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Author Topic: The Uwe Jarck Device  (Read 1388 times)
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No worries

Will ask Peter how to make this fair to the theme of his forum
I already know how Poynt feels, he also invested huge efforts here to start the forum
And help keep it going !

Peter does after all pay the expenses
And I really doubt these “off theme “ topics are what he wants at the top of the page every day!

I have nothing but gratitude for those who try to stick to the theme here
And their efforts and attempts to engage help from what use to be a fairly engaged
Community!

The forum has really gone “blog”

However there are plenty of experiments to ponder and some are in route

It’s just inviting people to research forum?

And they read constantly bumped blog posts here??
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I always like Grumpy’s perspective
And ideas !!

Towards research!!
It’s what 99% are hoping to read here !










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I went over the patent and I don't see that it has to be vertical.  also, he says it can be used in vehicles.

Furthermore, the 200kw device size is very small , bu this is based on his power ratios.
   

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Grumpy,

You've been very tolerant regarding the change of direction in your Topic which is greatly
appreciated.  If you would desire, however, this discussion could be moved to the
Rant Room or elsewhere.

I'm hoping to ascend before we destroy the climate and get knocked back to the stone age.

I'm holding off on some gravity work to try this device.
   

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Reading over the text on this device and it is simple.

I'll find some styrofoam for a funnel core, but a cone should work even if not as well as the "goblet".

Maybe he used a goblet because it was the Holy Grail!

Proof of concept just needs the "A" coils and the output "C" coils.
   
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This config is a bit like the Markovich device but more clear .

I have not found why the bell profile instead of a linear cone .

Many of us are tired of building things that are not specific and building things that are but  do not comply with the experience of others.

Many of us have achieved condition where no current seems to be used only to be distracted by why and further confused as to why others cant get the result .

I sometime wonder whether the david pomerau effect is playing apart .

The only thing  to do is to build what you see as worth building then post the details and hope that somebody else can replicate .


Until that happens the device is useless unless available to all and if you need to be present to start it up then its use would have to include you.


This is what we must be prepared to discover as it fits with my experience and others here .

The early devices like hendershot had this property and as un scientific as it is it may turn out that there is another realm of energies that include the human condition.

Now i sound crazy but its the only thing that fits my experience and others regarding electricity from nowhere.

politics , as useless as it is, can be less confusing than ghost in the machine .

How would one even  approach such a subject without being subjective ...see the contradictions .

Any way the common things are most often at least 2 inductances magnets and having them beat against each other .

Religious rants will not help here and I apolagise for distraction but we are headed here as always.

Please throw one together and others will duplicate if you can show it made  with readily available components .

Its no good to ask people to share in your curiosity as we all looking ,some are just tired of building and getting results we dont understand some positive .

Its disturbing to have current from nowhere that you cant just switch on but must tune to .
The next day you need the tuning process again but no body can get the same result ....that is a little scary !

Many here have had this happen but  dont want the flack because they are part of the machine.

Perhaps we need a MEE 2 movement  for silly current experience ?

At least that has been my observation over the years .

At least this one could be made to look attractive .

some glass floodlights and other globes have the bell shape if the small size is ok .



   
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I'll find some styrofoam for a funnel core, but a cone should work even if not as well as the "goblet".


A sheet metal worker, who works on car repairs, could make a cone very easily and a panel beater could make it the right shape surprisingly quickly. They are astonishing people. (How to pay for it? Go through their premises and offer to change all their non LED lights for LED ones. Then tell them how much they will save over a year).
   
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Reading over the text on this device and it is simple.
I'll find some styrofoam for a funnel core, but a cone should work even if not as well as the "goblet".
Maybe he used a goblet because it was the Holy Grail!
Proof of concept just needs the "A" coils and the output "C" coils.

In my rocketry/RC airplane days I would cut or hotwire a styrofoam shape, cover it in saran wrap then fiberglass over it.  The saran wrap was basically a cheap way to release the fiberglass form from the mold.

If your really stuck I have also used thin cotton fabric like a pillow case and lacquer or epoxy... quick and dirty, lol.

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Uncanny thing is that I don't believe I missed this device in my patent searches.
It may have been re-introduced...
   

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My aussie brain read the title as "Huge arc" device.  ;D Reminiscent of Schauberger's work too. Mmm a bell you say.
   
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For someone with over 70 years of scientific (and in particular magnetic) knowledge much of what is written in that patent is gobbledydook, utter nonsense.  But I can't believe that someone would go to the trouble of taking out a patent without some evidence that the system actually works, and it is just his own (incorrect) belief that is written there.  Having given some thought to the system I would like someone to carry out a fairly simple experiment.  In the image below I show the field from a magnet.  At each end of the magnet are placed a coil, a bundle of wires, and the conductors are in a region where the magnetic field is radial.  The coils are mounted in such a way that they can vibrate back and forth, like the voice coil in a loudspeaker.  The mounting arrangement has both coils joined together so that they vibrate in unison.  It will be appreciated that vibration movement of the conductors is everywhere at right angles to the radial field lines, and that movement can be produced by passing current through them, or alternatively if a coil is mechanically moved by applying force it will induce a voltage.  One coil will be used as a generator and the other coil as a motor.  The two coils are connected together in series to create a closed circuit.  One coil has more turns than the other, this is the generator coil, and it creates greater voltage to exceed the back emf of the other coil and drive current through it.  It seems that if you give the coil assembly a small nudge it will drive itself to the limits of the travel, certainly the math suggests this would happen.  If the mountings are like spiral springs then energy is imparted to the springs and they will start the travel in the opposite direction.  (Maybe the flat spiral coil referred to in the patent is not a coil, but a spring!).  Does this scheme become a perpetual vibrator?  I would very much like to see if this is true.

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Having given more thought I don't think the above experiment will show anything useful.  But I do have more to say along another tack when I have written it up.

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This patent is starting to make sense to me.
I believe the basic idea is the same as Tesla Radiant Energy patents where he used a metal plate to collect a charge and stored it in a capacitor.
There may be a connection with the rotation of charged particles in a magnetic field; positive is CW, negative is CCW
The coil windings are:
Cone CW looking from large opening
pancake coil is CW looking down
collector coils CW as seen from south pole

South pole of the magnet is facing up
so everything is wound CW looking down, in agreement with electron rotation in a magnetic field

I have no idea why he used CW and South pole upward, rather than CCW and North Pole upward.  Perhaps both will work or neither.

Ratios may be important, and he shows a large magnet in the patent.




   
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Here is my latest contribution for consideration.

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Just a note
I usually ask permission prior to
Posting Grumpy’s topics elsewhere ( or anyone’s)

I could not resist this area here ...

https://overunity.com/18693/grumpys-query-into-the-uwe-jarck-device/msg552833/#new

Especially since Cyril made such a wonderful and thoughtful effort !

Much gratitude

And yes as always I will remove if ??


With gratitude
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Here is my latest contribution for consideration.

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May I ask why you have used toroid rather than a solenoid coil?

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May I ask why you have used toroid rather than a solenoid coil?

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Because it is wound on a ring core, and that makes it toroidal.  You can't wind  a solenoidal coil on a ring core, the geometry doesn't allow it.

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Here is my latest contribution for consideration.

Smudge

I believe you are looking at this device from the perspective of conventional electrodynamics, and I believe this may be incorrect.

Thanks for the mapping of the magnetic field of the pointed magnet.  This is very helpful.

I don't expect coils with a ferromagnetic core to work in this device, or any ferromagnetic material in the working area aside from the central magnet.

Imaging that the zero point energy, aether, space... is caused to rotate around magnetic field lines, and can condensed.
The shaped magnetic field changes in concentration as Smudge shows, getting denser at the magnet.
Keep in mind that the collector coils will also generate a magnetic field
Thus it flows along the funnel coils once started by the one funnel coil.
The pancake coil spreads out this slower, condensed, rotating field, which is now rotating through the collector coils.  No longer a vortex, but more of a rotating cylinder.

Collector coils have to be around the magnet, so a large magnet is beneficial in this respect.

According the what Uwe says in his patent, this device's output is largely what is termed "cold current".  There is a mountain of hearsay about what that is, but the important part is that it produces the results of a much larger electron-based current than is actually flowing in the conductor.  I posted Peter Lindeman's "Secrets of Cold Current" somewhere on this sight.

With these thoughts in mind, I have some Styrofoam cones, and the wire.  I just need some time to put it together.

Still need to get a large rod magnet, but might try a proof of concept with a smaller magnet.
   

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The large rod magnet has proven to be expensive at about $80.

Not wanting to spend that much on a magnet, I believe a coil with the proper shape and polarity will also prove suitable.
   
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