James Hardy Water Wheel Experiment.

Started by Tommey Reed, 2014.06.27, 01:43:09

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Tommey Reed

Hi All,

Am getting ready to duplicate this James Hardy water wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhwQt1tJYa8

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Flow Rate @ 25' - 1860 GPH
Max. Head - 30'
Watts - 1065
Outlet Size - 3"

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I will need more information on the paddle wheel and what size of tips he was using?
I know the 1:4.5 ratio from pulley to generator was 18" and 4".
I also know at 25'/*.434 =10.85psi will create a thrust of (1.57*psi *d*d) or if it was 1" tip the total thrust will be (1.57*10.85psi *1"*1")=17.03 lb of thrust. Basis on water rocket thrust formula, it's the right formula!

(18"/12)/2=.75' constant pulley load or 17.03*.75=12.78ft/lb

The total FPS of thrust is SQR(32+32*(10.85psi/0.434))=40fps
My question is how big was the paddle wheel?
If it was 18" then pi*18=56.55 or 4.71ft
This means total rpm without any load would be (40*60)/4.7=510.64rpm's and with the 1:4.5 ratio the generator speed is 510.64*4.5=2297.87 rpm's.
But the torque is now down to 12.85/4.5=2.85lb generator pulley load.
Even with max output at 100% you get (2297.87*2.85ft/lb)/5252=1.24hp or 930.2 watts of power.


Input is needed ASP.
Tom...


Tommey Reed


Tommey Reed

Ok, got a simple water wheel going, now I need to improve on output of mechanical work...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2s4EhqNNFA

Enjoy the show. :o

Tom

Matt Watts

Summer time fun for the kids!   :)

Curious to see what kind of torque you can get with more and larger cups on that wheel.  May also want to consider a larger wheel--balance between speed and torque.

Tommey Reed

Hello All,

The problem with the James Hardy water wheel is power to the water wheel and flow.

I will have to get a bigger flywheel with paddles and see if I can get enough torque to do work.

I like to add my water project to this experiment also.

This is a water design I call the Submersible Displacement Engine using waves to generate compress air that gets feed down to the displacement tubes.

As air is trap, it cause the displacement to rise to the surface.

This is a simple test using this design as a efficient water wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knsbj4hjx-g

Tom.