Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion

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Chet K

Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « on: 2012-10-17, 17:29:24 »

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Taken from here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12432-tesla-science-center-wardenclyffe-deal-struck.html
As pointed out in the thread Mr.D's participation would be contingent on certain things.

I can move this forward or leave Mr D alone. [at least for my part]
Anyone have any thoughts?

It would take a fairly big commitment on my part to see this through,and honestly I am a bit overwhelmed with things I have on my plate and Life's other little surprises ATM.

However the possibility of this happening gives me pause..............
All who can read this here are welcome and encouraged to give input.

Any comments would be appreciated ,[plus or minus]
this is your planet Too........
No info will leave this board no comment repeated,

thanks

Chet

mbrownn

Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #1 on: 2012-10-17, 23:08:31 »

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I understand, I think people can easily pressurize others whilst doing little themselves. As I said on the thread before an introduction is the best anyone can ask for, others could email their support directly to the owners but it is E.D. that has to talk to them and sell himself.

I cannot get on the site at the moment to read the latest posts so I will go to another internet cafe to see if i can get access there.

Slider2732

Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #2 on: 2012-10-18, 00:04:28 »

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Bane and burden or bonus and brilliance, that would seem to be the essence of Mr. D's possible involvement.
I can think of no better candidate for a role of caretaker and custodian of the future Wardenclyffe, if Tesla's real full dream were realised. But, and that's the word we have to be wary of, Eric seems jaded, devoid of direction and has been that way for some years.
I mentioned him and got this started on the EF thread, because of the strong upward life change that it would bring for Eric. In a free world, he would be lecturing on a circuit of the Ivy League schools. Instead, he has often lived out of his car and has had vandalism of energy work to contend with.
Lindermann, Brown, Dollard in their heyday of the late 80's would have been complete naturals for inclusion...times have changed and events in Eric's life have left his world view skewed.
Yes, he has to sell himself, not be lofted above the shoulders of tinkerers who simply think him to be the closest replicator of Tesla alive.
I don't want Wardenclyffe to end up like some kind of 'could have been' museum. A museum is for things that have been before and were supplanted by fresh new more effective solutions.
Teslas work is for the future, our current methods will end up in museums !

He is right for the job, if indeed Jane and the crew are in step with the vision.
The question is, is the Eric of 2012 the same Eric we saw in his recorded lectures and Borderland Sciences videos ?
We won't find an ideal summary...how good would it be to see a 10 minute sit down video of Eric expressing his thoughts and future on YouTube. That would sort everything out, especially if the viewer gains the feeling that the guy really has it, has something to give, has a drive and ambition. Such a person has to have a flair for demonstration and a showman quality too.
As one minimum, a 6ft or so traditional Tesla tower has to sit within the foundations of the original tower and provide a spectacle for visitors. It would be realised in quick sharp time how silly it looks compared to the real thing...and that's how that ball gets rolling.

Within one lecture on YouTube, Eric was asked a question by an audience member to the effect of "How could Tesla be claiming propagation velocities faster than the speed of light ?" to which came the reply "because light speed is a constant, not a limit"

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Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #3 on: 2012-10-18, 00:16:58 »

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Quote from: Slider2732 on 2012-10-18, 00:04:28

Bane and burden or bonus and brilliance, that would seem to be the essence of Mr. D's possible involvement.
I can think of no better candidate for a role of caretaker and custodian of the future Wardenclyffe, if Tesla's real full dream were realised. But, and that's the word we have to be wary of, Eric seems jaded, devoid of direction and has been that way for some years.
I mentioned him and got this started on the EF thread, because of the strong upward life change that it would bring for Eric. In a free world, he would be lecturing on a circuit of the Ivy League schools. Instead, he has often lived out of his car and has had vandalism of energy work to contend with.
Lindermann, Brown, Dollard in their heyday of the late 80's would have been complete naturals for inclusion...times have changed and events in Eric's life have left his world view skewed.
Yes, he has to sell himself, not be lofted above the shoulders of tinkerers who simply think him to be the closest replicator of Tesla alive.
I don't want Wardenclyffe to end up like some kind of 'could have been' museum. A museum is for things that have been before and were supplanted by fresh new more effective solutions.
Teslas work is for the future, our current methods will end up in museums !

Agreed

I took the liberty of sending them an email, lets see if I get a response.

Chet K

Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #4 on: 2012-10-18, 00:44:22 »

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Hi fellahs,

Much better talking over here about the little nuances associated with this thought experiment.
My personal thought would be to approach the Big guys Tesla/White family. And get a feel for
how they will react to the "technology" aspect.

It will be relatively easy for me to speak with the White Boys [as I mentioned before] .
and get a feel for their reaction to this whole idea,if they get on board everyone else will fall in line.
This is how I have always approached business in the past ,from the top down !
The thing is making sure that Eric will help with or show up for the eventual demonstration.The Whites are one of the magor parties on the project and would be very good to get to know.

I am in the middle of a bit of a project ATM [swinging another motor into the wifes Car]
Just had to post a little......................
Be back later
Chet

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Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #5 on: 2012-10-18, 01:02:49 »

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Mr. William H. Terbo has the coolest of surnames for this project and, being the last close Tesla relative, has a potential say in proceedings.
Dusan Stojanovic could also be contacted, being a distant relative.
Joseph Sikorski needs to film the revitalising of the Wardenclyffe project too, as a fly on the wall documentary over the coming months.

Big names need to get involved, in my opinion. Ya know, I wonder if Dan Ackroyd has a Tesla tower at home....may be.
I'm going to research stars and their hobbies - try to gain a clue about those who have interests outside of mainstream. They needn't finance, but the higher the profile the higher the chances of funding.

Can you imagine the Kickstarter summary ? "A project to bring wireless electricity to the world. Project goal $33 million".

Yes, those White Boys are a key element in not creating a museum, instead a science center.

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Chet K

Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #6 on: 2012-10-18, 03:24:27 »

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Mark
Yes I believe that was the fellow from New Jersey that Jane mentioned,actually a truncated last name
[I left my notes at work on that.}
he is the last living Tesla relative to have actually met him,and He is involved in this project [he's 80 years old].

What do you know about the Techs we could show these people that would grab their attention ?

We need to sort out that part before I start "talking things up".

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Thx
I'll be on in the AM for a bit ,I'm swamped at home
Later
Chet

Chet K	Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #7 on: 2012-10-18, 04:06:15 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4753	Who's the "Olen Bales" that Eric wants Sued? Any info on this would be good Thx Chet

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Re: Wardenclyffe possibilities discussion « Reply #8 on: 2012-10-25, 19:37:02 »

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Sorry for the delayed reply..been doing what you referred to in the post before last lol

Olen Bales is a mystery man so far. I'm sure you know more now, but he took ownership of Eric's land and booted him off it. Then apparently proceeded to damage or remove Eric's equipment and belongings.

Here's a copy and paste of some info about my Simple Wireless Electricity system - which i'm still trying to post over at EF in 'logos' thread about my experiments. But, for some reason, the EF database has gone down. Are Israel watching my keystrokes ? lol, doubtful but interesting timing.

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Thank you logos for the thread and enthusiasm

The intention has been for the simplest system and easiest for people to build at home. An introduction method for wireless transmission with an AA or lower voltages.
The video above is the next step up, higher voltages and regulation of the input current by novel means.

The small telephone/modem wire and signal transistor system runs at about 1MHz, current draw 20mA. MongrelShark and mnsman1 have kindly replicated and shown scope results as well as other findings.
There are similarities to the Slayer Exciter and Lasersaber's SJR 3.0. Both are in my own background and a lot of folks here..so hopefully this system is of use as widely.

Water regulation is one new area for the Part II version in the video. It 'just works', intending to move from heating resistors and bring in more natural methods of Base trigger control. The Earth itself as a Base trigger is intended for experimentations today, if it quits raining and will open up possibilities of better load feedback. The aim there is to emulate longitudinal signalling, although not yet tuned to produce the push-pull driving method.
The electrolysis and seeming copper sulphate production are side effects needing more exploration. Dropping LED's into the water and them lighting is a fun aside.

Current can be limited more conventionally with an incandescent bulb, as used in the ###### SSG or TV degauss coils (once had a degauss coil heat til the plastic insulation melted lol, was cold with a house bulb in series).

The 1 wire system is something I like a lot, noticing little loss (none visually noted but not lumen tested) to 60ft so far.
A pancake coil connected to the end of the 1 wire can act as an amplifier and repeater stage, yet still allow the powering of mains loads (nightlight in the video), while also working as an extended 'range' wireless source.

Yes, as Ramset linked, all is part of the hoped for demo to the new Wardenclyffe owners - of real, practical, easy to understand Tesla systems. Things we can build with what we have at home.
From theory, to practice, to useful 21st century applications as part of the science center.

Here is the latest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaXRKLIrc8c

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