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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #100 on: 2025-04-01, 20:46:33 »
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Use for those pesky one use throw away plastic flash cameras.

You can make a pop gun from firing capacitor into salt water in a large plastic syringe. The plunger will shoot out + hit the wall. Electrolysis of water for Hydrogen gas and fire same time. Insert 2 screws close together at the compression end of syringe with water. Keep the whole board. Use battery to run the charger circuit for the capacitor. (Use instead of lighting up a flash lamp.) Man from Philippines did this awhile back.. Another man discharged 500uf capacitor charged from several hundred volts supply, into mower engine spark plug. Salt water was put on end electrodes. When fired as electrolysis, it forms hydrogen gas and fires plug same time. His engine crankshaft turned over one revolution. Bench test was repeated. There are regular electrolytic caps and also whats called photo flash type which are called low ESR. These type discharge faster, less internal heating, and release more energy in one blast.
The Horvath US Patent showed how to run electrolysis cell on capacitor discharges which ended up as 30v + 200 pulse amps to electrodes in electrolyte, at 10khz.. Full schematic and parts list. Car ran on water.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #101 on: 2025-04-04, 00:48:04 »
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Reference  Aug 27, 2008  Waterfuel1978 Forum

Briggs Magnetron with triple coils assembly, inductor,- used with standard Ignition coil bench tester. Daveand5 noted the leakage inductance crossover voltage 150v to the low volts side. When wires hooked up, the Briggs 15kv coil gave out an unusual 40kv. Range switch on 50kv. He noted also the plastic tub holder had helped raise up voltage. He suggested increasing the 2nd and third coil size for further change.

After reading this paper over considerable amount of time, I recently got the idea of COORELATIONS. I did this years ago with other subjects, and it works. If you do some bench tests and note 4 outcomes, but only mention 2 or 3 to others over long period, the people still have questions. The originator may deem it not significant to talk about.

Based on these other COORELATIONS I find that the Georgia people neglected to tell of ignition major voltage change, when firing spark plugs with the new S1R coils assembly.

With the S1r coils having reversed source flows of power, there is inherent designed in interference placed on the spark cable-bare wire. This we already know forms longer on time of spark ATDC and mild magnetism at tips of plug. The Georgia techs failed to mention about increased volts firing the spark plugs. They called it boosting the ignition cable by adding more current. Volts + current are 2 different things and by different methods. Inverter output current and magnetic field impressed.

(1.) The plastic deli tub holding the S1R electrical wiring acted as a capacitance for aiding the increased voltage of output. We know the general DC power supplies use a filter capacitor after the diodes, that raises up the end volts.

(2.) The 2008 bench test indicated an abnormal change of ignition volts going as to 40KV.

(3.) Nathren said the earlier 60 turns coil over plug wire test on fender of car engine formed magnetic field that fired spark plug in air with white/blue ball flame blast. Under compression it is stronger.

(4.) Nathren said that the Briggs 18HP engine tests with S1r coils gave higher output voltage than the car engine ignition coils.

Therefore, because of correlations, it is my contention that it is normal for our S1R windings coils to increase the Magnetron high voltage to a much higher range for firing saltwater solution for successful running a water engine.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #102 on: 2025-04-04, 16:59:08 »
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Most people don't take the time to read all messages on subject. They don't like long paragraphs. There were 2 demonstrations back in 2008 regarding mower engine running at idle speed on salt water. The battery supplied amps for start only. The idle RPM dual alternators supplied up to15 amps for conversion circuit. Alternators + ignition self running by 12 +1 magnets and crankshaft rotation. . The Ignition coil on a Briggs engine is called a Magnetron (with SS trigger). The S1R coils assembly does 3 things. Am ample increase in high voltage, extension of timing from TDC to -34 degrees ATDC, and applying mild magnetism to spark plug electrodes. The added Inverter box supplies additional power 120v AC to DC , about 10Amps Peak pulse Amps to spark plug. This circuit was used by the tech people on all the earlier car engines tested . Those used also a special relay per cylinder. The S1R coils replaces the unabtainable obsolete 60 cycles  traffic signals control relays. Approx 4A to electromagnet coils over plug wire, and 11 amps to primary side of Inverter,  for 15 A Max 12-14v DC from alternators full wave DC. The mower circuit also used an inductor of 1.75millihenry , and extra required spark gap. The plastic housing had room for 1 relay . There was talk about the relay  diode joint with high volts entrance point forming Radiant Energy that may have increased conversion efficiency. The Vacuum sealed relay stops loss of RF in ambiant air. The salt water and 120v DC at plug forms hydrogen gas and fires same time. (spark plug electrolysis) There was also water vapor pressure contributing to the piston compression. There are several US Patents on same thing, going way back in time. Low engine power output but usable, as for instance operating an electrical 120v AC power generator. The tech people said a higher HP engine required by ratio to add a generator requiring certain HP.  Ohm's laws still in effect.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #103 on: 2025-04-05, 23:27:10 »
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This message is in regards to the Georgia conversions on the earlier 4,6, 8-cylinder engines used with mineral water. The shop had worked on hundreds of adjustments for years , trying to get it right. They talked about surging, rough  engines, and some actual improvement came when it was Nathren (father) who was the only one who noticed about EGR being used on the better running engines.
I had made up a list of possibilities of minor changes that I had never submitted to them, possibly they never thought of.

Today I wanted to tell you about one of those on the list. The Georgia techs used the same Inverter box on each car with the matching relays per cylinder, to make use of the inductors and diodes. Now,....... There are several types of Inverters 110v AC output. (I prefer the 220v units as diodes bank loses about 10 volts)

There is the low frequency 60 cycles as modified corrected sine wave (square waves).
The 500W 20khz high frequency open board China Inverters with multiple outputs.
The 500-600W 60 cycles pure sine wave circuit Inverter unit.

Why this is important is because Inverters also give a specification for Peak, temporary current under 40% duty cycle. Such as 400W to 800W with an associated peak amps pulse current. The cheaper quality Inverters are mostly modified sine wave. What that means is, not quality repeatable same peak current in fast pulses. It is now assumed that the Georgia techs needed to change their input power to Pure Sine Wave , more costly Inverters. It has to do with type of electrical load as resistive, inductive, etc. They had never , over the years finally corrected the engine running problem. Also, source to purchase exact special relays never found. They had been using the Green Inverter box Power On Board 400watts, modified sine wave, 12vDC to 110v AC.
I have an array of different Inverter boxes collected over time.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #104 on: 2025-04-08, 18:33:29 »
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The shop in Georgia had converted several cars , as 4,6,8 cylinder  engines on mineral water. They all had standard alternators. The one most talked about was the 1978 Chevy ElCamino V8 running on mineral water. There was a separate 2nd battery used to run the Inverter box . The alternator charged both batteries with diode isolation box. For off idle power, the main jet in carb is re drilled about 33% larger.  The car reported to get 18MPG water, but after later reusing some of the waste exhaust drippings, the mileage went way higher , due to the addition of Nitrogen embedded in the expelled water. Smother running engine also. The other v8 on engine stand was running electrical power generator 24 hours always on. The regular alternator recharged battery, and the GENERATOR provided free electricity for work shop.  Data taken from the now shut down web forum. Spark plug electrolysis for hydrogen gas + water vapor pressure.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #105 on: 2025-04-23, 15:14:37 »
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The DC generator is mounted under flywheel of all Briggs riding lawn mowers engines. The 2 AC wires extend to rectification to recharge battery or provide power to extra circuit. The flywheel contains 13 permanent magnets. 12 for the generator and 1 for the ignition. No input is used to run generator or ignition other than turning crankshaft. When hydrogen gas fuel is made at spark plug , the engine starts running. The battery was used for the starter motor only, then completely shut off. Power to make electrolysis is then coming from generator at idle speed. Salt water is allowed to flow into top of carb from hose + bottle. Diodes needed to get DC to make low efficiency electrolysis of water. Fuel gas forms at tips of spark plug and fires same time. The added wire coil changes the timing ,as is needed with hydrogen. The spark plug receives what is called pulse PEAK DC current as about 10A. Spark plug was changed to Champion QC12YC at 125 ohms , rather than original 4000ohms resistance. They also come apart to remove resistor to get a Zero ohms racing plug. ( copper #12 wire segment replacement)

You can verify an old used engine would just run by adding 70% alcohol, or acetylene gas from carbide stones + water added, and also Ether spray into carb. The sound of Nathren's water engine on hydrogen sounds like a water pump. Youtube (2 )videos by S1R9A9M9
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #106 on: 2025-06-03, 17:41:42 »
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The mower ignition coil has a lower high voltage output than car engines. I was collecting data on various means to increase this. The unusual modification of upside down old style armature magneto, (not magnetron), allows for positive high volts , but at a lowered level, since they are all type called autotransformer, with 3 terminals. I noticed on the modern Harley motorcycles the ignition coil was different. I purchased one $50, and examined it. The transformer secondary side is not connected to anything. Later, I found out the Briggs dual spark plug engines have either single or dual ignition Magnetrons. I purchased samples of the one with dual cables. One side cylinder fires negative high volts, and the other fires positive high volts. This is the best method to obtain positive only high volts ignition., at highest volts.without loss. One side hooks to ground.
Back in 2008, there was a circuit on Internet called the capacitor70 circuit for several purposes. I had the idea this was incorporated in the set up of 2008 You tube videos called S1R9A9M9 to enhance the process of running mower engine on water to hydrogen and electrified water vapor pressure as polarized molecules repulsion, pushing piston. The Cap70 circuit is similar to a C.D.I with PF capacitors firing separate primary of step up FERRITE TOROID transformer to increase high volts of car/ mower engine. Ferrite can saturate and has to be designed properly. Ignition is very low current flow and low duty cycle, and core should work. This also isolates the grounds of ignition and added power supply. The circuit however allows high volts to go through the low volts full wave rectifier to get to the spark plug. Not a good idea. I suspected circuit was used in the S1R9A9M9 successful video demonstrations. 2 people indicated it worked. I am presently hooking up to try this on parts and UU ferrite core set mounted on wooden board. U cores are easier to wind, and have the same proper full contained flux path., not like open rod core.  500-1000PF , several caps in series with total voltage tolerance and ferrite core 1:3 step up windings. Resonance of L + C high frequency runs secondary side wound with #16 gauge ignition cable. Experimenters have to keep the grounds separate of the Inverter  + ignition, and battery ground. I did a lot of study research before buying parts. Minimum 24KV and pulse peak 7 amps required ,- not average amps.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #107 on: 2025-07-18, 20:52:02 »
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On another note,.....The Briggs brand lawn mower ignition coils have one for a 2 cyl. engine. Those engines DO use either 1 or 2 ignition coils for twin cylinders. I found out , that the dual cables type, single Magnetron coil, is NOT An "autotransformer." The autotransformer has 3 terminals only. The special dual cables type Magnetron has no connection to the PRIMARY side. THEREFORE, 4 TERMINALS SEPARATE. You can put one secondary cable to ground and then get FULL POSITIVE HIGH VOLTS OUT! This is a pulse output circuit, not an AC circuit. Conversion fuel circuits wotk better using positive high volts through spark plug to negative ground. You can get a similar modern Chinese model on Ebay, for less money.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #108 on: 2025-07-18, 22:26:16 »
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Study S1R9A9M9 conversions from 2005-2019. Internet data and shut down web site Waterfuel1978 Google Groups. Zero ohms Spark plug firing water solution with > 100volts DC at peak 7-10 amps pulse , at about 1-2 amps average DC on scope. DC to AC Inverter secondary side 120v - 220v AC to DC. See the 2 You tube videos . Tiny plug electrodes require higher volts!. His 1978 El Camino got 18mpg on just water in carb. Must have EGR to get the Nitrogen embedded in the exhausted water reused. Georgia work shop had V8 on engine stand with power generator making free electricity for shop. Inventor helper Nathren, revealing the data on web forum was arrested and jailed for pornography to stop the technical data. . Hydrogen + Oxygen gas evolved and fired along with pressure expansion of water vapor of repulsing polarized water molecules. (Brown's Gas) The vacuum in intake manifold causes VOLATILE action on water so as subservient to further actions ionization. His Briggs 18HP mower engine with water bottle and hose to carb, shown working using parts in plastic tub on side of engine , such as inductor coil and electromagnet to change to late timing ATDC.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #109 on: 2025-07-19, 17:07:46 »
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 Hydrogen + Oxygen gas evolved and fired along with pressure expansion of water vapor of repulsing polarized water molecules. (Brown's Gas) The vacuum in intake manifold causes VOLATILE action on water VAPOR so as subservient to further actions ionization.  Currently I am duplicating the original circuit with small mounted Briggs lawnmower engine, similar to his on You Tube video. Radiant Energy may be involved from the original sealed vacuum chamber relay coils and diode interaction with high voltage pulse.  (on/off/on diode)     R.E. not escape to ambient air , so as follows circuit to spark plug tips in chamber.  The Georgia technicians called them the "magic relays" The new ones they used in all the engine conversions, one set dual coils relay PER CYLINDER,  were replacements for the Georgia electric pole boxes for the traffic control lights 60 cycle , - green + red 6v bulbs, now obsolete as changed over to solid state. Years ago, I had found 2 messages that told of positive engine conversion using the S1R9A9M9 technique with spark plug and S1R triple coils electromagnet. Of course you know that 500uf capacitor charged to several hundred volts DC will discharge to plug with salt water solution and revolve 4 cycle small engine. But that's not the S1R method. The unit like that called Aquapulse was sold years ago.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #110 on: 2025-07-26, 22:34:26 »
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 Mower engine Ran On Hydrogen From Water 2008

Another update conversion parts. Made replacement for the original Georgia special Relays they used back then , as vacuumed box chamber with 2 inductors, diodes and Tesla magnetic spark gap. Radiant energy to emit from 2 points. Inverter to DC power supply also completed + protection diodes bank + P.W.M. controller. Just finished the water tank processor with tiny bubbles air pump and magnetic polarization of plastic water line with neodymium magnets. Easier to extract hydrogen with electrolysis with H +H +O as polarized with the 106 degree angle shifted to 108 degrees.These are improvements to the conversion done back in 2005-2008.Engine casting insulated from bat neg , so as no interference with expensive Inverter box pure sine wave. Ignition changed to positive High volts only. The Briggs engine has no adjustment for timing , so as the S1R9A9M9 electromagnet provides field over plug wire as going up to late 34 degrees ATDC. The shut down web site had no replacement for the relays , so no completed circuit was released to the public. Took me 3 months to get the sealed box configured. Ohms law formula always used. The 6 stage project nearing completion. Manifold vacuum action causes volatility of water vapor and with the polarization, forms vapor pressure that aids the hydrogen combustion pressure. (Browns gas) The required embedded 78% Nitrogen added to water aids the Hydrogen burning process. It's also in the exhaust gases, - "EGR" The S1R9A9M9 method of spark plug electrolysis had several cars converted , lower power output , of course, but only Briggs engine was put on video. The shop tech's kept their own records, only Nathren put data on the web forum that I copied. In the 2 You tube 2008 videos, the engine was started with battery, battery removed, then the dual alternators under flywheel ran the circuit. Check out what a water engine sounds like. Questions?
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #111 on: 2025-08-04, 02:53:11 »
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 Mower Converted Water/Hydrogen

Those engines converted in Georgia 2005-2008, as I said before, had used electrolysis at spark plug at over 100volts dc for the hydrogen generated, but had also used BROWN'S Gas. Some people don't know about that. With a pulsed type DC power supply there is an electrical charge put on water vapor that also produces pressure due to expansion of like polarity gas. Both together form the piston pressure that runs the engine. The circuit also used Radiant Energy from the vacuum chamber Bakelite dual coils + diode that enhanced the reaction. The dual alternators on the mower engine ran electrical circuit on the built in 12 magnets providing AC when shaft is turned. The converted car engines used 2 batteries with alternator charging both during driving. Later, It was found that EGR Nitrogen added to engine increased efficiency further. Tech data taken, copied, from original web forum , now shut down.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #112 on: 2025-08-12, 00:42:22 »
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How To Increase High Volts Of Lawn Mower Ignition Coil?

I ran across recently a statement made by Nathren long time back,  in Georgia, from the shut down tech web forum. It was a reference to the use of very mini Tesla Coil in conjunction with the Briggs engine Magnetron ignition.  This would provide Radiant Energy, and increased voltage to spark plug. The old forum said that the technicians noted a higher voltage on the lawn mower running engine than the conversions done on car engines. for water to Hydrogen spark plug electrolysis with resulting self running from the 12 alternator magnets. 2005-2008.
No core miniature air core wire wound forms were called Color TV Delay Lines ,- magnet wire on cardboard tube or the smaller radio coil RF inductors. The R.E. would be and aid to the conversion.
   
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Re: Georgia Shop Technicians Ran Briggs Mower Engine ONLY Water In Carburetor 2008 « Reply #113 on: 2025-08-24, 00:17:14 »
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S1R9A9M9 18HP Briggs riding mower engine ran on water 2008

I rebuilt another S1R electromagnet, as to be able to reduce input current from 4 A to 1.5A. Has to do with doubling number turns so as the magnetic field is same with 1/2 current. 39 turns now for 1.5 amp draw. Direct proportion of turns to field. Remember that we are using the power that would be associated from Briggs alternator as 4A + 11 A for max 15A capability at idle speed.

My other (same) S1R coil was put inside my NEW much larger vacuum chamber with many pin terminals , so as can have various connections for various purposes. The Briggs is factory set timing, so as the VARIED power resistor with coil allows for varying magnetic field for tests. The 60 cycle inverter box as pure sine wave will be used with push button single pulse , and then later with regular on time running of power supply. The 7A Peak pulse will be read on the ground return side to Inverter DC with VOLTS SCOPE fast reading over 1 ohm metal resistor. 7 volts read is 7 pulse amps. E / R = I . Currently finishing up the 6" Carlon larger box and smaller 4" box. Both include the Tesla magnetic spark gap. I am assuming release of (2) radiant energies inside Vacuum box not escaping into Ambient air and following the wiring and inductors to spark plug. High V enters exact at cathode of diode in-between inductors. I really like the heatsink/fan assembly being sold as obsolete from old style computers. The dell unit is way cheaper than purchasing separate sink + 12v fan. Hole drilled in center for mounting MOSFET pass transistor. Complete cheap modules available for preset frequency + duty cycle control. Inverter is 220 v with separate adjustable module for reducing AC to about 130v AC. Then full wave rectifier. Has 2 protections for power input inverter using 15kv diodes bank with vertical blowing fan, and no battery ground hooked to engine metal. (Starter only) I have choice of + or minus high volts at full level. I also installed new water delivery system as upper tank with CERAMIC type TINY TYPE bubbler with DC air pump to get Nitrogen embedded water, and neodymium magnets along length of water hose to carb. (polarized water separates easier) Alum square tube holds strong magnets in place with interior tubing.
 
The original 60 turns coil test in Georgia was the prerequisite for the S1R coils. No photo, The circuit showed that ignition cable could be INFLUENCED by external magnetic field. The S1R coils served several purposes. Nathren just wanted a cheap method of doing it. He said the magnetic field quit only when plug fired. 2 ways - ignition pulse intercepts diode in Magic Relay shutting off low volts, and ignition volts causes interference in S1r coils other low volts side.

 Vacuum boxes contain S1r coils, magnetic gap, 2 inductors and diodes. A second spark gap in series is required to keep spark plug working with water solution.

Push button for initial test of moving piston. Self-running engine requires revolving, so as there is a FAST much-lowered compression at bottom of stroke , affecting water to water vapor , then as susceptible to further influence. There is to be also polarized water vapor repelling, and increasing piston pressure.

 Set up now has a different smaller Briggs 8.5 HP engine that has a starter and plastic ring changeable alternator. Just purchased cheap flywheel that has the LARGE magnets for the alternator for more current output. The use of Aluminum ring gear on steel flywheel allows for use of plastic small gear on starter. COMPLETE ELECTRICAL ISOLATION for the expensive China Inverter box.
   
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