Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[MileHigh]

Here is the clip for the new Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor:

The first question that comes to my mind is what does this device actually do?

You see it running off a bank of three car batteries and apparently charging another bank of three car batteries.  So what, that means nothing unless somebody can provide specifications that describe what it actually does.

Right now as far as I am concerned it's a device that drains one bank of batteries and charges another bank of batteries for a net loss in energy at the end of the day.  It's a fancy and expensive prop for wowing people at seminars.

MileHigh

[Hoppy]

MH wrote:-

"The first question that comes to my mind is what does this device actually do?"

A very valid question! I have read almost every report on the conference and can find no explanation as to the wheel's purpose, other than it would appear to be an extremely expensive battery charger. Perhaps Jeff could shed some light on this as he attended the conference and appears to have JB's ear. If it really can run OU and its capable of powerering a domestic home, then surely a convincing demo would have been to run a few hundred watts of lighting and a say a fridge continuously over the course of the conference and let the attendees measure the voltage of the two battery banks whenever they wished.  Coke and Pepsi 'on the house' could then have been stored in the fridge and JB could have claimed that the drinks are being kept cool by free energy! Alternatively if the mechanical was the major 'free' component, then he could have fitted a couple of chairs and charged for rides, whilst others monitored the voltage fluctuation of the batteries. Either way, this would have been a lot more helpful than just staring up in amazement at the wheel.

Hoppy

[BEP]

I like the attached chair and free ride idea.

I wonder if there was a restriction on the use of meters and forbidden use of Ohm's law. Probably not.

Most Bedini groupings don't need such restrictions. They wouldn't know what the restrictions meant.

[poynt99]

Yes, the chair idea would have been most amusing, since there seems to be only a few inches of clearance to the ceiling  

I am amazed at how much time, effort and money went into that wheel and the conference in general  ...truly bewildering 

[BEP]

Somehow, I don't think that would have become a problem 

[giantkiller]

Muller did the best demos back in '96. In the back yard with a barbeque.

The large number of large batterries could keep this running for days. I want to see weeks or months with no decline.
The little bench top models that are built have a lower mass to storage. These can run a long, long time. This big heavy unit has to hauled around which constitutes a short up time at any location. This unit has a large mass to storage ratio.

So the bottom line math is desktop top unit running for years. Large unit running for hours/days. This could be tapped off of. But I agree the loop could be 30 - 70 %. It has been alot of years and it has only come to 'Dog and pony' shows? Surely someone in the audience will change things or prove this out.

Caveat: If this is an improper perception let me know.

[MileHigh]

Here is a sampling of the recent chatter about the Ferris Wheel:

from the pictures, JB setup is different from Ed, much less magnets.

I supopose the EMF field are set @ 22.5 degrees each, the collection field is 45 degree arc but I guess it is best to collect inversed energy from the helix below. Did someone take time exposure Kirlian photo of John's Machine?

Ed is vertical and John is horizontal allignment.

JB is lower frequency, different confiqurations is possible as long as it conforms to Phi?,

what frequency do you need to nullify gravity?

did john purposely optimize his wheel as a Schumann Resonance negative ion generator by tuning it to earth frequency?.

if it is OU that we want, or Anti gravity, what are these frequencies?.

Is anyone building?.

16 rays. from the 2 squares forming star of david from top view. A star tetrahedron is a three dimensional Star of David

Are we dealing with 3 dimension or 4 dimension?. A four-dimensional dipyramid based on the three-dimensional square dipyramid with its two apices in opposite directions along the fourth dimension. It has 16 cell.

My brain is hurting!

[BEP]

Here is a sampling of the recent chatter about the Ferris Wheel:

My brain is hurting!

WOW!

It sounds like they all need ten times the medication I am on -or- they need to go back to the 4th dimension.

I didn't think internet access was available in those types of institutions 

However, I am curious. What IS the frequency for nullifying gravity?

[ion]

MH wrote:-

"The first question that comes to my mind is what does this device actually do?"

It does exactly what it is designed to do, it generates free energy in the form of "currency" for JB.

It's a prop in an "amusement park" or circus, take your pick. Have you seen the bearded lady or the hermaphrodite?

[MileHigh]

Ion:

I think that you took a really great swing with the rubber mallet.  You connected well and the rubber cylinder went flying up the wire, way up, all the way to the top.......Ding!!   You rang the bell!!  lol

MileHigh

[giantkiller]

Trapped in the nth dimension and I am freakin' out, man!
Somebody help me get this out of my head! Get it off me!

Are there any real engineers posting anything of value? We will probably never know until a product comes out. Or watch the obituaries...

Here is a sampling of the recent chatter about the Ferris Wheel:


Quote
from the pictures, JB setup is different from Ed, much less magnets.

I supopose the EMF field are set @ 22.5 degrees each, the collection field is 45 degree arc but I guess it is best to collect inversed energy from the helix below. Did someone take time exposure Kirlian photo of John's Machine?

Ed is vertical and John is horizontal allignment.

JB is lower frequency, different confiqurations is possible as long as it conforms to Phi?,

what frequency do you need to nullify gravity?


Quote
did john purposely optimize his wheel as a Schumann Resonance negative ion generator by tuning it to earth frequency?.

if it is OU that we want, or Anti gravity, what are these frequencies?.

Is anyone building?.

16 rays. from the 2 squares forming star of david from top view. A star tetrahedron is a three dimensional Star of David

Are we dealing with 3 dimension or 4 dimension?. A four-dimensional dipyramid based on the three-dimensional square dipyramid with its two apices in opposite directions along the fourth dimension. It has 16 cell.

My brain is hurting!

[ion]

Ion:

I think that you took a really great swing with the rubber mallet.  You connected well and the rubber cylinder went flying up the wire, way up, all the way to the top.......Ding!!   You rang the bell!!  lol

MileHigh

It's all in the swing.....by the way where's my Teddy Bear..LOL

[wattsup]

No this is beginning to be not overunity research but continuous overunity mocking. I am getting the feeling that anyone doing any work in OU is not welcome here. You only see what you want to see and not past it. Not good at all.

No one mentions anything about the size of the device, the potential in momentum, the great power of leverage, the power of efficient pulsing of a coil and returning the flyback, plus that central generator section, all these make for something that "could" be actually be very interesting. Instead we have the "@Milehigh Laugh-In Hour".

Ya ya, I know the regular statements, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE?

Anyways, enjoy the laugh while it lasts.

@poynt99

I am leaving this forum simply because this is not an OU forum. It is an anti OU forum, disguised as an OU forum. You can catch be at OU.com.

Bye.

[poynt99]

No this is beginning to be not overunity research but continuous overunity mocking. I am getting the feeling that anyone doing any work in OU is not welcome here. You only see what you want to see and not past it. Not good at all.

No one mentions anything about the size of the device, the potential in momentum, the great power of leverage, the power of efficient pulsing of a coil and returning the flyback, plus that central generator section, all these make for something that "could" be actually be very interesting. Instead we have the "@Milehigh Laugh-In Hour".

Ya ya, I know the regular statements, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE?

Anyways, enjoy the laugh while it lasts.

@poynt99

I am leaving this forum simply because this is not an OU forum. It is an anti OU forum, disguised as an OU forum. You can catch be at OU.com.

Bye.

I'm disappointed that you see things that way wattsup, but I understand why.

Cheers,
We'll be in touch.

.99

[ion]

I am leaving this forum simply because this is not an OU forum. It is an anti OU forum, disguised as an OU forum. You can catch be at OU.com.

Bye.

I enjoy the rigorous scrutiny of bold claims, and like to think that one of the responsible roles of forum members is to act as a clearing house for bad science.

You can be sure we won't throw the baby out with the bathwater should such a device appears that can stand the rigors of scientific test methods.

Until then, if something strikes me funny I intend to have a good laugh

This is a free and open forum, no mind police here. If anyone has a problem with that, they can block seeing my posts.

[MileHigh]

Wattsup:

You can't forget that the real issue about this wheel is, "What does it do?"

If there were any specifications put out for it they could have been discussed.  But there were none, and that's not a surprise.  It's actually very frustrating..

In all seriousness, it's not unreasonable to make the assumption that when you cut through all of the discussions about this device, this wheel is really nothing more than a prop.

This forum is here for the expression of all views, and that's a challenge for you and it could ultimately be beneficial for you.  In other words, there is a silver lining around here, you should try to see it.

MileHigh

[ion]

Wattsup:

You can't forget that the real issue about this wheel is, "What does it do?"

If there were any specifications put out for it they could have been discussed.  But there were none, and that's not a surprise.  It's actually very frustrating..

In all seriousness, it's not unreasonable to make the assumption that when you cut through all of the discussions about this device, this wheel is really nothing more than a prop.

This forum is here for the expression of all views, and that's a challenge for you and it could ultimately be beneficial for you.  In other words, there is a silver lining around here, you should try to see it.

MileHigh

I have an electric tractor made by GE that uses three 12 Volt batteries that are much smaller than the ones powering the Ferris wheel. I use it to haul firewood around the property all winter.  I don't have to charge the batteries that often, and it's amazing how much work you can get out of a well designed machine. Being an old design, it uses a series of staged SCR's to vary field current, and a few very large resistors in series with the stator winding that are shunted for higher speeds / torque. A more modern chopper style inverter would up the efficiency, and I'd have to charge the batteries even less often. No it's not overunity, but very useful.

[MileHigh]

Another baffling John Bedini quote:

John K ,
Lets start over, The motor I presented in the pictures.
I said that if you live in the northern hemisphere that the south pole of the coil must extend through the coil, and no do not turn the motor upside down.
John you live in the southern hemisphere so the pole piece must be extended towards the wheel for the geometry to work with the shield.

I don't know this device may be a little to advanced to work with here.

I have moved the pole piece out of the core so that the right angles meet at the shield, so what I'm doing is causing a delay in the magnetic field by closing it in. I said that four coils are wound on one coil form two #15 wires and two #18 wires. The # 18 wires are control wires the two 15 wires are power wires, look up the definition for Mag Amp. understand what a Mag Amp is and how it control's energy, self biased inside the coil.

The Magnetic Amplifier is a lost art but controlled things very well including power. The side coils are at 1/2 the impedance of the main coil but are nothing more then slaves. When I started this project I wanted to know if ED's theory worked, my answer is it does.

Now if I control the magnetic amplifier ("Main Coil Center") I can control the power to the main coil for recovery. ( you must have experience in magnetic amplifiers to do it my way but I do not know how many do have that)

Just build a simple SG with a Bedini /Cole switch and collect the charge then pulse it back to the secondary battery using a reed with a fet while the motor is off. You must also remember I'm an Analog guy not a Digital guy so I'm not doing anything with digital chips here.

Do not put the bridge on the out side of the switch make sure that the single diode bridge is connected right inside the switch and the wires go directly to the capacitor.
Hope this helps.
John

So John Bedini is claiming that the "Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor" has to be configured differently depending on what hemisphere of the Earth you are located on.  What complete and utter nonsense!!!

I am shaking my head...

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Bedini quote:

Ren,
I understand what your saying, but I never would post anything unless I did the experiments, but remember I'm drawing on 40 years with this stuff.
My intentions is, to make you think without me just handing this over, we learn buy doing and thinking about the problem.

I took a big chance building this machine to the tune of 30K to prove this could be done. Everything Rick and I do is for research and discussion , Some things I can say others I can not. Maybe by others seeing this machine, it will inspire them to really think. I just did not go to this conference to get a swollen head and I have always presented my work to the public. I was offered mucho money to sell this machine and shut up, I will not take it. as I think it is very important for others to do it.

Some may not agree with me in my theories but they work for me and that is what counts. John K should do this with ease, and for the negative switch it not that ss relay the solid state relay switches one time and will work but mine switches three time in one second. It's to bad some could not attend or they could have seen that. The switch was low rated as I did not want to explode the batteries so I limited to 14 joules per switch X 3 you can figure how many joules that is in 24 hrs to the secondary batteries.

The meters were smacked to the pin mark I was not kidding around. One person here posted a youtube and he is doing it, it looks like it to me. Since he has the kit motor he needs the time to charge the cap, but he could get more with a little more timing on the hall. I'm not a social engineer I do the work if it takes me all night to get it done, if I find something of value I may or may not post it. Calculations are fine with me until the real work must be done then I find out they do not work all the time, but if I sat all day and did them I would get nothing done. I take all the money I make and build things, just ask anybody that knows me.

I was not going to go to this but I changed my mind at the last minute to help Rick, I do emit I was a real ***** to work with ask Bit's. Bit's was not kidding around either his machine worked very well nobody runs loads all day long like that. I was watching that machine I know. I have worked with the best of them in this field some are real phonies and make tones of money at it. Not me I make it public and I put everything out in the open so you can see it. So now maybe you understand a little better about me.
Glad we can be friends.
John B

[MileHigh]

Jeff I hope that you are going to read this one.

Here is quote from someone on the Energetic Forum:

Dominant North
Hello all

Just had a thought...dangerous I know but....Here goes....

John Bedini stated at the CDA conference that the North magnetic pole is the dominant pole...I accept that.

Well it occurred to me that in the Northern Hemisphere I can see the reason for this being the case as the North pole of any magnet is closer to "The North pole" in the northern Hemisphere so the dominance is easy to see.

Does it not stand to reason then that in the Southern Hemisphere that the South Pole of any magnet would be the dominant pole?

If so....would it be fair to assume that those of us at the bottom of the globe would either have less efficient machines or could we have the same efficiency by building our machines with the south pole facing outward.....??

Hope I am not on the wrong planet here...

Just my 2 cents worth

Thank you

John Smith

Jeff, you see the highlighted text above?  Assuming that Bedini really said that, it's pure quackery.  If Bedini can say stuff like this, and that depending on what hemisphere you live in you have to build the Ferris Wheel motor differently, what does that say about him?  What about his claims that bar magnets have Bloch walls down their centers?  Indeed, I have issues with Bedini.

The challenge for you is to not call me a "basher" but to argue the technical points if you can.

MileHigh

[Chet K]

MH
Wings posted this ,

http://cm.physics.tamu.edu/seminars/K_Romanov_09_19_07.pdf

Whats with these walls [in the center]??
Thanks
Chet
PS
And of course things like this keep poppin up all the time?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm

Geesh...... just when we thought we knew it all??
Will it ever stop??
I hope not!!

[BEP]

Ramset,

These walls exist but are only important during a change of polarity in material containing them. i.e. iron.
These are the walls of the individual magnetic domain. There are no magnetic domains for a coil.
See the examples in that PDF.

When domains flip energy is stored/returned and lost not gained.

These theories can not be applied to a bar magnet and have no use in the core of an AC coil unless you wish to drill down to why an AC coil becomes hot or vibrates.

There is no application for these theories in a DC coil because all the domains are aligned the same way from end to end except when power is applied or removed.

Flipping these domains is part of a cored coil storing the applied energy. This is why a coil with a ferrous core can store more energy than an air core coil. This is a perfect example of when to use MH's spring analogy.

The greatest problem with all these documents is people don't understand them and go on to assume they do.

Your second link is a fine example of how correct Maxwell was before Heavyside destroyed the original work. Maxwell couldn't prove that current had momentum but his work alludes to it. The last physics book I encountered that showed perpetual ring current was published in the 50's. Newcomers think it is something new and impossible.

Maybe something will come from that?

[Loner]

I have to make two small comments:

1)  Doesn't anyone remember "Core" memory?  That should have ended that issue.  Proven data for a long time.  (They never forget...)  Seems strange that someone had to "Publish" a proof on proven data.  It made me smile.  Good reminder, I guess.

2) Bedini mentioned "Mag Amps", while describing a multi-wind coil!  This has to be the most obvious lack of knowledge I have seen.  I am surprised no-one called that one out.  Mag-amps operate on the concept of saturation of the core material, disabling the transfer of energy from primary to secondary.  This is physically impossible without separated coils on a permeable core.  (Was he attempting Dis-information?)  A single coil, with any number of separate winds, cannot act as a mag-amp.  That actually made me laugh when I read it.


I just had to blurt these things out, as smiles like that don't come often for me.....

[poynt99]

 

Good observations Art.

.99

[ion]

Re: the magamps......agreed

I often have to chuckle in the background or my fingers would be numb from typing responses.