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Great Britain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain

A single Kingdom of Great Britain resulted from the union of the Kingdom of England (which had already comprised the present-day countries of England and Wales) and the Kingdom of Scotland by the 1707 Acts of Union. More than a hundred years before, in 1603, King James VI, King of Scots, had inherited the throne of England, but it was not until 1707 that the two countries' parliaments agreed to form a political union. In 1801, Great Britain united with the neighbouring Kingdom of Ireland, forming the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, which was renamed the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" after the Irish Free State seceded in 1922.

Political union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_union

A political union is a type of state which is composed of or created out of smaller states. The process is called unification. Unifications of states that used to be together and are reuniting is referred to as reunification. Unlike a personal union or real union, the individual states share a central government and the union is recognized internationally as a single political entity. A political union may also be called a legislative union or state union.

Corporatism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism

Corporatism, also known as corporativism,[1] is the sociopolitical organization of a society by major interest groups, known as corporate groups (as well as syndicates, or guilds) such as agricultural, business, ethnic, labour, military, patronage, or scientific affiliations, on the basis of their common interests.[2] The relevant adjective is corporatist (or corporativist), but the adjective corporate is also sometimes confusingly used though it normally refers to the underlying interest groups (corporate groups), not their organization of society. Corporatism is theoretically based on the interpretation of a community as an organic body, a living organism with different organs.[3] The term "corporatism" is based on the Latin root word corpus (plural corpora) meaning "body"[4] or, in the case of Fascist Italy, on the word corporazione (derived from the aforementioned Latin word, with the meaning of "embodiment", "association"), the Italian name for what was known in Germanic Europe as a Medieval guild.

In 1881, Pope Leo XIII commissioned theologians and social thinkers to study corporatism and provide a definition for it. In 1884 in Freiburg, the commission declared that corporatism was a "system of social organization that has at its base the grouping of men according to the community of their natural interests and social functions, and as true and proper organs of the state they direct and coordinate labor and capital in matters of common interest".[5] Corporatism is related to the sociological concept of structural functionalism.[6] Corporate social interaction is common within kinship groups such as families, clans and ethnicities.[7] In addition to humans, certain animal species like penguins exhibit strong corporate social organization.[8][9] Corporatist types of community and social interaction are common to many ideologies, including absolutism, capitalism, conservatism, fascism, liberalism, progressivism, reactionism and guild socialism.[10]

Corporatism may also refer to economic tripartism involving negotiations between business, labour and state interest groups to establish economic policy.[11] This is sometimes also referred to as neo-corporatism and is associated with social democracy.

Corporatocracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

Corporatocracy /ˌkɔːrpərəˈtɒkrəsi/, a portmanteau of corporate and -ocracy (form of government), short form corpocracy, is a recent term used to refer to an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests.[1] It is most often used today as a term to describe the current economic situation in a particular country, especially the United States.[2][3] This is different from corporatism, which is the organisation of society into groups with common interests. Corporatocracy as a term is often used by observers across the political spectrum.[2][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][excessive citations]

Economist Jeffrey Sachs described the United States as a corporatocracy in The Price of Civilization (2011).[16] He suggested that it arose from four trends: weak national parties and strong political representation of individual districts, the large U.S. military establishment after World War II, large corporations using money to finance election campaigns, and globalization tilting the balance of power away from workers.[16]

This collective is what author C Wright Mills in 1956 called the 'power elite', wealthy individuals who hold prominent positions in corporatocracies. They control the process of determining a society's economic and political policies.[17]

The concept has been used in explanations of bank bailouts, excessive pay for CEOs, as well as complaints such as the exploitation of national treasuries, people, and natural resources.[18] It has been used by critics of globalization,[19] sometimes in conjunction with criticism of the World Bank[20] or unfair lending practices,[18] as well as criticism of "free trade agreements".

Fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[5][6][7][4][8][9]

Fascists saw World War I as a revolution that brought massive changes to the nature of war, society, the state and technology. The advent of total war and the total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilians and combatants. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war.[10][11] The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines and providing economic production and logistics to support them, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens.[10][11]

Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[12] Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society.[12] Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature and views political violence, war and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[13][14][15][16] Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[17]

Since the end of World War II in 1945, few parties have openly described themselves as fascist and the term is instead now usually used pejoratively by political opponents. The descriptions neo-fascist or post-fascist are sometimes applied more formally to describe parties of the far-right with ideologies similar to, or rooted in, 20th century fascist movements.

What is the only structure that stands in the way of Corporate Fascism ?

Sovereign Independence and Self Determination of unique peoples and the nation state they control for the common good of those peoples, hence the constant drive for political union into a federalised nation, and the cultural genocide of independent peoples via open borders and the racism card to silence dissent. The one party system of the west operates under the illusion of democracy and political choice but in truth all mainstream political parties work towards the goal of a one world government via the political union mechanism. The current propaganda war disseminated by the west is designed to designate independent sovereign states as strategic enemies of the federation and to form a national consensus for aggressive warfare. Conspiracy and deception to commit fait accompli is the main weapon of choice to achieve these goals:

Fait Accompli

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fait_Accompli

Fait accompli, a French phrase commonly used to describe an action which is completed before those affected by it are in a position to query or reverse it


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Charlemagne Prize

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_Prize

The Charlemagne Prize (German: Karlspreis; full name originally Internationaler Karlspreis der Stadt Aachen, International Charlemagne Prize of the City of Aachen, since 1988 Internationaler Karlspreis zu Aachen, International Charlemagne Prize of Aachen) is a prize awarded for work done in the service of European unification.

The first Charlemagne Prize was awarded to Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi, the founder of the Pan-European Movement.

Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi

Richard Nikolaus Eijiro, Count of Coudenhove-Kalergi[1] (November 16, 1894 – July 27, 1972) was an Austrian-Japanese politician, philosopher, and Count of Coudenhove-Kalergi. The pioneer of European integration, he served as the founding president of the Paneuropean Union for 49 years, which would be the preliminary ideological foundation of the European Union.[2][3] His parents were Heinrich von Coudenhove-Kalergi, an Austro-Hungarian diplomat, and Mitsuko Aoyama, the daughter of an oil merchant, antiques-dealer, and major landowner in Tokyo.[4] His childhood name in Japan was Aoyama Eijiro. He became a Czechoslovak citizen in 1919 and then took French nationality from 1939 until his death.

His first book, Pan-Europa, was published in 1923 and contained a membership form for the Pan-Europa movement, which held its first Congress in 1926 in Vienna. In 1927, Aristide Briand was elected honorary president of the Pan-Europa movement. Public figures who attended Pan-Europa congresses included Albert Einstein, Thomas Mann and Sigmund Freud.[5]

Coudenhove-Kalergi was the first recipient of the Charlemagne Prize in 1950. The 1972–1973 academic year at the College of Europe was named in his honour. Coudenhove-Kalergi proposed Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" as the music for the European Anthem. He also proposed a Europe Day, European postage stamp[6] and many artefacts for the movement (e.g. badges and pennants).

Angela Merkel received the COUDENHOVE-KALERGI PRIZE in 2010

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=20058.0

"Hundreds of Germans are attempting to bring criminal charges against
   Chancellor Angela Merkel, accusing her of treason by opening the
   borders of Germany to mass migration."

Blair wins the Charlemagne Prize

https://www.historytoday.com/russell-chamberlain/blair-wins-charlemagne-prize

Tony Blair becomes the third British PM to receive this annual prize for promoting European unity.

The International Charlemagne Prize of Aachen

http://www.karlspreis.de/en/

Charlemagne Prize Laureate 2018

Emmanuel Macron

The President of the French Republic, Emmanuel Macron, will be awarded the International Charlemagne Prize of Aachen on 10 May 2018.

Emmanuel Macron receives Charlemagne Prize for European unity in Aachen

http://www.dw.com/en/emmanuel-macron-receives-charlemagne-prize-for-european-unity-in-aachen/a-43727296

French President Emmanuel Macron received the Charlemagne Prize in Aachen "in recognition of his vision of a new Europe." In his acceptance speech, Macron described his long-term goals for the European bloc.

Suspect in deadly Paris knife attack was native of Chechnya, official says

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/13/paris-knife-attacker-claimed-as-soldier-isis.html

A knife-wielding suspect who slashed five people, killing one, in central Paris on Saturday night -- before being slain by French authorities -- has been identified as a native of Chechnya, born in 1997, a French judicial official said.

The parents of the suspect, who was claimed as a “soldier” of ISIS after the attack, have been detained for questioning, the official said.

Treason

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's nation or sovereign.[1] Historically, treason also covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a husband by his wife or that of a master by his servant. Treason against the king was known as high treason and treason against a lesser superior was petty treason. A person who commits treason is known in law as a traitor.

At times, the term traitor has been used as a political epithet, regardless of any verifiable treasonable action. In a civil war or insurrection, the winners may deem the losers to be traitors. Likewise the term traitor is used in heated political discussion – typically as a slur against political dissidents, or against officials in power who are perceived as failing to act in the best interest of their constituents. In certain cases, as with the Dolchstoßlegende (Stab-in-the-back myth), the accusation of treason towards a large group of people can be a unifying political message. Treason is considered to be different and on many occasions a separate charge from "treasonable felony" in many parts of the world.


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We were lied to! Secret document FCO 30/1048 kept truth about EU from British for 30 years

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Brexit-EU-secret-document-truth-British-public

A SECRET document, which remained locked away for 30 years, advised the British Government to COVER-UP the realities of EU membership so that by the time the public realised what was happening it would be too late.

Surprised to see this in the UK MSM ? Me too! Now where is the BBC report on this I can't seem to find it..

I can find a complaint about it though:

http://bbccomplaints.com/jeremy-vine-3/

Jeremy Vine
Channel: BBC Radio 2
Programme Date: 24/05/2016

Author: Ratcatcher, Westminster Sewers

An interview was arranged head to head between Nigel Lawson and Neil Kinnock under the heading of those politicians that have changed their minds over Europe and these were invited to put their story. However what the program failed to mention was that Neil Kinnock was along with his wife, appointed an EU commissioner and as such became multi millionaires from their positions. What was also not mentioned was that it was Neil Kinnock that sacked Marta Andreasen the EU chief Auditor, after she reported that Fraud and Theft from the EU ran into billions of euros and she could not sign off the accounts. This man and his wife were bought and paid for by the EU and supported the attempted cover up of fraud and theft. The EU made them both multimillionaires from taxpayers money, they are not fit to give any kind of opinion about the EU.

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Julie
06.06.2016 AT 9:03 AM
Read her book Brussels Laid Bare. The Leave campaign should also have pointed this out. Also the Jean Monnet quote That the EU is a superstate, that the public should not be told this, that the EU would be all about economics to conceal the true meaning of the EU to bring about a Federal supersater , the FCO 30/1048 document showing how the public were lied to by Edward Heath and then Harold Wilson, this should be the core of the Leave EU campaign

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06.10.2016 AT 8:13 PM
Disgrace!!! Can these facts be made to wider the wider public.


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I would love to post John Wight's investigative op-ed from a western MSM outlet, but they don't have articles of this quality, so I post it from RT:

Can Pyongyang trust Washington? Ask Native American Chief Red Eagle

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/426925-north-korea-trust-us/

John Wight

Trump's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement casts serious doubts over Washington's role in the peace process on the Korean Peninsula.
It poses the question of how Washington can possibly be trusted to keep its word when it comes to guaranteeing North Korea's security if it proceeds with denuclearization and the dismantlement of its nuclear development program. For as any serious student of US history knows, trusting Washington to keep its word is akin to trusting a crocodile not to close its jaws upon putting your head in its mouth.

With this history of mendacity and duplicity in mind, the recent photo op involving US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un – shaking hands and smiling at the camera – calls to mind Shakespeare's admonition: "False face must hide what the false heart doth know."

Don't believe me? Just ask Native American Indian Chief Red Eagle.

In her landmark book on the shameful history of Indian Removals, 'The Trail of Tears,' Gloria Jahoda recounts a meeting that took place between Red Eagle and US General and future President Andrew Jackson in 1813. It occurred in the aftermath of the futile attempt by Red Eagle and his people to halt the westward expansion of white European settlers into their lands.

After a hard fought struggle against overwhelming odds in which hundreds of his warriors were killed, and desperate to save his tribe's women and children, Red Eagle arrived at Jackson's headquarters to offer himself up in surrender. According to Jahoda, despite shaking hands with his Indian counterpart and guaranteeing the safety of his people and their right to remain in peace on their own land, Andrew Jackson was convinced that "America's frontiers would always be frontiers while there were Indians to annoy the settlers. The Indians must go." Thus Jackson "silently pledged to himself to the policy of Indian Removal which in his presidency was to become law. It would be a simple law: any Indian who remained on his ancestral lands affirming his Indian identity would be a criminal."

The burning question is whether 2018 is a re-run of 1813, with US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in the role of Andrew Jackson and Kim Jong-un a latter day Red Eagle; with the former providing assurances to the latter that neither he nor the government he represents has any intention of fulfilling?

Just how much trust can the North Koreans place in the word or an administration which at the same time it is pledging to guarantee their security in return for denuclearization, is unilaterally withdrawing from a treaty its predecessor made with Iran in conjunctions with the other five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany over its nuclear development program?

History is the best teacher and never more than now, crucial for a world interested in stability and peace when it comes to understanding the nature of what it is dealing with in Washington.

Just in case anyone is under any illusions in this respect, US author William Blum in his classic book 'Rogue State,' described in the subtitle as "a guide to the world's only superpower," lays it out: "The leaders of the United States strive for world domination, for hegemony wherever possible; this had been their main occupation for over a century, it's what they do for a living."

He goes on: "The United States, NATO and the European Union form a Holy Triumvirate. The Holy Triumvirate has subsidiaries, chiefly the International Monetary Fund, World Bank, World Trade Organization, and International Criminal Court. All help to keep in line those governments lacking the Holy Triumvirate seal of approval."

Another leader with hard experience of Washington's duplicity and perfidy is Mikhail Gorbachev, hailed for his role in ending the first Cold War, though in the process unable to save the Soviet Union.

Based on declassified documents, a 2017 report by the Washington-based independent research institute, the National Security Archive, confirms that during negotiations with the Soviet government, led by Gorbachev and undertaken as part of the process of bringing the Cold War to an end, categorical assurances were given by Western governments, led by Washington, that upon the reunification of Germany there would be no attempt to expand NATO eastward towards Russia's borders.

In fact, a "cascade of assurances" was given to the Soviets, with then-US Secretary of State James Baker going as far as to pledge that NATO would expand "not one inch eastward" in a meeting with Gorbachev on February 9, 1990. It was only as a result of these assurances that the Soviet leadership was prepared to accept German reunification, given its security ramifications in a period of political turmoil.

Returning to the Trump administration's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, the decision, clearly, was taken at the behest of a fundamentalist neocon foreign policy establishment in Washington in conjunction with US regional allies, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Thus the security of the American people and stability of the Middle East has been sacrificed on the altar of a hegemonic agenda that can only sound a warning in Pyongyang that Washington's objective is not peace with North Korea but the country's surrender.

Further proof is the demand issued by Trump's notorious national security adviser, John Bolton, that the North Koreans must ship all their nuclear weapons to the US in return for assurances on their security and a relaxation of US sanctions. Such a move by the North Koreans would be folly, tantamount to placing themselves at the mercy of a neocon Taliban.

Washington's role in any process of peace and reconciliation on the Korean Peninsula can, ultimately, only be an impediment to its chances of success. If it is to succeed, then Washington must be excluded, requiring that the South Koreans step forward as an independent state and refuse to accept any longer its status as a US satellite. The Trump administration's demand that Pyongyang dismantle its nuclear deterrent as a precondition for peace and reconciliation is an impertinence that should be treated with the contempt it deserves. If there is to be a precondition, it should be a joint one on the part of the North and South Korean governments, demanding the departure of US troops and military installations from the peninsula.

Whatever happens, none should forget the price paid by Red Eagle and his people for trusting the assurances of Washington: We were told that they wished merely to pass through our country… to seek for gold in the far west… Yet before the ashes of the council are cold, the Great Father is building his forts among us… His presence here is… an insult to the spirits of our ancestors. Are we then to give up their sacred graves to be allowed for corn?


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‘The Saker’ Isn’t Just Wrong, He’s Irrelevant – Putin’s An Excellent Warrior

https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/05/the-saker-isnt-just-wrong-hes-irrelevant-putins-an-excellent-warrior/

“The greatest warrior is not he who wins every battle. The most excellent warrior is he who wins without fighting.”
– Sun Tzu, The Art of War, 600 B.C.

I have read The Art of War many times, and you can bet that Vladimir Putin has too. I found the quote above to be the most important maxim in that masterpiece, and I think Putin would agree. And when the “fighting” could potentially lead to the 3rd World War and the extinction of Humanity, then to avoid fighting becomes as important as avoiding defeat, because the 3rd World War is a war no one will win. Once it starts, we all lose. And so far, it is Putin who has prevented the war from starting.

The recent criticism of Vladimir Putin for “betraying” Syria or the Donbass Republics or even Russia itself is as impudent as it is misguided, and it comes from the usual collection of armchair warriors and self-styled pundits who actually seem to think they know more about geopolitics than Vladimir Putin does.

They seem to fail to understand that war requires sacrifices, as well as deception, and that perhaps all may not be exactly as they think it is. They also fail to understand that preventing war sometimes requires distasteful compromises. These self-appointed critics and “strategists” should look at the results of Putin’s work, rather than be confused by their amateur interpretation of how he accomplishes it. And they should keep in mind the fact that Putin’s objectives may not be the same as their own, and that it is always easy to talk when you have no skin in the game.

Let’s start with the recent words of “The Saker”, aka Andrei Raevski, an alleged “Pro-Russian analyst” who is “personally bitterly disappointed” by the nomination of Dmitri Medvedev as Prime Minister. He goes on to quote a comment he read on Youtube – “Putin betrayed the people, we didn’t vote for Medvedev”. While the second part of the comment is technically correct, it is the parliament, not the people, who votes for or against the President’s nominee,  the “Putin betrayed the people” lie is straight off the Strelkov/Suchan/5th column troll farm.
Note that The Saker doesn’t actually say it himself, but by quoting an anonymous comment off Youtube, he does actually say it himself, and then our illustrious analyst goes on to say he is “afraid” it’s going to be a “very widely shared feeling”. As he himself shares it as widely as he can. It is not a feeling shared by those with any sense or any skin in the game, but perhaps among some of the credulous naifs who read and believe his drivel.
There are a number of legitimate explanations for Medvedev’s appointment, but The Saker “doesn’t buy any of them”. Or apparently even understand any of them. He then goes on to claim the appointment pours fuel on the fire of rumors that Putin will cave in on Syria and/or Donbass, even as he pours fuel on the fire of those rumors by spreading them himself.
He claims to be aware (as “we all” are) of “alarmist rumors circulating all over the internet about this for many days”, and goes on to say the nomination will strengthen these “very dangerous” rumors, even as he spreads and strengthens them himself. Is it treachery or idiocy? Either way, it’s anti-Russian propaganda by a White Russian immigrant who lives in the USA, and pretends to support Russia’s battle against US hegemony.
A calm and rational examination of the facts shows the above interpretation of Medvedev’s appointment to be baseless, melodramatic fear-mongering. The fact is, the Prime Minister, whose actual official title is “Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation”, serves at the pleasure of the President, and can be fired and replaced at the President’s discretion. The President may himself chair meetings of the Cabinet, may give obligatory orders to the PM, and may revoke any act of the government. The term “Prime Minister” is strictly informal and is actually never used in the Russian Constitution, federal laws or official documents.
The President has complete control of the PM. Putin is the immensely popular President, Medvedev is the unpopular PM who Putin appointed and can fire at any time. No need for fear or bitter disappointment. Or abject misinterpretation. What better way could Putin have to keep Medvedev on a short leash than to have him as PM under these conditions?
I am no fan of Medvedev or his oligarch clique, but Putin’s appointing him doesn’t mean that he is either. There is a well known quote that is from the book The Godfather – “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” The simple interpretation of this quote is “know your enemy”, but the much more profound meaning is that you don’t want your enemies to know that you are enemies. This vital distinction may be lost on some Russian voters, Youtube commenters and self-styled analysts who think they are qualified to advise and criticize the former KGB Colonel and current President of the Russian Federation, but I am quite certain that Putin himself understands it perfectly. So, only a fool or a liar would say “Putin betrayed Russia” by appointing Medvedev.

Sergey Kurginyan (the only Russian I trust and admire as much as Putin) pointed out that Putin has six years to complete the monumental tasks he has set for Russia, and realistically, he needs the Medvedev Bloc’s help. Their report card comes out two years from now. If they help, they stay, if they don’t, they get booted, all Russia sees it, and Putin sill has four more years to install a new team of oligarch hunters, and to do some hunting himself. And if you haven’t heard of Kurginyan or want to know where he stands on other huge questions facing Russia, check out this clip where he breaks down who Gorbachev really was, and what he was all about. His analysis is cutting. He’s no liberal, no bourgeois reformer.


If Putin did not betray Russia, what about Syria and the Donbass Republics? The quick, simple and obvious answer is that the fact that they still exist proves that he continues to support them and has not betrayed them in any way. The idea that Syria or the Republics could have survived without Putin’s support is laughable, and only an idiot could put forth such a proposition. Yet some do. They say that Putin has “betrayed” Syria by not responding to recent provocations and that Russian forces should have attacked US forces that are illegally in Syria after the US attack in which Russian contractors were killed.


The story about “500 Russians killed” is a lie. There were about 100 soldiers killed by the US air attack, mostly Syrian Army, with about 15 to 20 Wagner contractor/advisers. And unlike the various keyboard commandos who called for the start of WW3 over the incident , I actually know what happened. A friend of mine was there, and I have seen the video. Yes, it was a treacherous and underhanded attack by the US, knowing there were Russians among the Syrian soldiers, but this provocation is not worth risking a real world war over, is it? What kind of imbecile could possibly think it would be?

The same goes for Trump’s impotent and ridiculous missile attacks, and Israel’s as well. Yes, all these attacks were “allowed” by Russia, but Russia told both the US and Israel where they were, and were not, allowed to shoot, and both obeyed the Russian mandate.  The cost of the attacks for the US was far greater than the destruction they imposed on Syria, and the Israelis probably just barely broke even. Enough Pyrrhic victories like these, and the US and Israel will defeat themselves. And Putin will stand aside and allow them to. He will win without fighting.
Of course, the Russians are fighting in Syria, against ISIS and other Western terrorist proxies, and they are winning. The US and Israeli attacks are absolutely meaningless in regards to the final outcome of the war, so why should Putin escalate? Putin and the Russian military have drawn their lines in the sand, and it is clear the US and their allies understand and respect them. If they are foolish enough to cross them, those who now call for war will soon be begging the Russians for peace. Yes, soldiers were killed, but they were not Russian soldiers or Bashar al Assad. And getting killed is a risk every soldier must face. It’s part of the job, and sometimes they must even be sacrificed. That too is part of the job. This is sometimes hard for keyboard commandos and those who have never been soldiers to understand. And they should refrain from commenting on things they don’t understand.

As for Putin’s “betrayal” by inviting Netanyahu to Moscow, yes, a rather disgusting sight considering Israel’s recent actions, but a very shrewd move, not “stupid” or a betrayal.
There’s a difference between bad optics, and bad moves. Bad optics can be a bad move, but there’s much more to reality than optics – much more than meets the eye. This is so basic, the expression itself is currency.
No doubt Netanyahu standing beside Putin made Trump, Poroshenko and Netanyahu nervous. Yes, Russia has again put the S-300 delivery to Syria on hold, but the sale and delivery of S-400’s to Turkey is still on schedule. Think about Erdogan calling for all Muslim countries to unite against Israel.

Erdogan truly is a megalomaniac, with dreams of being a new Salahudin and leading the ME, and a war against Israel makes him exactly that. And I doubt he’s forgotten about the US engineered coup attempt against him, and where Fetullah Gulen lives. But Turkey doesn’t even need the S-400’s. It’s still in NATO, so basically bulletproof from Israel, even from their nukes. Because if Israel gets into a shooting war with Turkey, it invokes Article 5, and either NATO has to go to war against Israel, or NATO falls apart, because if the US and EU NATO members don’t defend Turkey, how can they trust each other?
Either way, Putin wins without fighting. The more you think about it, the more you like it!
 
The same applies to those who say Putin “betrayed” Donbass. Take my word for it or figure it our for yourself. After four years of war, the Republics still stand.
While we certainly do have our problems, life has gotten better in every measurable way, and continues to, just as it has gotten continually worse in Ukraine. If not for Putin’s support, we would have been attacked and overwhelmed long ago. Putin has said these exact words – “If the Ukraine army overruns Donbass there will be a genocide of ethnic Russian people. We will not allow that.” What do you think he means, “We will not allow that”? I know, the people here know, the Ukrops and US military knows, and so far, they have not been suicidal enough to try it. Putin will never betray Donbass.
I’d bet my life on it. In fact, I do bet my life on it. Millions of us here do. And we know it. We respect and appreciate it. We are still here because he is with us. As long as the Republics exist, we are winning. Time is on our side, and just like NATO, the Kiev junta and Ukrop Nazis will eventually consume themselves. The Republics too, can win without fighting.
There are few men in history, much less alive today, who have the courage, the honor and the true genius of Vladimir Putin. Those who call themselves “pro-Russian” and use the words “Putin” and “betrayed” in the same sentence only prove themselves, without exception, to be either fools, or liars and traitors. Remember the lesson Girkin (“Strelkov”) taught us here in Donbass. A false comrade is a real enemy. As for the fools, they are not just wrong, they’re irrelevant. They blow wind about actions they don’t even understand. The dog barks, and the caravan moves on. What matters is the results. And the results speak for themselves.  Things have gotten better in Syria, Donbass and Russia itself ever since Putin came along, he hasn’t betrayed anybody, and he’s not going anywhere till the job is done.
The job is to protect Russia, and protecting Syria and Donbass does protect Russia. It also prevents World War Three. And preventing World War Three protects us all. So far, Vladimir Putin has done it, and done it well. He is refusing to escalate, minimizing violence as long as his red lines are not crossed. And those lines have not yet been crossed. It is important for those who live under the regimes that make provocations and call for war to do whatever they can to prevent their governments from going too far and crossing those lines. We should all give Vladimir Putin a hand in trying to prevent World War Three. If we win without fighting, we all become most excellent warriors.
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Russell Bentley has a very good point to make. I have been wondering myself what is going on with The Saker lately (he has said he has been struggling with poor health). I have not been able to detect any change in the writing style so it's probable that the latest crop of articles has been written by the same person.. but I wouldn't go as far as Russell in asking "Is it treachery or is it idiocy?" it could well just be personal bias bubbling up. Sometimes you can overextend yourself. Whatever the reasons are I don't agree with The Saker's latest positions.

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Who do you all think carried out these attacks?
I mean-who was the ring leader--who was the group?
What impact will this have on the American people if it is found that there own government orgistrated these attacks?

The more you look into this,the more idiotic it becomes to think that this was all carried out by Bin-ladin.

Building 7 is what will bring down the real perpetrators--no pun intended.

I know our own Steve Jones was also investigating the use of thermite--maybe he could share his finding direct with us-->a thread update if you will.


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Who do you all think carried out these attacks?
I mean-who was the ring leader--who was the group?
What impact will this have on the American people if it is found that there own government orgistrated these attacks?

The more you look into this,the more idiotic it becomes to think that this was all carried out by Bin-ladin.

Building 7 is what will bring down the real perpetrators--no pun intended.

I know our own Steve Jones was also investigating the use of thermite--maybe he could share his finding direct with us-->a thread update if you will.

Brad


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The usual suspects, Bush Chenney, Mossad, CIA, FBI, NSA a good explanation is Molecular dissociation weapons, Beam weapons...

3.  Molecular Dissociation: “The collapse of the WTC buildings produced the highest mass per volume of very fine particles (nanoparticles) ever measured in an air sample in the United States.  It takes a tremendous amount of energy to dissociate or break the molecular bonds of steel, concrete and other building materials that were “powdered” into very fine particles during the collapse of the buildings. The largest mass per volume of metals ever measured in an air sample in the US were reported by Dr. Thomas Cahill who did air monitoring for 5 months. Metal is used in buildings because it is very strong – and would require large amounts of energy to reduce it to nanoparticles. Chemical explosives do not release enough energy to produce that volume of very fine particles.  A much more energetic process was involved such as laser or beam energy which releases focused and concentrated energy as complex waveforms necessary to cause molecular dissociation.”

4.  Physical Evidence of Buildings Collapsing: “In videos of the collapses on 9/11 the WTC buildings erupted into emulsion like a drinking fountain, and the rubble did not hit the ground.  Even on tape huge pieces of aluminum building siding vaporized as they were freefalling, and never hit the ground.”

5.  Controlled Demolition: “The [collapse of the WTC buildings] was not a 'controlled demolition' for the following reasons:

WTC Detritus Pile -  “Should have been 1/3 the height of the WTC buildings.  The 100+ story WTC buildings were about 1 story high when the collapse of the buildings ended. A fireman on one of the news videos said the antenna that had been on the top of WTC Building 1 was on the top of a pile of rubble about one story high. The rubble pile should have been 35 stories if it was a conventional controlled demolition.”

WTC Rubble Never Hit the Ground – “This defies gravity, where did the rubble go?”

Footprints – “Geometrically Round Holes: contiguous round holes 24’ in diameter were in the footprints of the WTC buildings 1 and 2, and a 60’ deep geometrically round hole was in the middle of Liberty Street near the WTC. This is evidence of beam weapons. There was no debris inside the footprints of the two WTC buildings, only bare dirt with circles in the dirt.”

Dust -  “In videos of the collapse larger particles fell and cascaded down from the buildings under the forces of gravity, but before they hit the ground they vaporized and suddenly went up into the atmosphere like an antigravity demonstration.  Nanoparticles are so tiny that they are not subject to the forces of gravity, so molecular dissociation occurred on the larger particles as they were freefalling, reducing them into nano-particles (0.1 microns in diameter and smaller) that suddenly obeyed other physical laws of quantum mechanics.  More evidence of [directed energy weapon or] HAARP/beam weapon technology applied during collapse.”

9/11 Satellite photos - “[9/11 satellite photographs showed] dust going into upper atmosphere –which had to be nanoparticles and may have been enhanced by other technology because most very fine particles/dust would stay in the Troposphere and be rained out in 2 months as we know from depleted uranium particulate releases from battlefield already.”

1400 Toasted Cars - “Located blocks from the WTC buildings, with door handles missing, engine blocks missing, blistering on some parts of the car finish, strange rust patterns on the bodies of the cars.”

Paper Around Cars Not Burned - "Whatever ‘vaporized’ the engine blocks and the door handles on 1400 cars did not ignite fragile and flammable paper lying all over the ground around the cars. If engine blocks and door handles selectively vaporized, why didn’t body of car vaporize?”

Pile of Cars Spontaneously Combusted - “In a news video, the entire pile of cars started burning spontaneously at the same time with no visible cause, it was not a fire that started in one car and spread to others.”

Rust Occurred Immediately - “On cars and trucks, and in FEMA photos there was heavy rust on steel beams – steel does not rust, and it is a slow oxidation process that results in rusting of iron.  This rusting happened immediately.”

Basements Of WTC Buildings Undamaged - “Stuffed mannequins in the basement of WTC with clothing on were carried out of the basement undamaged.  If a 100+-story WTC building collapsed into its basement and left a 35-story rubble pile, there would be nothing left in the basement. Even streetcars underground at the WTC were pulled out after the collapse and had no damage.”

Prof. Cahill Air Monitoring Samples - “The hardest and most durable materials vaporized (steel, concrete etc), and the most fragile materials (paper) cascading out of WTC windows and all over the ground for blocks were undamaged.”

Truckloads of Potting Soil - “Right after the WTC disaster, the ground was “fuming”, and sequential FEMA aerial photos show 130 dump trucks full of soil (filled almost to the top of the dump truck space) covered with tarps so that the dirt in the trucks was not visible to onlookers on the street, coming into the WTC area, dumping the soil and going out for more. This happened even before the rescues or cleanup started and it continued for some time. The piles of soil were left for a week and got higher each day in sequential photos. The soil ‘fuming’ lasted until March 2002 (8 months).”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBW4JjBZJMw

Boots Disintegrated – “Boots on emergency responders disintegrated after 2 hours.  They had to get new boots every 2 hours – an effect of molecular dissociation.  It was not from burning, their skin would have been damaged.”

No Ground Fuming During Rain - “For 99 days the “burning” (fuming) continued at the WTC site, but when it rained there was no fuming. If it had been fires burning, the rain would have caused steam from heating rainwater.”

USGS: Iron versus Steel -  “The USGS analyzed the mineral form of the rust on steel beams and iron objects at the WTC. They did not address the ‘steel does not rust’ issue, but dodged it by referring to the rusted steel beams in the rubble pile as ‘iron beams’ and gave mineral analyses of iron minerals produced by oxidation.”

Official Sample Data Not Reliable – “Spectral absorption images at the WTC indicated average particle size was about 1 micron, which is subjected to gravity and would have fallen with the collapsed buildings. USGS did not collect many dust samples and collecting samples by other different agencies did not agree with each other. No samples were taken at the toasted cars.”

Directed Energy Weapon Evidence - “Evidence of use of a directed energy weapon was present at the top of the WTC buildings as ‘lathering up’ started before buildings started coming down. ‘Lathering up’ in videos preceded the collapse of all buildings, even Building 7 which supposedly Larry Silverstein when he said, 'Pull it' to firefighters meant controlled demolition. Color alteration and modification in news videos compared to other photos/videos at tops of buildings indicates “doctoring” of images.  When the Seattle Dome was destroyed with controlled demolition, the dust created by the destruction did not get any higher than the top of the building. The WTC dust got into the upper atmosphere almost immediately – which indicates very tiny atmospheric dust sized particles (0.1 micron and smaller), in fact smaller than atmospheric dust that stays mainly in the Troposphere.

“Lathering Up” Incriminating - “WTC Building 7 ‘lathered up’ even before WTC Building 2 went down. WTC Building 7 not damaged at all by WTC Building 2 going down – right next to each other.”

Freon tanks -  “Very odd, large tanks were removed from WTC building and OSHA made bogus statement about what and why they were removed. Was freon used in WTC takedown? A NYC cop whom the researcher met with Cindy Sheehan said he was injured in WTC Building 7 and removed on a gurney, but his eyes were covered so he could not see anything as they left the building.  He reported he was able to see dead bodies lying all over the floor as he was being carried out – before building 7 had collapsed.  Was this due to Freon asphyxiation put through ventilation system like in a recent Russian submarine disaster?

https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/02/scientistdirected-energy-weapons-turned-world-trade-center-into-nanoparticles-on-911-.html

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  Regarding the Physics, I'd refer all to our August 2016 publication in EuroPhysics News:
https://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/abs/2016/04/epn2016474p21/epn2016474p21.html

Note that there are over 850,000 reads/downloads of our paper!  This paper is by far the most read paper in this important journal.

Click on "PDF" to download our full paper, including discussion of the use of thermite/superthermite in the World Trade Center destruction (and subsequent dust).  Recall that WTC 7 was NOT hit by any airplane, yet it fell completely to the ground that afternoon on 9/11/2001. 

  One quick video (less than 2 minutes):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laBV8Pq-RMc 
   
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  Regarding the Physics, I'd refer all to our August 2016 publication in EuroPhysics News:
https://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/abs/2016/04/epn2016474p21/epn2016474p21.html

Note that there are over 850,000 reads/downloads of our paper!  This paper is by far the most read paper in this important journal.

Click on "PDF" to download our full paper, including discussion of the use of thermite/superthermite in the World Trade Center destruction (and subsequent dust).  Recall that WTC 7 was NOT hit by any airplane, yet it fell completely to the ground that afternoon on 9/11/2001. 

  One quick video (less than 2 minutes):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laBV8Pq-RMc

That is a well written article, however I think my previous post has a fuller hypothesis, with Directed Energy  Weapons.

https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/02/scientistdirected-energy-weapons-turned-world-trade-center-into-nanoparticles-on-911-.html

These weapons are still with us as can be seen in the Fort McMurray fire and the recent California "forest fires" where burnt homes are surrounded with still green shrubbery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQdEDRYu0

https://www.aircrap.org/2017/10/13/california-fires-dew-directed-energy-weapons/

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Ronee:  "That is a well written article,"
Thank you.

" however I think my previous post has a fuller hypothesis, with Directed Energy  Weapons."

The video I cited shows the rapid fall of WTC building 7, including the fact that the roof remained intact along with the higher floors as the building accelerated and fell -- clearly no "Directed Energy  Weapons" destroyed the building from high above -right?
 Please explain specifically how "Directed Energy  Weapons" could account for this observed behavior in the fall of WTC7.
   
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Ronee:  "That is a well written article,"
Thank you.

" however I think my previous post has a fuller hypothesis, with Directed Energy  Weapons."

The video I cited shows the rapid fall of WTC building 7, including the fact that the roof remained intact along with the higher floors as the building accelerated and fell -- clearly no "Directed Energy  Weapons" destroyed the building from high above -right?
 Please explain specifically how "Directed Energy  Weapons" could account for this observed behavior in the fall of WTC7.

Clearly we are on a different focus here. I was speaking almost entirely on the twin towers and ignoring the demolition of building seven, but:

“Lathering Up” Incriminating - “WTC Building 7 ‘lathered up’ even before WTC Building 2 went down. WTC Building 7 not damaged at all by WTC Building 2 going down – right next to each other.”

The collapse heap of the towers at one story when it should have been 30 stories. the 1400 burned cars.yet masses of unburned paper,  the tons of dirt they had ready and were bringing in. The top of the tower starting to tilt over yet turned to dust and falling straight down. The "spires" turning to dust, etc

So I take a broader focus and suggest that there were no planes. that preplanted explosives and additional explosives were used but that also one should not ignore the use of directed energy weapons were a big part of the twin towers destruction and there continued use to the present day.

Actually 9/11 can be laid to rest as a Saturn worshippers grand sacrifice.

Saturn, Saturday, the X, (X Box) the Black cube of Mecca and hundreds of stylized symbols of the Corporations are signs that Saturn still holds sway over mankind.

https://tinyurl.com/y7rgex7q

The UN prayer/meditation room:

https://tinyurl.com/ybx33nts

The smoking gun in this case is what “they” have built at ground zero

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2200892/How-9-11-memorial-cost-700million-build-needs-1million-week-run.html

The stylized black cube with an X through it. Not like it is “in your face” is it?

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Ronee:  "That is a well written article,"
Thank you.

" however I think my previous post has a fuller hypothesis, with Directed Energy  Weapons."

The video I cited shows the rapid fall of WTC building 7, including the fact that the roof remained intact along with the higher floors as the building accelerated and fell -- clearly no "Directed Energy  Weapons" destroyed the building from high above -right?
 Please explain specifically how "Directed Energy  Weapons" could account for this observed behavior in the fall of WTC7.

I have no problem with Building 7 being a controlled demolition, after all that was most likely the control center for the operation in the Emergency Control Bunker and they would not be wanting to bring down DEW on their own heads.

However the towers were a different animal. Originally built as the Rockefeller Center for such an "event" it was realized that a name change would be best in order. The Twin Towers were packed with C4 when built, supposedly for insurance purposes. But the time table had slipped so drastically there was some concern about the shelf life of the C 4. Hence the upgrading with additional explosives and Thermite. The core was the main worry with  13 foot thickconcrete walls and 3 inch diameter rebar. So in all probability that was the location of a mini nuke.

I hope this clarifies my position as regards your PDF, it is excellent.

The key to understanding the use of DEW on 9/11 is the hundreds of truck loads of dirt. In the link I posted the guy thinks they are coming to take stuff away but in fact the empty trucks filmed are leaving after dumping the dirt... to cut down on the DEW fuming.

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The usual suspects, Bush Chenney, Mossad, CIA, FBI, NSA a good explanation is Molecular dissociation weapons, Beam weapons...

3.  Molecular Dissociation: “The collapse of the WTC buildings produced the highest mass per volume of very fine particles (nanoparticles) ever measured in an air sample in the United States.  It takes a tremendous amount of energy to dissociate or break the molecular bonds of steel, concrete and other building materials that were “powdered” into very fine particles during the collapse of the buildings. The largest mass per volume of metals ever measured in an air sample in the US were reported by Dr. Thomas Cahill who did air monitoring for 5 months. Metal is used in buildings because it is very strong – and would require large amounts of energy to reduce it to nanoparticles. Chemical explosives do not release enough energy to produce that volume of very fine particles.  A much more energetic process was involved such as laser or beam energy which releases focused and concentrated energy as complex waveforms necessary to cause molecular dissociation.”

4.  Physical Evidence of Buildings Collapsing: “In videos of the collapses on 9/11 the WTC buildings erupted into emulsion like a drinking fountain, and the rubble did not hit the ground.  Even on tape huge pieces of aluminum building siding vaporized as they were freefalling, and never hit the ground.”

5.  Controlled Demolition: “The [collapse of the WTC buildings] was not a 'controlled demolition' for the following reasons:

WTC Detritus Pile -  “Should have been 1/3 the height of the WTC buildings.  The 100+ story WTC buildings were about 1 story high when the collapse of the buildings ended. A fireman on one of the news videos said the antenna that had been on the top of WTC Building 1 was on the top of a pile of rubble about one story high. The rubble pile should have been 35 stories if it was a conventional controlled demolition.”

WTC Rubble Never Hit the Ground – “This defies gravity, where did the rubble go?”

Footprints – “Geometrically Round Holes: contiguous round holes 24’ in diameter were in the footprints of the WTC buildings 1 and 2, and a 60’ deep geometrically round hole was in the middle of Liberty Street near the WTC. This is evidence of beam weapons. There was no debris inside the footprints of the two WTC buildings, only bare dirt with circles in the dirt.”

Dust -  “In videos of the collapse larger particles fell and cascaded down from the buildings under the forces of gravity, but before they hit the ground they vaporized and suddenly went up into the atmosphere like an antigravity demonstration.  Nanoparticles are so tiny that they are not subject to the forces of gravity, so molecular dissociation occurred on the larger particles as they were freefalling, reducing them into nano-particles (0.1 microns in diameter and smaller) that suddenly obeyed other physical laws of quantum mechanics.  More evidence of [directed energy weapon or] HAARP/beam weapon technology applied during collapse.”

9/11 Satellite photos - “[9/11 satellite photographs showed] dust going into upper atmosphere –which had to be nanoparticles and may have been enhanced by other technology because most very fine particles/dust would stay in the Troposphere and be rained out in 2 months as we know from depleted uranium particulate releases from battlefield already.”

1400 Toasted Cars - “Located blocks from the WTC buildings, with door handles missing, engine blocks missing, blistering on some parts of the car finish, strange rust patterns on the bodies of the cars.”

Paper Around Cars Not Burned - "Whatever ‘vaporized’ the engine blocks and the door handles on 1400 cars did not ignite fragile and flammable paper lying all over the ground around the cars. If engine blocks and door handles selectively vaporized, why didn’t body of car vaporize?”

Pile of Cars Spontaneously Combusted - “In a news video, the entire pile of cars started burning spontaneously at the same time with no visible cause, it was not a fire that started in one car and spread to others.”

Rust Occurred Immediately - “On cars and trucks, and in FEMA photos there was heavy rust on steel beams – steel does not rust, and it is a slow oxidation process that results in rusting of iron.  This rusting happened immediately.”

Basements Of WTC Buildings Undamaged - “Stuffed mannequins in the basement of WTC with clothing on were carried out of the basement undamaged.  If a 100+-story WTC building collapsed into its basement and left a 35-story rubble pile, there would be nothing left in the basement. Even streetcars underground at the WTC were pulled out after the collapse and had no damage.”

Prof. Cahill Air Monitoring Samples - “The hardest and most durable materials vaporized (steel, concrete etc), and the most fragile materials (paper) cascading out of WTC windows and all over the ground for blocks were undamaged.”

Truckloads of Potting Soil - “Right after the WTC disaster, the ground was “fuming”, and sequential FEMA aerial photos show 130 dump trucks full of soil (filled almost to the top of the dump truck space) covered with tarps so that the dirt in the trucks was not visible to onlookers on the street, coming into the WTC area, dumping the soil and going out for more. This happened even before the rescues or cleanup started and it continued for some time. The piles of soil were left for a week and got higher each day in sequential photos. The soil ‘fuming’ lasted until March 2002 (8 months).”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBW4JjBZJMw

Boots Disintegrated – “Boots on emergency responders disintegrated after 2 hours.  They had to get new boots every 2 hours – an effect of molecular dissociation.  It was not from burning, their skin would have been damaged.”

No Ground Fuming During Rain - “For 99 days the “burning” (fuming) continued at the WTC site, but when it rained there was no fuming. If it had been fires burning, the rain would have caused steam from heating rainwater.”

USGS: Iron versus Steel -  “The USGS analyzed the mineral form of the rust on steel beams and iron objects at the WTC. They did not address the ‘steel does not rust’ issue, but dodged it by referring to the rusted steel beams in the rubble pile as ‘iron beams’ and gave mineral analyses of iron minerals produced by oxidation.”

Official Sample Data Not Reliable – “Spectral absorption images at the WTC indicated average particle size was about 1 micron, which is subjected to gravity and would have fallen with the collapsed buildings. USGS did not collect many dust samples and collecting samples by other different agencies did not agree with each other. No samples were taken at the toasted cars.”

Directed Energy Weapon Evidence - “Evidence of use of a directed energy weapon was present at the top of the WTC buildings as ‘lathering up’ started before buildings started coming down. ‘Lathering up’ in videos preceded the collapse of all buildings, even Building 7 which supposedly Larry Silverstein when he said, 'Pull it' to firefighters meant controlled demolition. Color alteration and modification in news videos compared to other photos/videos at tops of buildings indicates “doctoring” of images.  When the Seattle Dome was destroyed with controlled demolition, the dust created by the destruction did not get any higher than the top of the building. The WTC dust got into the upper atmosphere almost immediately – which indicates very tiny atmospheric dust sized particles (0.1 micron and smaller), in fact smaller than atmospheric dust that stays mainly in the Troposphere.

“Lathering Up” Incriminating - “WTC Building 7 ‘lathered up’ even before WTC Building 2 went down. WTC Building 7 not damaged at all by WTC Building 2 going down – right next to each other.”

Freon tanks -  “Very odd, large tanks were removed from WTC building and OSHA made bogus statement about what and why they were removed. Was freon used in WTC takedown? A NYC cop whom the researcher met with Cindy Sheehan said he was injured in WTC Building 7 and removed on a gurney, but his eyes were covered so he could not see anything as they left the building.  He reported he was able to see dead bodies lying all over the floor as he was being carried out – before building 7 had collapsed.  Was this due to Freon asphyxiation put through ventilation system like in a recent Russian submarine disaster?

https://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2012/02/scientistdirected-energy-weapons-turned-world-trade-center-into-nanoparticles-on-911-.html

Ron

While the DEW's idea/theory sounds plausible ,i have to ask-->do you really think that they have such powerful and advanced weapons ?. Remember,we live in a world where science cannot even cure the common cold  C.C

Is there any examples of such energy weapons being able to disassociate the molecules of materials,such as concrete and steel--other than John Hutchensons  :D
I mean,we can disassociate water on our bench,but that is very different to turning 1000's of tons of steel and concrete into molten steel and dust.


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Note that there are over 850,000 reads/downloads of our paper!  This paper is by far the most read paper in this important journal.

Click on "PDF" to download our full paper, including discussion of the use of thermite/superthermite in the World Trade Center destruction (and subsequent dust).  Recall that WTC 7 was NOT hit by any airplane, yet it fell completely to the ground that afternoon on 9/11/2001. 

  One quick video (less than 2 minutes):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laBV8Pq-RMc

Thanks Steve.

I would like to ask you this--

In the video's and pictures that show where the planes hit,we see that !!apparently!! the planes aluminum wings and body can cut through those very large box beams the WTT were constructed with.

But,in this video,we see a steel loaded truck (with large cast iron engine still installed),being stopped dead,and torn to pieces by a hollow bollard that is only 350mm in diameter-->and braced at only one end.
The bollard is not even bent a little after the impact,as it is once again retracted into it's below ground carrier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAkCypsQIQk

Most i have argued this point with (the aluminum could not have cut through those large box beams),there reply is always-->the plane was going some 500MPH,and that is how the aluminum cut through the steel.
I tell them that that is no different to the plane being motionless,and the large steel box beam traveling at 500MPH hitting the plane.

So i have to ask--how dose a hollow aluminum wing cut through large box beams of steel ?

Also some pics of the damage done to planes after being hit by just birds.


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While the DEW's idea/theory sounds plausible ,i have to ask-->do you really think that they have such powerful and advanced weapons ?. Remember,we live in a world where science cannot even cure the common cold  C.C

Is there any examples of such energy weapons being able to disassociate the molecules of materials,such as concrete and steel--other than John Hutchensons  :D
I mean,we can disassociate water on our bench,but that is very different to turning 1000's of tons of steel and concrete into molten steel and dust.

Brad

Brad,

It is really an outgrowth of Harp, to control the weather,  (Oz, California)  earthquakes (Haiti, China) and forest fires (Oz, California and Canada)

Best proof is 9/11, just look at the picture...do you see a pancake collapse or molecular disassociation?

https://tinyurl.com/yb299v9q

Minneapolis Bridge Collapse (August 1, 2007) – The researcher states, “Similarities to WTC disaster, every bridge segment [in the August 1, 2007 Minneapolis bridge collapse] failed at exactly the same time

The first 40 seconds of this vid (below just the car)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8V09WbBmdw

In California first several years of drought, then a flood, then more drought and then the "forest fires"

When you see a hundred cars all burst into flame at the same time  (9/11) or a series of forest fires all start at the same time then one needs to ask WTF?

But the Twin Tower site is the best example yet,

"Rust Occurred Immediately - “On cars and trucks, and in FEMA photos there was heavy rust on steel beams – steel does not rust, and it is a slow oxidation process that results in rusting of iron.  This rusting happened immediately.”

The soil ‘fuming’ lasted until March 2002 (8 months).”

And apparently they could not build with steel on the twin towers site as iron and steel would still rust up right away, so they built to one side and put "swimming pools" where the towers stood.

Ron



   

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I've wondered, as have many others, what happened
to the real aircraft and the real crews and passengers.

This interview answers those questions as well as some
other questions about the towers and how they were
wired for destruction.


A grisly chain of events.

This channel has an 12 part series on 9/11.  I'm starting with
the most recent part and working backwards through the
series.  A lot of other very interesting stuff there too.
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