What appears to be a working replication of John Searl SEG

[Peterae]

The results contained in this Russian replication of the SEG appear to show OU

3. Experimental results
The magnetic-gravity converter was built in a laboratory room on three concrete supports at a
ground level. The ceiling height the lab room was 3-meters, the common working area of the laboratory
was about 100 sq. meters. Besides the presence of the iron-concrete ceiling, in the immediate
proximity from the magnetic system there was a generator and electric motor, which contained some
tens of kilograms of iron and could potentially deform the field's pattern.
The device was initially started by the electric motor that accelerated the rotation of the rotor. The
revolutions were smoothly increased up to the moment the ammeter included in a circuit of the electric
motor started to show zero or a negative value of consumed current. The negative value indicated a
presence of back current. This back current was detected at approximately 550 rpm. The displacement
meter, 14, starts to detect the change in weight of the whole installation at 200 rpm. Afterwards, the
electric motor is completely disconnected by the electromagnetic clutch and the ordinary electrodynamics
generator is connected to the switchable resistive load. The rotor of the converter continues to selfaccelerate
and approach the critical mode of 550 rpm where the weight of the device quickly changes.

[pdf]http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1490.0;attach=8145[/pdf]

[Farmhand]

This is very interesting to me, it reminds me of Otis T. Carr's machine.

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://keelynet.com/gravity/carrdisc.jpg&imgrefurl=http://keelynet.com/gravity/carr3.htm&h=354&w=587&sz=60&tbnid=bYI6Rakb2cUmGM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=135&zoom=1&usg=__4soQF23a7zTyEeHR9HvyGzp6v4g=&docid=_mAqSjq-w5YsAM&sa=X&ei=ZocIUI7bAqOsiAeppqihBA&ved=0CFwQ9QEwAg&dur=464

There is never much talk of his device or theories on the free energy forums, he used counter rotating field/rotor
arrangement, and he claimed the same carona surrounding his devices when the resonant frequency was reached.
He used spinning gyros with coils on them on one rotating element and C shaped field magnets on the other rotating element.

Very interesting.  Viability confirmed in my eyes. This I think is a real and legit free energy machine.
It should be getting a lot of attention from mainstream media and science. But it has gravity generation issues
I think which will not go over well with the one who stole Otis's design. Maybe they can do nothing about it any more.
Lets hope they can't.

Nice find. Thanks

Cheers

[Farmhand]

I have to say though that Otis's design seems better, Searles design does look copied from Otis's.
From what I can gather Otis assisted Tesla at a latter stage of Tesla's life, and the reports of the
phenomena from the 1950's 1960's by Carr and associates is very compelling. I believe this is what
all the suppression and distraction is aimed at stopping, this kind of Technology is "Planetary" or
"Solar System" model tech and draws its energy from the same source as the planets is what I think.
Otis also studied Water Russell and his gyro's were the shape of two cones joined at the base so
when looked at side on they form a square profile when looked at from a point they make a circular profile
Otis referred to this as the "universal" shape. Which is of course the shape of two opposing vortices.

Searle shows that the principal works for just tapping energy without the angled gyro's, for generating
power vertical ones should keep it on the ground.

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[PhysicsProf]

   It's interesting, thanks Peter and Farmhand.

"This I think is a real and legit free energy machine.
It should be getting a lot of attention from mainstream media and science." -Farmhand

  What is it that convinces you?   Can you point to a paper or video where measurements of output power are given, and design details?
Who has replicated?
(IS there suppression?)

[Farmhand]

Well I'm convinced but only because of the different inventors who have done similar things
and seem to have had similar experiences, Townsend-Brown I think had a different method
but there was Searle and Carr who both separately developed different but similar devices
(I was wrong to say one might be a copy of the other) Anyway they describe the same phenomenon
with the carona envelope and gravity generation, I can't point to any solid measurements but there is a
radio interview with Otis Carr where he says a certain independent company tested a small device for thrust
and so forth. I'll gather some info if I can find it all the pictures are easy to find but the radio interviews
can be difficult.

But anyway this Russian setup sounds legit and some of the descriptions of the effects fit perfectly with Cars description
of effects from the 50's interview's. With an open mind what Carr Says makes sense and he was marketing for big bucks
so he would have had many secrets if true. It is possible they both developed slightly different ways to do the same thing
but I think it safe to say they all knew of the ones before them.

When I think about it it just makes sense, you have a ring of planets all spinning with presumably the poles up and down
(cars angled and the two cone shape with pointed top and bottom and wound with coils) these planets spin while revolving
through another magnetic field and when resonance is reached the entire thing acts like a solar system complete with the
pretty pink and blue carona and other strange effects.
For flight the counter rotating system would make the entire device like a big resonant gyroscopic- solar system kinda thing wouldn't it ?

Well I think it makes sense when Carr explains it.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

OK I have to say thank you very much I just did a quick search and found some pictures and stuff I haven't seen before.
http://bluestarenterprise.com/articles/otis-t-carr/otis-t-carr-otc-x1-spacecraft-photos-radio-interviews/

Seems all the radio interviews are on there. 

[Peterae]

Just starting to do some research into the 2 Russian guys.

Here's some more info

[pdf]http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1490.0;attach=8146[/pdf]

[Peterae]

Looks like they have a patent as well, shame it's in Russian 

V.V. ROSCHIN & S.M. GODIN

Searl Effect Generator

Russian Patent # 2,155,435
Mechanical Energy Generating Device & Process

http://www.rexresearch.com/roschin/rg1.htm

[giantkiller]

The attached pdf at bottom of post is not the same as the posted pdf. I would have never seen the link in the pdf via my phone browser. O.U.R has been firewalled at work.
Here it is.
http://www.exmfpropulsions.com

[stprue]

Here's a few interesting videos of the SEG.  I cant see the videos posted because of a missing plug in, but I do not think these are repeats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gRnzI2os0&feature=channel&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qvSNkiB9M&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yID01RjBzDE&feature=channel&list=UL

[Farmhand]

Hi stprue, those are interesting video's, we can see in them the field coils similar to Otis's setup
Searle uses half toroid cores to get force on both poles of the rollers and Carr used "C" shaped
filed cores to get force on both poles of spinning rotor cores/coils. Pulsing the field cores can
rotate the device up to speed then they can generate.

They both have spinning magnets rotating through a magnetic field, I think Searles inner ring is
magnetized as well. Which would make the field coil control a little easier,but his rollers roll around
with no restriction other than the magnetic force holding them there.

Cars device has no permanent magnets. Just steel and copper, a much better way to go in my opinion but more
engineering is involved, for such a device that is still not a concern in a factory or commercial building environment.

If Seals device is proven to work then I see no reason why Carr's method would not be tried as well.
I think they are using the same principal in a slightly different way.

These drawing attached show the planetary/solar system principal.

The coils wound onto Carr's double cone shaped rotor cores would appear as Tesla pancake coils when viewed from an end.
And may well be connected to the capacitor plates on the rotor.

I think the spinning magnets that rotate are the clincher for power production. Difficult for one of us to build such a thing
without spending a lot of money. So who wants to fund it ? Permanent magnets could be used on a Carr type rotor maybe if they
were mounted in bearings maybe non magnetic if possible, maybe a non magnetic shaft could be put into a tube magnet and
mounted that way. 

OK I'm off to ebay.

[stprue]

@Farmhand,

Thank you for the description of the other devises.  They sound simpler to build, which would make them easier to replicate.