Could a Magnet be a Cosmic Energy Sink?

[Farrah Day]

Cosmic Energy, the Aether, Cosmic Background Microwave Radiation, Vacuum or Zero Point Energy... whatever your preferred term, I think most of us would agree that space is not empty, and that tapping into this energy has enormous possibilities, and is indeed the goal of many here.

With this in mind, some recent events have got me thinking. Has anyone ever considered that magnets, rather than throwing out an energy field, might in fact be absorbing cosmic energy? Ie, the lines of force we see formed in, say iron filings, show the cosmic energy flow into the magnet rather than the magnet's own energy flowing out. Hence, the magnet is actually acting as a sink for the surrounding cosmic energy, and the lines of force we see is the cosmic energy being concentrated. In much the same way that mass distorts the space-time continuum.

It seems from everything I've gleaned about OU devices, that it takes some initial energy to 'tap' into the much greater cosmic energy, almost like poking a stick through a dam to access the great reservoir of water beyond.  So perhaps a magnet could be used as the trigger, the key, or indeed a portal to cosmic energy.

Which brings me to this.  The other day I was experimenting with two 25mm x 12mm neodynium disc magnets, and as many of you will have experienced, even these relatively small magnets are extremely powerful.  Now I don't know if anyone has pursued this line of experimentation, but if you have ever tried to force any two such magnets like poles together in your hands you will know that it is impossible to do. The energy required to force like poles of even two small neos together is quite incredible. In fact it never ceases to amaze me, just where is this energy - which does not appear to exhaust - come from. 

So what I'm wondering is, has anyone experimented with forcing like poles of two neos together long-term? 

For example by putting them in a tight tube so that there is little to no sideways movement and then somehow forcing them together - eg. in a vice.  As I see it, if this is done and the magnets are then held in place and sealed in the tube or such-like, then there will be an enormous potential residing therein.  Ok, it will have taken some brute force energy to initially get the magnets close to each other, but what of the energy the magnets are now exhibiting.  Will it last indefinitely, if not how long?

I haven't done anything in the way of this kind of experimenting myself yet, but thought I'd throw it open for comments in the hope that someone might already have gone down this road and hence have some valuable experience and/or results.

What I'm really interested in is how these two confined magnets, forced like poles together, will now react when influenced by other magnetic fields, and indeed if there is any possibility of an amplification of energy effect that might lend itself to a practical OU device, for example an electric motor.

Any thoughts?

[ion]

In the book "Tapping The Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King, he describes a device comprised of counter-rotating acrylic discs is subjected to abrupt bucking magnetic fields (pulsed electromagnets). A charge is presumed to accumulate on the discs and is collected by copper bands at the periphery.

Bucking magnetic fields have always fascinated me since I first saw photos of the fictitious "lines of force" turning extremely sharp right angle turns in old books on electromagnetism.

King may have something here, and this is a device I've always wanted to replicate. The idea that the magnetic sharp right angle turn manifesting orthogonally in a rotating piece of acrylic is intriguing if it indeed gives rise to electric charge in the acrylic.

I've held the belief that a disconnected "line or tube of force" in a permanent magnet may manifest as an electric charge. Is this worthy of further research?

[forest]

A sink , lens, dipole. Yes,magnet is all this.Here is the final secret.
Build you circuit like magnet and tap cosmic energy.Like Earth is doing.

[Grumpy]

In the book "Tapping The Zero Point Energy" by Moray B. King, he describes a device comprised of counter-rotating acrylic discs is subjected to abrupt bucking magnetic fields (pulsed electromagnets). A charge is presumed to accumulate on the discs and is collected by copper bands at the periphery.

Bucking magnetic fields have always fascinated me since I first saw photos of the fictitious "lines of force" turning extremely sharp right angle turns in old books on electromagnetism.

King may have something here, and this is a device I've always wanted to replicate. The idea that the magnetic sharp right angle turn manifesting orthogonally in a rotating piece of acrylic is intriguing if it indeed gives rise to electric charge in the acrylic.

I've held the belief that a disconnected "line or tube of force" in a permanent magnet may manifest as an electric charge. Is this worthy of further research?

Is there a connection between the two acrylic discs?

The bucking magnetic fields produce a radial magnetic field with a single pole, so you will have a radial force on charges in the disc, but they are "bound" in the material.  You are also rotating the discs, so you have a separate force there perpendicular to the magnetic field.  So, I would expect charge to separate in the verticle axis, but no more than that seen in the Wilson Effect, but the radial mag field spreads out so you may get more from this.

I'd modify this to use a conductive disc with brushes/contacts on top and bottom to see if that radial mag field offers any gain. 

To create a current you need charge separation and charges separate according to known rules.  If you apply additional forces you can cause the charges to gain energy rather than just separate.  Take a quick look at the Faraday Homopolar Generator:  vertical magnetic field, rotating disc, radial current produced. This is a simple application of the Lorentz Froce Law.  You apply a force to the charges while the charges and the force are perpendicular to a magnetic field.  If you can add an additional force superimposed over the frist drift direction (radial) then you will produce an accelerated drift, but it will not be radial but at an angle to the original radial direction.  Now you have a device that runs with gain: News at 6PM!

[ion]

I doubt that conductive discs will yield results. Read the original article in Moray King's book if you can find it. The discs are nearly touching while counter rotating.

Try to imagine the sharp right angle turns from the bucking fields occurring in the acrylic material and possible shear forces due to counter-rotation.

Probably best if the magnetic fields are centered on the axis of rotation, rather than skewed as in King's diagram.

Electrons can be centrifuged since they have mass.

[Grumpy]

Look at the forces on those electrons.

[ion]

Here is the text and diagram from the book. Hope it sparks a few ideas.

[giantkiller]

This brings to mind pulsing a coil around a magnet to aid or compress the field. I still see some type of resonant pulsing here that can harmonically affect the process.
Even though we flex magnetic fields all the time isn't there some frequencies that ring the process better than others. I also see this as dependant on the materials and configurations used.

Hope this fits here in this thread. We can build or test alot of items to experience some part of the process. But in the end I see it all boils down to the flux manipulation.

[Peterae]

Thanks ION

Dam this is right up my street, i will have to add this to my build list in the future.

[Peterae]

Tesla was known to have conducted an experiment to determine whether the magnetic lines of force had direction of movement by using a pulsed ferrite rod, he placed a brass disc above the rod in close proximity that could freely rotate, the idea was that the induced eddy currents would couple and if there was more coupling in one direction then the disc would spin, i never found the results from this published

[Grumpy]

A magnet is not an energy sink.  It is just an object that polarizes space in a particular way.

[Farrah Day]

A magnet is not an energy sink.  It is just an object that polarizes space in a particular way.

Meaning what exactly???

[wattsup]

@Peterae

The image @ION just put up gave me a flash. Did you ever try top gen coils in series, bottom gen coils in series, this way each gen coil that gets hit provides more juice to the top or bottom pool of series gen coils. One wire from each series pool goes to an FWBR on the AC side. You let the coils figure it out and not try to micro manage everything with so many fwbrs. Imagine what will happen with all that AC out of phase in series but all going in two directions. Also by not having a pair of gen coils is series like Romero as pairs on each side of the rotor magnet, you are not fighting the cancellation effects. All gen coils will be in series with their own creed and each will be hit at every instance at one level or another. Instead of producing pair clashes with drag, the drag gets lost in the other coils in series like a series drag dissipation system. It is quad because two ACs, each on their side of the track. You can call it a Havoc Test. lol

wattsup

[ion]

Thanks ION

Dam this is right up my street, i will have to add this to my build list in the future.

Hi Peterae

This device has been on my to do list since I first read the book in the late '80's. You would think I would have had the time to build it it by now, but I was involved with other builds such as Hendershot, which looked more promising etc. back then.

No excuses tho, I will have to do it till something more interesting shows up. Glad you find it interesting.