Battelfield

[Vidura]

I totally agree, that it would be of benefit to try teamwork. Theoretical physics and experimental research must go hand in hand. They complement each other. Experiments without theory are blind, Theory without experiments is sterile.  Despite that the topic is called battlefield, and I didn't moderate until the moment, the discussions should be at some level of respect, If you disagree with someone, it is possible to express it with modalities.
Thanks a lot Vidura.

[AlienGrey]

I totally agree, that it would be of benefit to try teamwork. Theoretical physics and experimental research must go hand in hand. They complement each other. Experiments without theory are blind, Theory without experiments is sterile.  Despite that the topic is called battlefield, and I didn't moderate until the moment, the discussions should be at some level of respect, If you disagree with someone, it is possible to express it with modalities.
Thanks a lot Vidura.

Vdura in ideal thread it might work but there are two guy's that will always jump in and spoil the drinking water and whatever is said they wont experiment in the real world demand a hand in hand guided talk through with slide by slide tuition tutorial and then they will say it's all  lies and wont work we have tried it all to get it all slung back at us with foul language to boot.

Sil

[F6FLT]

...Theoretical physics and experimental research must go hand in hand. They complement each other. Experiments without theory are blind, Theory without experiments is sterile.
...

  I agree.

But sometimes the technology is missing and the experimental verifications can only be done well after the theory, sometimes a century later!

[Vidura]

by AlienGrey.
Vdura in ideal thread it might work but there are two guy's that will always jump in and spoil the drinking water and whatever is said they wont experiment in the real world demand a hand in hand guided talk through with slide by slide tuition tutorial and then they will say it's all  lies and wont work we have tried it all to get it all slung back at us with foul language to boot.
Sil

This sounds a bit frustrated Sil, but it is quite usual that there are opinions which differs to such a degree, that not likely consents will be accomplished. It is supposed that the moderation possibilities of benches are intended to solve eventual disturbances, if there is no other way. So don't worry about that, as i will keep the main topics focused on their scope and readable, eventually some posts will be removed if required. Also I will  continue focusing on what I have decided, I do not allow myself to get distracted. This does not mean that i will not listen to anybody, suggestions and also (constructive) critics are welcome.
I think most people would like to live in a peaceful world, where everybody is respected and treated with compassion?
Be that change that you would like to see in the world!
Regards Vidura.

[Vidura]

Post by AG.

I had fun with plasmas in the air a few years ago. I had made a simple LC circuit with an end plate. Near the plate, I injected current into the air from a tip connected to a very high voltage DC source.

The system oscillated, the oscillation could be produced up to a frequency of about 2MHz, with a voltage > 10 KV, which could then be lowered to about 8 KV once the oscillation was triggered. It is clear that there was a negative resistance in the plasma, this is known, but as in all cases when this happens, it is a dynamic resistance (so no hope of OU, you have to polarize it, therefore to provide energy).

Here the high voltage is AC. AC can also ionize the air on the hot side of the resonant circuit if the voltage is sufficient. There is no longer a fixed current to maintain the bias around which the dynamic resistance is negative. The resistance of the circuit will depend on the applied voltage, but we will probably have the negative resistance still appearing fleetingly when the AC voltage is around that point. If the AC is at low frequency, a few tens to hundreds of KHz, oscillations at higher frequencies or distortions of the signal may therefore occur for short times around the point of negative resistance at each period of the AC

It becomes very difficult to characterize the input and output powers without tools in the RF domain capable to measure arbitrary signals. An oscilloscope with math functions would be the solution, but because of the strong ambient field, it is necessary to know how to connect it without magnetic or capacitive inductions polluting the signal of the probe, using for example double screened coaxial cables instead of probes, shielded connections... which is not within the reach of the first person, without RF experience. Don Smith had neither the technical means nor the skills to do this.
For those who would like to test the system, and thus be able to make correct measurements, I can only agree with Vidura: "Better would be a DC input measurement with appropriate filters", and output too!

If the voltage is not sufficient to obtain an ionization, then we do not really see why the elementary setups seen above would produce anything abnormal that the engineers who have been using them for decades, would not have seen.

Again How amusing but whats any of this got to do with Zero point energy ?nothing!

First your on about a Tesla coil, and you don't need high voltage Tesla used a modified coil and gain can be sucked from the ground with just a low voltage and AC. And it's not my job to explain how to do that! find out your self.

PS if you want free energy get some solar panels Amazon sell them. 
Sil

[Vidura]

Post by F6FLT

"Zero point energy"
The subject is "Concepts and principles of OU devices".

When we see Aliengrey talking about his own experiments and analyses rather than denigrating those of other contributors that he misinterprets and that go over his head, maybe he will finally understand what this forum is for.

[Vidura]

Post by AG.

"Zero point energy"
The subject is "Concepts and principles of OU devices".

When we see Aliengrey talking about his own experiments and analyses rather than denigrating those of other contributors that he misinterprets and that go over his head, maybe he will finally understand what this forum is for.

Oh its for you to tell all every energy company where exactly you live and your real name so you can have millions of people come knocking on your door and holding your family to ransom!

Thats why i thing your a prat and dangerous.

[Vidura]

His words are incoherent, can someone explain?
I wonder what the aliens did to him.

  I think that they gave him such an original name. AG...
  Maybe he can show us how to pull gain from the ground. I'd like to see that.
 
   NickZ

[AlienGrey]

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[NickZ]

Nick it doesn't work with any resonates coil and you need to know how it works there has been loads in various threads and youtube about it but it's always ignored and F6 and others haven't helped. Have a look at Vasik 041 he showed how to light a light bulb with a resonater but you need to pass an earth line through it or you don't get the gain, the other thing is maths you need a good amount of wire on the coil  18.25 to 37.5 mtrs and you need to space the wire out so 18.5 would occupy 18.5 cm on the 50 cm  section on the tube of 37.5 cm depending on wire length but make sure its to the base 9 in tune with nature and wind it in the same direction wast goes down your bath pug hole.

Also   you have to drive it with a sqr wave 50/50.
Then it might work for you too.

speed of light 3x10 to 8 / by 37.5 = 8mhz you can also transpose freq and wire length to find
the other one ! with a 50cm tube i got 16 cm round the tube and 114 loops = 18.24cm
of winding on the tube (I used fishing line to space each loop).

i'm sure you can use this formula if your values are different.

Sil

   AG: Oh, you mean that you can't show us how to pull gain from a ground line? What good is that, then?
   I don't guess, I follow the instructions. Remember, instructions...there are instruction, and test results, not just guesses.
   BTW: Vasik has not shown any "gain", as yet. Even with all the great information that he has translated, and transcribed.

   NickZ

[AlienGrey]

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[NickZ]

   You can remove it anytime.
   You told me "haw" to do it?  Right, you wish...
   I won't hold my breath, waiting for you to show us how you get juice from the ground line. 

   I think that Vidura has a point to make, so, maybe he can tell us what it is.
Perhaps, he can even show us what that is...for a change. As a pile of assumption , don't make for a self runner.
   Good thing that he won't need to remove my posts, as irrelevant, from here.

   NickZ

   

[Grumpy]

Here we go deleting posts again...

Rolling
On
The
Floor
Laughing
My
Ass
Off

ROFLMAO!

[AlienGrey]

Here we go deleting posts again...

Rolling On The  Floor Laughing My Ass Off ROFLMAO!

How many times do you want to post it ? post it under your name and your clutering the thread up like troll does

[Grumpy]

How many times do you want to post it ? post it under your name and your clutering the thread up like troll does

It's funny that people post something, as if it were the secret of the universe, then delete it like a child taking back a piece of candy.

That image is in the Dally thread on the other forum.

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg571228/#msg571228

[F6FLT]

It's funny that people post something, as if it were the secret of the universe, then delete it like a child taking back a piece of candy.
...

When the secret is destroyed, it becomes even more precious because if it has been destroyed, it is because the power of governments and oil companies wanted to make it disappear.
Another suppression of a brilliant invention! This is the proof that it worked, right?

[NickZ]

   Well, that just must have worked. Or it would not have been suppressed. As logic goes ...
Or, was it AG that wanted it to disappear?
   Anyways, F6 good luck with that allergy.

    NickZ

[AlienGrey]

Nice one you saved it! at least you still have it.

If your interested here  is a TC notice its physical length is the the same as it's wave length.
strange that should happen.

Ps didn't snow white sleep in grumpy's bed and wake up in happy's ?

sil

[NickZ]

     AG:
  So, did you build it up and test it to prove the "theory". No?
   Just like to repeat things...
      NickZ

[AlienGrey]

     AG:
  So, did you build it up and test it to prove the "theory". No?
   Just like to repeat things...
      NickZ

As a matter of fact i did test it. this photo is only 17.5 so the 18.5 wave over laps
it needs re winding with the correct gauge wire to correct this problem so it's detuned.
If i just added more winds it would still be detuned. It would have been better to have
wound it with a more matched freq and magnet wire ! but the grenade is already wound
perhaps i might re wind it to match who knows 

wave to Feq  is  3x10 to the 8 /  by wave length. happy maths.
or wave length 300000000 divided by 37.5 = 8000000 (8 mhz)
Sil

[NickZ]

   Ok, so now Vidura wants to see if he can ionize (burn) metal using high voltage.
   Has that got something to do with free energy, self running, or OU???
   No?
  Is that relevant??? I doubt it.
  We already know that spark gaps will eventually burn the metal, and need to be readjusted.
  I hope that you don't remove more of my posts,  as being not relevant.

   
   NickZ

[AlienGrey]

   Ok, so now Vidura wants to see if he can ionize (burn) metal using high voltage.
   Has that got something to do with free energy, self running, or OU???
   No?
  Is that relevant??? I doubt it.
  We already know that spark gaps will eventually burn the metal, and need to be readjusted.
  I hope that you don't remove more of my posts,  as being not relevant.

   
   NickZ

thats something else. any way if you try that with your configuration you will blow your
mosfet up.

[NickZ]

As a matter of fact i did test it. this photo is only 17.5 so the 18.5 wave over laps
it needs re winding with the correct gauge wire to correct this problem so it's detuned.
If i just added more winds it would still be detuned. It would have been better to have
wound it with a more matched freq and magnet wire ! but the grenade is already wound
perhaps i might re wind it to match who knows 

Sil

   AG:
  Are you saying that you can't afford 18 meters of mag wire?
  Once you do so, you'll see what I been saying all along. You'll show no interaction with the grenade.
Just like viduras tests so far, with the wrong size grenade coils due to lack of wire. And not using the right wima tuning caps for frequency tuning etc...
   It takes fine tuning to hit a homerun. And that can take much more than just turning some knobs or trim pots, on the Kacher or push pull circuits.
   Remember, Akula is an electronics engineer. Oleg who was building Ruslan's circuits is an engineer, as well.
And who ever was building Kapanadze's lasts self runner with KW output is an electronics engineer. And probably knows more than most conventional electronics engineers do. Stalker can explain in detail how he built his self runner. Showing diagrams, scope shots, IMO, and images, as well. Vasik has presented us with full translations concerning build instructions and specs etc ...
I thank all of them for sharing all this with us. As that is it, and that's all, from them now.
It may take a few more years for any of us simple experimenters to show some gain, at all.
 
   NickZ
 

[AlienGrey]

Nick its not that that's the problem it's the 37.5 M it ant in tune!
it's all a Russian piss take. Ruslan didn't use 37.5 (everything is to do with
music and being in tune with universe, Tesla).

If you want to use 37.5 mtrs on a 50mm pipe work out the spacing so 37.5m
of wire will wind on a Dia of 160mm and a length of 3750 mm and fill it with your wire
and a space of (? depends on wire dia available ) exactly and equal spacing so
it's in resonance. 

Would you listen to music that's out of tune or buy out of tune wind chimes ?

Sil

[NickZ]

   AG:.  Keep guessing...
   I use the recommended 37.5 meter grenade output coil, wound on a sink drain pipe tube, just like Ruslan showed and explain.
   You can build your grenade,  however you like.

   NickZ