration with ease. This pointed out to me that the low inductance coil is the key. I still have only 4ma current. The voltage is at 200vdc. The first coil winding I tried was the vertical windings on the 4"PVC. I then added a 3" subsection as a low inductance primary. The dual pulse protocol works just a well. My ec600 supply identifies when the limits of voltage, watts, or current have be reached. Very nice safety feature.
I have not added any caps to the primary or secondary windings yet. I want to maintian the compwave as I change my base parameters. I have 50 6a10 diodes. I can make bridges of any size current or voltage should the need arise.
I am focused on the two pairs of caps and the discrete components in the center of the SM17. They are there for a reason. AS I get further along with this configuration I see where and how the components are attached.
I have not seen the compwave generation applied or expressed anywhere in the OU forums except the talk of frequency per circumference.
I also have taken two things said. One by Don Smith and one by Tom bearden. Don wrapped a folded lamp cord around his arm in the 1996 demo video and commented on this is the simplicity. It flew by everybody. Tom Bearden stated that the effect was not readily seen by our primitive instruments, but that it is there. I believe capacitors can absorb energy out of the normal levels we are experienced in and the at the compwave [excess] would store in a cap. The spike is really a much greater transmission than just what we see on the scope. Similar to an EMP but at a higher band. Very much similar to when a flux field rejoins itself after the cut of a wire through it. I have not seen this model in discussion much either and it is very intruiging. The flux reconnecting in one direction creates an electron flow perpendicular to it along a conductor. But that is not what I am focusing on. It is that instant of reconnection that imparts energy.

[giantkiller]

The kick that I get is a 71 volt peak and 100ns wide at the base. I supply 200vdc at 400microamps.
The SOL in inches is 11,784,960,000.00
I have a 4" diameter ring of 1 3/4 inches high.
I have a bifilar vertical wrap of 56 turns. This equals 196 inches in wire length.
100ns wide equals 1,178.50 inches which is 6 times greater than the wire length.
So the kick in this build represents 6 revolutions of outward and center pressure.
Timing this to hit a certain time in the ring is a start and stop time in an established bias. The bias is on for 6 revolutions.
The Android Tricorder picks up no magnetic field at all. But the secondary winding of 1/6 the circumference picks up 8v.
The runtime frequency of the pulse scheme is 14,650.23.
I produce 6 revolutions of bias at 14,650 times a second.
This equates to 4,104 rpm. Very close to SMs statement of 5khz.
So the only thing I can surmise from this is the start and stop times of the 6 revolution window runs as a phasing around the ring.
I have a configuration here that begs for a PLL situation. But the amount of circuitry I already have here is the back seat of a small car.
I have had a DC bias field applied but the spike lessens in height.

But...
I put the scope on one of my horizontal collectors I get ~16vac with a ring down of 1 microsecond.
This is the second time I have achieved 90 degree coupling!
Then I serially connect up the other 2 horizontal collectors and I get 20vac with very enhanced ringing.
I will put a cap on that and tune it for Tesla's resonance with amplification.
Did SM not state [You can connect up 3 wires in many ways?].

Also,
I believe the thumping that the TPUs make are the sparkgap. The slowest part of the discharge where we hear the snapping is about right.
Squeezing the hose or hitting an open ended wire is the secondary of a Tesla coil.

[giantkiller]

I added a diode before the scope.
That blip down the line interests me. It resides there at 173.913 KHz. I raise the frequency to align to it but can not catch it.

The outer bifilar section is looped into itself from the serially connected collectors.
This puts it at a kick place where the compwave pulsing starts. This wind produces 84vac with ringdown at a length of 6us. That is where the bump on channel 1 (red) appears. Strange.
The outer bifilar is only 1/6 or 16.6% or ~66 degrees of the coil.
32 outer turns against 56 inner turns though.
I am going to wind a 15 turn trinary outer on the 32 turn outer and pulse that.
What is interesting to note is that I have no capacitors in the coil circuit and very low inductance to produce that prominent decay.