Brain storm

[Duncan]

A quick bout of madness I thought I might infect you guys with it before it goes away..

I enjoy mad cap Idea's and if I have one and don't quite see how the outcome might be, well what better place to launch it than here among my peers. After all I can withstand a lampooning far better than a big hit on my wallet .
I openly confess I'm more than happy to plagiarise others work but unlike some am more than happy to acknowledge the people and sources. I also like to try and introduce you to my thinking and logic ( however lunatic it may seem ) so you may see what I consider through my eyes .
I am of course looking always for the exotic, the simple and cheap way that the rules can be broken.
We need to change this world and quickly!
Here then is the starting point please be so kind as to regard this video. By whyme2b of this already very efficient water heater .. here's the rotor construction

Here is whyme2bs very nice construction of a water jacket (which I am going to suggest an alteration to in a moment)

here's whyme2b s heater in action

now let me point out before I go much further that the action of a magnet on copper is a profound mystery to the top academes, particularly when considering dropping a close fitting magnet down a copper pipe near absolute zero. Some calculate the magnet would rise some that it would remain static .. this quote

If the pipe were super-conducting, the magnet would not drop at all. It would just sit there floating in mid air
from this web page.
 
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/academy/papers/How_Parallel_Path_Gets_Over_Unity/

although whyme2bs water heater is obviously very efficient he makes no claim to COP >1 and lets be honest about it boys and girls that's what gets the hearts a flutter isn't it ?
Well your standard training and dogma tells you that lenz effect (basically) is causing the drag on the motor and of course you assume that's associated with the heating. Its a fair assumption very neat and glib but is it right?
We are then assuming that self induction is causing the heating effect,  what then if we presented the spinning magnets with a wall of copper but removed the induction ? Oh yes and how do we do that I hear the shout . Well how do they do it with wire wound resistors ? How did Tesla do it?



Bifilar windings of course ! Well if you can do it with wire I don't see why you can't with copper pipes do you?
Would the heating effect remain ? I honestly don't know but IMHO Its worth a gamble.
What do you think boys and girls ? Any quick cheap way to find out ? Answers on a post card

[EMdevices]

Do these devices produce more heat then accounted for by electricity input?

[Duncan]

I wish I could answer EM I have never built or seen one tested and certainly not in a Bifilar config ... just brain food .. or perhaps offal 

[Mehmet]

Do these devices produce more heat then accounted for by electricity input?

I don't think so, but it's highly efficient.

[Tommey Reed]

HI All,

Let me say that this is not efficient for many reason.

Magnets hate heat, the greater the heat the weaker the magnet become and will stay.

1 watt = 3.41 BTU's, it takes 1 BTU to rise 1lb(15.37oz) of water 1deg in an hour.

Eddy's Current is at play, as the magnet spins it create electrical current like a rotating transformer.

The pipe is shorted out that create a big load on the motor, this in term creates heat.

The energy is waste in the spin of the motor and Eddy's Current!

Tom...

[Farmhand]

Umm, in the video demo, the device was not heating water, it was only heating the copper piping, the input was over 2000 Watts not considering the power factor, and it's a device with mechanical wear and losses. I don't think it would be any more efficient than a heater element, and it's noisy.

Here we use pumps to pump rainwater at times, we have mains water hot and cold and a rainwater tap for drinking non fluoridated water, the sound of the pump annoys me when I use it.
Anything that makes noise is losing energy that way as well.

I think eddy currents are doing the heating as was already mentioned.

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